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Title: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on December 04, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
The GLOBE forum on here hasn't had a post since 2014, so I figured there wouldn't be any attention if I posted there.


I am at a university (Toledo), and am trying to build onto our GLOBE network.  I can add a study site to GLOBE  (your lat/long) and give you the  ORG_ID and SITE_ID credentials to automate it on your end, if you're willing to participate. Basically, you just need to add another share -- the only caveat is you need to have 15-minute intervals on weather-link, so no premium users.


I would truly appreciate any additions. Although I would prefer places "kind of close" to NW OHIO/SE MICHIGAN -- the location really doesn't matter.  We are actively trying to build the GLOBE database for future research purposes. (all is available to public)  It doesn't seem like many people use the globe feature and it's so simple to set up.


I don't expect a flood of people, but even a few would be amazing. A flood would be  \:D/ \:D/ \:D/


Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: galfert on December 04, 2018, 05:31:07 PM
How do you upload to The GLOBE? Is it APRS protocol compatible?
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: johnd on December 05, 2018, 03:49:47 AM
ICBW but I thought that GLOBE was specifically targeted at educational institutions only???
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on December 05, 2018, 04:51:52 PM
ICBW but I thought that GLOBE was specifically targeted at educational institutions only???


Sorry if I'm slow on this, we're approaching the end of the semester this week, so everyone is extremely busy.


Yes, but we're allowed to use "citizen scientists," so I'm working with GLOBE to make certain I can add sites under our organizational account for weather stations. I know we can "train" the public on most protocols, so I don't see a reason why a true weather enthusiast with accurate equipment shouldn't be allowed to submit their data as well.  I am working through the red-tape right now.


Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on December 05, 2018, 05:14:47 PM
How do you upload to The GLOBE? Is it APRS protocol compatible?


I'm trying to figure out a solution for that right now. I have not looked at how Davis sends the data through davis weatherlink software, and weatherbug stuff works... I would think meteobridge should be easy to put the capability into (15-min intervals)  but i get an email every day from globe that looks like below. I don't have much time on my hands until the end of this month, but I would think it would be fairly easy to adapt through some kind of proxy device other than a davis. (though it's why I posted in the Davis forum)

I only included the first two measurements because I didn't want to edit out site/org ID 92 times.




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Thank you for entering your GLOBE data!  Please review the data you entered below.  Any records followed by an error message were NOT accepted by the system and need to be corrected and resubmitted before the data can be entered in the GLOBE database (for a faster response, only resubmit corrected lines).  Lines that are not followed by an error message were accepted and stored in our database (and do not need to be resubmitted). If you have further questions, please contact your Country Coordinator, or the GLOBE Help Desk at help@globe.gov
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Date Received: Wed Dec 05 17:49:31 GMT 2018

92 measurements processed successfully.

DAVAD ORG_ID:394XXX Site_id:1416XX 201812041300 -0.8 73 0.9 NNW 3.1 WNW 0.80 0.00 0.0 1021.2
DAVAD ORG_ID:394XXX Site_id:1416XX 201812041315 -0.6 71 0.9 NW 3.1 WNW 0.80 0.00 0.0 1020.9

Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: galfert on December 05, 2018, 09:09:57 PM
Welll that format is definitely not APRS. The Meteobridge will need to be modified to support the GLOBE protocol and that would need to be done by Boris. The alternative is for the GLOBE to adopt and support the APRS protocol and then the Meteobridge would work.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on December 06, 2018, 03:17:36 PM
I have been uploading to Globe for years.    Weatherlink will do the atmospheric, but I also have soil and they won't do that.

You have to apply to globe.gov.  You have to identify your site, protocols. etc.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on December 06, 2018, 07:00:51 PM
Anyone running weatherlink I can have on GLOBE very quickly, just waiting for the go-ahead. Everyone's busy right now, last week of a semester.


So anyways, when I look at the submissions from my GLOBE station, it looks like weatherlink is just automating/using the GLOBE email protocol


Measured At: 2018-12-06 11:00:00
Solar Measured At: 2018-12-06 05:35:00
Daily Average Temperature: 1.3 °C
Comments: (Phase 4 Email Data Entry)



I know globe protocols require 15-minute measurement intervals for personal weather stations

It seems like it would be easy to add to meteobridge as a single 92 data-point email per day. 


Anyone can participate in GLOBE, I'm still waiting to hear if I can add a group of citizen-scientists to our organizational account. If so, it would streamline the process a lot for everyone involved and give us a TON of aggregate data to use to track climate patterns, and it's easier for me to just add a site with your lat/long/elevation and send you a couple numbers to throw into weatherlink than it is to go through the process of dealing with GLOBE. 


weatherbug stations were made to work with globe as well, but with everyone is so busy for the next week that I doubt i'll be able to get to making more progress on those.

 I also have to Campbell CR-3000's that I need to get back online and then I"m going to need a way to transmit their data to GLOBE automatically.  I'm going to try using an old sena LS100 RS232>ethernet device I found laying around and then
 bridge ethernet through cellular or wifi depending on how things work out.

Then onto the FLUX tower that hasn't been operating in years but probably just because lack of power... (academia) ... so  if I end up staying here into the future I'll probably end up figuring out a way to script the email uploads either way, but I really don't have the time right now to deal with anything outside of what I know already works seamlessly (Davis)
















Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on December 06, 2018, 10:48:12 PM
Reread the thread.

Years ago,  when I had my PC,  I asked Brian Hamilton ( Weather display)  to write into his  program   so I could automatically update from the station both atmospheric and soil data.  When the PC died and I went to the dark side, (Apple)  I no longer could use his program for that.   

You could ask him if he still has his code for doing that and would be willing to send it to you, so you could use it.
 
To become a member of Globe.gov you have to apply. Go as a scientific group.   there are protocols but once you have your name and password for your station , you are good to go. Here is what I get daily from the Weatherlink site.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on December 07, 2018, 12:36:32 AM
My boss has been a globe teacher/trainer since 2002.

I have two davis stations reporting daily and I do aerosol/surface temps manually when I'm able to. I'm currently helping a lot of academic institutions get their weather stations functioning properly and participating in GLOBE.

I'm going to paste the email protocol below.  That's how we'd need it scripted, and it should be 15-minute intervals that look like what your image says. Davis does it automatically, but you can enter manually if you wanted to do 90+ lines per day..haha

I think this could be scripted to be automatic for pretty much any logger, especially with something like meteobridge.  It would be very advantageous for studying climate over time to have much larger and complete data sets on globe.  If someone wants to broadcast out from a davis machine right now  I could just put in lat/long and give them my org ID and their site ID -- the rest is automatic -- provided they do it through weatherlink share. (like i assume you are).  There's a category to add "citizen scientists" to our organization id.







I'm also wondering if I can get a Campbell logger broadcasting with a meteobridge even though it's not listed... with a serial connection and a USB cellular modem. I know people that use Campbell stuff would probably scoff at the idea but I'm trying to be pragmatic at getting stuff online with reliability and the least amount of money spent. I was told that when the loggers were last in use, people had to go out once per week and download the weather data. I don't want to have to go out to the device unless it's not responding, and I can't really justify spending a ton of money on their proprietary equipment even though a previous faculty member had enough grant money to put all these expensive units in locations that are miles away from campus.  I did find an rs-232>ethernet device laying around, so I might try using that with a verizon hotspot i have.  My concern is that you don't have a public IP address with verizon, so i'm not sure how i'd get it to work without trying, and it's december in ohio :)


I'm kinda learning a lot about weather stations on the fly while having a full academic load.  Bear with me. :)



GLOBE: Email Data Entry Instructions (2/2017)

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Davis Air Data (DAVAD)

The automated Davis instrument should be configured to output values in the format
below. You will need to define your Site's metadata to indicate you have a Davis 
weather station before you can submit your data. With email data entry, you can do
that by submitting an (ATSSM) record first, before any AMBAD records. 

NOTE: As of Aug 20 2003, the David instrument needs to be configured to output
Sea Level Pressure, not station pressure.  If your measurements were taken after
Aug 20 2003, yet your Davis instrument was Not configured to output Sea Level
Pressure, then please mark Field 14 as missing ( "X" ).

  Field1: DAVAD
  Field2: School ID
  Field3: Site Type and Number ( Currently only defined Atmosphere Sites
    accepted ) ( ATM-dd )
  Field4: Date and Time of Measurement ( UT ) ( YYYYMMDDHHmm )
  Field5: Temperature (degrees Celsius)
  Field6: Relative Humidity ( % or "M" for suspect data )
  Field7: Average Wind Speed ( meters/second or "M" for suspect data )
  Field8: Average Wind Direction ( up to 3 level compass direction e.g. N or
    NNE or NE or "M" for suspect data. )
  Field9: Maximum Wind Speed ( meters/second or "M" for suspect data )
  Field10: [IGNORED-NO LONGER USED] Maximum Wind Direction ( compass direction
    or "M" for suspect data, X=Placeholder for Unused Field )
  Field11: [IGNORED-NO LONGER USED] Wind Run ( kilometers or "M" for suspect data,
    X=Placeholder for Unused Field )
  Field12: Rainfall ( millimeters or "M" for suspect data)
  Field13: Rainfall Rate ( millimeters per hour or "M" for suspect data )
  Field14: Sea Level Pressure ( mbar or "M" for suspect data )

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Creating an E-Mail Message:

There are many computer programs available for creating e-mail messages. Your
system must be able to send e-mail messages via the Internet. Since the exact
method for creating a message varies from system to system, you should consult
your local system administrator or computer expert for this type of information.

All e-mail programs will allow you to specify the address where the message is
to be sent (TO: ) and the subject of the message (SUBJECT: ). There will also be
an area where you type the text of the message itself. This information is
required for entering data into the GLOBE archive. (Your system may allow you to
specify other information, for example "cc:", "bcc:", or "attachments". These
are not required for entering data into the GLOBE data archive, and can be left
empty.) Please do not send any data as an "attachment". All data must be entered
directly into the body of the message.


The Format of the E-Mail Message:

All data entry e-mail messages should be sent to either of the following two
addresse:

DATA@GLOBE.GOV

Training e-mail data entry messages must be sent to:

PRACTICEDATA@GLOBE.GOV

This is the address that you will enter in the TO: field of your e-mail message.
It must be entered exactly as shown, without any spaces and with no errors. If
there are any errors in the address, your message will not be received and your
data will not be entered into the archive.

To indicate that this is a GLOBE data entry message, enter the following in the
Subject: area of your e-mail message:

Data

You must enter this exactly as shown, with no spaces or extra words.
The first line of the text in your e-mail message must be as follows:

//AA

This tells the GLOBE computer that the lines that follow will contain your
measurements.
You will then need to enter your measurement values in the body of Email
message. Each line will contain the measurements for one protocol, measured at
one site, on one day. Your message can contain as many lines as you need. For
example, a single e-mail data entry message could contain many air temperature
and precipitation measurements from many different schools. The data entry
formats for each protocol is given in the next section.
After you have entered all of your measurements, the last line of your e-mail
message must be as follows:

//ZZ

This tells the computer that there are no more measurements in your message.
Below is an example of how your e-mail message should look based solely on what
we've just discussed:

TO: DATA@GLOBE.GOV

SUBJECT: DATA


//AA
<Measurement 1>
<Measurement 2>
<Measurement 3>
 .
 .
 .
//ZZ


General Format for Measurements:

The measurements for each protocol are entered in the text of the message, each
on a separate line. Each line contains information about which protocol is being
reported, when and where the measurements were made, and what measurement values
were recorded. Each piece of information is separated by a space. The GLOBE
computer interprets the information in the line based on its position in the
line. We call each piece of information a field. The fields are separated by
spaces and the first field is the one on the left. The first four fields are
always required.

Field 1

The first field on a line is always a special character code for the protocol
being reported.


Field 2

The second field on a line is always the School ID of the school whose data is
being reported in that line. The latest version of Email Data Entry supports
two formats for the School ID field:

- The original-format of the school ID is an 8 character code that uniquely
defines each school to the GLOBE data system. This ID is maintained for
backward-compatibility, but is also generated for new organizations created
through the new GLOBE website. This ID can be looked up through the GLOBE
website, or provided by your Partner or Country Coordinator.

for example:  ZZZZ1234

- The new GLOBE website assigns a numeric number to every organization in
GLOBE. If you prefer, you may use this ID instead of the old format.
However, you must prefix the numeric ID with 'ORG_ID:'. This organization
ID can be provided by your Partner or Country Coordinator.

for example:  ORG_ID:1234567

Note that the ZZZZ1234 school ID is no longer supported in the latest version
of Email Data Entry, historically used for training and for demonstration
purposes.


Field 3

The third field on a line is always the site identifier or number. See later in
this document for instructions on how to define a site. As with the School ID,
the latest version of Email Data Entry supports two formats for the site
identifier/number field:

- Depending on the protocol report being submitted, the original-format of the
site identifier field is either a 6 character code (e.g. ATM-01), or a simple
number 1 through 999. If you have an older site that was not created with the
new GLOBE website, you may continue to use this format when specifying the
site identifier/number. Sites created with the new GLOBE website no longer
support the old site identifier/number format.

- The new GLOBE website assigns a numeric number (siteid) to every site created
for an organization. The numeric siteid of an organization's site can be
looked-up using the Data Entry application via the GLOBE website, or be
provided by your Partner or Country Coordinator. If using this format, you
may prefix the numeric siteid with 'SITE_ID:'.

e.g. SITE_ID:12345  or
     12345

The siteid format will work for sites created with the old GLOBE website, and
*must* be used for sites created with the new GLOBE website.


Field 4

The fourth field on a line is always the date and time the measurements were
taken in Universal Time (UT). Unless specified otherwise, the format for the
date and time must be exactly as shown below:
YYYYMMDDHHmm

The first 4 characters are the year, the next 2 characters are the month, the
next two characters are the day, the next two characters are the hour, and the
last two characters are the minutes. You must use two characters for the month,
day, hour and minutes. If the month, day, hour, or minute values are under 10,
use a zero to make it two characters long. For example, if the measurement was
taken on March 8, 2010 at 1:05 UT, it would be written as:
201003080105

Remember that you must report the date and time that the measurement was taken,
not the date and time that it is being reported. You must also be sure that you
report the time in UT, also called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT). Remember that the
difference between UT and your local time will change if you switch between
standard and daylight savings time. Also note that the month is given before the
day.  Exceptions to this rule occur for all Study Site (SL) definitions,
Study Site Meta Data reports and the Lilac and Bud Burst protocols,
where a date is asked for instead of the date and time. For these observations,
just the year, month, and day are reported, and the hour and minutes are
not reported. For these observations the format is written as:

YYYYMMDD


Remaining Fields:

The remaining fields on a line will contain the actual measured values for that
protocol and are described below. Your measurement entries may exceed one line
if you wish. Each field must always be filled with either a value. Sometimes
there will be a field defined for which you have no data because you did not do
that part of the protocol, or because it doesn't apply. In these cases, you must
place an "X" in that field so that the GLOBE computer will know that there is no
data to be entered for that field. However, many fields require a value. In
these cases, an "X" for that field will generate an error.


Comments:

For all protocols, the first four fields must be reported and cannot be reported
as missing. All notes after the field definitions that mention required fields
assume that the first four fields are always being reported.

The protocols listed below allow you to describe conditions that affected your
measurement. If you wish to include these comments, they must be written after
all the other fields have been filled in. For example, if you wish to make a
comment about an air temperature (ATM) observation, the comment would need to
start after the last field, which in this case is Field 7. If you do not have
any comments for this group of measurements, do not enter a missing value for it
( i.e. 'X' ). Do not write any of the special character codes within your
comments.




Reread the thread.

Years ago,  when I had my PC,  I asked Brian Hamilton ( Weather display)  to write into his  program   so I could automatically update from the station both atmospheric and soil data.  When the PC died and I went to the dark side, (Apple)  I no longer could use his program for that.   

You could ask him if he still has his code for doing that and would be willing to send it to you, so you could use it.
 
To become a member of Globe.gov you have to apply. Go as a scientific group.   there are protocols but once you have your name and password for your station , you are good to go. Here is what I get daily from the Weatherlink site.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on December 07, 2018, 12:40:42 AM
A lot of schools overpaid for weatherbug stuff and i think they're having trouble getting it to work with globe now that there's been some shifting in the company. I need to take some time to look at it, and if they use the same basic format as davis devices to email in dailies to globe.

I'm going to try returning a  contact with someone at a NJ institution tomorrow who's working with that equipment and see if I can get more info and hopefully a solution real quick.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on December 07, 2018, 12:45:15 AM
I have been uploading to Globe for years.    Weatherlink will do the atmospheric, but I also have soil and they won't do that.

You have to apply to globe.gov.  You have to identify your site, protocols. etc.

Oh, and yeah, it annoys me to no end that they want soil moisture samples but won't take soil moisture readings from weather stations. I think it's a huge fallacy in the system. We have to take a sample, weigh it, bake it in an oven for a day or two, then weigh it again to be able to submit soil moisture. I mean, it's a fun way to engage kids with using basic equipment, but baking dirt just seems like a big waste of electricity and time. (not to mention how much more soil moisture data we'd have on globe if they took station readings)
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on December 07, 2018, 09:05:44 AM
I have been uploading to Globe for years.    Weatherlink will do the atmospheric, but I also have soil and they won't do that.

You have to apply to globe.gov.  You have to identify your site, protocols. etc.

Oh, and yeah, it annoys me to no end that they want soil moisture samples but won't take soil moisture readings from weather stations. I think it's a huge fallacy in the system. We have to take a sample, weigh it, bake it in an oven for a day or two, then weigh it again to be able to submit soil moisture. I mean, it's a fun way to engage kids with using basic equipment, but baking dirt just seems like a big waste of electricity and time. (not to mention how much more soil moisture data we'd have on globe if they took station readings)

I had Brian do it for me, as I wanted it to be automatic.  There are several methods and the Davis is one of them.  The baking is what we old chemistry guys did in analytical chemistry.   Back when we did all the analysis manually.  Weigh the sample to 3 decimal places. put it in the drying oven for 24 hours, let it cool in a dessicator then reweigh it . the difference is the mass of the water.   Then calculate the moisture level.  Now you read the probe and it is done.

I have send samples via the Davis to them and they were always accepted.    If you want the soil sample/temp sent  then someone has to write the routine for the software to send the daily sample to globe.gov.  that is if you want it automated.

Right now WL 2.0 sends only the atmospheric and I would hope, that enough people would contact Davis Support email or on their FB or whatever  page and ask for them to do that.  The IP logger sends the data , why not send the soil values as well as an option.

With the conditions in the world changing,  I thinkI would be interested in sharing my data.

Here is the protocol for Davis Instruments.   https://www.globe.gov/documents/352961/353769/Davis+Soil+Moisture+and+Temperature+Station+protocol/d554e0a1-9f32-41bd-a2fe-eda45c555aea
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Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on December 07, 2018, 05:09:56 PM
extra annoying because if i look at the globe email protocol, it accepts soil moisture, so yeah, it's davis not sending it. (or globe telling davis to not send it because they say "only atmosphere for davis")

I have been uploading to Globe for years.    Weatherlink will do the atmospheric, but I also have soil and they won't do that.

You have to apply to globe.gov.  You have to identify your site, protocols. etc.

Oh, and yeah, it annoys me to no end that they want soil moisture samples but won't take soil moisture readings from weather stations. I think it's a huge fallacy in the system. We have to take a sample, weigh it, bake it in an oven for a day or two, then weigh it again to be able to submit soil moisture. I mean, it's a fun way to engage kids with using basic equipment, but baking dirt just seems like a big waste of electricity and time. (not to mention how much more soil moisture data we'd have on globe if they took station readings)

I had Brian do it for me, as I wanted it to be automatic.  There are several methods and the Davis is one of them.  The baking is what we old chemistry guys did in analytical chemistry.   Back when we did all the analysis manually.  Weigh the sample to 3 decimal places. put it in the drying oven for 24 hours, let it cool in a dessicator then reweigh it . the difference is the mass of the water.   Then calculate the moisture level.  Now you read the probe and it is done.

I have send samples via the Davis to them and they were always accepted.    If you want the soil sample/temp sent  then someone has to write the routine for the software to send the daily sample to globe.gov.  that is if you want it automated.

Right now WL 2.0 sends only the atmospheric and I would hope, that enough people would contact Davis Support email or on their FB or whatever  page and ask for them to do that.  The IP logger sends the data , why not send the soil values as well as an option.

With the conditions in the world changing,  I thinkI would be interested in sharing my data.

Here is the protocol for Davis Instruments.   https://www.globe.gov/documents/352961/353769/Davis+Soil+Moisture+and+Temperature+Station+protocol/d554e0a1-9f32-41bd-a2fe-eda45c555aea
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Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on December 07, 2018, 06:15:22 PM
I am going to bow out of this discussion.  I gave the information I had, a few suggestions. there is nothing more I can offer.

I do suggest to get weatherlink 2.0  their website to include soil moisture values and temps.  The climate is changing and the information has to be valuable.

I wish all of you success in your endeavors.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on December 10, 2018, 10:52:45 AM
I am going to bow out of this discussion.  I gave the information I had, a few suggestions. there is nothing more I can offer.

I do suggest to get weatherlink 2.0  their website to include soil moisture values and temps.  The climate is changing and the information has to be valuable.

I wish all of you success in your endeavors.


I do thank you for your information and your contributions. 

The one thing I think got lost in the static here is I came specifically looking for people who were running weatherlink 2.0, which is why this post is in the Weatherlink forum.  I have the organization ID,  I am looking for dependable data from davis users, and I can create a site ID on GLOBE for them, under our organization, as "citizen-scientists."   

You're correct. It would be greatly helpful for climate study if we had a lot more engagement. The conversation went off the rails turning instantly into "can x y or z work?"
Those are future questions.

This post is supposed to be targeting people who are using weatherlink 2.0.  I am not sure how I did not communicate that clearly in the original post.



Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: livefeed on January 29, 2019, 11:27:21 PM
@ hazardc I am weatherlink 2.0 with Davis equipment and would like to send you data.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: ConligWX on March 05, 2019, 06:20:32 AM
If you are wanting to upload to Globe here is the requirement:

Quote
The system allows only Trained GLOBE Teacher to Enter data using those platforms. Once you get trained, you should be able to log into the website and create data sites, enter data, create student accounts.
The reason behind that is to protect the integrity of the data, even if the data is coming from a weather station, it has be sent from a trained account.
To get Trained, you can do so through attending a GLOBE Training Workshop in person or by completing the requirements for the eTraining.
To find a GLOBE Workshop near you, please check the following link:
https://www.globe.gov/get-trained/workshops

To find out more about the eTraining and it's requirements, please check the following link:
https://www.globe.gov/get-trained/protocol-etraining

Once you get trained, you will be able to user the different data entry platforms including, Desktop data entry forms, Data Entry mobile app and email data entry.
You can create a site for your weather station and send data from that weather station, however at this time, only Weather stations with data loggers can can send data directly to GLOBE, so if you do not have a data logger, you may not be able to do so. You can still use the email data entry to send big amount of data to the GLOBE Database especially if you you can create an app that fills the email as the GLOBE database requires.
For more information about data entry and email format, please check the following link:
https://www.globe.gov/globe-data/data-entry
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: waiukuweather on May 29, 2019, 06:19:40 PM
Globe function has been added back to the weather display software (untested )
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: lightmaster on May 30, 2019, 11:32:54 PM
Considering how little traffic the GLOBE section gets, figured I'd post this here in hopes that someone can answer my question.

So, I got data upload via email working from my Meteobridge Nano SD. I messed up the wind direction by sending the degrees and not the 3 letter cardinal direction, so it was rejected for that reason alone. When entering in the converter for direction however, it got me thinking about the specifics of the rest of the data. I have been unable to find out in the documents if they want the max or average for several of the measurements.

Quote from: Globe.gov documentation
Field1: DAVAD
Field2: School ID
Field3: Site Type and Number ( Currently only defined Atmosphere Sites accepted ) ( ATM-dd )  -OR-  SITE_ID:12345 format (refer to "General Format for Measurements")
Field4: Date and Time of Measurement ( UT ) ( YYYYMMDDHHmm )
Field5: Temperature (degrees Celsius)
Field6: Relative Humidity ( % or "M" for suspect data )
Field7: Average Wind Speed ( meters/second or "M" for suspect data )
Field8: Average Wind Direction ( up to 3 level compass direction e.g. N or NNE or NE or "M" for suspect data. )
Field9: Maximum Wind Speed ( meters/second or "M" for suspect data )
Field10: [IGNORED-NO LONGER USED] Maximum Wind Direction ( compass direction or "M" for suspect data, X=Placeholder for Unused Field )
Field11: [IGNORED-NO LONGER USED] Wind Run ( kilometers or "M" for suspect data, X=Placeholder for Unused Field )
Field12: Rainfall ( millimeters or "M" for suspect data)
Field13: Rainfall Rate ( millimeters per hour or "M" for suspect data )
Field14: Sea Level Pressure ( mbar or "M" for suspect data )

Field5, Temp. Should this be the average of 15 minutes, or max of 15 minutes?
Field6, Humidity. Average of 15 minutes, or max of 15 minutes?
Field13, Rain Rate. Should it be the max or average instanteous mm per hour, or the literal amount of rain that has fallen in the past hour (WU's method)
Field14, Pressure. Should it be the max, average, or min?

The others quite literally say average or max for them, so no question about those.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on May 31, 2019, 12:53:41 AM
Globe function has been added back to the weather display software (untested )

Would this globe function potentially work with all if the supported stations and not just Davis? 
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on May 31, 2019, 11:08:04 AM
I recently got the Weatherlink Live unit.  I still have the Weatherlink IP as well.    I am keeping it just to test out the new unit.

I am sending data to Globe.gov as I have done for the past 20 years.  I would be getting daily reports from Globe.gov that the data was received, a listing of the days data ,etc.   

The problem is that if I send it using the IP logger to the Weatherlink.com site  it goes through and I get daily reports.  However, if I send data to the same location using the Weatherlink nothing...

Anyone else using the Weatherlink Live unit and the Weatherlink.com site to send data actually getting data through?

I also send data to CWOP and Underground and it sends and receives.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on May 31, 2019, 02:13:37 PM
That's actually interesting because Davis doesn't list globe as supported by wl live


This is why I have started using wifilogger pretty much exclusively for GLOBE.  No more reliance on Davis if they don't remedy it, but I will b calling soon either way since I'm sending in 2 vp2 units for refurbishing. 
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on May 31, 2019, 02:39:33 PM
That's actually interesting because Davis doesn't list globe as supported by wl live


This is why I have started using wifilogger pretty much exclusively for GLOBE.  No more reliance on Davis if they don't remedy it, but I will b calling soon either way since I'm sending in 2 vp2 units for refurbishing.

Actually it does show up on the Live site for globe.  Works with IP and not with the new toy.

Wifilogger?   do tell.  does it also send soil moisture data as I have a station .
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: lightmaster on May 31, 2019, 03:09:48 PM
That's actually interesting because Davis doesn't list globe as supported by wl live


This is why I have started using wifilogger pretty much exclusively for GLOBE.  No more reliance on Davis if they don't remedy it, but I will b calling soon either way since I'm sending in 2 vp2 units for refurbishing.

Actually it does show up on the Live site for globe.  Works with IP and not with the new toy.

Wifilogger?   do tell.  does it also send soil moisture data as I have a station .

Uploading to WeatherLink from the computer software, the site wouldn't upload to the GLOBE. No error or anything, just nothing ever showed up on GLOBE. I ended up using my Meteobridge Nano SD to schedule an email upload every 15 minutes and it's been running successfully for about 12 hours now.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on May 31, 2019, 03:22:56 PM
That's actually interesting because Davis doesn't list globe as supported by wl live


This is why I have started using wifilogger pretty much exclusively for GLOBE.  No more reliance on Davis if they don't remedy it, but I will b calling soon either way since I'm sending in 2 vp2 units for refurbishing.

Actually it does show up on the Live site for globe.  Works with IP and not with the new toy.

Wifilogger?   do tell.  does it also send soil moisture data as I have a station .


Not yet.  Just getting the firmwaee out in the wild.  It only sends what WL does right now.  We probably will end up enabling all the globe protocols in future but need to get the foundation solid first.  I know both myself and Mr wifilogger work in agriculture as well, so things are a bit frantic at the moment
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: johnd on May 31, 2019, 04:35:46 PM
The problem is that if I send it using the IP logger to the Weatherlink.com site  it goes through and I get daily reports.  However, if I send data to the same location using the Weatherlink [Live, presumably] nothing...

Probably worth an enquiry to wl.com support - I'm guessing that it should be working and might be a bug. Each of the five upload device types** seems to be configured at least slightly differently at wl.com and it's entirely possible that the GLOBE upload for WLL has a glitch somewhere.

**
1. Local Weatherlink software
2. IP logger
3. WLL
4. Connect
5. EM
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: galfert on May 31, 2019, 05:46:45 PM
The problem is that if I send it using the IP logger to the Weatherlink.com site  it goes through and I get daily reports.  However, if I send data to the same location using the Weatherlink [Live, presumably] nothing...

Probably worth an enquiry to wl.com support - I'm guessing that it should be working and might be a bug. Each of the five upload device types** seems to be configured at least slightly differently at wl.com and it's entirely possible that the GLOBE upload for WLL has a glitch somewhere.

**
1. Local Weatherlink software
2. IP logger
3. WLL
4. Connect
5. EM

The WiFiLogger isn't one of those 5 types. The WiFiLogger can upload to Weatherlink.com I believe. Am I right? If so, why is that?
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: waiukuweather on May 31, 2019, 06:15:36 PM
Quote
Globe function has been added back to the weather display software (untested )

Would this globe function potentially work with all if the supported stations and not just Davis?
yes
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: johnd on June 01, 2019, 03:57:30 AM
The WiFiLogger isn't one of those 5 types. The WiFiLogger can upload to Weatherlink.com I believe. Am I right? If so, why is that?

OK, I was listing the five upload device types that wl.com currently recognises. WFL effectively emulates either the IP logger or local WL software depending on the DID - I suspect the way that these two are handled is actually quite similar, but IIRC the middle 4 bytes of the DID define which is which.

So WFL is not itself one of primary station types (that would be rather unlikely for a third-party logger  :grin:) ) but emulates one of the five.

At least, that's how I rationalise it all!
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on June 01, 2019, 04:08:08 AM
Quote
Globe function has been added back to the weather display software (untested )

Would this globe function potentially work with all if the supported stations and not just Davis?
yes

That's great to hear. I'm trying to get a couple CR-3000 campbell loggers back online that have been laying around in the field for a few years.

This could really be useful with all of the schools with ambient weather stations... weatherbug...

I will have to send out some emails and try to find some globe schools with these stations and set up some time to come try to  set up a site and test compatibility.  this could be an immensely useful thing for GLOBE. 

GLOBE is a great product, but has a lot of catching up to do in getting stations online. It's never really been intuitive for an average user, especially if any diagnostic work is needed.

WifiLogger is going to really help with Davisstations. because a bunch of schools bought them without any type of logger at all.

WxSTEM takes control of weatherlink.com accounts for the schools that buy into their program, so this software would be helpful for those schools who all run weatherlinkIP with WxSTEM so there's no need to touch their equipment and for schools with different branded stations.

I'd like to eventually get to supporting all of the email protocols through automation, davis skips over a few things that could be really useful.


Hope the meteobridge globe development keeps going well, i'd love to test that as well. I work with some of the top decision makers for GLOBE funding so I'd really like to keep helping to get the project moving more quickly in the right direction.


WFL, MB, and WD together could really really really help GLOBE in immense ways!



Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on June 01, 2019, 04:11:51 AM
Quote
Globe function has been added back to the weather display software (untested )

Would this globe function potentially work with all if the supported stations and not just Davis?
yes

That's great to hear. I'm trying to get a couple CR-3000 campbell loggers back online that have been laying around in the field for a few years.

This could really be useful with all of the schools with ambient weather stations... weatherbug...

I will have to send out some emails and try to find some globe schools with these stations and set up some time to come try to  set up a site and test compatibility.  this could be an immensely useful thing for GLOBE. 

GLOBE is a great product, but has a lot of catching up to do in getting stations online. It's never really been intuitive for an average user, especially if any diagnostic work is needed.

WifiLogger is going to really help with Davisstations. because a bunch of schools bought them without any type of logger at all.

WxSTEM takes control of weatherlink.com accounts for the schools that buy into their program, so this software would be helpful for those schools who all run weatherlinkIP with WxSTEM so there's no need to touch their equipment and for schools with different branded stations.

I'd like to eventually get to supporting all of the email protocols through automation, davis skips over a few things that could be really useful.


Hope the meteobridge globe development keeps going well, i'd love to test that as well. I work with some of the top decision makers for GLOBE funding so I'd really like to keep helping to get the project moving more quickly in the right direction.


WFL, MB, and WD together could really really really help GLOBE in immense ways!


WFL doesn't work with GLOBE through WL.COM, but it DOES have NATIVE support in the WFL interface, but I don't think this version has been pushed to a public release yet. Any GLOBE teachers with wifiloggers I will send it to and would be grateful for the help. They're solid! 
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on June 01, 2019, 11:48:13 AM
I am going to send data via the IP logger to Globe until Davis gets it sorted out.   For us MAC users, the software options are limited,  We do have Weatherdisplay and Weathercat, weathersnoop but that is it.  For me the best option is to use ther WL.com  live .   

The IP logger you mention isn't for the mac users. PC... sure
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on June 01, 2019, 01:53:22 PM
Would you mind testing out weatherdisplay GLOBE?


If WD will send globe data from any station, it would open up a ton more options and would open the door to getting my Campbell Stuf onto globe.       I'm working on flux tower today and have a lot on my schedule next five days plus I need to get fice more stations onto globe with wifilogger this week. 
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on June 01, 2019, 01:56:37 PM
Wifilogger can be configured from anything with a web browser, if that's what you were referring to.  You just need the globe compatible firmware update if you already have a wifilogger
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: lightmaster on June 01, 2019, 02:08:36 PM
That's great to hear. I'm trying to get a couple CR-3000 campbell loggers back online that have been laying around in the field for a few years.

This could really be useful with all of the schools with ambient weather stations... weatherbug...

TP-Link Meteobridge's set up with an automatic email upload should help with the ambient weather stations at least.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on June 01, 2019, 04:16:22 PM
Yeah.  I'm trying to attack the globe station thing from three vectors.

Wifilogger for Davis
Meteobridge
Weatherdisplay
(WD should also work with ambient/globe now but I have no way to test at the moment ... Everything I have here is a vp2  and it'll be a week or three before I get to the cr-3000 Campbell stuff

I think wd seems to have the most opportunity to put stations online that aren't Davis stations if we can get enough people with globe credentials to test it.   
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: johnd on June 01, 2019, 04:21:23 PM
So what's the issue with GLOBE forwarding from weatherlink.com? Is it not working for some reason? I understand that some/many Davis users may not be uploading to wl.com and may need other mechanisms but I'm just curious specifically about why wl.com is not working when it probably should be.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on June 01, 2019, 04:26:57 PM
Some of it is user error, not formatting sites correctly


Some of it is the loggers.    For instance, the wifilogger ( the one on here everyone loves, for good reason!) Will send info to wl.co. but wifilogger + wl.com = globe was getting lost somewhere in the mix


The remedy was to just make wifilogger support globe natively in the wifilogger interface .   This is way better for globe schools because it's considerably cheaper, it's on wifi, and it takes the Davis proxy out of the equation.  Also, people obviously love rapid fire to WU at no additional cost
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on June 01, 2019, 04:29:27 PM
You should only be sending globe an email every 24 hours with the 15 minute interval records in a single email.  If people start hammering the email server like that it's gonna cause problems in long run
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: hazardc on June 01, 2019, 04:31:20 PM
BTW I  do use a WLIP in my office and it does globe fine through wl.com. Make sure firmware for logger is up to date
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: johnd on June 01, 2019, 04:39:55 PM
For instance, the wifilogger ( the one on here everyone loves, for good reason!) Will send info to wl.co. but wifilogger + wl.com = globe was getting lost somewhere in the mix

Have to say that sounds odd to me. I would take a look next week, but I thought that GLOBE was only for schools and non-education users were discouraged?
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: galfert on June 01, 2019, 07:32:28 PM
GLOBE originally was for schools. But now they have developed the program to allow anyone, that they then call a "Citizen Scientist" to participate. The problem is that in order to do that you have to go through an extensive eTraining Program (or attend a seminar) to get educated and trained on what they call "Protocol." There are 4 categories to get trained on. Most applicable here for weather station use would be the Atmosphere training category. You only need to complete one of these 4 categories. The other 3 categories are Biosphere, Hydrosphere, and Pedosphere. But the Atmostphere category alone is several hours. There are like 9 module sections to go through for the Atmosphere category. The other categories have even more modules and more tests, so Atmosphere luckily seems the smallest. I haven't gone through the whole program yet but I looked into it. You have to complete the module sections and then pass a test for each. I think you need an 80% passing score. I think it would probably take a full day to get through it if you can stomach it or spread it across a few days and dedicate an hour at a time to the 9 different module sections. I don't know what happens if you just attempt a test without going through the training. I'm tempted to just try and do that and see how I score but I don't know what happens if you don't pass and then what the process would be to retake. Worst case would be something like you fail the eTraining and then have to attend a seminar. You will not be allowed to upload data until you complete the training.

I suppose if you enter in as part of an organization or a school then you don't have to do the training. But then you need to be invited by that organization or school.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: johnd on June 02, 2019, 04:10:29 AM
The problem is that in order to do that you have to go through an extensive eTraining Program (or attend a seminar) to get educated and trained on what they call "Protocol."

OK, thanks. But I am tempted to wonder why bother? It's not as if the world is short of online weather station networks - there are probably too many already. What unique features does GLOBE bring to the party that makes it worth expending time on what sounds like a high entry bar?
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: galfert on June 02, 2019, 08:21:37 AM
The problem is that in order to do that you have to go through an extensive eTraining Program (or attend a seminar) to get educated and trained on what they call "Protocol."

OK, thanks. But I am tempted to wonder why bother? It's not as if the world is short of online weather station networks - there are probably too many already. What unique features does GLOBE bring to the party that makes it worth expending time on what sounds like a high entry bar?

Quite simply because it isn't just a weather system. It is a climate system. It encompasses 3 other categories than weather (Atmosphere) that deal with plants, and animals and insects, oceans and lakes and rivers, and soil, rock, erosion and it ties them all together. It has data acquisition and analysis tools designed for education of students and for use by NASA and NOAA and other scientists in many countries. It was designed to be a global database for use by over 100 countries and works in different languages. It is also to promote the interest in science by not just studying it but by doing science and feeling like part of it.

Bottom line is you are helping the planet in many ways as it is more than just a weather system.

It does make me wonder though why not just ingest MADIS data. But I think the answer is because they want people (students and teachers and scientists) to be part of their own system not some other data coming from elsewhere.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: johnd on June 02, 2019, 08:40:45 AM
Quite simply because it isn't just a weather system.

OK, thanks again; and fair enough.

But then if they do want contributors of weather data from a wider community then why not have a separate and simpler type of log-in simply called eg 'data contributor' and with limited access to other features of the program (whatever they might be). It does all sound like needing a review.

And actually IME the typical weather hobbyist is more clued up about weather and climate science than the average school teacher, so perhaps the log-in requirements should be reversed :-) . But, more seriously, what seems to happen at too many schools and colleges is that some new weather/climate initiative is started by an enthusiastic and reasonably knowledgeable teacher, but who then moves on to another post elsewhere and the weather station is either abandoned or left to languish under the supervision of another teacher with less interest and insight into how to maintain the station & use the data.
Title: Weatherlink Live
Post by: Aardvark on June 02, 2019, 10:09:02 AM
I am pretty sure that although the online website for Weatherlink Live is up and running, it isn't going to send data to Globe.gov.    If you want it to happen there are two viable options.  Use the IP logger and it will work, or wait.

i have played with this for a month and I am leaving my IP logger online to automatically send that data.  Sadly it will only send atmospheric data  and the soil moisture won't go.  What is worse is if you have, like me a mac, and can't use the manual data setting that the PC version of Weatherlink has.   there you can get a txt that can be sent manually to globe.gov that has the atmospheric and soil moisture readings.  But the mac, nada.

A while back Brian H. with Weatherdisplay for the PC (before i jumped ship) had a routine that the program would send automatically to Globe both items.  Since his code was getting long and not many actually used it, he removed it after I agreed.    He probably has it stored somewhere and might be able to add it to his current program.   I unfortunately have the mac version so I don't know what is what.

I have asked Weathercat to add that only to be growled at  and after it isn't worth it to me to grumble.

Now Globe.gov provides research data to scientists and to real good teachers who find a value in world wide data.  I took the training and it lasts about 45 minutes in person and I am not sure if it has an online version,   I have been sending data since 1993.
Title: Re: Weatherlink Live
Post by: johnd on June 02, 2019, 11:28:24 AM
I am pretty sure that although the online website for Weatherlink Live is up and running, it isn't going to send data to Globe.gov.

Why do you keep saying this though? GLOBE is on the list of upload targets for a WLL account and allows you to enter all the necessary parameters. Are you saying that you've tried this specific option and it doesn't work for some reason?
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: lightmaster on June 02, 2019, 12:48:34 PM
OK, thanks. But I am tempted to wonder why bother? It's not as if the world is short of online weather station networks - there are probably too many already. What unique features does GLOBE bring to the party that makes it worth expending time on what sounds like a high entry bar?

I took and passed all of the Atmosphere tests and I really enjoyed the PowerPoints they showed. Took a couple hours to read through it all, but I do feel that I learned a lot from it. I'd say that free knowledge alone is worth the time it takes to get through it.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: johnd on June 02, 2019, 01:40:26 PM
Well, yes, I'm all in favour of learning and self-improvement, but there's also got to be some cost-benefit checking. Not sure how many will feel it's worthwhile just to be able to submit their data to Yet Another Weather Network (YAWN™).
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on June 02, 2019, 04:04:08 PM
Well, yes, I'm all in favour of learning and self-improvement, but there's also got to be some cost-benefit checking. Not sure how many will feel it's worthwhile just to be able to submit their data to Yet Another Weather Network (YAWN™).
Other than a one time a day upload, it loads in milliseconds.  Cost?   well it costs nothing, if you have Weatherlink. You set up and it is an archive on Weatherlink.com servers for 15 min grabs.  Yet.  There is no fanfare other than a hearty hand shake and one of these things once a day. (from my thingy)
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: johnd on June 02, 2019, 04:50:11 PM
...

Whoosh (I'm tempted to say), but let me try one last time and then I'll give up:

Quote from: Aardvark
I am pretty sure that although the online website for Weatherlink Live is up and running, it isn't going to send data to Globe.gov.

Why do you keep saying this though? GLOBE is on the list of upload targets for a WLL account and allows you to enter all the necessary parameters. Are you saying that you've tried this specific option and it doesn't work for some reason?
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on June 02, 2019, 06:40:15 PM
...


Why do you keep saying this though? GLOBE is on the list of upload targets for a WLL account and allows you to enter all the necessary parameters. Are you saying that you've tried this specific option and it doesn't work for some reason?
It does work yet for the Weatherlink Live accounts.. oh it is one of the options , but it doesn't work.   I can get it to work with my IP logger to the same account.   I have two stations. Clark Blvd. and WeatherMain.  The latter works, the former no.  I am trying to wake up the kid who does the programming at Davis to go in and fix that thing.   

I think I have beat this thing to death.  Do as you see fit,  May the rain move to your area instead of ours.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: lightmaster on June 02, 2019, 07:38:08 PM
You should only be sending globe an email every 24 hours with the 15 minute interval records in a single email.  If people start hammering the email server like that it's gonna cause problems in long run

I'll see if I can find it again and I could be wrong, but I recall reading that WL sends the data for you every 15 mins using the email method and their email.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on June 02, 2019, 10:55:23 PM
You should only be sending globe an email every 24 hours with the 15 minute interval records in a single email.  If people start hammering the email server like that it's gonna cause problems in long run

I'll see if I can find it again and I could be wrong, but I recall reading that WL sends the data for you every 15 mins using the email method and their email.
It doesn't work on the online.com version yet.   Do you get a report similar to the previous thread one each day?
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: PaulMy on June 02, 2019, 11:31:07 PM
In my experience,
I have Globe upload settings in my Weatherlink PC and in weatherlink.com.
Weatherlink PC/Envoy is run only occasionally - twice a month or sometime more often for about 30 minutes, and it is set at 10 minute interval.
WiFiLogger/Vue console runs continuous and updates to weatherlink.com at 5 minute interval.
 
Before the recent Globe upload feature was added to WiFiLogger, Globe was NOT being updated by weatherlink.com unless I started Weatherlink PC, BUT the updated data was the 5-minute interval WiFiLogger data sent to weatherlink.com.  The Globe update data emails covered all the days since the previous running of Weatherlink PC to the then current time.

With the revised WiFiLogger Globe update feature in which I have set the School and Site IDs, WiFiLogger data is being sent to Globe at the 15 minute interval every day from 08:00 UTC to 07:45 UTC next day.

Enjoy,
Paul

Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on June 03, 2019, 09:12:40 AM
In my experience,
I have Globe upload settings in my Weatherlink PC and in weatherlink.com.
Weatherlink PC/Envoy is run only occasionally - twice a month or sometime more often for about 30 minutes, and it is set at 10 minute interval.
WiFiLogger/Vue console runs continuous and updates to weatherlink.com at 5 minute interval.
 
Before the recent Globe upload feature was added to WiFiLogger, Globe was NOT being updated by weatherlink.com unless I started Weatherlink PC, BUT the updated data was the 5-minute interval WiFiLogger data sent to weatherlink.com.  The Globe update data emails covered all the days since the previous running of Weatherlink PC to the then current time.

With the revised WiFiLogger Globe update feature in which I have set the School and Site IDs, WiFiLogger data is being sent to Globe at the 15 minute interval every day from 08:00 UTC to 07:45 UTC next day.

Enjoy,
Paul
and do you receive the daily report when you do send data that it was received
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: PaulMy on June 03, 2019, 09:08:23 PM
Yes, I get a copy of the data sent and a reply from GLOBE of the same data received.  And it shows for my station on the GLOBE map.


Enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: Aardvark on June 03, 2019, 09:13:35 PM
Ok then, I am done. Going to send data via the online website with the IP logger until Weatherlink Live works out.
Title: Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
Post by: lightmaster on June 04, 2019, 02:18:08 AM
Maybe it only works with official IP loggers or something, but my setup is MB => WL software => WL website. If I setup globe.gov on the WL site I get nothing at all on GLOBE's site.

In trying to get the 15 min measurements working properly from MB => GLOBE, had a question. What value for total rain are they looking for for the 15 min measurements, the amount of rainfall in the last 15 mins, or the sum of rainfall for the day up to that 15 min period?