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Weather Software => WeatherLink/weatherlink.com by Davis Instruments => Topic started by: captgadget on August 07, 2020, 12:40:17 PM
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Why is bluetooth on the weatherlink live? It doesn't show up on my Android phone nor my iPad and my weather is always up to date so why bluetooth?
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How did you set up your WLL in the first place without BT? It's the only way to get started AFAIK.
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Press the part above the led light for a few seconds. It should turn the Bluetooth back on again
Bluetooth is only used to setup the wll and get it joined to WiFi network.
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Great! It flashes constantly and I wasn't sure if it's supposed to or not but since I get my live data updates I guess everything is working fine then.
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The blue light does flash when Bluetooth isn't active. Not all the time, but I haven't figured out what it signifies, and Davis doesn't tell you.
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The blue light does flash when Bluetooth isn't active. Not all the time, but I haven't figured out what it signifies, and Davis doesn't tell you.
Yes, TBH the instructions need amending slightly to say that if you should ever need to re-establish BT to the WLL unit then you may need to touch the WLL touchpad even if the blue LED is flashing intermittently.
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Well my blue light flashes all the time so I covered it with a piece of black tape.
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Maybe there is a difference in blue light with different firmware.
What firmware do you guys have at present?
My wll is a week old and still have firmware: May 28, 2019 on it.
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My firmware is 2020-06-26, my light does flash a fair amount, and I have taped a bit of cardboard over it!
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My firmware is 2020-06-26, my light does flash a fair amount, and I have taped a bit of cardboard over it!
Just got my new firmware pushed down tonight after raising a ticket with Davis Support.
Not that I see any difference but it would be nice to know what changes there are.
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Not that I see any difference but it would be nice to know what changes there are.
Short answer is that I don't know - Davis don't seem to make public any changelog that I'm aware of.
However, AIUI Davis worked hard to make the initial firmware release as bug-free as possible and to minimise the need for subsequent F/W updates. Of course, one or two bugs still escaped and these are being squashed as they're reported/identified. The only recent change I can call to mind is that one or two of the rainfall totals (eg monthly and/or storm) weren't resetting automatically as designed, although a WLL power cycle seemed to fix this as a workaround. Mark may recall another bug that we encountered some months back as well - I've forgotten the details.
Unfortunately, users (and indeed dealers) don't have any way of forcing F/W updates - they have to be pushed by Davis. So F/W is limited to whatever was installed at the factory until Davis choose to push an update, either generally or by individual request.
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They don't seem to like telling us what has changed, the only details I know (all related to the local WLL API as I reported them) are...
- 2020-06-26:
Fix for the 24 hour rain total not showing on some stations
?Fix for slow current conditions update rate for wind gusts? (not reported by me) - 2020-04-15:
Fix for wind direction changing to null when avg speed drops to zero
Fix for transmitter disconnection not nulling out sensor values
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Did they ever fix the Ethernet port? Mine is broken, no LED indication of life.
WiFi works, so I have been running it all along that way.
Greg H.
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I've run mine off the ethernet port OK, and the lights worked, though I'm back on WiFi now (I ran out of ports on my WiFi station).
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I've not had a problem with any Ethernet port on a WLL unit either so maybe it was simply a faulty unit?
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Ethernet port works on mine, though using WiFi at present.
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Did they ever fix the Ethernet port? Mine is broken, no LED indication of life.
WiFi works, so I have been running it all along that way.
Greg H.
I have never tried the WiFi, only ethernet since I hooked mine up.
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I got a very early one directly from Davis. Probably a defect.
I took a peek inside and the solder around the Ethernet connector looked fine.
I am not sure it is worth the candle to try to get a replacement.
Greg H.
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My ethernet lights don't work either. They worked for awhile then they go dark. activity lights come on at the router but not on the WLL. My "hi/lo & totals" for my temp 1 only show dash marks for my leaf station also. its under extra sensors on the app. I was hoping the last firmware update would fix the problems, but no luck.... ](*,)
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I take it both of you have raised tickets with Davis to address the issues?
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I just tried connecting an Ethernet cable and I see LEDs on both the switch and the WLL. There is activity.
I tried scanning with Angry IP, but I only see one address. The other "alive" hosts are all accounted for.
I re-scanned after disconnecting the Ethernet cable and still only see the same WeatherLinkLIVE.local address (MAC Vendor is Expressif), so that was the only one showing with the cable connected. I don't know if there is a good WiFi connection if there is a way to change back to Ethernet.
After the disconnect and subsequent re-connect, the LEDs are now off on both the switch and WLL. I looked at the WLL manual and you choose between WiFi and Ethernet. Maybe once you have selected WiFi, you can't go back as long as it is active? I can't see any way to change this. I looked at the app on my phone and I don't see anything there.
The fact that it did seem to be working as far as the activity LEDs are concerned, would indicate that this is a one-shot deal. At least I know that it isn't a hardware problem since it did apparently work while initially connected.
I have not raised a ticket at Davis. I might though to see if there is a way to revert to Ethernet if needed.
Greg H.
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You have to configure via Bluetooth for WiFi or LAN, you cannot just plug the cable in if it is configured for WiFi.
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Mark. Is there stats given on LAN connection too from WLL when enabled?
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No LAN stats that I can recall, for WiFi you only get the RSSI, and there is nothing equivalent for LAN.
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You have to configure via Bluetooth for WiFi or LAN, you cannot just plug the cable in if it is configured for WiFi.
I vaguely remember this from the initial setup, now that you mention it.
However, no LEDs are present and it fails the attempt to reconnect to the LAN using the Bluetooth. I did succeed at changing the WiFi to a different AP, though.
Earlier I saw the lights come on, but not again. I even tried a power cycle.
I just sent an email to Davis support about it.
Greg H.
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Did they ever fix the Ethernet port? Mine is broken, no LED indication of life.
WiFi works, so I have been running it all along that way.
Greg H.
Greg, ok silly question on my part but which LED are you referring to?
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Did they ever fix the Ethernet port? Mine is broken, no LED indication of life.
WiFi works, so I have been running it all along that way.
Greg H.
Greg, ok silly question on my part but which LED are you referring to?
I should have clarified this. They are the LEDs built into the Ethernet connector. They are supposed to light up when active and data is flowing.
Greg H.
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Ok, just curious as I've used ethernet since I installed it and don't see any lights at the ethernet cable socket on the unit.
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Ok, just curious as I've used ethernet since I installed it and don't see any lights at the ethernet cable socket on the unit.
That is kind of unusual. I can't think of a single Ethernet connected device that I own that has LEDs on the port connector that doesn't light up.
Greg H.
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Ok, just curious as I've used ethernet since I installed it and don't see any lights at the ethernet cable socket on the unit.
That is kind of unusual. I can't think of a single Ethernet connected device that I own that has LEDs on the port connector that doesn't light up.
Greg H.
Just an interesting followup. We had an extended internet outage today and during the outage a steady yellow LED was lit at the connector on the WLL. After the internet came back, the steady yellow light is on along with a flashing green. I had not adjusted the cable or hookup at all. It had been not lit prior. Go figure.
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UPDATE:
Here is what Davis said. Apparently it is a choice that must be made at initial installation. I don't want to do this "replace" so I will just leave it alone.
As I said previously, we had a power fail that took out the WiFi and it must have reverted to some initial condition.
You may need to do a 'Replace' of the device in order to switch from Wi-Fi to Ethernet. If you 'Replace' the device, you will lose all your historic data recorded up to the point in time of the replacement.
If it's currently working, I wouldn't change anything.
Greg H.
Ok, just curious as I've used ethernet since I installed it and don't see any lights at the ethernet cable socket on the unit.
That is kind of unusual. I can't think of a single Ethernet connected device that I own that has LEDs on the port connector that doesn't light up.
Greg H.
Just an interesting followup. We had an extended internet outage today and during the outage a steady yellow LED was lit at the connector on the WLL. After the internet came back, the steady yellow light is on along with a flashing green. I had not adjusted the cable or hookup at all. It had been not lit prior. Go figure.
We had a power failure the other day, and when it came back up I tried connecting the CAT5 cable again. The lights came on.
But when I power cycled the WLL and it was back to the no LED scenario.
The Bluetooth app makes it seem that you can switch back to Ethernet from WiFi, but it fails when I try to do so. Unfortunately, I didn't think to try switching it when the LEDs were on.
Crickets on my Davis ticket so far...
Greg H.
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I received my WLL on Sep 10.
My firmware version is Jul 30, 2020.
My blue light blinks for only a couple of minutes and then turns OFF.
It always turns of reliably after a couple of minutes and I have no need to cover the light.
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I just got a new vp2 pro with WLL and the app will not connect via BT with my phone. The WLLs light flashes blue, I can see the device in my phones BT list, but the app tries to connect then stops and goes nowhere. Any ideas?
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Is your phone's WiFi on and configured for your home WiFi? The purpose of Bluetooth is just for the initial configuration so that the WLL can receive your WiFi credentials (unless you are using Ethernet). From then on the WLL will solely communicate with the local network and not use Bluetooth.
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Is your phone's WiFi on and configured for your home WiFi? The purpose of Bluetooth is just for the initial configuration so that the WLL can receive your WiFi credentials (unless you are using Ethernet). From then on the WLL will solely communicate with the local network and not use Bluetooth.
The phones wifi was on, but then I also tried it with it off. Still won't get past the app's connection page.
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Make sure that your phone is only using 2.4 GHz WiFi. The WLL does not support 5 GHz WiFi. You may have to disable the 5 GHz band on your WiFi router temporarily.
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Make sure that your phone is only using 2.4 GHz WiFi. The WLL does not support 5 GHz WiFi. You may have to disable the 5 GHz band on your WiFi router temporarily.
Ok, I'll try that, but getting wifi connected comes after the BT connection is made right? I can't even get the BT to communicate/recognize the WLL from the phone.
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The LED on top of the WLL should be flashing. If you wait too long to configure it will go to sleep. You can press the capacitive touchpad on top of the LED to wake up the WLL and the LED should go back to flashing. You then have a few minutes to complete the initial configuration. Be sure that the phone is connected and using your 2.4 GHz band WiFi. Open the WLL mobile app and proceed to configure your device and follow the prompts. Once paired the LED light should go solid.
See image below for location of capacitive touch pad to awake the WLL before pairing.
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The LED on top of the WLL should be flashing. If you wait too long to configure it will go to sleep. You can press the capacitive touchpad on top of the LED to wake up the WLL and the LED should go back to flashing. You then have a few minutes to complete the initial configuration. Be sure that the phone is connected and using your 2.4 GHz band WiFi. Open the WLL mobile app and proceed to configure your device and follow the prompts. Once paired the LED light should go solid.
See image below for location of capacitive touch pad to awake the WLL before pairing.
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I've tried everything including a 3rd phone and no success. Called davis and they were stumped and will replace the wll.
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I don't know for sure if any of the following may have effect or not. But it could be something to test.
- Is your SSID hidden? (I don't recommend the SSID be hidden...it really serves no security purpose)
- Is your SSID really long?
- Does your SSID have any less common characters? (better to stick to aphanumeric and characters and those symbols that are produced with SHIFT-number key)
- Does your WiFi security key have any less common characters?
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Hello. Newbie here.. I too have just taken delivery of myvp2 pro with Wll but it completely refuses to connect to Bluetooth in the "add device" section of weatherlink app for android. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app and tried procedure on another android phone. No good.
I see this is not a UK forum but I hope you fellas can help me out..My phone sees 👀 the device but software won't complete bt connection so set-up cannot proceed. Is there a reset process?
Tia from sunny West Wales
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First check: Is the blue LED on the top of the WLL definitely flashing? If not then touch the pad at the top - this should start the flashing.
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Hi. Yes.
Flashing away.
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OK, well, you could try rebooting the WLL if not done already. Power down completely, including removing a battery (if fitted) and leave off for a minute or two before repowering. Ensure blue LED is flashing and try again.
If still unsuccessful then can you find anyone with an iPhone, which may work better just to make the initial Bluetooth contact? Once the initial set-up is done and connected to your WiFi network then pretty much all subsequent configuration can be done via the cloud at your weatherlink.com account. (I've got a vague recollection that some particular combination of Android phone hardware and Android revision may have been struggling with the necessary Bluetooth connection, but it's not a general problem.)
If still unsuccessful then it could be a faulty unit, though that's very rare. But if necessary this would need to be followed up with your supplier.
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OK, well, you could try rebooting the WLL if not done already. Power down completely, including removing a battery (if fitted) and leave off for a minute or two before repowering. Ensure blue LED is flashing and try again.
If still unsuccessful then can you find anyone with an iPhone, which may work better just to make the initial Bluetooth contact? Once the initial set-up is done and connected to your WiFi network then pretty much all subsequent configuration can be done via the cloud at your weatherlink.com account. (I've got a vague recollection that some particular combination of Android phone hardware and Android revision may have been struggling with the necessary Bluetooth connection, but it's not a general problem.)
If still unsuccessful then it could be a faulty unit, though that's very rare. But if necessary this would need to be followed up with your supplier.
Many thanks for you help
It would appear that the android version of the Weatherlink app is a bit funky.
I borrowed daughters i thing and it worked straight away.
So message to all those buying weatherlink live unit and trying to register it using bluetooth from an android device is.. save yourself some time and find an i thing..
I knew i things were useful for something!
Thankyou again.
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ForegoneOcculsion , the android app they don't care about. I have called, emailed and told them what problems I see compared SCRAPPLE phones. They don't care as far I think. Even my WLL live is weird with LAN lights. Depends on what day of the week they might come on. Very disappointed with the product. I just don't feel like buying Meteobridge Pro and get rid of weatherlink subscription. something has to be better.
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I have the Android Davis WeatherLink Live app last updated Sep 1, 2021, Version 2.2.2.
All is working as it should. Live updates are working as they should.
I'm quite pleased and I really like the Android app on my Pixel 3XL.