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Jorginho:
Thxx for the clarification Mauro. I think it is great you dod that and also that Barani listens to people. Other companbies should take an example I guess...

Jorginho:
Hi Mauro63,

I looked at your station on  Montemarciano, which is easy to spot since it has Meteohelix in its name. I looked at the values and sure enough it are 10 minute values. But what is less nice is that every day I checked the minimum and the maximum are those extrema that WU received at the 10 minute spot. So it seems obvious the real minima and maxima are in fact not sent to WU at all. If so, this is a big downside for those who depend on  WU (Barani does not offer anything else) to get their data online. What use is it when you have this very accurate equipment but only get the 6 values per hour that than will be used to get the extremes? We can be pretty sure that in between the temperature has been several tenths of a degree higher and lower.

It might be that Barani cannot support rapid fire, I don't know exactly how WU works but I bet they determine the extrema based on the data they received. So may be with Wu this cannot be fixed.

I already had contact with Jan and asked him if we could build our own sender/receiver (Xbee or something similar) so we can obtain data in that way. I have  seen this working and pretty easily with Davis Vue/VPro stations and may be it can work with Barani stations too?

mauro63:

--- Quote from: Jorginho on August 30, 2020, 03:21:10 AM ---Hi Mauro63,

I looked at your station on  Montemarciano, which is easy to spot since it has Meteohelix in its name. I looked at the values and sure enough it are 10 minute values. But what is less nice is that every day I checked the minimum and the maximum are those extrema that WU received at the 10 minute spot. So it seems obvious the real minima and maxima are in fact not sent to WU at all. If so, this is a big downside for those who depend on  WU (Barani does not offer anything else) to get their data online. What use is it when you have this very accurate equipment but only get the 6 values per hour that than will be used to get the extremes? We can be pretty sure that in between the temperature has been several tenths of a degree higher and lower.

It might be that Barani cannot support rapid fire, I don't know exactly how WU works but I bet they determine the extrema based on the data they received. So may be with Wu this cannot be fixed.

I already had contact with Jan and asked him if we could build our own sender/receiver (Xbee or something similar) so we can obtain data in that way. I have  seen this working and pretty easily with Davis Vue/VPro stations and may be it can work with Barani stations too?

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Hello Jorginho,

sorry for the delay but I had my grandson's baptism and we had a lot of preparation for the party  ;)

I agree with you,
personally, I do not use Wunderground, due to this problem that, actually, cannot be solved
I can say you that Barani is in the middle to the process to realize a new web interface, that surely will be more attractive and with a lot of new option, with great attention to this point
is of this morning a news that I've received from Barani, regarding this process, news that I paste below

"Dear customer,
We would like to inform you that we will be updating the allMETEO cloud platform to our new inhouse designed server database this week. We have taken every measure to make sure that all data is backed up redundantly and safeguarded and all new data that will arrive during the update process is received by multiple servers to make sure that you will not notice anything. Nevertheless please keep an eye on your allMETEO (MeteoHelix, MeteoWind, MeteoRain) account, and please report any unusual activity, should you notice any.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation and patience as this first step the allMETEO update process will ensure that in the near future we can bring you new services and solutions as part of the allMETEO weather portal like the new wireless MeteoRain IoT Compact.

Sincerely yours,
Jan Barani and the BARANI DESIGN Technologies team"

Mauro

Jorginho:
Hi Mauro63,

I think you forgot that you actually do upload data to wunderground. Or is this not your station? https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IMONTE151
I thought it would be too coincidental that a station near you (I think this is near you?) has the exact same weatherstation. I guess you once setup up but nevr looked back may be.

I think it isn't just me who is interested in how the current interface of Barani works. It would be appreciated if you could find the time and show some printscreens may be?

Also very interesting is if Barani will get us much better support for existing third party weatherdata sites and/or is this a wunderground/wow look alike with only Barani station on it? In the latter case it of course helps but again it is restricting and not so flexible I think.

It seems I do not need to convince you basically, but to show you how restrictive a 10 minute intervall is an example of last night. The lowest 10 minute value on WU on my station was 9,8 C. But as it accepts rapidfire all other minima are stored as well...And that minimum was 9,5 C. So that is 0,3 C difference.

I appreciate that you already spend a lot of time answering all those questions, so sorry to ask even more! Thanks in advance!

mauro63:

--- Quote from: Jorginho on September 01, 2020, 11:13:10 AM ---Hi Mauro63,

I think you forgot that you actually do upload data to wunderground. Or is this not your station? https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IMONTE151
I thought it would be too coincidental that a station near you (I think this is near you?) has the exact same weatherstation. I guess you once setup up but nevr looked back may be.

I think it isn't just me who is interested in how the current interface of Barani works. It would be appreciated if you could find the time and show some printscreens may be?

Also very interesting is if Barani will get us much better support for existing third party weatherdata sites and/or is this a wunderground/wow look alike with only Barani station on it? In the latter case it of course helps but again it is restricting and not so flexible I think.

It seems I do not need to convince you basically, but to show you how restrictive a 10 minute intervall is an example of last night. The lowest 10 minute value on WU on my station was 9,8 C. But as it accepts rapidfire all other minima are stored as well...And that minimum was 9,5 C. So that is 0,3 C difference.

I appreciate that you already spend a lot of time answering all those questions, so sorry to ask even more! Thanks in advance!

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Hello Jorginho,
no, no it's mine Meteohelix, simply I do not use WUnderground to check data, that's all ;)
Usually, I use the allmeteo portal data, where I can find all the data, the transmission is every 10 minutes but the sampling time is 1 second for Meteowind and, if I remember well, 5 seconds or less for temperature and humidity, the allmeteo portal contains the minimum, maximum and average data for every parameter of all the samplings

I can export all data in a csv format and after this step I can make graphs, analysis and every needs in a spreadsheet.

If you want to improve the knowledge about meteo allportal, you can sign, even if you haven't a Meteohelix weather station or other Barani's equipment, you will have low functions but can be useful, but I'm glad to add here some screenshots, hoping this could be useful

about the last part, do not worry, it's a pleasure for me  ;)

Mauro
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