Topic: Fall 2016

[ValentineWeather]

GFS forecast for snow next 2 days. I'm looking at an 1-2" is all here.

[Scalphunter]

Well at 15 below now and  hour of daylight yet sunset around 3 these days. Be under 5 hours of daylight starting in December.  Once sun drops behind the horizon  temps will really start to drop.  Plugged the old ford in to  keep engine block warm so make easier on bearing  when starting.

John

[WheatonRon]

GFS forecast for snow next 2 days. I'm looking at an 1-2" is all here.

It is too early for snow! Call somebody to complain. I am still trying to fix a drainage issue from last year. A couple underground gutter extension drains froze last year and when melting on the roof occurred in March, the frozen gutter extensions wouldn't let the water come down the gutter downspouts, rather it flowed into my house!

[Scalphunter]

Just hit our coldest temp so far this winter. at sunset it was -20 and  we are dropping in temp at 4 deg./hour according to WD software.

 If just  going  on the Dew point and  drop rate  I can hit down around 29 below tonight.

John

[Jáchym]

-2 here

[ocala]

Just hit our coldest temp so far this winter. at sunset it was -20 and  we are dropping in temp at 4 deg./hour according to WD software.

 If just  going  on the Dew point and  drop rate  I can hit down around 29 below tonight.

John

29 below?

[Scalphunter]

29 below zero  the same temperature your freezer is at.

John

[WheatonRon]

-2 here

Celsius or Fahrenheit? I believe your country uses Celsius, if so not that cold!

[Jáchym]

Yes, Celsius

Btw.... all countries use C - except yours (and a very few small ones)

[CW2274]

Yes, Celsius

Btw.... all countries use C - except yours (and a very few small ones)

True, but our scale has better cardinal precision.

[Jáchym]

Our makes more sense

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100

[WheatonRon]

Our makes more sense

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100

On paper that makes sense, however, that is only at sea level. Much of the State of Colorado, for example, is a mile high (in feet) and boiling point at that elevation is 200F or less.

[CW2274]

Our makes more sense

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100

Everything metric makes more sense.

[WheatonRon]

Our makes more sense

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100

Everything metric makes more sense.

Disagree. It is what a person gets used to, and I hate the metric way of measuring. That said, if I was raised on metric, I would probably like it and hate the US way!

[CW2274]

Our makes more sense

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100

Everything metric makes more sense.

Disagree. It is what a person gets used to, and I hate the metric way of measuring.

Well, Ron, just cause it's what you're "used to" doesn't mean it necessarily makes more overall sense. No?

[WheatonRon]

Our makes more sense

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100

Everything metric makes more sense.

Disagree. It is what a person gets used to, and I hate the metric way of measuring.

Well, Ron, just cause it's what you're "used to" doesn't mean it necessarily makes more overall sense. No?

The U S will never change, rightly or wrongly, so I will accept the US way, and conclude it makes more sense, at least for Americans!

[PaulMy]

That said, if I was raised on metric, I would probably like it and hate the US way!

I was born and raised until age 10 in metric (remember well the little cups we had in school, from very small to 1 litre, each 10 times larger than the other, and how easy it was to remember).  Then to the imperial system in Canada and learning an inch being the King's thumb and a yard his reaching-out arm...  until metrication in the 1970s when gas went from about $1 to 25c   and we could drive 100 per/h


It took me about 20 years to quit converting in my mind from metric to imperial, and now totally quite comfortable with metric, except understanding L/100 vs mpg


So actually you can get used to it, and like it


Enjoy,
Paul

[WheatonRon]

That said, if I was raised on metric, I would probably like it and hate the US way!

I was born and raised until age 10 in metric (remember well the little cups we had in school, from very small to 1 litre, each 10 times larger than the other, and how easy it was to remember).  Then to the imperial system in Canada and learning an inch being the King's thumb and a yard his reaching-out arm...  until metrication in the 1970s when gas went from about $1 to 25c   and we could drive 100 per/h


It took me about 20 years to quit converting in my mind from metric to imperial, and now totally quite comfortable with metric, except understanding L/100 vs mpg


So actually you can get used to it, and like it


Enjoy,
Paul

Ain't going to happen in the US in my life time (I am retired). Probably unfortunate, but there is no impetus in the US to change. Until an impetus results, no change will result.

[Scalphunter]

we would got metric here  but the cost of retooling everything would be to great and set back  the industry.  lot of ships I sail on had Metric and British Whitworth  then throw in SAE and you have an mess.

[Scalphunter]

As of 0100 we hit 30 Below here.  getting close to that spot where C and F is the same.  Maybe this week if no down slope winds  come into play.

John

[Jáchym]

I totally understand that you are used to it.

But I have to disagree with you and say that metric indeed does make more sense. Simply because it is based on multiples. Not just the 0 and 100 on the Celsius scale, but also other measurements.

Just a few examples:

100cm = 1m
1m = 1000km
1000g = 1kg
1000kg = 1 ton

vs

1ft = 12in
1mi = 5280 in
16 ounces = 1 pound

etc etc....

[ValentineWeather]

As far as F vs C , I'll take F. The US resisted the larger size of each degree Celsius so to eliminate fractions and increase the granularity of the scale thought the F scale was better. I agree with this theory and glad at least for temperature we stayed on the Fahrenheit scale.

[Jáchym]

Yes, I sort of agree with that. You could also say that in F, the 100 I think corresponds to human body temperature and the point you made also makes sense.

however with the other measurements (length, weight etc.) metric just is much easier to calculate with, there is no doubt about that. If for example I asked you what is 5.4 pounds in ounces or I asked you what is 350g in kg, surely one would be much easier for you to calculate in your head.

[ValentineWeather]

Believe that was the thinking 100F body temperature actually 98.6F and the other end 0F was the coldest the Germany Physicist Fahrenheit experienced in his town.

The metric system otherwise is better IMO.

[Jáchym]

Yes I know it is not exact, but thats how he defined it... I guess he probably had a fever when he was doing it