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Question: How's WeatherLink 5.9.1 working for you?  Please select which one of the below best applies:
Fine, using Virtual VP, Serial Data Logger, Davis VP   - 0 (0%)
Fine, using WeatherLink, Serial Data Logger, Davis VP - 0 (0%)
Fine, using Virtual VP, USB Data Logger, Davis VP - 0 (0%)
Fine, using WeatherLink, USB Data Logger, Davis VP - 4 (10.3%)
Problems with download and/or connection lost errors, using Virtual VP, Serial Data Logger,  Davis VP - 6 (15.4%)
Problems with download and/or connection lost errors, using WeatherLink, Serial Data Logger, Davis VP - 2 (5.1%)
Problems with download and/or connection lost errors, using Virtual VP, USB Data Logger, Davis VP - 2 (5.1%)
Problems with download and/or connection lost errors, using WeatherLink, USB Data Logger, Davis VP - 2 (5.1%)
Fine, using Virtual VP, Serial Data Logger, Davis Vue - 0 (0%)
Fine, using WeatherLink, Serial Data Logger, Davis Vue - 0 (0%)
Fine, using Virtual VP, USB Data Logger, Davis Vue - 0 (0%)
Fine, using WeatherLink, USB Datta Logger, Davis Vue - 0 (0%)
Problems with download and/or connection lost errors, using Virtual VP, Serial Data Logger, Davis Vue - 0 (0%)
Problems with download and/or connection lost errors, using WeatherLink, Serial Data Logger, Davis Vue - 0 (0%)
Problems with download and/or connection lost errors, using Virtual VP, USB Data Logger, Davis Vue - 0 (0%)
Problems with download and/or connection lost errors, using WeatherLink, USB Data Logger, Davis Vue - 1 (2.6%)
I have not tried v5.9.1, my old WeatherLink version is working fine and I'm not touching it! - 17 (43.6%)
Other?  Tell us about it. - 5 (12.8%)
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« on: February 21, 2010, 12:11:11 AM »

Since some of us are unable to reliably run any version of WeatherLink newer then v5.8.3, I was hoping maybe we could narrow down which type of setup if any was more prone to the issues.  It will also be interesting to see if there is any difference between the feedback of those using the Vue compared to the VP.


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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 12:26:53 AM »

This brings up an interesting situation. I had WL installed on this laptop I am sending this from now when it was running the station while I was getting my current machine ready and far as I know it worked fine.BUT I didn't realize until now but I never installed WL on the new machine and Weather Display runs my VUE just fine!  I did copy the files across the network from here to the new machine but not WL. Either WD can run it fine without anything other than the data logger or something was transferred I didn't catch.

I hadn't realized this until today.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 01:14:12 AM »

since you have a serial data logger (great you have that info in your forum sig), then no WL drivers needed for WD to access the data logger
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 02:31:31 AM »

I am running v5.9.0 with my Vantage Vue, USB connection with no problems. So, I think I shall leave well alone for a while.

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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 10:32:25 AM »

I am running V5.9.0 with a usb connection, VP2 Plus with FARS, and WeatherlinkIP with no problems. As the old saying goes -

"If it aint broke - don't fix it"  Very Happy

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 12:14:02 PM »

Running WeatherLink v5.9.2 through VWS 14.01p22b once a day through Serial Port. No Problems noted.
My VP2's now have FW 1.90
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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 01:04:23 PM »

It would be difficult to construct the poll, to cover all combinations/permutations/situations.

I'm running WeatherLink 5.8.3 with a serial logger, 5 minute interval, VP2 wired, and absolutely no dropped packets or data.

I would not anticipate any problems running 5.9.1 - however, I do not see any advertised improvement in functionality that would be worth the small trouble of upgrading.  The stated improvements seem to be only for situations other than mine (and/or concern Vue or WeatherLinkIP). 

So, unless Davis says that I would see some improvement, I see no reason to change.  On the other hand, if there is some reason to change, I would. 

"Running the latest" is not that reason.

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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 02:28:29 PM »

Using WL version 5.4 (5/21/2003) with a serial data logger on a VP2+.  I use VWS V14.01p07.  VWS ftp uploads some data every 5 minutes and everything every 15 minutes.
I've never used Virtual VP nor apps to upload data, VWS uploads just fine.
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Al Washington, Lexington, Ga., Davis VP2+ WLIP 5.9.2 w/soil temp, VP(original) serial.  Acu-Rite 1015/1010/639/1055 5-n-1/3-n-1, bridge beta test group,
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CoCoRaHS=GA-OG-1 manual & electronic ET gauges. CWOP=CW2074. XP with serial port, VWS v14.01p0, laptop with Win7 and USB ports.
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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2010, 04:23:47 PM »

I have problems with it.

IF I put it on my weatherlink IP upstairs, it doesn't work with 64 bit vista and Davis will say so... 32 bit is no problem. So I am back to 5.8.3

It wouldn't recognize the *.wlk files or the config files . but the previous versions do.

So.. I put it on my XP machine where the rest of the software is running.  The problem there, it wouldn't allow me to upload to my web site, screwed with the CWOP and so forth.   I shut it down and am using 5.8.3.   Now that machine has a serial logger as well as to an envoy.   

I really see no need to upgrade to the fancier version, in that there is no fancy here.  I am also put out that Davis hasn't upgraded to allowing 64 bit systems to use their software.  After all there are a lot of those computers out there, we use a lot of memory and storage for the data, but they won't change.  I am guessing their programmer is farmed out and that person just doesn't have the skill or software to make that happen. 

That is why I like weatherdisplay, it works as does , I think, VWS and others.  Just Davis is behind in software,  A heck of a great piece of scientific equipment, though.. I wish they would come out with more gadgets...
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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2010, 11:48:16 PM »

I just edited the poll in attempt to make the selections a little less verbose.  If anyone is unsure what something means just ask.    Smile

It's a bit of a trick to gather enough information in a single poll on something like this for it to be useful yet keep it short enough that people are not confused to point of not bothering to participate.   Think

Thanks to all that have participated so far.    toast
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2010, 05:58:05 PM »

So far no major problems with Weatherlink 5.9.1 and WeatherlinkIP (firmware 1.07) and Vantage Pro 2 (firmware 1.90)
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2010, 11:39:48 PM »

the reported problems are not with the IP data logger though
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2010, 09:20:42 PM »

 d'oh!
I have found out thru playing with 5.9.1, usb, and vantage vue that is you do NOT display the vantage bulletin, the system works almost flawlessly. If the vantage bulletin is displayed, then you get the USB dropout warning and have to disconnect, reconnect. It seems to have something to do with the display while the system is uploading at the same time...
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2010, 09:38:25 PM »

d'oh!
I have found out thru playing with 5.9.1, usb, and vantage vue that is you do NOT display the vantage bulletin, the system works almost flawlessly. If the vantage bulletin is displayed, then you get the USB dropout warning and have to disconnect, reconnect. It seems to have something to do with the display while the system is uploading at the same time...
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Have you reported your findings to Davis? 
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« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2010, 10:44:19 PM »

Davis has been contacted but there has been no response from them. Seems like they do not answer their email very readily. Their support system is not very responsive.. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2010, 11:20:43 PM »

Well, thanks for trying.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2010, 01:23:54 AM »

Davis has been contacted but there has been no response from them. Seems like they do not answer their email very readily. Their support system is not very responsive.. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
That's what I ran into for years.  I finally gave up on Davis all together.  They kept making changes to WeatherLink but never addressed issues and feature requests that I and many others wanted.  When I did get a response it was something along the line of "we have a very small staff working on WeatherLink and can't address every request."  But some of them would have been nice!  Confused
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2010, 06:36:24 AM »

d'oh!
I have found out thru playing with 5.9.1, usb, and vantage vue that is you do NOT display the vantage bulletin, the system works almost flawlessly. If the vantage bulletin is displayed, then you get the USB dropout warning and have to disconnect, reconnect. It seems to have something to do with the display while the system is uploading at the same time...
 Brick wall
Same here, I think updating the silab drivers and putting ferrite rings on the USB cable has eliminated the problem though.
I'm no impressed when Davis cannot make the thing work out of the box.
The issue is thoroughly reported on their own forum pages.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2010, 11:31:03 AM »


That's what I ran into for years.  I finally gave up on Davis all together.  They kept making changes to WeatherLink but never addressed issues and feature requests that I and many others wanted.  When I did get a response it was something along the line of "we have a very small staff working on WeatherLink and can't address every request."  But some of them would have been nice!  Confused

What did you go with, that has better support/responsiveness? 
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2010, 11:38:25 AM »


The issue is thoroughly reported on their own forum pages.


Please provide a link to those pages, so we can go see those reports.  Thanks.
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2010, 09:45:20 AM »

This is what I was thinking of, may have been confusing with accuweather
http://n6skk.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=279
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2010, 11:21:41 AM »

 Dancing Dancing Dancing

                         FIXED !!!!!!!!
                       
Yup, unbelievable, Thanx to suggestions from Rob in support @ RainmanWeather.com
 and a bit of luck, I have found a combination that has the " Vue" working as well as the Wizard.
> Here's what happened, I took his suggestion and fired up 5.9.1 again,
> Then I converted the port from USB to Serial. Same bad results.... So I
> thought maybe the wizard might be interfering with the Vue's operation, I
> shut down the wizard, No HELP !!!! Then I thought about this a bit and
> looked at the setup of the wizard... Com port 1, 2400 baud, 1 minute,
> Hmmmm, still 2400 baud from the days of dial up... I changed the baud rate
> of the wizard to 19200, and it started throwing errors also, ah ha, so I
> changed it back to 2400 and all was well, Ha It couldn't be this easy,
> Soooo I changed the baud rate of the Vue to 2400 and sure enough it
> started to work, but couldn't seem to get the job done so I kept
> increasing until it stumbled. Bingo..... 14400 baud rate and it works very
> well on 5.9.0... Changed to 5.9.1 nope, still disconnects, back to
> 5.9.0... All is well.... Can't explain it, don't understand it, but it
> works....   So, There you have it,
> Changed to version 5.9.1
> Changed port from usb to virtual serial
> changed baud rate to 14400
> changed back to 5.9.0
> All is well with the world for about 15 hours now, in 15 hours it failed
> to upload about 8 times on 15 minute intervals according to the logs..
> That works for me!!!
> Thank you so much for all your help, and ideas 
> hopefully this fix works for others also...
> 5.9.1 just doesn't work if the vantage screen is opened, if it is closed
> it works well also...

Larry   Dancing Dancing Dancing
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2010, 01:47:32 PM »

Dancing Dancing Dancing

                         FIXED !!!!!!!!
                       
Yup, unbelievable, Thanx to suggestions from Rob in support @ RainmanWeather.com
 and a bit of luck, I have found a combination that has the " Vue" working as well as the Wizard.



Well, now you have me totally confused.  I don't think you ever mentioned a wizard.  What wizard are you using?  Is this a software thing, or a hardware thing?
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2010, 03:47:40 PM »

 d'oh!  Sorry About that,
            I thought it would have been obvious, The wizard is my first Davis Weather station, It is a weather Wizard III. I run it with weatherlink 5.7.1 on the same computer. Until recently it has run reliably, but this fall the rain bucket quit and I had to put in a magnet, the anemometer stops working once in a while, and the system is better then 15 years old, so it was time to upgrade it. hence, my new Vantage Vue with windows 5.9.0. I still run the old one tho as a backup, It works great, most of the time.  Didn't mean to confuse you!!! Wink
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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2010, 04:40:26 PM »

OK, so (if I have this sorted out correctly):

You're running two copies of WeatherLink software on your computer.

One of the copies is version 5.9.0 and runs your Vue logger at 14400 baud on some virtual com port (presumably not port 1).

The other copy is version 5.9.1 and runs your Weather Wizard III logger at 2400 baud on physical com port 1.

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I presume (tell me if I'm wrong) that you have 5.9.0 and 5.9.1 installed in completely separate folders on your computer.

How do you change the Vue back and forth between 5.9.0 and 5.9.1, as you indicated in your "fixed" posting?
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