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« on: January 20, 2010, 11:30:46 AM »

Yep.  I'm new to the whole personal weather station hobby.  So far,  I've decided on the Davis wireless Vantage Pro. 

I'm trying very hard to walk through all the options and tools available for connectivity, analysis and site updates.  I have a community web site that I want to post as close to live data as possible.  I also have Windows Home Server (WHS) with a 6 MB full time connection to the internet that runs 24/7.  So the issue of a PC being on all the time is not a concern.  My questions are;

a) Pros & Cons of the WeatherLink IP or USB version?  The cost isn't a issue.  I'm looking for stability and speed with frequent/live updates
b) What other software or tools will be required to make/produce a professional looking and up to date weather site?


Thanks in advance.  Mike  (San Diego, CA)

 

 
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2010, 02:22:23 PM »

I'm trying very hard to walk through all the options and tools available for connectivity, analysis and site updates.  I have a community web site that I want to post as close to live data as possible.  I also have Windows Home Server (WHS) with a 6 MB full time connection to the internet that runs 24/7.  So the issue of a PC being on all the time is not a concern.  My questions are;

a) Pros & Cons of the WeatherLink IP or USB version?  The cost isn't a issue.  I'm looking for stability and speed with frequent/live updates
b) What other software or tools will be required to make/produce a professional looking and up to date weather site?


As you have noticed, it's not an easy decision - and highly dependent on individual desires.

First: if you desire to have automatic uploads to http://www.weatherlink.com/ and automatically have a site that looks like (for example) http://www.weatherlink.com/user/rjhhlc/   with no customizations, and no work at all, then the WeatherLinkIP is the only Davis interface that will do that.  I don't detect that is what you are interested in. 

[Note: using the WeatherLinkIP doesn't keep you from also doing your own website - but it does slightly complicate things, and since it's a fairly new device, it seems to be less stable than the other interfaces]

The other TWO interfaces are USB and Serial.  I'm personally using the serial interface.  A few unlucky people experience problems with the USB interface, but it's certainly more "modern" than the serial interface.  [Note: I actually use the serial interface with a serial-to-USB adapter].

Other than the hardware, those two interfaces are equivalent.  You run some software on your computer to communicate with the serial/USB data logger that's plugged into the console (you knew that already).

You buy the interface with the Davis WeatherLink software application, so I suggest you start with that.  You can make a reasonably nice website fairly easily with the Davis-supplied templates, and then modify them to suit your preferences.  See mine at http://www.thecoys.net/weather/Current_Vantage_Pro_Plus.htm    [Note: there's a live "ticker" that Davis supplies, that I don't use.  Here's an example site:  http://www.sandrandon.net/SanDonWeb//Weather_files/Current_Vantage_Pro.htm  - look at the top of the page]

Congratulations on being a Windows Home Server user (as am I) - I'm sure you know that installing applications on WHS isn't exactly "supported" (nor is it unsupported) - but it should do just fine for you.

Anyhow - I recommend starting with using the WeatherLink software.  Because it's a no-extra-cost solution that may be what you want.  There are other packages out there that are attractive, too.  I'm sure other folks will show up to point them out.  You should look carefully at them, and make an early decision because sometimes it's not easy to convert "historical" data to a different software application.

Hope that helps. 
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2010, 02:42:01 PM »

personally I recommend the serial data logger (and then a good quality USB to serial adaptor)
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2010, 10:21:52 AM »

I agree with GBW.  I also find that WLIP's inability to send wind gust and rainfall rate to Weatherunderground via rapidfire updates to be a deal breaker.  I have the Davis Vantage Pro 2 plus a solar radiation sensor and connect to the internet same as GBW.  Using an Acer netbook on 24/7.  It has been flawless over a year now.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2010, 09:54:12 PM »

Dalecoy can you elaborate on this...
[Note: using the WeatherLinkIP doesn't keep you from also doing your own website - but it does slightly complicate things, and since it's a fairly new device, it seems to be less stable than the other interfaces]

If I buy the WLIP software would I be able to access the data from my VP2 to use Weather Exchange, Virtual Weather Station, Weatherview32, etc software to create my own page?  Or am I limited to the Weatherlink.com and the Weatherlink templates.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2010, 10:40:54 PM »

Dalecoy can you elaborate on this...
[Note: using the WeatherLinkIP doesn't keep you from also doing your own website - but it does slightly complicate things, and since it's a fairly new device, it seems to be less stable than the other interfaces]

OK, let me take that last point first - the WeatherLinkIP just hasn't had as long to be "refined" as the other two interfaces.  There have been a few problems.  Not that you will have difficulties, of course.

Re: "complicating things". For instance:

Quoting Davis: "Yes, WeatherLinkIP is a fully functional data logger that can be accessed over your network with WeatherLink 5.8 with all the same features as a serial or USB data logger. However, when the real-time bulletin is running in WeatherLink 5.8, one minute current conditions updates are still sent to weatherlink.com, but archive data will not be uploaded until the bulletin is closed."

Also, it seems to not work well if your internet connection is via satellite, or Verizon FIOS.  Probably not a problem for you.

There are a couple of other things that probably won't bother you.  And some people are disappointed with it's feed to WeatherUnderground (see post above).

If I buy the WLIP software would I be able to access the data from my VP2 to use Weather Exchange, Virtual Weather Station, Weatherview32, etc software to create my own page?  Or am I limited to the Weatherlink.com and the Weatherlink templates.

Quoting Davis:  
"Will WeatherLinkIP work with other weather software programs?
No, at this time only WeatherLink 5.8 can communicate with WeatherLinkIP."

YMMV - perhaps folks with real experience can confirm or deny that.

Try looking here for the FAQ:  http://www.weatherlink.com/faq.php
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 04:26:48 AM »

yes it works with other software
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 06:11:45 AM »

yes it works with other software

Yes, it works with _some_ other software (assuming that you still want an automatic 'current conditions' upload to weatherlink.com). How reliable/robust operation might be will depend on the type of other software and the configuration in which you're using it (eg are you using VVP to mediate the data stream - this will typically be a way of getting _most_ other software to take a data input from a 6555 logger, provided the 6555-VVP interaction is robust on your system).
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 04:31:34 PM »

personally I recommend the serial data logger (and then a good quality USB to serial adaptor)
Ditto.
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