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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2019, 11:13:18 AM »
Gee why would anybody be justifying buying or not buying a weather station just because WU has gone to crap? Move on, WU is not the only option and obviously not the best option either.

OK, name a free service that has rapid fire.   My camera needs replacing:NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.  My Davis pro2 is leaking, has corrosion, fan is shot.  Whole unit need replacing:THAT'S
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.   The best I can get is 1 minute updates with a pay service.  I think I will point on of my security cameras at my Davis console and call it quits.

Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D

Seriously, Unless you are after wind data rapid fire is kinda useless.
Again, WU nor any other service should be a deciding factor for anybody to get a weather station. This goes with most of everything on the Internet... They get bought out or the project dies and you have a brick. Get a weather system that is open to anything and everything. Good luck!

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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2019, 12:58:59 PM »



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D

Seriously, Unless you are after wind data rapid fire is kinda useless.
Again, WU nor any other service should be a deciding factor for anybody to get a weather station. This goes with most of everything on the Internet... They get bought out or the project dies and you have a brick. Get a weather system that is open to anything and everything. Good luck!


Yes I am after wind data.  Average winds are 25 MPH with gusts much higher. When wind reaches a certain speed, we have to move cars inside to prevent sand blast damage.  We are in a very windy area, over 500 wind generator within 20 mile radius of us.  I suppose if instructions for using a template were not as complicated as the space station operators manual I would love to do that.   
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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2019, 01:29:28 PM »



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D

Seriously, Unless you are after wind data rapid fire is kinda useless.
Again, WU nor any other service should be a deciding factor for anybody to get a weather station. This goes with most of everything on the Internet... They get bought out or the project dies and you have a brick. Get a weather system that is open to anything and everything. Good luck!
I suppose if instructions for using a template were not as complicated as the space station operators manual I would love to do that.   

The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/

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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2019, 01:36:52 PM »
Gee why would anybody be justifying buying or not buying a weather station just because WU has gone to crap? Move on, WU is not the only option and obviously not the best option either.

OK, name a free service that has rapid fire.   My camera needs replacing:NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.  My Davis pro2 is leaking, has corrosion, fan is shot.  Whole unit need replacing:THAT'S
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.   The best I can get is 1 minute updates with a pay service.  I think I will point one of my security cameras at my Davis console and call it quits.

My Meteobridge updates every 15 seconds.  I use the webspace from my ISP, but it will work with any free webspace.
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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2019, 04:03:05 PM »



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D




The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/

weather34 looks like it has about everything you need.  how does it work?  download template and then what.
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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2019, 04:10:02 PM »



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D




The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/

weather34 looks like it has about everything you need.  how does it work?  download template and then what.

What application you use for data logging?
Weather34 has several official and unofficial templates that work with different data logging applications.

In no specific order WD34 works with:

Weather Display
Meteobridge
Meteohub
Cumulus
Weatherlink
WeeWX

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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2019, 04:10:23 PM »



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D




The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/

weather34 looks like it has about everything you need.  how does it work?  download template and then what.

What application you use for data logging?
Weather34 has several official and unofficial templates that work with different data logging applications.

In no specific order WD34 works with:

Weather Display
Meteobridge
Meteohub
Cumulus
Weatherlink
WeeWX

and some others...

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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2019, 04:16:22 PM »
Looks like antstrafer is using a Meteobridge based on CWOP and forum signature.

Version 3.9 though! Just FYI in case of any missing updates causing issues.
https://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/F5142
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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2019, 04:17:36 PM »
Looks like antstrafer is using a Meteobridge based on CWOP and forum signature.

https://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/F5142


Wooha!  Even easier. Thanks galfert!

@antstrafer, PM me and I can help you get going!
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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2019, 04:27:36 PM »
Many so called free sites with what ever attracts or has attracted users will all eventually in the not too distant future (already fairly obvious) be going down or following each other down the subscription path or simply close up shop as the higher end so called fast updates require a lot more infrastructure and cost to provide than most users require or are prepared to pay for. This is not only a WU issue.

Users are going to have to be prepared to pay for the level of service they want or unable to provide their own needs if they expect a third party to provide it, this is simply the way of the world. This expectation re previous provider models is fast coming to an end so justifying any PWS purchase based on what WU are or is doing is really not a decision maker. There are lots of other options and typically much better options as noted above.

The more one expects the more one will typically pay for it if requiring a third party server providor.   
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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2019, 05:29:24 PM »
WU came around some 15 years after my first weather station. I've always done it for my own interest. Being able to share was just icing on the cake.
My first station did not have internet ability at all. I did it because I want to know what it is like right where I am before I go outside . Among other interests.

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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2019, 08:49:56 PM »
I keep it simple. I have a AW-1401-IP, no weather cam. It reports to WU and Ambient weather. Data is good. Location is good and forecast page is correct. I have occasional issues but if I wait for a while everything comes together. The wireless bridge plugs directly into the router so I do not need to keep the computer on. The station is accessible with my Android phone. Others are reporting issues such as incorrect station location or can't access by smart phone or can't connect to their router. I guess that I am lucky.
https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KCAGRASS150
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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2019, 09:56:21 PM »
I keep it simple. I have a AW-1401-IP, no weather cam. It reports to WU and Ambient weather. Data is good. Location is goon and forecast page is correct. I have occasional issues but if I wait for a while everything comes together. The wireless bridge plugs directly into the router so I do not need to keep the computer on. The station is accessible with my Android phone. Others are reporting issues such as incorrect station location or can't access by smart phone or can't connect to their router. I guess that I am lucky.
https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KCAGRASS150

I dont think the issues that "others" have are due to complexity.... just like I dont think that yours is "working" due to simplicity ;) I think that been "lucky" is more or less "correct" ;)
At the end of the day... The less you care for your data the less you will know. Simple sometimes is the poison.... just like complexity can be the worst of both worlds... lol :)

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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2019, 10:15:49 PM »
This doesn't only apply to PWS but anything related to data, the data has the value, what produces that data is basically a black box and something that can be easily replaced

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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2019, 10:21:38 PM »
This doesn't only apply to PWS but anything related to data, the data has the value, what produces that data is basically a black box and something that can be easily replaced

This is true 100%

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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2019, 03:27:37 AM »



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D




The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/

weather34 looks like it has about everything you need.  how does it work?  download template and then what.

What application you use for data logging?
Weather34 has several official and unofficial templates that work with different data logging applications.

In no specific order WD34 works with:

Weather Display
Meteobridge
Meteohub
Cumulus
Weatherlink
WeeWX

and some others...

Good morning I'll try and clear up some confusion reference to the template you listed above .These are version published by Wim and are not weather34 based design or code.the difference is really apparent in the code in those versions, they are written by Wim and does not follow or have any similarity in the code structure.The appearance is similar but when you look closer you will see some differences in particular graphic quality presentation. It is hoped in the near future Wim will rename the template and remove the references to weather34 and name it something different to clearly differentiate between the two. Increased volume of email support appeared recently and due to these versions being labelled with 34 I ended up going round in circles chasing urls and non native english translated emails only to discover these share no similarity in code structure.

Weather34 based designs support meteobridge, cumulus, weewx only

more info here https://weather34.com/homeweatherstation/

There is no weather34 design for weather display, wifilogger, meteohub, weatherlink etc .

In advance I sincerely apologise for any confusion caused the original intention was to have experienced individuals with specific knowledge of each hardware or software to offer support specific to each software, hardware. Often the support needs to be at software, hardware level to offer a good chance to resolve many issues or add enhancements, new features .

Further information about those can be found here https://weather34.com/homeweatherstation/

you will notice a Beta but that is primarily going to be for meteobridge NANOSD/Pro/Davis hardware and it does not use or have any requirement for Mysql ,the meteobridge NANOSD does all the work and when setup it is self sufficient without any regular maintenance.* Possibility in the near or far future this revised version will be included in the NANOSD but it is unconfirmed at present but Boris is toying with the idea to replace current version built into NANOSD..
https://weather34.com/homeweatherstation/beta-meteobridge.html

The official meteobridge version maintained by William aka Lightmaster and that is fully compatible with popular meteobridge hub,NANO(SD),Pro hardware. https://github.com/lightmaster/Meteobridge-Weather34-Template
I encourage you to participate with him as he has a good knowledge of meteobridge and other stuff particularly like how he is testing some new lightning hardware and has implemented that https://baxleyweather.com/pws/index.php

so I hope it clears up some confusion and Im sure in the future it will become apparent and easy to distinguish .

as for weather underground I dont know why any one bothers , i get the part its free , its convenient but big but its not reliable and has not been for many years, I stopped sending data in November 2017 and focused on creating a reliable solution albeit it comes at a cost but that saying "you get what you pay for" and when its free you soon find the limitations .

this forum itself offers a wide array of templates, information, knowledge on all aspects of displaying your data to suit your personal needs be it basic or a vast array of data. Think its time to stop the repetitive week in week out complaints of wunderground services and focus on something that you can really participate in..

edit:typo as usual :-)

brian...
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"The internet a place where people who you never met or have known make it their mission to disagree with everything you say or do , call it socially inept noise"..

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Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2019, 12:18:53 PM »
Brian,

Thanks for the clarification. Thats why I stated "unofficial" I guess that was not enough. Thanks again.

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