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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #225 on: June 10, 2019, 01:31:46 PM »
I agree with you Mapantz, having the max figures reset at midnight would be a much more logical way of representing the data than the current rolling 24hour window.
I'll drop Lucy a e-mail and see what she thinks of the suggestion.

I think the issue with the max gust data etc is how the console and Gw-1000 decide to sample the datasets. The reality is that they don't seem to take and compare all data values for these measurements even if they are displayed.

I already talked to Lucy via Twitter on the issue of maximums and minimums being the last 24 hours and not the day (starting midnight). At first she did not seem very receptive to this question. Now, with more people making this request, maybe we'll have more attention. Another point, my maxims almost never match between tabs and graphs. Lucy told me, and I do agree, the tabs update every minute and the graphs every 5 minutes, but in the WU works the same way and the maxims, both the chart and the tabs are the same and match my console. Another suggestion would be to have a frame, where when you select a period (1 month for example) in this frame would show the maximum and minimum understood in this period.

Sorry about my english, Im from Brasil.

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #226 on: June 10, 2019, 02:49:33 PM »
Just to update, Lucy has taken onboard the comments and the engineering team will consider giving us a settings option to switch between a midnight reset and the rolling 24 hours.
It might not come to pass but at least they are considering it.
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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #227 on: June 13, 2019, 08:23:27 AM »
Just to update, Lucy has taken onboard the comments and the engineering team will consider giving us a settings option to switch between a midnight reset and the rolling 24 hours.
It might not come to pass but at least they are considering it.

They add a button on the graphs to show daily stats, very nice. However the tabs are still showing the maxs and mins from the last 24h.

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #228 on: June 13, 2019, 09:19:59 AM »
yes, I noticed that as well.
I have already asked if there any plans to roll out the option to the live data section.
I will let you all know if I get an answer of course!
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Ecowitt WH0291 Soil Moisture Sensor
Ecowitt WH041 PM2.5 AQM Sensor

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #229 on: June 14, 2019, 05:13:19 AM »
If anyone wants to know what your own ecowitt's site would look like with their sensors mine looks like this. https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?type=1&name=NicomaPark1
I also am using ecowitts sensors at my Meteotemplate site using there GW1000b bridge and a Meteobridge at www.nicomaparkwx.com if you care to see.

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #230 on: June 14, 2019, 07:32:13 AM »
While running 1.4.7 I've observed the following behavior which basically amounts to uploading not every 1 minutes but more like every 2 minutes.
Ecowitt.net supposedly updates every 1 minutes. That is up to your console (GW1000) to actually send data every 1 minutes...but in practice it doesn't really happen exactly like that.
What actually happens is that the GW1000 uploads to Ecowitt.net at the top of the minute (:00 seconds). It takes a few seconds for this to register and become available to see on Ecowitt.net. That takes about 9 to 13 seconds it seems. Then the GW1000 starts counting 60 seconds. At the end of those 60 seconds it is now because of the original upload delay a bit after the :00 mark of the next minute. So it might be like :09 seconds after the next minute for example. The GW1000 then at this time trips an okay to upload trigger. But the GW1000 only uploads at exactly the :00 seconds on the clock time and it is now :09 so it waits for the next :00 second mark. Then at the next :00 mark it uploads again. But because it takes a few seconds to upload and refresh the website you'll actually end up seeing 2 minutes since last upload on Ecowitt.net for a few seconds. In summary because of how the GW1000 software is programmed it really only updates every 2 minutes.

I get the same update times with ver 1.4.8 I didn't see a difference from 1.4.7  Once in awhile it will be 2-3 min but only sometimes.

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #231 on: June 14, 2019, 09:11:44 AM »
Andyk1,
Nice work with Meteobridge and your website.

Your shared Ecowitt.net link is not working. Correct link should be this:
https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?type=2&name=NicomaPark1
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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #232 on: June 15, 2019, 09:49:27 AM »
Andyk1,
Nice work with Meteobridge and your website.

Your shared Ecowitt.net link is not working. Correct link should be this:
https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?type=2&name=NicomaPark1

Strangely when I tried the link I posted it works fine. when I tried your (index?type=2) it came up in Chinese which I could not change to English.

Looking into it further it does in fact not work using windows internet explorer but works fine in Firefox and Chrome. Looks like I.E. is not supporting a lot of sites but Microsoft edge does work which I do not use.

Thanks for the heads up.

Andy

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #233 on: June 15, 2019, 10:01:53 AM »
Andyk1,
Nice work with Meteobridge and your website.

Your shared Ecowitt.net link is not working. Correct link should be this:
https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?type=2&name=NicomaPark1

Strangely when I tried the link I posted it works fine. when I tried your (index?type=2) it came up in Chinese which I could not change to English.

Looking into it further it does in fact not work using windows internet explorer but works fine in Firefox and Chrome. Looks like I.E. is not supporting a lot of sites but Microsoft edge does work which I do not use.

Thanks for the heads up.

Andy

I'm using Chrome. When I find my station on the map it also shows the link as type=1. I don't think that the type is the language though. You can still pull up type=2 and change the language from the menu back to English. I think maybe type indicates yours or someone else's. Not really sure.

https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?type=2&name=GW1000%20-%20KFLWINTE111%20FW3708%20-%20Winter%20Springs,%20FL

If I use your type=1 link it just shows me my station...even though the rest of the URL says that name=NicomaPark1.

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #234 on: June 16, 2019, 10:25:35 PM »
FYI...both of those ecowitt links redirect to a login page.

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« Reply #235 on: June 17, 2019, 03:37:53 AM »
Ecowitt.net requires a that you register for a free account. You don't need to own anything to get your free account. It works much like Davis' Weatherlink.com.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2019, 03:40:55 AM by galfert »
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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #236 on: June 18, 2019, 04:52:44 PM »
Good day Gents,

I'm new here but I read WXForum for more than 10 years now. This thread about Ecowitt is very interesting. I'm about to buy their WH2910C station (my old La Crosse died few month ago) but I would like to know the size of the display before. I know that their 2320 display is fairly small. Can you guys help me?

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« Reply #237 on: June 18, 2019, 06:53:52 PM »
Good day Gents,

I'm new here but I read WXForum for more than 10 years now. This thread about Ecowitt is very interesting. I'm about to buy their WH2910C station (my old La Crosse died few month ago) but I would like to know the size of the display before. I know that their 2320 display is fairly small. Can you guys help me?

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I much prefer the WS-2000 (HP2551) though.
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=36379.0
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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #238 on: June 19, 2019, 09:40:10 AM »
Thanks a lot galfert for this usefull information...  Reading your comparison thread, it seems that I cannot add an outdoor Temp/RH sensor on the 2910, is that right? I have no option to add one because where i'll install the station, Wind, PCPN will be well exposed but Temp will be bias for sure (too high no grass).

Forgot to mention, if you add an extra sensor (Temp/RH) on another channel is it possible to display it as reference Temp? (i.e. can the channel of outdoor temp can be changed?)

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« Reply #239 on: June 20, 2019, 05:36:55 AM »
Thanks a lot galfert for this usefull information...  Reading your comparison thread, it seems that I cannot add an outdoor Temp/RH sensor on the 2910, is that right?

That is correct. You can't add a sensor to the 2910.

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Forgot to mention, if you add an extra sensor (Temp/RH) on another channel is it possible to display it as reference Temp? (i.e. can the channel of outdoor temp can be changed?)

Stratus13

I believe you can change the default temp/hum sensor with the WS-2000/HP2551 and the GW1000. Ask Lucy to be sure.
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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #240 on: June 20, 2019, 09:34:05 AM »
Thanks, I've asked Lucy and she confirmed. Funny fact, Lucy is also answering question on Fine Offset website... so it's the same company (EcoWitt/Fine Offset?

Fine Offset told me that their HP2550 model is 200$ US + shipping, which is a good deal I think considering the fact that Ambient Wx are not shipping in Canada nor Amazon.com and Amazon.ca don't have this product in stock... It looks like HP2550, WS-2000 and WH2551 are all the same thing am I right?

Merci,
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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #241 on: June 20, 2019, 09:55:10 AM »
The topic of Lucy and Fine Offset versus Ecowitt has been discussed many times. There is apparently no official linkage between the two companies as claimed by Lucy, however Lucy does seem to respond for Fine Offset and Ecowitt. Ecowitt are the direct to market seller for individuals. Fine Offset manufactures the kit and only sells in bulk to resellers such as Ambient. The two companies clearly work hand in hand.

The HP2550/1 and WS2000 are effectively the same product, its just branding. Though if you buy Ambient it seems that they have locked the firmware to only see sensors sold by Ambient. The ecowitt kit is totally open and can see all.

As you can see I am a user of the HP2551 from Ecowitt and very happy.
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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #242 on: June 20, 2019, 10:39:20 AM »
Thanks Mandrake,

It seems that Fine Offset is willing to sell me one station (no bulk) so I will go with them (or Ecowitt).  I prefer open firmware than locked.

Merci!

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« Reply #243 on: June 20, 2019, 11:14:45 AM »
I started the same road as you back last year talking with Lucy via Fine Offset and this eventually led to my purchasing an HP2551 with lots of sensors via Ecowitt and Lucy!
Its fairly easy and Lucy is excellent at keeping you informed.
Shipping from Shenzen/Hong Kong is also quick.
Good luck
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Ecowitt HP2550A (IGUILDFO67)
Ecowitt GW-1000 (IGUILDFO68)
Ecowitt WH0291 Soil Moisture Sensor
Ecowitt WH041 PM2.5 AQM Sensor

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #244 on: June 20, 2019, 12:37:04 PM »
But there is another difference between Ambient and Ecowitt. They each have their own cloud service. Though the software is clearly cut from the same software source there are some differences. Pros and cons of each. For now only Ambient has Google Assistant and Amazon Alexa. Only Ecowitt has a map and more sensors like soil. There are other differences yet still that are minor.

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #245 on: June 24, 2019, 09:35:47 AM »
Great thread, very informative!  My 5n1 is dying a slow agonizing death and I'm looking to replace it.  I'm not thrilled with acurite, so looking for something different. 

Can the WS2000/HP2550 (I think I have that right) have sensors added?  I'd like to add a soil temp sensor, an additional light sensor and a lightning detector if they come out with one.  Not 100% necessary to have those in the main display, as long as they are viewable in an app.  Thanks.

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« Reply #246 on: June 24, 2019, 09:52:10 AM »
So if you go HP2551 and Ecowitt then you can have the individual primary external sensors (anemometer, Hygro/temp, Solar, wind direction and Rain gauge) or the traditional all in one sensor. On top of that you can add soil Moisture (not temp yet) and a Air Quality sensor that measures PM2.5. You can also add extra internal thermos/hygro sensors for internal rooms (up to 8)

Ecowitt/FO are working on a lightning detector but no timescales and soil temp sensor has been discussed but nothing firm.
Ecowitt are much more flexible and if you open dialogue with Lucy you can usually customise whatever you want order wise.

If you prefer Ambient then you are locked into their ecosystem and what they sell and in those configurations. So for instance you can only get the WS-2000 with the all in one sensor array and the additional sensors it sells.

There are pro's and cons as discussed on the forum.
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Ecowitt HP2550A (IGUILDFO67)
Ecowitt GW-1000 (IGUILDFO68)
Ecowitt WH0291 Soil Moisture Sensor
Ecowitt WH041 PM2.5 AQM Sensor

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #247 on: June 24, 2019, 10:19:14 AM »
Thank you

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #248 on: June 24, 2019, 03:42:32 PM »
But there is another difference between Ambient and Ecowitt. They each have their own cloud service. Though the software is clearly cut from the same software source there are some differences. Pros and cons of each. For now only Ambient has Google Assistant and Amazon Alexa. Only Ecowitt has a map and more sensors like soil. There are other differences yet still that are minor.

I prefer Ecowitt because it's open source, more accessible and friendly, though, I believe Ambient's cloud service at the moment is superior, except for the map in favor of Ecowitt.

Last but not least, I like Ambient has phone app too.

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Re: New Stuff - Ecowitt Has the Newest Fine Offset Hardware
« Reply #249 on: June 24, 2019, 03:49:27 PM »
It appears they no longer sell the ws68, does anyone know a source for this?