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WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« on: December 19, 2018, 09:36:50 PM »
Received an email from Davis.  If you are registered on WeatherLink.com you can now download the full version on the WeatherLink PC software for free.

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From the newsletter:

◦Create your free WeatherLink account on WeatherLink.com.
◦Using the username and password you just set up, log in. (You will have the option to upgrade your WeatherLink.com account to Pro or Pro+, but this is not necessary. Click Get Started under the Basic column.)
◦The Davis Instruments WeatherLink Bulletin Dashboard will appear. On the right side of the screen, under your name, click the account icon (it looks like a person).
◦Click Computer Software and download.
◦Once downloaded, set up your WeatherLink Computer Software by adding your station (File > New Station).  Use the Walkthrough Setup feature, or refer to the WeatherLink Getting Started Guide to set up your station in your software.

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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2018, 11:08:00 PM »
Essentially WeatherLink has always been free, came packaged with every logger made and if one knew where to look was always freely downloadable.

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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2018, 11:45:23 PM »
Essentially WeatherLink has always been free, came packaged with every logger made and if one knew where to look was always freely downloadable.
It ain't free if you had to pay for it, which is HOW it was obtained, as part of the whole SW & HW (buffer) package.

Glad to see it's now "gratis"...but it also asks the question: "Why?"
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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2018, 11:52:57 PM »
Free WL 6.05 is worth exactly what it costs.  ;)  (I cannot ever imagine paying$25 for it as was the case  in the day)

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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 03:42:30 AM »
It ain't free if you had to pay for it, which is HOW it was obtained, as part of the whole SW & HW (buffer) package.

What you paid for was always considered to be the logger hardware with the software then included gratis. The only way you had to pay for software was if you wanted a new CD, where there was some small cost associated with manufacturing/stocking/selling a different SKU.

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Glad to see it's now "gratis"...but it also asks the question: "Why?"

Well, three fairly obvious reasons:

1. (The main one) Macs no longer seem to have built-in CD drives at all and PCs are increasingly going down the same road. So supplying software on a CD isn't much use. Guess they could have switched to supply on eg a USB stick, but probably not cost-effective.

2. Development of local WL has largely ceased (other than compatibility tweaks it seems).

3. (I'd like to think) Pressure from dealers dealing with support calls as a result of [1] and also from users who have lost their CD or who, for all sorts of reasons, are having trouble installing WL on a new PC. Making WL a free download goes a long way to solving many of these issues and simply removes a pointless support overhead.
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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 11:30:10 AM »
Glad to see it's now "gratis"...but it also asks the question: "Why?"

Not disagreeing with what johnd wrote - and not complaining - but:

1.  It's not free.  You supplied your name, address, email address, station location, etc. to be able to get it.  That information is valuable to Davis, and potentially to other companies. $$$

2.  The supplied documentation is the "Weatherlink Software GETTING STARTED Guide", which doesn't describe nearly all of the capabilities of the Weatherlink software (at least version 6.0.3, .4, and presumably the "updater" version of 6.0.5).  [Of course, the complete 6.0.4 guide is (currently) available on the Davisnet site].

3.  The capabilities of "free" version 6.0.6, etc. could well change - as well as the restrictions.  [For instance - 3rd party logger compatibility].

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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2018, 12:18:00 PM »
Well, it's barely worth the time to quibble, but:


1.  It's not free.  You supplied your name, address, email address, station location, etc. to be able to get it.  That information is valuable to Davis, and potentially to other companies. $$$

Certainly as things stand at present, you can just register a dummy account at wl.com (ie your preferred username and pw, and IIRC you don't even need a working email address, just a credible dummy. No other details needed. So I'd personally class that as free. Of course things might change in the future.

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2.  The supplied documentation is the "Weatherlink Software GETTING STARTED Guide", which doesn't describe nearly all of the capabilities of the Weatherlink software (at least version 6.0.3, .4, and presumably the "updater" version of 6.0.5).  [Of course, the complete 6.0.4 guide is (currently) available on the Davisnet site].

Well the online Help is included with the download and is typically not updated with minor updates. I really don't see the availability of the documentation changing - Davis have bigger fish to fry and I reckon WL will gradually fade into the background anyway. BICBW of course.

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3.  The capabilities of "free" version 6.0.6, etc. could well change - as well as the restrictions.  [For instance - 3rd party logger compatibility].

Yes, it's possible, but again I really don't think it's likely. As above, the current WL version and indeed the present loggers will presumably gradually become obsolete as newer products with eg new APIs are introduced.
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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 12:40:55 PM »
Certainly, some of the accounts may be "fake".  And full .pdf documentation for 6.0.4 is available.

So, technically, what changed between 6.0.4 and 6.0.5?

(I don't consider that a quibble)

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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 01:18:03 PM »
Certainly, some of the accounts may be "fake".  And full .pdf documentation for 6.0.4 is available.

That's something I didn't know (short of using an external CHM to PDF converter). Do you have a link please?

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So, technically, what changed between 6.0.4 and 6.0.5?

Sorry, I don't know - haven't seen a change-log yet. My speculation was just an update to some internal libraries, but that's just a guess.
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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 02:07:28 PM »
....  And full .pdf documentation for 6.0.4 is available.

That's something I didn't know (short of using an external CHM to PDF converter). Do you have a link please?

Sorry - I stated that incorrectly.  The "Getting Started" guide for 6.0.4 is available online.  I haven't compared it with the one for 6.0.5


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So, technically, what changed between 6.0.4 and 6.0.5?

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Sorry, I don't know - haven't seen a change-log yet. My speculation was just an update to some internal libraries, but that's just a guess.

If I was being paranoid, I would worry about (for instance) the new (6.0.5 or later) software uploading a lot of additional information, available on the computer where it is installed, to the Weatherlink.com website for use by Davis and others to whom Davis sells it.  Think "all email addresses" or perhaps "physical location of the computer" or perhaps "passwords" or "other software installed on the computer". 

Or even adding "secret" software to the computer.

But it is free - all you have to do is "sign" the agreement.....

Please understand - I'm not saying that Davis is doing anything wrong or covert - just stating things that folks might wonder about.

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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 02:13:58 PM »
The size of the "full install" for WeatherLink 6.0.4 is 12.472 Kilobytes.

The size of the "full install" for WeatherLink 6.0.5 is   8.352 Kilobytes.

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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2018, 02:14:56 PM »

If I was being paranoid, I would worry about (for instance) the new (6.0.5 or later) software uploading a lot of additional information, available on the computer where it is installed, to the Weatherlink.com website for use by Davis and others to whom Davis sells it.  Think "all email addresses" or perhaps "physical location of the computer" or perhaps "passwords" or "other software installed on the computer". 

Or even adding "secret" software to the computer.

Yes, I guess that's a possibility. But then isn't the same true of every single piece of software you might use? So: computers are great......as long as you never install and use any software on them. :shock:
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Re: WeatherLink 6.05 Now Free
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2018, 12:41:16 AM »
...and, THAT, folks is why I keep all of our "personal" info on computers that are NOT on-line...and, CD's are always kept as backups.
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