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Offline wase4711

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WS2000 Opinions?
« on: September 30, 2018, 05:55:04 PM »
Looks like there is a brand new station, model WS2000...might not have anything new aside from a better display console.
https://smile.amazon.com/Ambient-Weather-WS-2000-Station-Monitoring/dp/B07GRBY9NP/ref=smi_www_rco2_go_smi_g1405964225?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0&ie=UTF8

Anyone bought one of these yet, and have any comments on it?

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2018, 09:41:14 PM »
Yes the WS-2000 is the same outdoor unit as the WS-2902A. Just the indoor display is different. The WS-2000 display though requires separate indoor temp/hum/pressure sensor.
https://ambientweather.net/help/what-are-the-differences-between-the-ws-2000-and-ws-2902a/

You can upgrade from one to the other by just adding a display. You can run multiple displays and have one of each or multiple of each display with the same single outdoor unit.

You can also start with a WS-1550-IP that has no display and later add a display.  You choices of display are the WS-2902A display or WS-2000 display or even WS-1900 display (same as WS-2902A display without WiFi which makes as an excellent 2nd or 3rd display at a lower price.)  You can also add the ObserverIP device to the WS-2902A or the to the WS-2000.

Mix and match and upgrade as you wish is the name of the game with Ambient Weather. You can even upgrade if you had an older WS-1400 by just replacing the outdoor device, since that just uses indoor ObserverIP (you'll need to update firmware though). Older WS-100x and WS-1200 displays won't work with the new outdoor sensor array. (this paragraph does not fully apply to you but it may serve to others that read this).

See these links for more info on WS-2000:
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=35178.0

https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=34962.0

Bottom line...if you really want to know more about the WS-2000 then just search this forum for WS-2902 or WS-2902A and you'll learn a great deal. For what matters (the outdoor unit) they are the same thing.

« Last Edit: September 30, 2018, 09:56:25 PM by galfert »
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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2018, 03:49:23 PM »
Gotta love that 2 star review by Brian.  It's really tough to tighten a U-Bolt to a pole  =D>

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2018, 04:44:10 PM »
I struggled at first to find who Brian was and where his comments were posted. Then I found it on the Amazon reviews:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3B9TRYCOLAZX7/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B07GRBY9NP

That guy deserves an award for finally taking on a home DIY project. Struggling with U-bolts.  Too funny.  Maybe he didn't get to play with these in preschool.
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I liked the reply from Ed of Ambient Weather.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2018, 04:48:07 PM by galfert »
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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2018, 05:31:35 PM »
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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2018, 07:14:29 PM »
I just bought the WS-2902A in June and the one thing I felt it was missing was the ability to support multiple sensors.

Now, here is the WS2000 with that exact functionality.  I love my WS-2902A, but I am tempted to upgrade and just have 2 weather stations on my house instead. 

Someone talk me out of it!

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2018, 07:37:21 PM »
You can buy the ObServer IP $36.99 to get multiple sensors. I have the 2902A with the ObServer IP and 3 extra sensors. All is working fine. Firmware was already at 4.4.7 for the extra sensors.

I just bought the WS-2902A in June and the one thing I felt it was missing was the ability to support multiple sensors.

Now, here is the WS2000 with that exact functionality.  I love my WS-2902A, but I am tempted to upgrade and just have 2 weather stations on my house instead. 

Someone talk me out of it!

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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2018, 07:46:48 PM »
I read that review, and "Brian" does have a point.  Dealing with all the brackets and such is a pain, especially as your dexterity and balance degrade with age and disease.

2 years ago I wouldn't have had a problem with the brackets.  Now it's a very different story for me.

"Brian" seems to have been talking about an Acurite 5n1 Pro.  It does come with a mounting adapter you scan screw into a wooden rail or post, but it's not something you need to use.  It's not hard to put the 5n1 on a 3/4" pole and tighten down two screws.  My only complaint is that the screws are very small, and not fun to find if you drop them in the grass.

Atlas is a different story.  It has one integrated knob that tightens on the pole with no tools.  I easily mounted an Atlas on a pole while I was still having problems standing and limited use of my right arm and hand.  You can't beat that.

Some of the complaints I've heard about the WS-2902A were the lack of additional sensors like Acurite has.  I guess the WS2000 is a response to that, but Acurite already goes beyond temp/humidity sensors, and more types are coming.

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2018, 07:56:24 PM »
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and more types are coming.

Like radiation perhaps? That's what I'd like to see.

I live in California, so I always wonder how much of that Fukushima stuff has made it over here.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2018, 08:24:11 PM »
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and more types are coming.

Like radiation perhaps? That's what I'd like to see.

I live in California, so I always wonder how much of that Fukushima stuff has made it over here.

I know some have requested that (like me), but I've no idea if they're working on one.

Indoor air quality and noise level sensors were mentioned at CES18, though.

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2018, 08:25:51 PM »
Indoor air quality would definitely be a most welcomed addition..

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2018, 08:33:07 AM »
Ordered one of these yesterday, will leave feedback here as I try it out. And likely lean on some of y'all for support since this is my first weather station.

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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2018, 05:28:52 PM »
That would be great, thank you.

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2018, 07:34:56 AM »
I have the ws-2000 and believe me it's 10 times better than the crappy Acurite systems I've owned for 4 years. I love the 2000 and wrote a short review of it on Amazon.

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2018, 09:51:54 AM »
any issues with it so far, or is it trouble free?

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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2018, 09:57:51 AM »
I have the ws-2000 and believe me it's 10 times better than the crappy Acurite systems I've owned for 4 years. I love the 2000 and wrote a short review of it on Amazon.

How far is your sensor to console and console to WiFi router?  Have you had any dropped/intermittent connections?

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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2018, 10:05:00 PM »
My outdoor sensor is around 80 feet away from the console through glass sliding doors. I keep the console on my computer desk near the router. The separate temp/humidity/barometer sensor for the indoor reading is in the central part of my home around 25 feet away from the console. Never lost any data so far.

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2018, 08:17:08 PM »
well, got one of these today; returned my Acurite Atlas; too many problems and I didnt want to continue to trouble shoot for the mfg..
So far, so good, everything connected instantly, super simple to set up, connected to WU/PWS/Weathercloud/Ambient super fast and easy..having wifi on the console is a very nice touch

Any questions, just ask!

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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2018, 08:59:40 PM »
Received mine last night. Other obligations today so havenít had time to connect it yet, and still deciding on location for sensor array. Hopefully get everything connected tomorrow. I did assemble the sensor array last night. Simple and was impressed with build quality. I found it odd that the set screw for the weather vane seats on the round part of the shaft rather than the flat side. Iíve built a LOT of machinery with set screws and never seen that. Is there some particular reason for this?

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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2018, 10:30:32 PM »
Did you inspect the set screw to see if maybe it had a dimple on the end? If it did then it might fit better with the round part of the shaft.
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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2018, 10:54:15 PM »
well, got one of these today; returned my Acurite Atlas; too many problems and I didnt want to continue to trouble shoot for the mfg..
So far, so good, everything connected instantly, super simple to set up, connected to WU/PWS/Weathercloud/Ambient super fast and easy..having wifi on the console is a very nice touch

Any questions, just ask!

What's your sensor to console and console to WiFi router distance?

I want to dump Acurite but my old 5N1 and Access hub finally work OK with reliable connections.  (Atlas reception was much worse).

I just don't want to switch to Ambient if connection reliability rears it's ugly head.

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2018, 12:07:45 AM »
my sensor is 60 feet from the console; my wifi router is between the sensor and the console..no metal walls, stucco in Arizona;
Wifi signal on the console has been between 4 and 5 bars since I connected.
Use 2.4ghz connection
On Initial setup, the console recognized everything is less than 2 minutes

The connections to Ambient Weather/WU/PWS/weathercloud  took about 5 minutes total...seamless and no errors

So far, so good!


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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2018, 09:50:06 AM »
Did you inspect the set screw to see if maybe it had a dimple on the end? If it did then it might fit better with the round part of the shift.

No, set screw comes installed in weather vane and I just backed out enough to install on the shaft. I canít imagine itís dimpled though, it would catch on the shaft before you got it snug. Itís snug now, hopefully if it stays that way.

Wase4711, seems like I read somewhere that you have to use 2.4 ghz connection? Thatís what I was planning to use anyway, but might help others.

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2018, 11:11:28 AM »
yes, this is another internet device that must be used on a 2.4ghz network..

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Re: WS2000 Opinions?
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2018, 08:30:12 PM »
I really wish the WS-2000 supported Ambientís TX-3102 soil moisture/thermometer, that alone would make me buy the WS-2000, should that display ever be sold separately.

Hopefully Ambient adds such sensors designed for the 2000/2902 in the future, and maybe a lightning detector (if possible) to compete with the Atlas.
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