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Re: WS-2902 display
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2018, 07:22:42 PM »
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Can someone try and connect the USB port to computer running Easy Weather software (or some other weather software) and see if it gets live data. Or you cold try connecting USB to a MeteoBridge (WeatherBridge) and see if it recognizes and reads live data.
I could not get my pc to recognize the display when I plugged it into a USB port.  Is there a USB driver I need?  I did not see anything in the Easy Weather download.

After connecting the console via USB to PC, you should see the station's memory as mass storage with directories. I understand that this memory is not shared?

No driver is needed. After the USB connection, the console should report automatically on the monitor as mass storage next to the C, D directory, etc.
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Re: WS-2902 display
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2018, 09:48:50 PM »
I'm considering purchasing the WS-2902 because I'm tired of my constantly failing Acurite 5/1. Can you purchase an additional display?
To answer the original question about adding additional 2902 displays....
 I would suggest the WS-1900-C display.  It is the 2902 display without the WiFi.  It's only $36 

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Re: WS-2902 display
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2018, 11:09:09 PM »
I have the 1900 as a second display with my 2000.

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Re: WS-2902 display
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2018, 08:00:55 AM »
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Can someone try and connect the USB port to computer running Easy Weather software (or some other weather software) and see if it gets live data. Or you cold try connecting USB to a MeteoBridge (WeatherBridge) and see if it recognizes and reads live data.
I could not get my pc to recognize the display when I plugged it into a USB port.  Is there a USB driver I need?  I did not see anything in the Easy Weather download.

After connecting the console via USB to PC, you should see the station's memory as mass storage with directories. I understand that this memory is not shared?

No driver is needed. After the USB connection, the console should report automatically on the monitor as mass storage next to the C, D directory, etc.

Unfortunately its not showing up as a USB device or a drive so it looks like the USB port is not available for this use.  Maybe a future firmware release will add this.
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Re: WS-2902 display
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2018, 10:12:32 PM »
tony,

This thread has evolved and turned into a great source of information regarding the WS-2000 and the differences between the WS-2902A display. Since you are the OP can you rename the subject of this thread to something like "WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences." I had a hard time finding it today to use as a reference. This will also help others considering the WS-2000.

Thanks!


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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2018, 07:59:14 AM »
Galfert...there you go.

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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2018, 08:42:52 PM »
kind of a silly question..
The extra sensor that they give you, is that meant to be used inside your house, outside somewhere, or anywhere you want?
Is that extra sensor "necessary" for all the readings to show up properly on the console, or, is it just an "added location" that you can use if you want to?

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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2018, 09:44:05 PM »
kind of a silly question..
The extra sensor that they give you, is that meant to be used inside your house, outside somewhere, or anywhere you want?
Is that extra sensor "necessary" for all the readings to show up properly on the console, or, is it just an "added location" that you can use if you want to?

thanks!

You can put it anywhere within range.  However it shows on the display as Indoor Temp and Humidity.  It also has the barometric pressure sensor in it, so yea it's needed.  I initially thought is was a dumb idea, but having the sensor external from the display has several benefits.  You don't get any stray heat from the display causing any inaccurate reading. Also you don't have to worry about where the display sits causing temp issues.  I have my display near a furnace outlet and that would through off the readings.

I have two additional sensors that I put in my fridges.  The nice thing is you can edit what the display names them.  The only issue is the web/app do not allow you to edit them.  They show up there as Sensor 1 and Sensor 2 and the alerts that come for them have Sensor 1 or 2 in the email.  It's the only thing so far I have found that slightly irritates me.  Other than that it is a great system.


I have the sensors setup to scroll;
Indoor readings
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2018, 09:52:38 PM »
looks like the beer might be getting a little warm in that basement fridge!

So, there are no sensors "built in" to the display console; if you want your indoor temp/humidity info, then thats where you get it from? outdoor temp/humidity etc comes from the sensor mounted on the pole outside?

And, the stations Barometer reading comes from the indoor sensor too?

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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2018, 10:06:31 PM »
looks like the beer might be getting a little warm in that basement fridge!

So, there are no sensors "built in" to the display console; if you want your indoor temp/humidity info, then thats where you get it from? outdoor temp/humidity etc comes from the sensor mounted on the pole outside?

And, the stations Barometer reading comes from the indoor sensor too?

thanks

Yes to all four.

Here a pix of the "indoor" sensor that comes with the WS-2000
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2018, 10:55:30 PM »
thanks again, that answers all my questions about the 2000!

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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2018, 08:18:47 PM »
I'm getting annoyed with my WS-2902A display...

- Tired of the poor viewing angles.
- Even more tired of constantly having to press buttons because I can only see either wind speed or wind gust at a given moment. Same thing with rain amount and rain rate.
- forecast clouds and sun is useless and takes up too much real estate.

I really like how the WS-2000 display console packs all the information without having to press buttons. I can't wait for the WS-2000 display console to be available separately.  Wonder how much longer that will be.
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2018, 12:20:43 AM »
the ws-2000 display is very nice; I wish I could make the fonts a bit larger, for my old eyes to see better, but, its still very legible

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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2018, 09:01:12 AM »
Same issue with me.  Looks like it's time for trifocals.
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2018, 10:40:55 AM »
i have trifocals, and still want the fonts larger!
I'm gonna call them shortly and ask if there is a way to do that

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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2018, 10:47:53 AM »
WS-2000 sounds like it's the choice of geezers ha ha. I can read display pretty well with the progressive lenses in my glasses, but if I have contacts in I have to put on cheaters. Let us know what you find out!

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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2018, 09:25:45 PM »
So, the ONLY difference between the 2902 and 2000 is the display?  Is that display really worth another $70? 

I'm shopping for a possible secondary station to use around my property and the Acurite Atlas seems to be continuing their tradition of poor quality so now I'm looking at the Ambient stuff.
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2018, 04:50:52 AM »
So, the ONLY difference between the 2902 and 2000 is the display?  Is that display really worth another $70? 

I'm shopping for a possible secondary station to use around my property and the Acurite Atlas seems to be continuing their tradition of poor quality so now I'm looking at the Ambient stuff.


If you don't need the display, you may look into the ws-1550-ip:

https://www.amazon.com/Ambient-Weather-WS-1550-IP-Station-Monitoring/dp/B07GSFM9JM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1540111575&sr=8-1&keywords=ws-1550+ambient

It's like the ws-2000 (you can add temperature sensors), but costs much less because it comes without display.
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2018, 08:37:17 AM »
I think the WS-2000 display console is worth it. I can't wait till they sell it separately so that I can upgrade my WS-2902A. I've become a bit frustrated with the WS-2902A display console because it doesn't show as much information at one glance. It has the same information but you have to press buttons to see it all. For example, I can only see rain daily if I leave it on that setting. If I want to see rain weekly or monthly etc I have to press a button. Same is true for other information. The WS-2902A also is not viewable unless it is at the perfect angle, where the WS-2000 can be seen from different angles.

Those are the two biggest shortfalls of the WS-2902A display console in day to day use. But there are more that are minor. The WS-2000 is easier to set up because you do it directly and does not require a smartphone with the AW app. The WS-2902A does not support extra sensors. About the only thing the WS-2902A has over the WS-2000 is that with the WS-2000 you don't get to see the RF signal strength of the outdoor sensor array.
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2018, 07:34:16 AM »
I think the WS-2000 display console is worth it. I can't wait till they sell it separately so that I can upgrade my WS-2902A. I've become a bit frustrated with the WS-2902A display console because it doesn't show as much information at one glance. It has the same information but you have to press buttons to see it all. For example, I can only see rain daily if I leave it on that setting. If I want to see rain weekly or monthly etc I have to press a button. Same is true for other information. The WS-2902A also is not viewable unless it is at the perfect angle, where the WS-2000 can be seen from different angles.

Those are the two biggest shortfalls of the WS-2902A display console in day to day use. But there are more that are minor. The WS-2000 is easier to set up because you do it directly and does not require a smartphone with the AW app. The WS-2902A does not support extra sensors. About the only thing the WS-2902A has over the WS-2000 is that with the WS-2000 you don't get to see the RF signal strength of the outdoor sensor array.

One item of note; The WS-2000 display has an external sensor for the indoor T/H.  That sensor also has the barometer in it.  So if you get the display make sure you get the sensor too.
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #45 on: October 22, 2018, 08:04:59 AM »
I think the WS-2000 display console is worth it. I can't wait till they sell it separately so that I can upgrade my WS-2902A. I've become a bit frustrated with the WS-2902A display console because it doesn't show as much information at one glance. It has the same information but you have to press buttons to see it all. For example, I can only see rain daily if I leave it on that setting. If I want to see rain weekly or monthly etc I have to press a button. Same is true for other information. The WS-2902A also is not viewable unless it is at the perfect angle, where the WS-2000 can be seen from different angles.

Those are the two biggest shortfalls of the WS-2902A display console in day to day use. But there are more that are minor. The WS-2000 is easier to set up because you do it directly and does not require a smartphone with the AW app. The WS-2902A does not support extra sensors. About the only thing the WS-2902A has over the WS-2000 is that with the WS-2000 you don't get to see the RF signal strength of the outdoor sensor array.

One item of note; The WS-2000 display has an external sensor for the indoor T/H.  That sensor also has the barometer in it.  So if you get the display make sure you get the sensor too.

Thank you, I knew that but it is good to put this complete information out there for those other people reading this. The required model number for the external indoor barometer/temperature/humidity sensor is WH32B.
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #46 on: October 22, 2018, 12:05:43 PM »
Good info.  Thanks.
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #47 on: October 22, 2018, 12:47:59 PM »
Apparently additional indoor sensors and a soil sensor are in the works for the 2000, per a reviewer on Amazon that spoke with Ambient.
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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2018, 04:53:11 AM »
For anyone hoping to upgrade their WS-2902A to a WS-2000 display console I have some bad news. I just grabbed the following information from the Amazon Question & Answer section of the WS-2000 product listing.

Question: When will the just ws-2000 display console be available separately? i'd like to upgrade a ws-2902a and also have extra displays.
Answer: March 2019. Sorry for the delay.

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Re: WS-2902A display - WS-2000 display differences
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2018, 08:24:40 AM »
From the pics I've seem, I like the larger font of the 2902a clock but the angle issue would get irritating.

I ordered just the array Monday, but then saw I could have gotten the pack with the array and non wifi console for $5 less than separate... Doh!  Any way not worth a return and reorder.

I was planning to order additional sensors, but can the additional sensors only be added if u have the wifi 2902a /2000 consoles? I will be using just and old updated to newest firmware ObserverIP.  Can I even add sensors without a wifi console? How is sensor adding and naming actually handled?
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