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advforecast2.php issue
« on: August 15, 2018, 11:04:32 AM »
I noticed this on my page this morning.  http://www.daybreakimagery.com/weather/forecast.php Did something change or is it temporary?

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2018, 11:36:07 AM »
I noticed this on my page this morning.  http://www.daybreakimagery.com/weather/forecast.php Did something change or is it temporary?

Thanks,

Richard
That message
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The detailed point forecast weather data is not currently available.
The zone forecast data for ILZ070 (Marion) will be displayed
until the point forecast data is again available.
If this persists, contact the NWS St. Louis/St. Charles, MO WFO
at 636-441-8467 or email at w-lsx.webmaster@noaa.gov
to have them update the point forecast for /gridpoints/LSX/139,79 on api.weather.gov
happens if there is a point forecast issue for your specific area.  Give it a few hours, and if it persists, call the WFO and alert them to the issue.
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2018, 11:43:52 AM »
Ok thanks Ken!

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2018, 12:13:09 PM »
Same issue here and in HI, CA, and NB. Haven't seen that message in a long time. Maybe not localized?
« Last Edit: August 15, 2018, 12:18:55 PM by jgillett »
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2018, 12:20:00 PM »
I think it is a national issue, I'm having it to.  Usually they clear up in a few hours, unless Ken has to make a change to the code.

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2018, 12:21:35 PM »
It's only an issue with the JSON/API code (v5.09).  The old code is returning the point forecast.  So... they must be mucking with it.  (remember that the API is still in BETA).

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2018, 12:24:47 PM »
Looking at the view-source of the page, I see
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<!-- point forecast more than 18hrs old (age h:m:s is 24:38:36) .. use Zone forecast instead -->
and that's why the Zone is shown instead.

They're a bit behind in the ingress of gridpoint data to the api.weather.gov service .. usually, that happens every 8 hours or so.
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2018, 02:00:53 PM »
My forecast is back to normal.

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2018, 06:45:18 AM »
My forecast page http://www.daybreakimagery.com/weather/forecast.php has been giving issues now for at least 18 hours again.  I don't know if they changed something?  When I look at my printable forecast on the NWS page it looks fine.  I've noticed others are having issues also.

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2018, 09:02:02 AM »
My forecast page http://www.daybreakimagery.com/weather/forecast.php has been giving issues now for at least 18 hours again.  I don't know if they changed something?  When I look at my printable forecast on the NWS page it looks fine.  I've noticed others are having issues also.

Richard

I'm having the same problem. It was fine yesterday oddly enough, but today's same error.
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2018, 09:08:11 AM »
Yup.  Things are slightly askew for me this morning...

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2018, 10:03:33 AM »
Yes mine as well this morning, the last forecast was from yesterday.

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2018, 10:59:02 AM »
No forecast here since 8-20 @ 8:46PM

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2018, 11:13:01 AM »
Mine is down also.

It would be nice if we could have a similar but abbreviated error message appear on our Index/Main page of our websites with the forecast icons at the bottom of the page.

My Point Forecast was working yesterday so I don't know why the zone forecast displayed is from August 15th. The Zone forecast on my Index page is not even close to being correct.

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2018, 02:23:15 PM »
I just tried ?force=1 and my forecast has finally updated.
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2018, 12:20:52 AM »
Just got home and checked BeeWeather and the forecasts are working again!!!  =D&gt;

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2018, 02:49:32 PM »
Mine is also working again.

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2018, 04:45:20 PM »
Something new here for my point forecast this afternoon:  it's unavailable via advforecast2.php, as is a current zone forecast.

Yet this shows up when I go to OAX and click on my location.

Is there a new wrinkle here?

Edit 3:40 PM CDT 2018 Sept 20:  The advforecast2.php is now returning a more complete forecast, but yesterday's icons are still present.  Apparently the NWS is fiddling with these forecasts, and we have as yet to see the final results.  I think nothing is warranted at this point except sitting tight.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2018, 04:52:43 PM by gwwilk »
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2018, 09:39:32 AM »
My advforecast2.php still gives me an old zone forecast, and the same is true for all of the OAX forecasts listed under my NWS Forecasts.  Yet my point forecast displays on the NWS/OAX site.

I'm not sure what's going on here.  Any thoughts?
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2018, 10:45:46 AM »
There's a bit of apples:oranges here.  The website is using the V5 JSON forecast, and the point-forecast link you cited is for the 'old' (not V3) forecast, which seems to work.  Doing a view-source on your page with ?force=1 shows
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<!-- advforecast2.php (JSON) - V5.09 - 26-May-2018 on PHP 5.4.19-->
<!-- RAW NWS URL: https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Lincoln&state=NE&site=OAX&textField1=40.8164&textField2=-96.6882&e=0&TextType=2 -->
<!-- zone=NEZ066 -->
<!-- loaded URLcache from ./cache/forecast-URLcache.txt with 3 entries -->
<!-- corrected NWS API URL='https://api.weather.gov/points/40.8164,-96.6882/forecast' -->
<!-- replaced point URL with gridpoint URL from URLcache -->
<!-- curl fetching 'https://api.weather.gov/gridpoints/OAX/56,39/forecast' -->
<!-- HTTP stats:  RC=200 dest=23.45.184.117
      Times: dns=0.000 conn=0.010 pxfer=0.056 get=0.251 total=0.307 secs -->
<!-- loaded point-forecast https://api.weather.gov/points/40.8164,-96.6882/forecast - 10364 bytes -->
<!-- wrote cache file ./cache/forecast-NEZ066-0-json.txt -->
<!-- point forecast more than 18hrs old (age h:m:s is 63:37:11) .. use Zone forecast instead -->
<!-- curl fetching 'https://api.weather.gov/zones/JSON-LD/NEZ066/forecast' -->
<!-- HTTP stats:  RC=200 dest=23.45.184.117
      Times: dns=0.000 conn=0.010 pxfer=0.056 get=0.011 total=0.067 secs -->
<!-- loaded (Zone forecast) https://api.weather.gov/zones/JSON-LD/NEZ066/forecast - 4104 bytes -->
<!-- wrote cache file ./cache/forecast-NEZ066-0-json.txt -->
<!-- meta info re: point='40.8164,-96.6882' zone='NEZ066' metacache= './cache/forecast-NEZ066-0-json-meta.txt' -->
<!-- metaZoneURL='https://api.weather.gov/zones/forecast/NEZ066' -->
<!-- loaded meta info from ./cache/forecast-NEZ066-0-json-meta.txt -->
<!-- META
Array
(
    [city] => Lincoln
    [state] => NE
    [point] => 40.8164,-96.6882
    [forecastOfficeURL] => https://api.weather.gov/offices/OAX
    [forecastZoneURL] => https://api.weather.gov/zones/forecast/NEZ066
    [forecastZone] => NEZ066
    [forecastHourlyURL] => https://api.weather.gov/points/40.8164,-96.6882/forecast/hourly
    [forecastGridDataURL] => https://api.weather.gov/gridpoints/OAX/56,39
    [observationStationsURL] => https://api.weather.gov/points/40.8164,-96.6882/stations
    [countyZoneURL] => https://api.weather.gov/zones/county/NEC109
    [countyZone] => NEC109
    [fireWeatherZoneURL] => https://api.weather.gov/zones/fire/NEZ066
    [fireWeatherZone] => NEZ066
    [timeZone] => America/Chicago
    [radarStation] => KOAX
    [zoneName] => Lancaster
    [WFOname] => Omaha/Valley, NE
    [WFOphone] => 402-359-5166
    [WFOemail] => w-oax.webmaster@noaa.gov
)
 -->
<!-- ZONE forecast processing -->
which shows the issue is an old gridpoint forecast (more than 18 hrs) using the JSON API, so the script loads the Zone forecast instead.  For some reason, the NWS is not refreshing the gridpoint forecast with current data -- should be no more than 8 hours old.  It's an NWS issue with the api.weather.gov server.
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2018, 11:28:22 AM »
Thanks for the educational and informative reply, as always, Ken!  I'll send an email to the zone forecast's nws address to see if something can be done about it.

I'll correct the 'Special Message' on my website.
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2018, 07:03:23 PM »
I'd suggest you revert to the advforecast2.php V4.05 for the time being.  I've set up my testing site to use your Lincoln, NE URL so I can look too. 

I notice that the https://forecast-V3.weather.gov/ site (API driven) is going very slowly now, and sometimes failing (with 500-Server Error) on point forecast requests.  Glad that site is not production yet... :roll:
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2018, 07:44:59 PM »
Thanks, Ken, for ferreting out the problem and suggesting the solution!  I've reverted to the smaller icons with v4.05 by modifying advforecast2.php (v4.05), DualImage.php, and Settings.php.

It works (somewhat in that I only have a single row of icons right now): https://www.gwwilkins.org/wxforecast.php

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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2018, 12:09:02 AM »
The 4.x version of the script only does 1 row.. the 5.x version does two rows because more icons were available :)

Glad you've bypassed the issues with the NWS V3 forecast beta for now...
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Re: advforecast2.php issue
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2018, 09:36:11 AM »
Aha!  I had forgotten about the single row in V4.xx.

Interestingly, 'check-fetch-times.php' now correctly prompts me to update my advforecast2.php to v5.09.  :-)  The link you provided, https://forecast-v3.weather.gov/, allows me to check on the current status of my OAX pre-production point forecasts.  They're still unavailable as of today. :-(
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