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 In the presented work, on numerous facts it is convincingly proved that tidal forces are a delusion.
To date, there are quite a lot of theories and hypotheses that rely on tidal power.
And the tidal force must be removed from celestial mechanics and then everything will fall into place. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_force
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continental shelfs have a lot to do with tides (i.e big shelfs cause bigger tides...e.g NW Australia)

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2019, 09:48:01 AM »
It is believed that the tides in the northern seas are created by a tidal wave that moves from the north of the Atlantic Ocean to the Bering Strait, i.e. from west to east.
At the same time, the moon moves from east to west. Where is the logic?
https://www.esr.org/research/polar-tide-models/movies/?fbclid=IwAR3fB506PI_LBQcjUyDVVjtSjLNW_voHpajgMBjuTXOPK9I4aMGcdT8rFYg
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2019, 11:55:15 AM »
Who can explain the mechanism of the movement of the tidal wave, from the Atlantic Ocean to Alaska, from west to east.
At a time when the moon is moving from east to west?
https://www.esr.org/research/polar-tide-models/movies/?fbclid=IwAR3fB506PI_LBQcjUyDVVjtSjLNW_voHpajgMBjuTXOPK9I4aMGcdT8rFYg

Look at windy app you will see wind forces which are normal tidal forces. It might be a clue.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2019, 11:41:12 AM »
3. The phase difference between the solar and lunar forces changes.
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2019, 02:56:09 PM »
actually just trying to explain why there is 2 tides a day is not easy
(i.e why is there a tidal bulge on the side opposite to the moon)

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2019, 01:01:40 PM »
actually just trying to explain why there is 2 tides a day is not easy
(i.e why is there a tidal bulge on the side opposite to the moon)
There is no bulge.  Which is why it’s so hard to explain.


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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2019, 02:23:04 PM »
as in there is no spoon?

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2019, 02:53:20 PM »
Don't you remember? The dish ran away with the spoon.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2019, 04:10:41 PM »
I guess if you think of tides like a rotating pendulum, and the moon gives that pendulum a nudge every 24 hours
then for some reason (the way it has evolved over time?) that pendulum moves back and forth 2x in the time it lines up again with the moon to get another nudge
there is a bit of gravity pull from the sun too and so if the moon and sun are opposite then that might give that pendulum 2 nudges in 24 hours

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2019, 09:00:35 AM »
as in there is no spoon?
No, it means there is no bulge. There’s no bulge under the moon, there’s no bulge opposite the moon


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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2019, 11:14:44 AM »
I always meant to Google or calculate that lol. 1600 km/h.

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Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2020, 03:50:50 PM »
are you trying to say that the moon does not cause tides?
then how come tide charts based on the moon are so accurate?
In the Bay of Fundy, the lunar theory does not work, due to the large range of tidal amplitudes, from 6 to 18 m.
Lunar theory predicts well where there is a small range of tidal amplitudes, from 0.5 to 1 m. (There will be a small error).
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2020, 04:17:03 AM »
All currents that move in the seas and oceans reflect a tidal wave, and they are called tidal currents, and the greater the kinetic energy of the currents, the greater the tidal wave.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/oceanography/ocean-current4.htm
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2020, 07:42:56 PM »
Tidal waves are synchronized with the daily rotation of the earth and daily behind for 50 minutes.
The moon is not in sync with the tidal waves. (The moon is one, and there are hundreds of tidal waves on Earth)?
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2020, 11:21:07 PM »
but the moon is in sync with the tides

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Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2020, 05:31:59 AM »
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Tide
The lunar theory of tides is too complex, it can not be studied, I think there is no person on earth who knows this theory.
Before accepting or refuting the theory, it must be examined.
Anyone who understands this theory, he will refuse it.
Then show us your simple maths to accurately calculate the tides at a given place using whirlpools please.
I'd gladly give up using harmonics if there was a much simpler way of doing it.
Wikipedia explains the tidal physics in many languages ​​of the world, and different formulas are written in each language, and in some languages ​​there are no formulas at all.
And there are no real, digital calculations of the tidal heights of a particular bay or coast.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide
By the degree of discrepancy of a particular theory, one can judge the degree of inaccuracy of the theory.
In Wikipedia and the encyclopedia, gravitational and centrifugal forces are equally explained in all languages.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2020, 08:32:14 AM »
The earth is actually flat, that's why.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2020, 03:57:05 PM »
The problem with the study of tides is that researchers are hesitant to completely reject the idea of ​​the effect of the moon on tides. Focusing on a small increase in the height of the tides in the new moon phase. By asserting that since the height of the tides rises in the new moon phase, the moon is involved in the tides. And do not pay attention to a dozen other mismatches.
The tide table was compiled before and after the static theory of tides by trial and error, based on experience and long-term data. At one time, the solar calendars were also drawn up by trial and error, being sure that the sun revolved around the earth.

And according to the circulation theory of tides, the height of the tides also depends on the orbital velocity of the Earth. Which, in the new moon is maximum and in the full moon is minimal, due to the rotation of the moon around the earth.
A = V1 • V2 / t.
If, you move in a car weighing 800 kg., And around the car rotates a load of 10 kg. Thanks to the load, the car will move unevenly.
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The dynamic theory of tides is unique in that it is not available either on Wikipedia, on the Internet, or in dictionaries. At the same time, it is considered the main theory, and taught in educational institutions, calendars of tides are compiled on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide

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The dynamic theory of tides is unique in that it is not available either on Wikipedia,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_tides#The_dynamic_theory

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According to the Lunar tide theory, the maximum tides are formed in the phase of the new moon and full moon, and the minimum - in the first and fourth quarter.
But in reality, the maximum tides are formed in the new moon, the minimum - in the full moon.
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