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Oh no. It's fun. Akin to the thread that posits the main force that allow aircraft fly is due to gravitational forces repelling  them from the surface.
Where is that thread?


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I have no idea what that means


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 In the presented work, on numerous facts it is convincingly proved that tidal forces are a delusion.
To date, there are quite a lot of theories and hypotheses that rely on tidal power.
And the tidal force must be removed from celestial mechanics and then everything will fall into place. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_force
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Who knows how many people die every year from floods and waves of killers and how many people this theory can save.
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A “lunar tidal wave” moving from the Indian Ocean from east to west, crashing into the eastern coast of Madagascar, creates tides 1.5 meters high and abnormally high tides up to 7 meters high, for some reason are formed in the west of Madagascar. And it should be the other way around.
Wikipedia explains this discrepancy by the reflection of waves and the fact that the Coriolis force does its job.
And the real reason for this inconsistency is the giant cycle that revolves around the island of Madagascar at a speed of up to 9 km / h, precessing, reflecting a tidal wave towards the west coast of the island of Madagascar.
https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR3fDQD_uF0xgVpETpxVzbrv2xxgzOR0UfAKIEFDHAKoC2jzE-Mpu1lIWMs#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=44.73,-20.54,1976/loc=-66.405,44.310
Map of the height of the tides.
https://images.app.goo.gl/wpiQjgrNFEdr4HZE6 https://images.app.goo.gl/hmc3gKegiLjYmeoT9
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continental shelfs have a lot to do with tides (i.e big shelfs cause bigger tides...e.g NW Australia)

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2019, 09:48:01 AM »
It is believed that the tides in the northern seas are created by a tidal wave that moves from the north of the Atlantic Ocean to the Bering Strait, i.e. from west to east.
At the same time, the moon moves from east to west. Where is the logic?
https://www.esr.org/research/polar-tide-models/movies/?fbclid=IwAR3fB506PI_LBQcjUyDVVjtSjLNW_voHpajgMBjuTXOPK9I4aMGcdT8rFYg
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2019, 11:55:15 AM »
Who can explain the mechanism of the movement of the tidal wave, from the Atlantic Ocean to Alaska, from west to east.
At a time when the moon is moving from east to west?
https://www.esr.org/research/polar-tide-models/movies/?fbclid=IwAR3fB506PI_LBQcjUyDVVjtSjLNW_voHpajgMBjuTXOPK9I4aMGcdT8rFYg

Look at windy app you will see wind forces which are normal tidal forces. It might be a clue.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2019, 09:44:09 AM »
The assertion that local geographic conditions, especially the narrowing bay and the depth of the coast, is theoretically and experimentally unsubstantiated information taken from the ceiling has a great influence on the tide height.
The filling of the bay lasts 6 hours and is extremely slow at a barely noticeable speed, this can be easily checked in the kitchen with the help of a saucer.
The shape of the bay can increase the height of the tides up to two times, but not ten times.
The average tide height in all oceans is 1 meter and in the Bay of Fundy 18 meters. https://youtu.be/LuxTviktIN8 https://youtu.be/xqPPxTEqTR8
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2019, 10:38:29 AM »
Who can explain this entry:
“Mixed tides result from the complex interaction between the lunar and solar tidal waves and the geographic environment (ie, coastline, bottom topography, etc.).” http://de-ussr.ru/priroda-ludi/vod-obolochka/priliv.html
For reference: Mixed tides - when today there is one tide per day, and tomorrow two tides per day.

So, what changes have occurred during the day:
1. The force of gravity has changed.
2. The geographical situation has changed (that is, the shape of the coast, the topography of the bottom, etc.).

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2019, 11:41:12 AM »
3. The phase difference between the solar and lunar forces changes.
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2019, 02:56:09 PM »
actually just trying to explain why there is 2 tides a day is not easy
(i.e why is there a tidal bulge on the side opposite to the moon)

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2019, 01:01:40 PM »
actually just trying to explain why there is 2 tides a day is not easy
(i.e why is there a tidal bulge on the side opposite to the moon)
There is no bulge.  Which is why it’s so hard to explain.


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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2019, 02:23:04 PM »
as in there is no spoon?

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2019, 02:53:20 PM »
Don't you remember? The dish ran away with the spoon.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2019, 04:10:41 PM »
I guess if you think of tides like a rotating pendulum, and the moon gives that pendulum a nudge every 24 hours
then for some reason (the way it has evolved over time?) that pendulum moves back and forth 2x in the time it lines up again with the moon to get another nudge
there is a bit of gravity pull from the sun too and so if the moon and sun are opposite then that might give that pendulum 2 nudges in 24 hours

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2019, 09:00:35 AM »
as in there is no spoon?
No, it means there is no bulge. There’s no bulge under the moon, there’s no bulge opposite the moon


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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2019, 09:47:54 AM »
Coriolis force occurs when an object approaches or moves away from the axis of the earth.
At the same time, when an object that moves on the ground approaches or moves away from the axis of the sun, the Coriolis solar power arises.
The deviating Coriolis force of the sun due to the axial and orbital rotation of the earth is much more complicated.
The course of the Volga River, the strength of the Coriolis land constantly presses against the western bank of the river.
And the Coriolis force of the sun, due to the axial rotation of the earth, presses the course of the Volga River, then to the west bank, then to the east, twice a day.
For this reason, winding currents are formed, barely noticeable diurnal tides and fenders.

The zone of the earth, which is at dawn, due to the daily rotation of the earth approaches the sun at a speed of 1600 km / h, and the zone of land that is at sunset, moves away from the sun at a speed of 1600 km / h, due to which, the Coriolis force of the sun stretches the earth along the orbit for several meters.
The Coriolis force of the sun does not affect the midday and midnight zones of the earth, because these zones do not approach and do not move away from the sun.
The aforesaid can be easily checked if you rotate the globe around its axis and in orbit, entwined along the equator and the meridian with a plastic hose in which the fluid moves.

The power of the Coriolis of the sun participates in the formation of the orbit of the moon:
When the Moon in the third phase approaches the sun and in the second phase moves away from the sun, the Coriolis force of the sun stretches the moon’s orbit along the earth’s orbit, due to which an ellipse is formed.
In the phase of the new moon and the full moon, the Coriolis force of the sun does not affect the orbit of the moon, because in these phases, the moon does not approach and does not move away from the sun.
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2019, 11:14:44 AM »
I always meant to Google or calculate that lol. 1600 km/h.