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 In the presented work, on numerous facts it is convincingly proved that tidal forces are a delusion.
To date, there are quite a lot of theories and hypotheses that rely on tidal power.
And the tidal force must be removed from celestial mechanics and then everything will fall into place. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_force
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continental shelfs have a lot to do with tides (i.e big shelfs cause bigger tides...e.g NW Australia)

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2019, 09:48:01 AM »
It is believed that the tides in the northern seas are created by a tidal wave that moves from the north of the Atlantic Ocean to the Bering Strait, i.e. from west to east.
At the same time, the moon moves from east to west. Where is the logic?
https://www.esr.org/research/polar-tide-models/movies/?fbclid=IwAR3fB506PI_LBQcjUyDVVjtSjLNW_voHpajgMBjuTXOPK9I4aMGcdT8rFYg
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2019, 11:55:15 AM »
Who can explain the mechanism of the movement of the tidal wave, from the Atlantic Ocean to Alaska, from west to east.
At a time when the moon is moving from east to west?
https://www.esr.org/research/polar-tide-models/movies/?fbclid=IwAR3fB506PI_LBQcjUyDVVjtSjLNW_voHpajgMBjuTXOPK9I4aMGcdT8rFYg

Look at windy app you will see wind forces which are normal tidal forces. It might be a clue.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2019, 11:41:12 AM »
3. The phase difference between the solar and lunar forces changes.
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2019, 02:56:09 PM »
actually just trying to explain why there is 2 tides a day is not easy
(i.e why is there a tidal bulge on the side opposite to the moon)

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2019, 01:01:40 PM »
actually just trying to explain why there is 2 tides a day is not easy
(i.e why is there a tidal bulge on the side opposite to the moon)
There is no bulge.  Which is why its so hard to explain.


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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2019, 02:23:04 PM »
as in there is no spoon?

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2019, 02:53:20 PM »
Don't you remember? The dish ran away with the spoon.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2019, 04:10:41 PM »
I guess if you think of tides like a rotating pendulum, and the moon gives that pendulum a nudge every 24 hours
then for some reason (the way it has evolved over time?) that pendulum moves back and forth 2x in the time it lines up again with the moon to get another nudge
there is a bit of gravity pull from the sun too and so if the moon and sun are opposite then that might give that pendulum 2 nudges in 24 hours

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2019, 09:00:35 AM »
as in there is no spoon?
No, it means there is no bulge. Theres no bulge under the moon, theres no bulge opposite the moon


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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2019, 11:14:44 AM »
I always meant to Google or calculate that lol. 1600 km/h.

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Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2020, 03:50:50 PM »
are you trying to say that the moon does not cause tides?
then how come tide charts based on the moon are so accurate?
In the Bay of Fundy, the lunar theory does not work, due to the large range of tidal amplitudes, from 6 to 18 m.
Lunar theory predicts well where there is a small range of tidal amplitudes, from 0.5 to 1 m. (There will be a small error).
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2020, 04:17:03 AM »
All currents that move in the seas and oceans reflect a tidal wave, and they are called tidal currents, and the greater the kinetic energy of the currents, the greater the tidal wave.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/oceanography/ocean-current4.htm
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2020, 07:42:56 PM »
Tidal waves are synchronized with the daily rotation of the earth and daily behind for 50 minutes.
The moon is not in sync with the tidal waves. (The moon is one, and there are hundreds of tidal waves on Earth)?
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2020, 11:21:07 PM »
but the moon is in sync with the tides

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Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2020, 05:31:59 AM »
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Tide
The lunar theory of tides is too complex, it can not be studied, I think there is no person on earth who knows this theory.
Before accepting or refuting the theory, it must be examined.
Anyone who understands this theory, he will refuse it.
Then show us your simple maths to accurately calculate the tides at a given place using whirlpools please.
I'd gladly give up using harmonics if there was a much simpler way of doing it.
Wikipedia explains the tidal physics in many languages ​​of the world, and different formulas are written in each language, and in some languages ​​there are no formulas at all.
And there are no real, digital calculations of the tidal heights of a particular bay or coast.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide
By the degree of discrepancy of a particular theory, one can judge the degree of inaccuracy of the theory.
In Wikipedia and the encyclopedia, gravitational and centrifugal forces are equally explained in all languages.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2020, 04:06:25 PM »
The dynamic theory of tides is unique in that it is not available either on Wikipedia, on the Internet, or in dictionaries. At the same time, it is considered the main theory, and taught in educational institutions, calendars of tides are compiled on it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2020, 08:32:14 AM »
The earth is actually flat, that's why.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2020, 09:14:39 AM »
The indisputable dynamic theory of tides has not yet been written. For this reason, the dynamic theory of tides, in fact being a hypothesis, is poorly covered on the Internet.
At the same time, the dynamic theory is considered the main theory, it is taught in educational institutions and on it are calendars of tides.
According to the dynamic theory of tides, the lunar tidal wave moves from east to west at a speed of 800 to 1,600 km / h. Crashing into the continents, part of the wave scatters in place, and the reflected part rotates around the ocean due to the Coriolis effect. Like water that rotates in a cup if you move the cup back and forth.
The only link on the Internet that reveals the "essence" of the dynamic theory of tides. http://www.iupui.edu/~g115/mod12/lecture07.html
 
Questions arise:
1. What happens in the region where the tidal hump collides with the continent?
2. If you move the cup of water back and forth, the water will splash out, not spin.
3. Does the gravity of the moon affect the speed of the secondary tidal wave, which moves from west to east?
4. Is the moon in sync with secondary tidal waves?
5. Four tidal humps, two moons and two suns simultaneously move across the Earth. Do primary and secondary tidal waves collide with each other?
6. How does a current that moves along the coast create tides?
7. As you know, the Coriolis effect rejects objects that move only along the meridian. Coriolis force does not deflect objects that move along the equator.
8. Why does the Coriolis force not deflect the lunar tidal wave, which moves from east to west?
9. The Coriolis effect is able to deflect only the current, but not the tidal wave and tsunami.
10. Does the Coriolis effect affect the atmosphere and continents?
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2020, 03:57:05 PM »
The problem with the study of tides is that researchers are hesitant to completely reject the idea of ​​the effect of the moon on tides. Focusing on a small increase in the height of the tides in the new moon phase. By asserting that since the height of the tides rises in the new moon phase, the moon is involved in the tides. And do not pay attention to a dozen other mismatches.
The tide table was compiled before and after the static theory of tides by trial and error, based on experience and long-term data. At one time, the solar calendars were also drawn up by trial and error, being sure that the sun revolved around the earth.

And according to the circulation theory of tides, the height of the tides also depends on the orbital velocity of the Earth. Which, in the new moon is maximum and in the full moon is minimal, due to the rotation of the moon around the earth.
A = V1 V2 / t.
If, you move in a car weighing 800 kg., And around the car rotates a load of 10 kg. Thanks to the load, the car will move unevenly.
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