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Oh no. It's fun. Akin to the thread that posits the main force that allow aircraft fly is due to gravitational forces repelling  them from the surface.
Where is that thread?


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I have no idea what that means


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 In the presented work, on numerous facts it is convincingly proved that tidal forces are a delusion.
To date, there are quite a lot of theories and hypotheses that rely on tidal power.
And the tidal force must be removed from celestial mechanics and then everything will fall into place. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_force
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Who knows how many people die every year from floods and waves of killers and how many people this theory can save.
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A “lunar tidal wave” moving from the Indian Ocean from east to west, crashing into the eastern coast of Madagascar, creates tides 1.5 meters high and abnormally high tides up to 7 meters high, for some reason are formed in the west of Madagascar. And it should be the other way around.
Wikipedia explains this discrepancy by the reflection of waves and the fact that the Coriolis force does its job.
And the real reason for this inconsistency is the giant cycle that revolves around the island of Madagascar at a speed of up to 9 km / h, precessing, reflecting a tidal wave towards the west coast of the island of Madagascar.
https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR3fDQD_uF0xgVpETpxVzbrv2xxgzOR0UfAKIEFDHAKoC2jzE-Mpu1lIWMs#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=44.73,-20.54,1976/loc=-66.405,44.310
Map of the height of the tides.
https://images.app.goo.gl/wpiQjgrNFEdr4HZE6 https://images.app.goo.gl/hmc3gKegiLjYmeoT9
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continental shelfs have a lot to do with tides (i.e big shelfs cause bigger tides...e.g NW Australia)

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2019, 09:48:01 AM »
It is believed that the tides in the northern seas are created by a tidal wave that moves from the north of the Atlantic Ocean to the Bering Strait, i.e. from west to east.
At the same time, the moon moves from east to west. Where is the logic?
https://www.esr.org/research/polar-tide-models/movies/?fbclid=IwAR3fB506PI_LBQcjUyDVVjtSjLNW_voHpajgMBjuTXOPK9I4aMGcdT8rFYg
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2019, 11:55:15 AM »
Who can explain the mechanism of the movement of the tidal wave, from the Atlantic Ocean to Alaska, from west to east.
At a time when the moon is moving from east to west?
https://www.esr.org/research/polar-tide-models/movies/?fbclid=IwAR3fB506PI_LBQcjUyDVVjtSjLNW_voHpajgMBjuTXOPK9I4aMGcdT8rFYg

Look at windy app you will see wind forces which are normal tidal forces. It might be a clue.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2019, 09:44:09 AM »
The assertion that local geographic conditions, especially the narrowing bay and the depth of the coast, is theoretically and experimentally unsubstantiated information taken from the ceiling has a great influence on the tide height.
The filling of the bay lasts 6 hours and is extremely slow at a barely noticeable speed, this can be easily checked in the kitchen with the help of a saucer.
The shape of the bay can increase the height of the tides up to two times, but not ten times.
The average tide height in all oceans is 1 meter and in the Bay of Fundy 18 meters. https://youtu.be/LuxTviktIN8 https://youtu.be/xqPPxTEqTR8
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2019, 10:38:29 AM »
Who can explain this entry:
“Mixed tides result from the complex interaction between the lunar and solar tidal waves and the geographic environment (ie, coastline, bottom topography, etc.).” http://de-ussr.ru/priroda-ludi/vod-obolochka/priliv.html
For reference: Mixed tides - when today there is one tide per day, and tomorrow two tides per day.

So, what changes have occurred during the day:
1. The force of gravity has changed.
2. The geographical situation has changed (that is, the shape of the coast, the topography of the bottom, etc.).

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2019, 11:41:12 AM »
3. The phase difference between the solar and lunar forces changes.
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2019, 02:56:09 PM »
actually just trying to explain why there is 2 tides a day is not easy
(i.e why is there a tidal bulge on the side opposite to the moon)

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2019, 01:01:40 PM »
actually just trying to explain why there is 2 tides a day is not easy
(i.e why is there a tidal bulge on the side opposite to the moon)
There is no bulge.  Which is why it’s so hard to explain.


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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2019, 02:23:04 PM »
as in there is no spoon?

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2019, 02:53:20 PM »
Don't you remember? The dish ran away with the spoon.

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2019, 04:10:41 PM »
I guess if you think of tides like a rotating pendulum, and the moon gives that pendulum a nudge every 24 hours
then for some reason (the way it has evolved over time?) that pendulum moves back and forth 2x in the time it lines up again with the moon to get another nudge
there is a bit of gravity pull from the sun too and so if the moon and sun are opposite then that might give that pendulum 2 nudges in 24 hours

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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2019, 09:00:35 AM »
as in there is no spoon?
No, it means there is no bulge. There’s no bulge under the moon, there’s no bulge opposite the moon


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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2019, 09:47:54 AM »
In the Indian Ocean, a “Lunar Tidal Wave” with a height of 0.5 meters, moves from east to west after the moon, at a speed of 1600 km / h and crashing into the eastern coast of Madagascar creates tides 1.5 meters high, and abnormally high tides up to 7 meters, for some reason are formed in the west of the island of Madagascar.
And it should be the other way around.
Wikipedia explains this discrepancy by the reflection of waves and the fact that the Coriolis force does its job.
And the real reason for this inconsistency is the giant cycle that revolves around the island of Madagascar at a speed of up to 9 km / h, precessing, reflecting a tidal wave towards the west coast of the island of Madagascar.
https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR3fDQD_uF0xgVpETpxVzbrv2xxgzOR0UfAKIEFDHAKoC2jzE-Mpu1lIWMs#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=44.73,-20.54,1976/loc=-66.405,44.310
Map of the height of the tides. https://images.app.goo.gl/hmc3gKegiLjYmeoT9
Quote: “a half-meter“ lunar tidal wave ”, such as a mini-tsunami, rushes to the eastern coast of the continents at the equator at a supersonic speed.
At our latitudes, the speed reaches 250-300 m / s. "
https://scfh.ru/lecture/prilivy-i-otlivy-v-moryakh-i-vo-vselennoy/
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8
https://youtu.be/NqDEaFjIXPw

Wikipedia explains the tidal physics in many languages ​​of the world, and different formulas are written in each language, and in some languages ​​there are no formulas at all.
And there are no real, digital calculations of the tidal heights of a particular bay or coast.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B2_%D0%B8_%D0%BE%D1%82 % D0% BB% D0% B8% D0% B2 #
By the degree of discrepancy of a particular theory, one can judge the degree of inaccuracy of the theory.
In Wikipedia and the encyclopedia, gravitational and centrifugal forces are equally explained in all languages.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8 % D1% 8F
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B6 % D0% BD% D0% B0% D1% 8F_% D1% 81% D0% B8% D0% BB% D0% B0

The height of the tidal wave in the open ocean according to the "dynamic theory of tides" is about 0.5 meters, and the speed is from 800 to 1600 km / h.
The height of the tsunami in the open ocean is about 0.5 meters and the speed is about 700 km / h.
Why is it possible to fix a tsunami in the open ocean and a tidal wave fails, despite the fact that tidal waves have a tidal calendar? https://youtu.be/NBVZs9-bOS0
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Re: The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2019, 11:14:44 AM »
I always meant to Google or calculate that lol. 1600 km/h.

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Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2019, 02:02:11 PM »
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Tide
The lunar theory of tides is too complex, it can not be studied, I think there is no person on earth who knows this theory.
Before accepting or refuting the theory, it must be examined.
Anyone who understands this theory, he will refuse it.
Then show us your simple maths to accurately calculate the tides at a given place using whirlpools please.
I'd gladly give up using harmonics if there was a much simpler way of doing it.
Please indicate the name of the coast, the speed of the current along the coast and the depth of the coast.
And I will calculate the height of the tides.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2019, 05:32:32 PM by Fermer05 »

 

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