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Offline waysta

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NYS Mesonet
« on: April 26, 2017, 03:43:56 PM »
The NYS Mesonet http://www.nysmesonet.org seems to have most of their stations installed now.  I had been meaning to drive by the Westmoreland site to see if I could see it from the road, but now they have posted detailed pictures for the site:
http://www.nysmesonet.org/about/sites#?stid=WEST (I like the little 10 meter fold over tower)

I requested April for comparison to Griffis AFB KRME and my PWS.  A spot check compares favorably using starpath http://www.starpath.com/barometers/baro_cal.php with the station elevation of 199.6 meters and the NOAA conversion from mb to inHg at https://www.weather.gov/media/epz/wxcalc/pressureConversion.pdf PinHg = 0.0295300 Pmb .

Although there is no tabular data, the request box, including for personal use, makes the data accessible.
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Re: NYS Mesonet
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 05:25:18 PM »
Looks like a nice station, did you see the camera? Looks like a Hikvision. Temp/humidity sensors look to be mounted between 8-9'.
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Re: NYS Mesonet
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2017, 06:20:03 PM »
Looks like a nice station
Temp/humidity sensors look to be mounted between 8-9'.
I wouldn't mind it.  :-)
Under "measured variables" it says 2 meters for temp/humidity and 9 meters for temp only.

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Re: NYS Mesonet
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 06:40:59 PM »
Looks like a nice station
Temp/humidity sensors look to be mounted between 8-9'.
I wouldn't mind it.  :-)
Under "measured variables" it says 2 meters for temp/humidity and 9 meters for temp only.

Normally they are 1.5 meters, could be they are compensating for snow like they do on mountain sites.
The 9 meter is just a secondary with non aspirated shield should there be a power outage. It even says the passive non aspirated will have a warm bias on calm windless days.  :-) Go figure

https://www.mesonet.org/index.php/site/about/air_temperature_and_related_measurements
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Re: NYS Mesonet
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 07:10:11 PM »
Looks like a nice station
Temp/humidity sensors look to be mounted between 8-9'.
I wouldn't mind it.  :-)
Under "measured variables" it says 2 meters for temp/humidity and 9 meters for temp only.

It even says the passive non aspirated will have a warm bias on calm windless days.  :-) Go figure
https://www.mesonet.org/index.php/site/about/air_temperature_and_related_measurements
What a surprise!  :eek:
What truly is, is how much of an error at even 2m/s (~4.5mph), 3.0C (5.4F).
However, I'm sure there's still folks who still see it as "fuzzy math".  :roll:

Type    Sensor Used    Standards Units    Accuracy
Standard - Secondary    Thermometrics Air Temperature, PDF    degrees Celsius
0.5 C when windspeed is > 6 m/s
1.0 C when windspeed is 3 - 6 m/s
1.5 C when windspeed is 2 - 3 m/s
3.0C when windspeed is 1 - 2 m/s

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Re: NYS Mesonet
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2017, 07:27:37 PM »
Looks like a nice station
Temp/humidity sensors look to be mounted between 8-9'.
I wouldn't mind it.  :-)
Under "measured variables" it says 2 meters for temp/humidity and 9 meters for temp only.

It even says the passive non aspirated will have a warm bias on calm windless days.  :-) Go figure
https://www.mesonet.org/index.php/site/about/air_temperature_and_related_measurements
What a surprise!  :eek:
What truly is, is how much of an error at even 2m/s (~4.5mph), 3.0C (5.4F).
However, I'm sure there's still folks who still see it as "fuzzy math".  :roll:

Type    Sensor Used    Standards Units    Accuracy
Standard - Secondary    Thermometrics Air Temperature, PDF    degrees Celsius
0.5 C when windspeed is > 6 m/s
1.0 C when windspeed is 3 - 6 m/s
1.5 C when windspeed is 2 - 3 m/s
3.0C when windspeed is 1 - 2 m/s

As the old saying goes 'You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink'...I'll recommend especially for the new inexperienced asking whats important, but leave it at that. Everyone has a choice, the right choice and wrong choice.   :-)
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Re: NYS Mesonet
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 06:08:34 AM »
The NYS Mesonet http://www.nysmesonet.org seems to have most of their stations installed now.  I had been meaning to drive by the Westmoreland site to see if I could see it from the road, but now they have posted detailed pictures for the site:
http://www.nysmesonet.org/about/sites#?stid=WEST (I like the little 10 meter fold over tower)

I requested April for comparison to Griffis AFB KRME and my PWS.  A spot check compares favorably using starpath http://www.starpath.com/barometers/baro_cal.php with the station elevation of 199.6 meters and the NOAA conversion from mb to inHg at https://www.weather.gov/media/epz/wxcalc/pressureConversion.pdf PinHg = 0.0295300 Pmb .

Although there is no tabular data, the request box, including for personal use, makes the data accessible.


Never heard anyone specifically wanted to visit Westmoreland before  :-P
You can see my station from the road in Westmo if you happen by.


Seems many of the NY Mesonet stations are on farms. That location  is about a mile
from my old home and a hop skip and jump from my new place north of the Thruway.
Tony




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Re: NYS Mesonet
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 04:18:50 PM »
Never heard anyone specifically wanted to visit Westmoreland before  :-P
You can see my station from the road in Westmo if you happen by.

We should visit someday.  Some folks walking by my TOA-USPLN installation said they use your website, as have others, very popular over here.  I told them the only other new USPLN station in the area was at your site. (I don't maintain a website other than my WU page)
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Re: NYS Mesonet
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 04:33:03 PM »
 :grin:

I have yet to get my USPLN kit up. Life has gotten in the way.

And yeah, we should visit at some point!
Tony