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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #150 on: January 13, 2018, 09:08:14 AM »
I can give some good advice when it comes to OTA antennas and what kind to use. I would not recommend a combo UHF/VHF antenna, unless you live near all the towers you wish to receive. (No more than 35 miles away).

Also for UHF, I would suggest one with a bow-tie style design, and not a yagi if you live more than 50 miles out.

If you have VHF high channels, those on physical channels 7-13, get a stellar labs VHF hi band. http://www.newark.com/stellar-labs/30-2475/fringe-directional-antenna-vhf/dp/48Y8141

I have one of these, and it picks up two VHF hi stations at 100% as far as 41 miles away, the other at 25 miles. If you live more than 60 miles, get the bigger version of this. (30-2476)
Be sure to pick up a UHF/VHF signal joiner, and not a cable splitter to use in reverse.

If you split to several TV's, get an amplified splitter that is powered by one lead of coax, so you can locate the splitter outside where it is convenient to split off to different rooms.
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #151 on: February 10, 2018, 05:27:09 PM »
Antenna went up about a week ago. Got local CBS back (it was "no signal" with the old antenna). Still getting Tucson stations super-clear but did lose one. Antenna needs a simple aiming tweak.

So, now in a bigger hurry to dump Dish - they just came through with another price increase. In addition to the OTA stuff I'll add one streaming service. Suggestions needed on a DVR that can handle both of those plus  an on-line and/or part of the DVR TVGuide-type schedule. That should cover everything I need.

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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #152 on: February 10, 2018, 05:55:09 PM »
Antenna went up about a week ago. Got local CBS back (it was "no signal" with the old antenna). Still getting Tucson stations super-clear but did lose one. Antenna needs a simple aiming tweak.

So, now in a bigger hurry to dump Dish - they just came through with another price increase. In addition to the OTA stuff I'll add one streaming service. Suggestions needed on a DVR that can handle both of those plus  an on-line and/or part of the DVR TVGuide-type schedule. That should cover everything I need.

Thanks.

Ive been a Tivo use for about 25 years so I am sure I am a little biased. They make a OTA model that has all the basic apps netflix amazon you tube ect. the user interface has won awards in the past not sure how it stacks up nowdays compared to sat/cable boxes. The Tivo website shows the Roamio OTA 1 tb for $399 including lifetime service https://explore.tivo.com/antenna, it also shows thy are out of stock. That is the version I have and put a 3tb hard drive in it for $100 easy to do. Whatever you decide its nice having control.

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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #153 on: February 10, 2018, 08:05:55 PM »
Suggestions needed on a DVR that can handle both of those plus  an on-line and/or part of the DVR TVGuide-type schedule. That should cover everything I need.


I'm going to ask a dumb question.  Do you *really* need to record off-the-air, or is everything that you would record available from one or more streaming service?  If you're going to record it to watch later anyway, why pay for the DVR?

Although I have zero experience with them, Tablo (https://www.tablotv.com/products/) seems to come up as a cord-cutter DVR for OTA recording.  It also comes with an app that lets it integrate into an Apple TV, Amazon Fire stick, Roku, etc as another program source.  I have essentially zero OTA signals other than a local religious station at my house, so I don't have any choice but to stream previously-recorded shows.....
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #154 on: February 10, 2018, 08:51:26 PM »
Thanks for the info, Andy and vreihen. Have lots to think about.

TiVo seems pretty expensive while Tablo is $150 less. TiVo does not show access to Sling (I know - Dish!), and hulu has fewer channels than Sling but does have 2 of my favorites (both NatGeo channels) which Sling does not (so much for "a la carte"!). And so the head starts spinning...

The only "dumb" question, vreihen, is the one not asked. Yep, need OTA recording. Most of what I watch is on CBS which normally winds up in conflict with something else, and my watching habits are wide ranging. I will not purchase the CBS app - long story.

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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #155 on: February 11, 2018, 12:53:56 AM »
John, my wife and I just parted ways with DISH on January 12.  We had a subscription through our phone company and this month's phone bill was the first one below $100 that we've seen in YEARS!!!!!  :grin:  We have adapted well to not having satellite service.  We use OTA and streaming stuff...between Amazon Prime Video, an Amazon Fire Stick, and some of the streaming apps on the Roamio OTA we have way more than we will ever need....almost.

I have one of the TiVo Roamio OTA dvrs.  There are occasional glitches but I like it fine...it's not as refined (in ways) as the old DISH DVR, but it's entirely functional and it doesn't require a rocket scientist to figure it out.  The way I justified the cost of the Roamio OTA is that it will pay for itself in saved DISH subscription costs.  I figured six months pay-back....for the Roamio OTA and antenna system.  After that it's free sailing!!!  :)

So far we haven't subscribed to a streaming service.  There's tons to watch without paying for it but some content you can only get by having a subscription with a streaming content provider.  For me, it will be college football season that will pull me into paying for streaming content.  Other than that we really don't have a need for a $$$ content provider.  Thus, SLING TV is definitely on my radar.  I like their sports package that pretty well gets me covered for watching ballgames.  My problem is that I have a very slow DSL connection so I don't know what the visual quality of the content will be...that will be one of the bigger things I pay attention to when I try their free trial.  CBS is our main network, too.  We record probably 80% of our shows from them.  You can stream some of these shows for free, or probably all of them if you pay for the right streaming content provider.  There's a lot of smaller shows, and local shows that never make it to the streaming stage...but really, though, most of what's seen OTA can be streamed.

I don't know anything about Tablo to tell you other than to check and be sure you don't have to pay for some type of a guide subscription (for some reason I have that it my head).  Channel Master is coming out with there new Stream+ box dvr....only recording media for it will be a Micro-SD memory card.  The last time I looked these were being pre-sold for $99.  But, do not have multiple tuners and require the memory card for recording.

As for the TiVo Roamio OTA being out of stock...  There is some discussion about something new possibly coming out due to the no-inventory status of the OTA's.   Just be sure if you buy a TiVo that it has "Lifetime" associated with it.  You have to have a "guide" for the programs...description, time, date, length, etc., and TiVo's is specific to them.  "Lifetime" means you never have to paid them a subscription fee.  Some of their boxes do require a subscription.  Just something to be aware of regarding TiVo.

Best wishes on cutting the cable...you won't regret it and you'll wonder why in the world you didn't do it earlier!!!
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #156 on: February 11, 2018, 04:53:59 AM »
I was looking at the Tablo website out of curosity. A couple of things to consider.

1) It looks as though you have to provide your own USB external hard drive
2) It does not connect to your tv directly. It connects to your home network. Heres what it says

Q: Does Tablo OTA DVR connect to my TV?

A: No, Tablo OTA DVRs do not have an HDMI connection. Instead, Tablo streams live TV and recordings over your home network to compatible HDMI-enabled devices connected to your TV like streaming set-top-boxes and gaming systems. You can also use the Tablo web app with an HDMI-enabled computer connected to your TV, or directly on Smart TVs powered by Roku, Android TV or most LG WebOS 2.0 and 3.0 operating systems.

3) If you want guide data it costs $150 for lifetime service
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #157 on: February 11, 2018, 09:46:45 AM »
Andy, have you heard any rumblings of a replacement or new model of the Roamio OTA?  With TiVo having the Roamios on backorder it's causing a lot of discussion about whether they're discontinuing and replacing with a new model. 

With the $150 charge for the Tablo lifetime guide subscription it puts in inline with the TiVo...and you still need an external hard drive.  The Roamios come with a 1TB internal hard drive that some people upgrade to even a larger capacity drive.  Personally, mine and my wife's viewing habits I think will be fine with the 1TB.

As for me mentioning the rumors and conspiracy theories about a new model coming, I figure there will be a new model being as I bought my first TiVo this past Black Friday sale.

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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #158 on: February 11, 2018, 10:03:42 AM »
Andy, have you heard any rumblings of a replacement or new model of the Roamio OTA?  With TiVo having the Roamios on backorder it's causing a lot of discussion about whether they're discontinuing and replacing with a new model. 

With the $150 charge for the Tablo lifetime guide subscription it puts in inline with the TiVo...and you still need an external hard drive.  The Roamios come with a 1TB internal hard drive that some people upgrade to even a larger capacity drive.  Personally, mine and my wife's viewing habits I think will be fine with the 1TB.

As for me mentioning the rumors and conspiracy theories about a new model coming, I figure there will be a new model being as I bought my first TiVo this past Black Friday sale.

None other than the newest line of tivos are the "Bolt Series" at some point you would think the there would be a ota only bolt version. I think the biggest upgrade with the bolt is 4K so if you can live without that there probably wouldn't be a big reason to upgrade. Tivo was sold to Rovi a few years back and you dont seem to get the information like you used to. The old CEO was on CNBC regularly. It seems to me in general we are in a transition period from OTA Cable and Satellite to OTA, Cable, Satellite and streaming where that all ends up no one knows. If you do want to upgrade your hard drive its pretty easy plug and play up to a 3TB hard drive any larger and  there are more hoops to jump through. The only thing is you would loose all your recordings but you could transfer them off before the change, you have to repeat guided setup.

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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #159 on: February 11, 2018, 10:32:42 AM »
I record only to resolve conflicts or make sure I don't miss something I want to watch. All recorded shows are watched either the same night or next day so a large HD is not needed. Once watched the episode is deleted.

Not happy with the CM unit with no streams made available, only one tuner, card-based storage, etc. But, they make antennas so guess it makes sense to them.

Have noticed many cable/satellite-only channels are slowly making their way to OTA. Not all are worthwhile but maybe more will continue to come over.

Andy, the Tablo does come with an HD, but 'small' by today's standards (except for me where it would work just fine). I was not happy with their first connection to wi-fi requirement either.

Ed, the recent Dish price increase has simply pushed me to get outta there more quickly. With any luck others will follow. I think my pay-back time will be close to yours.
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« Reply #160 on: February 11, 2018, 03:00:01 PM »
John, the idea of the CM Stream+ is to have a DVR with streaming abilities.  I agree, storage on a Micro-SD card seems a bit lame to me.  There is a USB connection but they're staying quiet about it's use.  Their previous DVR, the "DVR+" or something like that, could have an external hard drive connected to it...I think they're kind of stumbling around with the Stream+ right now being as they've already killed (to the best of my knowledge) the DVR+ and don't have the Stream+ ready to roll out.   They were supposed to have it ready by the end of January for the first shipments...I ordered one for the $99 pre-buy price and received an email the other day telling me delivery has been rolled back to the end of February.  Maybe they'll fix the USB to connect to an external hard drive! ;)

Your recording habits are similar to mine, though we may wait a week or two before watching the recorded shows...depends on what all is going on in life.  But, the 1TB internal hard drive of the Roamio OTA seems to be adequate for us.   As for streaming stuff...FOX News, CBS News, etc., have some streaming apps...it's not really "live" but very recent airings of different shows...who knows, there might be some live stuff mixed it there.  For live sports, I think SLING TV will work me (again, if our internet speed allows it).  I will subscribe to it during college football season then cancel it.  Hulu also has some live streams.  If you are an Amazon Prime member they have tons of movies and shows available to you, too.  I've also added an Amazon Firestick which has some content that TiVo doesn't have.  I've got a Roku also, that I've yet to connect.  All Black Friday purchases. :)

John, if you call them up and tell them that you want to cancel your service they will do their best to hang onto you.  Naturally, the only way to hang onto you is to give you a lower price.  They did get it down a fair amount for me, but I had already made my mind up that I was getting it down to ZERO!!!  \:D/  So, see what they have to offer you, it might be good enough that you hang on a bit longer.  Watch the "contract" aspect, don't get into one unless you want to.  I personally think the Roamio OTA would be a good fit for you, your familiar with electronics and with DISH...operating TiVo is different but much similar to operating DISH.  It sounds like you're getting your antenna squared away...good!  I've still got more tinkering to do with mine.  Seems multipath interference is a problem, but we'll get it "good enough" before too much longer.

When I cancelled my DISH account I received an email from them a few days later telling me not to send the receiver VP622 (I think that is the model #) back to them, to dispose of it.  I had wiped everything from it the day before I cancelled.  After cancelling and the guy telling me they may or may not want the receiver back (I got the email later) I decided to try and see what it would do...it brought up some shopping channels and other junk channels, a bunch of porn channel placeholders, etc.,.  I never did try to see if the OTA receiver still worked, though.  I put it in a box and stuck it in a storage shed.  If they let you keep yours you ought to check and see if the OTA and DVR still works.  The problem is that you had rather have your replacement DVR already up and running when you "make the call".  So when they pull the plug you've already setup and tested out your new DVR system for recording your shows and it's ready to roll! :)

The big thing is figuring out which DVR to go with *and* it's availability. 
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #161 on: February 11, 2018, 04:13:52 PM »
Ed, seems we're quite a bit alike.

I'm not familiar with the original CM DVR, but I was pretty much unimpressed with the web layout for the new one. Lots of pictures, etc., but didn't give me the details I was looking for (I'm very picky!). However a call to the AZ warehouse got me an instant answer.

Confused - what can a news network stream other than old news - unless you mean current news with the same stories over and over again?  :roll:

Had Sling for a while some time back. Was unhappy with what they offered, something like the huge pile of junk that Dish offers. My Dish guide is set for 6 channels/page. In one section of the guide I can flip through 8 pages of junk before a decent listing returns. 8 * 6 = 48 useless channels just in that one area. Sheesh.

I have a Roku, Amazon Fire Stick, and Apple TV. Why all those? Don't like buying in the dark without trying, regardless of what their ads say.

Went through the cancel Dish nonsense a couple years ago. Wasn't ready at that time to completely cut the cord so they talked me into that Flex (!) pack. Just more junk in a smaller package. Got my channels back by upping the package, but also the price. Their 'discount' quickly expired.

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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #162 on: February 11, 2018, 04:51:05 PM »
<chuckle> Yeah, the streaming "news" are recasts of current news reports.  Kind of like FOX News re-airing news programs from earlier in the day.  I'm just not so sure if they can show live "breaking news" reports.

I'm liking Sling for the sports channels that they offer.  As for the other stuff, I'm not interested...there's enough free content out there to keep me entertained beyond the college ballgames. ;)  ESPN kind of has a corner on the sports market. 

I understand the frustration with *all* the channels that DISH offers.  They make a big deal of 400 channels (or whatever number it is) but lots of them are duplicates with different channel numbers, a bunch of shopping channels, worthless/useless channels, blah, blah.  Then when it comes down to it you might watch ten of them...if that many.  But, you gotta buy the package to get the ones you want.  Rip off.


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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #163 on: February 11, 2018, 04:58:33 PM »
Ed, don't you make custom guides? I've never had issue flipping through channels I won't watch with Dish.
Maybe you need a different DVR. If it's not HD I don't have in custom guides and only channels I watch, which excludes 80% channels.
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #164 on: February 11, 2018, 07:20:32 PM »
I understand the frustration with *all* the channels that DISH offers.  They make a big deal of 400 channels (or whatever number it is) but lots of them are duplicates with different channel numbers, a bunch of shopping channels, worthless/useless channels, blah, blah.  Then when it comes down to it you might watch ten of them...if that many.  But, you gotta buy the package to get the ones you want.  Rip off.
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #165 on: February 11, 2018, 07:30:11 PM »
Ed, don't you make custom guides? I've never had issue flipping through channels I won't watch with Dish.
Maybe you need a different DVR. If it's not HD I don't have in custom guides and only channels I watch, which excludes 80% channels.
My thought is we shouldn't have to do that. The junk shouldn't be there.
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #166 on: February 11, 2018, 07:50:04 PM »
Ed, don't you make custom guides? I've never had issue flipping through channels I won't watch with Dish.
Maybe you need a different DVR. If it's not HD I don't have in custom guides and only channels I watch, which excludes 80% channels.
My thought is we shouldn't have to do that. The junk shouldn't be there.

Most of the channels (less popular) pay Dish to be transmitted. Like QVC the religious channels and all the other junk channels. Even NewsMax was paying based on popularity (viewers) who pays and who receives fees for transmission, it's a big part of how they make money.

Reason I know is another forum I'm on where they talk about how Dish, Directv also tries to keep fees down for subscribers by taking on all these junk channels. Downside is they use bandwidth.

The local Networks (Big 4 and CW) retransmission fees is biggest reason our rates keep going up so much.
Flex package does allow for subs to not get locals and new contracts are being negotiated to not be included in certain popular packages so hopefully it gets better in future for those with antenna option.
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« Reply #167 on: February 11, 2018, 09:59:01 PM »
Yes, the personalized guides helped out.  Your explanation as to why all the "filler" channels are in there makes sense and I know that some of the networks can really hold the satellite service providers' feet to the coals.  But I have several issues with DISH...like continuing to charge me the $10 "HD Fee" for several years *after* they had rolled that feature into the package I was paying for.  Sure, it was my fault for not paying attention to the bill but my wife pays it and has no idea about such things as that (she has plenty to keep up with as it is).  There response to me was that I had to call them about it, they "just couldn't take it off".  I wouldn't have noticed it except I was looking at ways to decrease the DISH bill.  We had a VP622 (I think it was) feeding to televisions, our package was like a 200-channel package along with a generic movie package (not HBO or anything, but like a $5 or $10 package) and we were spending close to $130 a month.  I'm liking our phone bill being down below $100 now including the maxed out   :roll:3Mbps internet.  We have a very limited income now and that money goes straight to our bottom line. ...and we're doing fine without DISH. :) 



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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #168 on: February 11, 2018, 10:15:08 PM »
I remember reading something about ESPN having a big hand in keeping what we pay high. Can't remember exactly what, but if true it just smacks of shysters messing around and the consumer losing again.
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« Reply #169 on: February 11, 2018, 10:29:33 PM »
ESPN, Disney, ABC, A&E networks are all merged so have a lot of pull and definitely a reasons rates keep going up.
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« Reply #170 on: February 11, 2018, 10:43:34 PM »
Yeah, I remember FOX News was off the air for a week or so a few years ago because DISH didn't want to pay them what they were asking for the feed.  I can't remember what happened but FOX News came back on...I guess DISH paid up.

On the topic of the CM Stream+.  Well, when CM came out with the $99 pre-buy on the Stream+ I bought two of them for both of my kids (and for me to tinker with<grin>). I really wanted it to be able to connect to a USB hard drive but I figured with a large Micro-SD card they could get some use out of them. To be honest, I thought CM was on their way to crashing and burning. Ditching the DVR+ before even rolling out the Stream+...that seemed kind of wrong. But then not having the large storage capacity of an inexpensive usb hard drive...that seemed just crazy. It was like CM was getting reading give up the ghost. I still hoped, though.

I got some encouragement tonight, though. Before writing this I went back to CM's website and looked at the specs for the Stream+. On the second page of the Stream+ spec sheets and at the bottom of the "Features" section the last bullet reads: "MicroSD slot for DVR storage, up to 512GB (USB functionality coming soon)".  I don't think that they would have included the mention of the USB functionality in the same bullet point as DVR storage unless the future USB functionality will be for connecting to an external hard drive!!!   It makes sense to me. :)

I may be dreaming, but having the USB hard drive capability is the only storage option that really makes sense. Maybe the ulterior motive was for the Micro-SD slot to be for copying movies and content for easy portability. I don't know, but I'm feeling better about this box now. If it'll hook up to a USB drive it will give TiVo a run for the money.  The tuner on the DVR+ was known to be more sensitive than the TiVo's, though I'm not sure how it stacked up against the Roamio OTA.  It makes me wonder if the "Backorder" situation at TiVo might be them waiting to see what Channel Master does before making their next move. Corporate intrigue...

Just my feeble mind musing over things....
Ed

ETA:  It looks like Channel Master has raised the price up to it's standard price of $149.
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #171 on: February 11, 2018, 11:38:30 PM »
After scrambling around over some forums I've found a copy of supposedly a tweet from CM.  Also, orders placed now will be delivered in April.  Seems there was a good response to the initial pre-buy *and* apparently some last minute changes that are further delaying delivery...maybe finalization on getting USB to work well on an android device??


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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #172 on: February 11, 2018, 11:40:29 PM »

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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #173 on: February 12, 2018, 12:53:38 AM »
Nice that CM is thinking positively but still doesn't fix the OTA only thing for me.
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Re: Anyone joined or thought about Cord Cutting?
« Reply #174 on: February 12, 2018, 08:28:21 AM »
John, I'm a little confused.  We may be looking at two different boxes.  Are you sure you checked out the Stream+ specs?  It has two OTA tuners along with its streaming capabilities. 

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/downloads.channelmaster.com/Sheets/Stream%2B+Spec+Sheet+Jan+9+2018.pdf

(The blue text below is my emphasis. :) )

Features
• 4K, HDR and 3D viewing technology
• Integrated Voice Search
• Two internal ATSC 1.0 tuners
• Works with all TV antennas
• Pause, rewind and record live TV*
• Watch one live program while recording
another*
• Record two live programs at the same time while watching a recorded program or using a streaming service*
• Certified Android™ TV 7.0 Nougat
• Google™ Play store access for streaming services, games and more
• Built in Google™ Cast (Chromecast) functionality
• Subscription-free Live Channels program guide*
• Subscription-free Live Channels DVR*
• Quad-Core processor for high end gaming and running simultaneous apps
• Built in 802.11ac WiFi (Dual Band) and Ethernet
• Dolby Digital and Dolby Digital+ audio support
• MicroSD slot for DVR storage, up to 512GB (USB functionality coming soon)

Hardware
• Quad Core ARM Processor
• 4KP60 UHD 10-bit HEVC
• HDR-10
• SD or HD, Up to 1920 X 1080
• 4kp50-60, UHD Up to 3840x2160 Connections

Connections
• RF Port (ATSC 1.0 Dual Tuner)
• HDMI Port (2.0 with HDCP 2.2)
• Optical Audio Port (SPDIF)
• USB Port ( USB3.0)
• Ethernet Port (10/100BaseT)
• MicroSD Port (Class 4,6,8,10 and UHS I)
• Wireless 2.4 Ghz /5 GHZ WiFi Dual Band 802.11ac
• Bluetooth 4.1

What's Included In The Box
• Stream+
• Quick Start Guide
• IR/Bluetooth/Voice Remote
• 2 AAA Batteries
• Power Supply
• 1 Year Limited Hardware Warranty

Optional Accessories
• 128GB MicroSD Card
• Silicon Remote Control Case
• Game Controller (coming soon)
• HDMI Cord
• Outdoor Antenna**
• Indoor Antenna**

*Requires MicroSD Storage
**Model Dependent on Inventory

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