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#### CW2274

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #350 on: January 07, 2017, 07:03:42 PM »
Farenheit... sometimes I just keep asking myself why

I understand you guys are now used to it, but why in the first place was C not introduced long time ago just like in... just like in any other country

Why because it has more integers and Fahrenheit is superior for measuring temperature precisely.
I made this argument a few weeks ago but fell on deaf metric ears.
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#### Jáchym

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #351 on: January 07, 2017, 07:09:09 PM »
Metric (SI) in general is far easier to work with, if I asked you to do some conversions in imperial I guess I would win if you asked me to for example convert m to km, cm to m, ml to l, g to kg
And yes you are technically right the F scale has more steps, but... when you get down to 0.1 F/C resolution it doesnt really matter because I doubt how accurate this is and how important it is to know the temp down to 0.0X degrees - simply because at this resolution it changes in a matter of seconds.

#### CW2274

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #352 on: January 07, 2017, 07:10:56 PM »
Imperial has character.
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#### Jáchym

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #353 on: January 07, 2017, 07:34:41 PM »
OK, point taken, though rather than character I prefer something that I can easily use without having to get out a calculator

With F/C it is particularly complicated.

Rain is relatively simple:

Accurate estimate:

in -> mm: multiply by 100, divide by 4
mm -> in: divide by 100, multiply by 4

But with C/F.... adding/subtracting 32 and then additionaly multiplying/dividing by 9/5 or 5/9.... probably would take me some time unless I knew both scales

#### Scalphunter

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #354 on: January 07, 2017, 07:48:08 PM »
1.55 x C + 32 = F

(F-32)x .555 = C

Nothing hard  about that now is there.

John

#### WheatonRon

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #355 on: January 07, 2017, 08:22:33 PM »
OK, point taken, though rather than character I prefer something that I can easily use without having to get out a calculator

With F/C it is particularly complicated.

Rain is relatively simple:

Accurate estimate:

in -> mm: multiply by 100, divide by 4
mm -> in: divide by 100, multiply by 4

But with C/F.... adding/subtracting 32 and then additionaly multiplying/dividing by 9/5 or 5/9.... probably would take me some time unless I knew both scales

My simple conversion of centigrade to farenheit is this. C times 2, less 10% of that number, then add 32! In other words, 10C times two is 20, less 10% is 18 then add 32. Answer is 50 F. Not the actual formula but it works to my satisfaction. I have a European car that displays outside temperature in C. Over the years, I have used my formula to tell me what temperature it should feel like to me. Sorry, 10C doesn't tell me whether it is warm or cold outside--yes, Americans can be goofy, but....
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#### Jáchym

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #356 on: January 07, 2017, 08:45:47 PM »
LOL
10C is quite warm, I go by the rule - winter jacket at 0F

Over the last 2 yrs I got used to both, I no longer need to convert it in my head, but it is only like that with T, with regards to pressure for example, I am still only familiar with hPa

#### alexstaar

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #357 on: January 07, 2017, 09:41:38 PM »
Farenheit... sometimes I just keep asking myself why

I understand you guys are now used to it, but why in the first place was C not introduced long time ago just like in... just like in any other country

From my understanding, when the US (or New World) was settled, the founders wanted to be different from the rest of the world. Hence why we have left-hand drive cars, drive on the right-hand side of the road, use imperial units, etc.
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#### PaulMy

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #358 on: January 08, 2017, 01:04:51 PM »
Nothing severe today, at least for us here in Komoka, but the snow squalls continue... http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/index_e.html?prov=son

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#### zackdog

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #359 on: January 09, 2017, 12:49:41 PM »
The ridiculous weather that started in December has returned in January.  Saturday morning -20°F, at 03:21 this morning it was 39.7°F.  The ~six inches of snow that fell yesterday was down to 3.7" when I did my CoCo reading at 07:00.  Also under a winter storm warning calling for an additional 8-14" of snow possible.  Don't think the snow blower or I will like it.  Sure hope they are wrong since the temperature is hanging in the mid thirties.

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#### ValentineWeather

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #360 on: January 09, 2017, 01:09:56 PM »
I find interesting La Nina is bringing more big storms to the west than El Nino did. Dryer in my area but cold.

(15) below zero days since winter begin. First week of Jan. average high (20), Low (-1). Today's  forecast 48. This is coldest time of year historically.
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#### BigOkie

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #361 on: January 09, 2017, 03:28:04 PM »
1.55 x C + 32 = F

(F-32)x .555 = C

Nothing hard  about that now is there.

John

Actually, the multiplier is 1.8, not 1.55.  Especially if you consider freezing = 32F/0C - boiling =212F/100C, difference being 180F over 100C = 1.8.  That's how I measure.  Plus, being a pilot makes it a requirement for me to be able to figure that out in my head in a hurry since METARs use Celsius.  However, METARs also use inHG.  And wind speed in nautical miles per hour/knots.

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#### BigOkie

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #362 on: January 09, 2017, 03:31:30 PM »
Already there is a special weather statement out about a winter storm shaping up this weekend in Oklahoma. It covers all but eastern Oklahoma:

That's likely because the TSA WFO is holding off looking at the GFS model the boundary of the really nasty stuff is right on I-44.  I'm prepping however for a nasty event.  Prepping like December 2007 actually.

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#### cospringswx

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #363 on: January 09, 2017, 03:38:04 PM »
Forecast here is uncertain also. Very windy day here today. I recorded a 54.1 mph gust but at Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Base had a 101mph gust. I-25 is closed for high profile vehicles. Overturned semi's everywhere.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2017, 03:39:43 PM by cospringswx »

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#### Jáchym

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #364 on: January 09, 2017, 09:06:12 PM »
Most of Europe currently well below average, sometimes even breaking alltime low records

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2569119/snow-blizzards-europe-kill-at-least-33-people-arctic-blast-britain/

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More than 20 people are now known to have died as icy temperatures continue to grip much of Europe.
Ten people died of cold in Poland on Sunday. The bodies of three migrants, two Iraqi and one Somali, were found near the Turkish-Bulgarian border.
Deaths have been reported in Italy, the Czech Republic, Russia and Ukraine.
Dozens of flights have been halted. In Turkey, the Bosphorus is closed to shipping after a snowstorm. Even Greece's islands are covered in snow.
In Serbia, all river transport is suspended on the Danube.

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In Russia, temperatures in some regions have plunged below -40C.
Normally milder Greece has witnessed temperatures of -15C in the north, where an Afghan migrant died of cold last week and roads were closed.

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Prague had its coldest night so far this winter, Czech officials say, with six deaths reported, most of them homeless people.

#### Jáchym

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #365 on: January 09, 2017, 09:08:14 PM »
Here is current conditions, you can see the dark area in the central/South/East Europe

#### ValentineWeather

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #366 on: January 09, 2017, 11:55:56 PM »
Coldest air of year currently over Russia.
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#### WeatherHost

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #367 on: January 10, 2017, 08:34:33 AM »
The cold shots have been cold, but brief, only a few days.  Nice warm ups in between that last longer than the cold.

And being about have way through the DJF Winter, it remains to be seen if the second half will retain that pattern.

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#### Jáchym

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #368 on: January 10, 2017, 08:13:27 PM »
The cold Arctic front now divided my country in half - the Western part has temperatures around 0 to 5C (32 to 40 F), while the Eastern part (including my city) has temperatures 25 degrees lower, which is quite a difference if you consider the entire Czech Republic is the size of South Carolina

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #369 on: January 12, 2017, 04:29:00 PM »
ICE STORM WARNING, includes Stillwater.

Areas Affected:
Alfalfa - Blaine - Custer - Dewey - Ellis - Garfield - Grant - Harper - Kay - Kingfisher - Logan - Major - Noble - Payne - Roger Mills - Woods - Woodward
Effective: Thu, 1/12 2:56pm Updated: Thu, 1/12 3:04pm Urgency: Expected
Expires: Sun, 1/15 6:00am Severity: Moderate Certainty: Likely

Details:

...ICE STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM FRIDAY TO 6 AM CST
SUNDAY...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NORMAN HAS ISSUED AN ICE STORM
WARNING...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM FRIDAY TO 6 AM CST SUNDAY.
THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.
* TIMING...EARLY FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH EARLY SUNDAY
* ICE ACCUMULATIONS...ICE ACCUMULATIONS OF ONE-QUARTER TO ONE-
HALF INCH. THE HEAVIEST ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED SATURDAY.
* WINDS...NORTH WIND AROUND 10 MPH
* OTHER IMPACTS...ICE ACCUMULATIONS BY SATURDAY MAY BE ENOUGH TO
CAUSE POWER OUTAGES. BRIDGES... OVERPASSES... AND SECONDARY
ROADS MAY BECOME SLICK AND HAZARDOUS... ESPECIALLY ON FRIDAY
INTO EARLY SATURDAY.

Information:

BE CAREFUL IF YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL. EVEN SMALL AMOUNTS OF ICE CAN MAKE

#### chief-david

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #370 on: January 12, 2017, 05:35:58 PM »
This ice storm in the midwest could have a significant effect on the Chiefs/Steelers playoff game.

The roads could be messy. Fans may or may not be able to get to the game. I know of a few that have put their tix up for sale. (chiefs forum)

The field is heated and will be covered. I doubt the game would be cancelled or moved, but weather will be a factor in the game.
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#### Jáchym

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #371 on: January 12, 2017, 05:40:41 PM »
Today we had one of the worst possible combinations:
- first it snowed heavily almost the entire night
- then it rapidly warmed up and temperature increased substantially above freezing point

The result is that everything is wet, dirty... you know what I mean

This warm period should only be temporary, from Monday the temps are again well below freezing point (around -15C / 5F)

#### chief-david

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #372 on: January 12, 2017, 05:50:06 PM »
This is the thread from Chiefs Planet-I am a member

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#### ValentineWeather

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #373 on: January 12, 2017, 07:11:50 PM »
This is the thread from Chiefs Planet-I am a member

I just hope games are better this week. Last weekend was some of the most dreadful NFL playoff games I can remember.
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#### Aardvark

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##### Re: Winter '16-'17
« Reply #374 on: January 12, 2017, 07:25:04 PM »
We are  bracing for an ice storm Sunday and Monday. Power outages are promised which would piss me off a bit. First I hate freezing rain. I hate falling down because of it and I hate having to scrape the stuff off the car so I can even get in and hit the rear window defroster.   I hate the furnace to stop working because of no electricity as well as the internet is useless.

May it go south.
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