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WU reports success but no data on site
« on: December 03, 2008, 08:38:12 PM »
I have what looks like a Weather Underground (WU) problem with my new system, not a Weather Link (WL) problem like I originally thought.

I have been running the WU plug-in to WL for almost a year on my Vista system without any problems.  Now Iím standing up a small XP system dedicated to the weather station.  I have just finished a clean install of XP Pro SP3 and nothing else but Weather Link, its WU module and the Silicon Labs drivers that make the USB logger look like itís coming in on a serial line.

There is no anti-virus software and only the Windows Firewall enabled.  I have put an exception into the firewall for the WL .exe, but I donít think thatís the issue.

The Davis VP2 and WL are communicating just fine.  Access to the network is just fine.  When I open the WU plug-in and click ďtestĒ (I have verified that my station name and password are correct) I get a success Ė but nothing appears on the WU page for my station.  If I start up rapid fire, it reports success Ė but again nothing appears on the WU page.

So hereís the data point that makes me think this is a WU problem and not WL:  If I change the password for my weather station to something incorrect, clicking ďtestĒ on the WU plug-in fails Ė which of course is a good thing, but...

So it appears that the WU ďhandshakeĒ is happening; my station name and password are verified and accepted and WU is returning success, but thereís no data appearing on the site.

Though I donít think itís the problem, the symptom is as if WU wonít accept data from a machine different than the one that it received the original data from.

Any thoughts?

Roak

Ps.  Please note that I still have WU being updated form my old Vista system until I solve this problem, so clicking on the link below and seeing data does not mean that it's fixed!  Seeing the OS in my signature change to "XP Pro SP3" from "Vista Premium" means I have it fixed! :)
« Last Edit: December 03, 2008, 08:48:43 PM by roakey »
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Re: WU reports success but no data on site
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2008, 09:03:22 PM »
...Though I donít think itís the problem, the symptom is as if WU wonít accept data from a machine different than the one that it received the original data from.  ....

Your Longitude and Latitude settings in WL on the new computer are an exact match to the old one correct?
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Re: WU reports success but no data on site
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 01:42:51 AM »
Your Longitude and Latitude settings in WL on the new computer are an exact match to the old one correct?

Yes, in fact it appears that information is stored in the VP2 console, because the correct settings came up when I initially ran WL on the new machine (if memory serves).

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« Last Edit: December 04, 2008, 01:46:06 AM by roakey »
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Re: WU reports success but no data on site
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2008, 09:02:57 PM »
So I'm to the point that I've installed WireShark on both machines and have captured the HTTP packets that have gone to and from Weather Underground.  They are different, most notably the packet being sent from the machine that doesnít update rapid fire is much longer than the one that works (the longer part is in red).  But even the body of the messages are a little different, like there's windgustmph, windgustmph_10m and windgustdir_10m in the packet that works, and that's not in the packet that doesn't.  And the packet that doesn't work has leaf wetness and other fields that I don't even have sensors for!  Why the differences, I donít know!  Both machines have WeatherLink 5.8.0 installed and the weather underground DLL (I'm not sure if the DLL is the same version, it deosn't report version number anywhere that I can find).  Iím way out of my element here, I know enough to get WireShark up and running and capturing packets, but thatís about the extent of it.  Does anyone see any issues here that are obvious?

For a reminder, no anti-virus software is on the machine that deosn't work, only windows firewall.

So hereís the Vista machine that works:

Vista machine send:

0000  00 16 e3 aa 74 87 00 1e  8c 5c 65 7c 08 00 45 00   ....t... .\e|..E.
0010  01 e7 71 99 40 00 80 06  00 00 c0 a8 58 64 40 f3   ..q.@... ....Xd@.
0020  ae 7d d3 58 00 50 4c 6d  36 61 35 7e ef 7c 50 18   .}.X.PLm 6a5~.|P.
0030  40 29 0a 57 00 00 47 45  54 20 2f 77 65 61 74 68   @).W..GE T /weath
0040  65 72 73 74 61 74 69 6f  6e 2f 75 70 64 61 74 65   erstatio n/update
0050  77 65 61 74 68 65 72 73  74 61 74 69 6f 6e 2e 70   weathers tation.p
0060  68 70 3f 61 63 74 69 6f  6e 3d 75 70 64 61 74 65   hp?actio n=update
0070  72 61 77 26 49 44 3d 4b  43 4f 43 4f 4c 4f 52 39   raw&ID=K COCOLOR9
0080  32 26 50 41 53 53 57 4f  52 44 3d XX XX XX XX XX   2&PASSWO RD=XXXXX
0090  XX XX XX XX 26 64 61 74  65 75 74 63 3d 32 30 30   XXXX&dat eutc=200
00a0  38 2d 31 32 2d 31 33 25  32 30 30 31 3a 30 38 3a   8-12-13% 2001:08:
00b0  33 33 26 77 69 6e 64 64  69 72 3d 38 32 26 77 69   33&windd ir=82&wi
00c0  6e 64 64 69 72 5f 61 76  67 32 6d 3d 38 32 26 77   nddir_av g2m=82&w
00d0  69 6e 64 73 70 65 65 64  6d 70 68 3d 33 26 77 69   indspeed mph=3&wi
00e0  6e 64 67 75 73 74 6d 70  68 3d 32 26 77 69 6e 64   ndgustmp h=2&wind
00f0  67 75 73 74 6d 70 68 5f  31 30 6d 3d 32 26 77 69   gustmph_ 10m=2&wi
0100  6e 64 67 75 73 74 64 69  72 5f 31 30 6d 3d 38 32   ndgustdi r_10m=82
0110  26 68 75 6d 69 64 69 74  79 3d 36 33 26 74 65 6d   &humidit y=63&tem
0120  70 66 3d 33 33 2e 36 26  64 65 77 70 74 66 3d 32   pf=33.6& dewptf=2
0130  32 2e 33 26 72 61 69 6e  69 6e 3d 30 2e 30 30 26   2.3&rain in=0.00&
0140  64 61 69 6c 79 72 61 69  6e 69 6e 3d 30 2e 30 30   dailyrai nin=0.00
0150  26 62 61 72 6f 6d 69 6e  3d 32 39 2e 37 39 26 73   &baromin =29.79&s
0160  6f 66 74 77 61 72 65 74  79 70 65 3d 57 75 6e 64   oftwaret ype=Wund
0170  65 72 67 72 6f 75 6e 64  25 32 30 76 2e 31 2e 31   erground %20v.1.1
0180  35 25 32 30 50 57 53 44  65 63 25 32 30 32 37 25   5%20PWSD ec%2027%
0190  32 30 32 30 30 37 20 48  54 54 50 2f 31 2e 31 0d   202007 H TTP/1.1.
01a0  0a 55 73 65 72 2d 41 67  65 6e 74 3a 20 77 78 65   .User-Ag ent: wxe
01b0  78 0d 0a 48 6f 73 74 3a  20 77 65 61 74 68 65 72   x..Host:  weather
01c0  73 74 61 74 69 6f 6e 2e  77 75 6e 64 65 72 67 72   station. wundergr
01d0  6f 75 6e 64 2e 63 6f 6d  0d 0a 43 61 63 68 65 2d   ound.com ..Cache-
01e0  43 6f 6e 74 72 6f 6c 3a  20 6e 6f 2d 63 61 63 68   Control:  no-cach
01f0  65 0d 0a 0d 0a                                     e....           

Response (rapid fire is updated):

0000  00 1e 8c 5c 65 7c 00 16  e3 aa 74 87 08 00 45 20   ...\e|.. ..t...E
0010  00 82 a8 6e 00 00 32 06  d7 6a 40 f3 ae 7d c0 a8   ...n..2. .j@..}..
0020  58 64 00 50 d3 58 35 7e  ef 7c 4c 6d 38 20 50 18   Xd.P.X5~ .|Lm8 P.
0030  00 08 14 8c 00 00 48 54  54 50 2f 31 2e 30 20 32   ......HT TP/1.0 2
0040  30 30 20 4f 4b 0d 0a 43  6f 6e 74 65 6e 74 2d 74   00 OK..C ontent-t
0050  79 70 65 3a 20 74 65 78  74 2f 68 74 6d 6c 0d 0a   ype: tex t/html..
0060  43 6f 6e 74 65 6e 74 2d  4c 65 6e 67 74 68 3a 20   Content- Length:
0070  38 0d 0a 43 6f 6e 6e 65  63 74 69 6f 6e 3a 20 63   8..Conne ction: c
0080  6c 6f 73 65 0d 0a 0d 0a  73 75 63 63 65 73 73 0a   lose.... success.

And hereís the XP machine that doesnít work:

XP machine send:

0000  00 16 e3 aa 74 87 00 1c  c0 5d 7c ea 08 00 45 00   ....t... .]|...E.
0010  03 5b 00 1b 40 00 80 06  ef 01 c0 a8 58 67 40 f3   .[..@... ....Xg@.
0020  ae 7d 04 09 00 50 42 d7  19 af 9c 79 b6 b4 50 18   .}...PB. ...y..P.
0030  ff ff 0b ce 00 00 47 45  54 20 2f 77 65 61 74 68   ......GE T /weath
0040  65 72 73 74 61 74 69 6f  6e 2f 75 70 64 61 74 65   erstatio n/update
0050  77 65 61 74 68 65 72 73  74 61 74 69 6f 6e 2e 70   weathers tation.p
0060  68 70 3f 61 63 74 69 6f  6e 3d 75 70 64 61 74 65   hp?actio n=update
0070  72 61 77 26 49 44 3d 4b  43 4f 43 4f 4c 4f 52 39   raw&ID=K COCOLOR9
0080  32 26 50 41 53 53 57 4f  52 44 3d XX XX XX XX XX   2&PASSWO RD=XXXXX
0090  XX XX XX XX 26 64 61 74  65 75 74 63 3d 32 30 30   XXXX&dat eutc=200
00a0  38 2d 31 32 2d 31 32 25  32 30 30 31 3a 33 35 3a   8-12-12% 2001:35:
00b0  31 34 26 77 69 6e 64 64  69 72 3d 30 26 77 69 6e   14&windd ir=0&win
00c0  64 64 69 72 5f 61 76 67  32 6d 3d 33 36 30 26 77   ddir_avg 2m=360&w
00d0  69 6e 64 73 70 65 65 64  6d 70 68 3d 30 26 68 75   indspeed mph=0&hu
00e0  6d 69 64 69 74 79 3d 30  26 74 65 6d 70 66 3d 30   midity=0 &tempf=0
00f0  2e 30 26 64 65 77 70 74  66 3d 2d 33 32 37 36 38   .0&dewpt f=-32768
0100  2e 30 26 72 61 69 6e 69  6e 3d 30 2e 30 30 26 73   .0&raini n=0.00&s
0110  6f 69 6c 74 65 6d 70 66  3d 2d 39 30 26 73 6f 69   oiltempf =-90&soi
0120  6c 6d 6f 69 73 74 75 72  65 3d 30 26 6c 65 61 66   lmoistur e=0&leaf
0130  77 65 74 6e 65 73 73 3d  30 26 73 6f 6c 61 72 72   wetness= 0&solarr
0140  61 64 69 61 74 69 6f 6e  3d 30 26 55 56 3d 30 2e   adiation =0&UV=0.
0150  30 26 64 61 69 6c 79 72  61 69 6e 69 6e 3d 30 2e   0&dailyr ainin=0.
0160  30 30 26 62 61 72 6f 6d  69 6e 3d 30 2e 30 30 26   00&barom in=0.00&
0170  73 6f 66 74 77 61 72 65  74 79 70 65 3d 57 75 6e   software type=Wun
0180  64 65 72 67 72 6f 75 6e  64 25 32 30 76 2e 31 2e   dergroun d%20v.1.
0190  31 35 25 32 30 50 57 53  44 65 63 25 32 30 32 37   15%20PWS Dec%2027
01a0  25 32 30 32 30 30 37 20  48 54 54 50 2f 31 2e 31   %202007  HTTP/1.1
01b0  0d 0a 55 73 65 72 2d 41  67 65 6e 74 3a 20 77 78   ..User-A gent: wx
01c0  65 78 0d 0a 48 6f 73 74  3a 20 77 65 61 74 68 65   ex..Host : weathe
01d0  72 73 74 61 74 69 6f 6e  2e 77 75 6e 64 65 72 67   rstation .wunderg
01e0  72 6f 75 6e 64 2e 63 6f  6d 0d 0a 43 61 63 68 65   round.co m..Cache
01f0  2d 43 6f 6e 74 72 6f 6c  3a 20 6e 6f 2d 63 61 63   -Control : no-cac
0200  68 65 0d 0a 43 6f 6f 6b  69 65 3a 20 44 54 3d 31   he..Cook ie: DT=1
0210  32 32 39 31 30 35 39 35  37 3a 38 39 38 35 3a 6c   22910595 7:8985:l
0220  33 61 31 38 3b 20 5f 5f  71 63 61 3d 31 32 32 39   3a18; __ qca=1229
0230  31 30 35 39 35 39 2d 37  36 32 37 30 33 31 38 2d   105959-7 6270318-
0240  33 32 33 32 38 33 31 32  3b 20 5f 5f 75 74 6d 61   32328312 ; __utma
0250  3d 32 30 33 35 36 39 34  33 30 2e 38 31 38 35 36   =2035694 30.81856
0260  31 37 39 38 2e 31 32 32  39 30 31 39 35 32 34 2e   1798.122 9019524.
0270  31 32 32 39 30 31 39 35  32 34 2e 31 32 32 39 30   12290195 24.12290
0280  32 30 30 32 39 2e 32 3b  20 5f 5f 75 74 6d 7a 3d   20029.2;  __utmz=
0290  32 30 33 35 36 39 34 33  30 2e 31 32 32 39 30 31   20356943 0.122901
02a0  39 35 32 35 2e 31 2e 31  2e 75 74 6d 63 73 72 3d   9525.1.1 .utmcsr=
02b0  28 64 69 72 65 63 74 29  7c 75 74 6d 63 63 6e 3d   (direct) |utmccn=
02c0  28 64 69 72 65 63 74 29  7c 75 74 6d 63 6d 64 3d   (direct) |utmcmd=
02d0  28 6e 6f 6e 65 29 3b 20  41 78 44 61 74 61 3d 3b   (none);  AxData=;
02e0  20 45 6d 61 69 6c 43 6f  6f 6b 69 65 3d 72 6f 61    EmailCo okie=roa
02f0  6b 65 79 25 34 30 75 6e  64 65 72 63 74 65 6b 2e   key%40un derctek.
0300  63 6f 6d 3b 20 45 6d 61  69 6c 41 75 74 68 3d 31   com; Ema ilAuth=1
0310  39 33 38 39 35 38 3b 20  4e 6f 41 64 73 43 6f 6f   938958;  NoAdsCoo
0320  6b 69 65 3d 30 31 30 64  30 63 34 64 36 34 32 35   kie=010d 0c4d6425
0330  33 61 32 31 37 66 36 63  37 62 37 39 37 62 32 64   3a217f6c 7b797b2d
0340  30 39 35 38 34 65 35 38  30 62 3b 20 50 57 53 49   09584e58 0b; PWSI
0350  44 53 3d 33 39 34 36 35  37 3a 4b 43 4f 43 4f 4c   DS=39465 7:KCOCOL
0360  4f 52 39 32 7c 0d 0a 0d  0a                        OR92|... .       


Response (rapid fire isn't updated):

0000  00 1c c0 5d 7c ea 00 16  e3 aa 74 87 08 00 45 20   ...]|... ..t...E
0010  00 82 c9 2b 00 00 32 06  b6 aa 40 f3 ae 7d c0 a8   ...+..2. ..@..}..
0020  58 67 00 50 04 09 9c 79  b6 b4 42 d7 1c e2 50 18   Xg.P...y ..B...P.
0030  1c cb bd b6 00 00 48 54  54 50 2f 31 2e 30 20 32   ......HT TP/1.0 2
0040  30 30 20 4f 4b 0d 0a 43  6f 6e 74 65 6e 74 2d 74   00 OK..C ontent-t
0050  79 70 65 3a 20 74 65 78  74 2f 68 74 6d 6c 0d 0a   ype: tex t/html..
0060  43 6f 6e 74 65 6e 74 2d  4c 65 6e 67 74 68 3a 20   Content- Length:
0070  38 0d 0a 43 6f 6e 6e 65  63 74 69 6f 6e 3a 20 63   8..Conne ction: c
0080  6c 6f 73 65 0d 0a 0d 0a  73 75 63 63 65 73 73 0a   lose.... success.

Anyone got any ideas as to what's gonig on?

Roak
« Last Edit: December 12, 2008, 09:04:31 PM by roakey »
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Re: WU reports success but no data on site
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2008, 10:14:33 PM »
..But even the body of the messages are a little different, like there's windgustmph, windgustmph_10m and windgustdir_10m in the packet that works, and that's not in the packet that doesn't.  And the packet that doesn't work has leaf wetness and other fields that I don't even have sensors for!....

In WL Station Configuration, you do have it set for the correct station and none of the additional sensors checked?


Sorry to keep asking the basic type questions.  I just have a feeling this might be one of those "can't see the forest for all the trees" type of issues that we all run into from time to time.   ;)
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Problem has gone away... I hate when that happens...
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2008, 04:37:27 PM »
Sorry to keep asking the basic type questions.  I just have a feeling this might be one of those "can't see the forest for all the trees" type of issues that we all run into from time to time.   ;)
Finally, an update...

I don't mind you asking, for whatever reason it's become a side job of mine to troubleshoot other developer's problems at my work (HP) -- I don't know how many times I've handled "It stopped working this morning"-type problems, with the first question from me being "what did you change this morning?" with the always-predictable response of "Nothing", to which (for example) my next question is "So how long have you been running this weird firewall that you're not supposed to be running on this system?" to which the answer is typically "Oh, I installed that this morning..." :(

Yhea, didn't change anything, right.  So I understand you asking! :)

Ok, so I have the second-worst possible news on this problem Ė it now works and I donít know why.

I havenít had a chance to reply because I reworked my entire office, moved machines around, moved where systems are on the network (I have a wired network in the house) and just about tore my whole PC and network infrastructure apart and put it back together (I had wanted to get the weather PC up and running before this project so I wouldnít be off the air during it, but three or more weeks of the reporting problem put the kibosh on that goal).  During the project I put the weather PC on the shelf until I was finished.

Finally got around to hooking the weather PC back up in its new home in the living room at which point it worked!  I hate when broken things start to work and you donít know why, because theyíll almost always bite you at a later dateÖ :(

I did five things between when it wasnít working and now: I renamed the weather PC, I installed AVG free anti-virus and Windows Defender, moved where the PC was physically connected to the network and took the batteries out of the Davis VP2 console for about a week or two Ė I didnít change any of my WL 5.8.0 settings or nuttn.  So my only theory is that there may have been a name conflict (same computer name in the same workgroup, which is why I renamed the machine) which caused the problems, but thatís a pretty weird problem to have from a name conflict.  Other than that, there isnít anything that I did that I would have any effect on WU reporting, at least in my opinion...

So anyways, Iím up and running and reporting, and ready to start on a web page.  I thank you all for the help, I wish I could solidly point to one issue and say that was the problem, but unfortunately I canít.

I do note that there is already a min-ITX thread established Ė this is exactly what my weather PC is based upon, so Iíll be doing some replying in there Ė my entire weather station PC is the same size as an external optical drive!

Maybe see some of you in the other thread!  Again, thanks.

Roak

Ps.  We had record-breaking cold temps and winds during the time I was off the air and I donít even have a log :(
« Last Edit: December 25, 2008, 06:18:13 PM by roakey »
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2008, 11:02:30 PM »
Glad to hear that it is working!  Hopefully you really fixed it without trying and it will stay that way. 
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