Vantage Vue Versions

[raedh]

I was checking the features of vantage vue and read a point that said

US version.  Proudly Made In The USA - Designed for use in the USA (from scientificsales)

does that mean if I take this station overseas for example (east mediterranean) will not work ?

[DanS]

I believe they are referring to the wireless frequencies that are used.  U.S. and overseas permit different frequencies to be used. It would work in other countries but possibly not allowed.
(plus the AC power adapter would need to be changed).

[raedh]

current i have ws-5300 433Mhz , does vantage vue use the same frequency ?

[tommyr]

current i have ws-5300 433Mhz , does vantage vue use the same frequency ?

The vue uses 902 - 928 Mhz in the U.S.

I'm new here today, got my Vue on order, hopefully it comes this week!

[dalecoy]

To be more complete: the Vue is available in four versions:

    US (United States): Some products do not include all features listed.
        Units of Measure: Data is reported in US standard units.
        Data Transmission: For products that use wireless radio data transmission, US version uses US radio frequency from 902 to 928 MHz. If product
            transmits  data via cellular connection, the included SIM is for use in the USA only and requires a US Service Plan.
        Rain Data: For products that report rain data, the rain collector is calibrated to 0.01 inch.
        Electrical Power Supply: Units shipped with an electrical power supply will have a US power adapter.

    USM (United States, metric): Some products do not include all features listed.
        Units of Measure: Data is reported in Metric units.
        Data Transmission: For products that use wireless radio data transmission, USM version uses US radio frequency from 902 to 928 MHz. If product
              transmits data via cellular connection, the included SIM is for use in the USA only and requires a US Service Plan.
        Rain Data: For products that report rain data, the rain collector is calibrated to 0.2mm.
        Electrical Power Supply: Units shipped with an electrical power supply will have a US power adapter.

    UK (United Kingdom): Some products do not include all features listed. Not available for use/purchase within the USA.
        Units of Measure: Data is reported in Metric units.
        Data Transmission: For products that use wireless radio data transmission, UK version uses UK radio frequency 868 MHz. If product transmits data via
                 cellular connection, the included SIM is not for use in the USA and may be restricted to specific countries.
        Rain Data: For products that report rain data, the rain collector is calibrated to 0.2mm.
        Electrical Power Supply: Units shipped with an electrical power supply will have a UK power adapter.

    EU (Europe): Some products do not include all features listed. Not available for use/purchase within the USA.
        Units of Measure: Data is reported in Metric units.
        Data Transmission: For products that use wireless radio data transmission, EU version uses EU radio frequency 868 MHz. If product transmits data via
                cellular connection, the included SIM is not for use in the USA and may be restricted to specific countries.
        Rain Data: For products that report rain data, the rain collector is calibrated to 0.2mm.
        Electrical Power Supply: Units shipped with an electrical power supply will have a Euro power adapter.

[dalecoy]

does that mean if I take this station overseas for example (east mediterranean) will not work ?

In other words, it will work, although the AC adapter won't plug in to the local socket, and it will be operating on (probably) "illegal" frequencies in whatever east med area you're located in.   

[raedh]

thanks for helpfull replies, going to call local authority and ask about it

[raedh]

other concer about vantage vue , for mounting pole that sold separately, if i have a PVC pipe with 1.5 inches diameter can I use it , or is a must to buy the optional mounting pole

[hayskswx]

I wouldn't use PVC pipe. I have a vue and went to the local home depot and got a 1.25 in emt pipe.

[tommyr]

I wouldn't use PVC pipe. I have a vue and went to the local home depot and got a 1.25 in emt pipe.

I bought a 1" diameter 10 foot length of electric conduit. $8 at Home Depot. Strong stuff! It awaits mt Vue to arrive!

[raedh]

thanks , hayskstornado , do you the max diameter can be used for the vue mounting pole?

[dalecoy]

thanks for helpfull replies, going to call local authority and ask about it

What location?  Depending on the situation, the "local authority" may not know the answer. 

[raedh]

The location is "Jordan"

[dalecoy]

For what it's worth:

20th Feb 2011

­Omnitele says that it has been awarded a contract by the Jordanian telecoms regulator for radio frequency management in Jordan. As a part of the project, Omnitele will create new regulation for the liberalisation of a number of licensed bands in the radio spectrum.

This will include a structure for frequency license renewal fees and possible compensation, a re-farming process for some of the bands, and procedures for the grant of new spectrum licenses.

[raedh]

I just asked a one of ex-telecom employees and he said this frequency is old and no more be used and here only there are 3 frequencies ranges are illegal for public and private use , and tomorrow i will get more clear answer but anyways seems it is permitted to use , thanks dalecoy appreciate your kind help

[hayskswx]

thanks , hayskstornado , do you the max diameter can be used for the vue mounting pole?

Any diameter between 1-1.5 in will be fine I just went in the middle. Your going to love the vue it's wonderful.

[archae86]

if i have a PVC pipe with 1.5 inches diameter can I use it , or is a must to buy the optional mounting pole

While you certainly don't need to use the Davis mounting pole, I'd not suggest PVC.  When I got started, I thought I'd use two ten foot lengths of 1.5 inch nominal Schedule 40 PVC (which is about 1.8 inch actual outside diameter, and only just barely fits the Davis mounting), as I very impressed by how stiff and strong a four foot piece in my garage seemed.

Well, that was a totally unsuitable bending mess, which I was barely able to get in place on my roof, and even with guy wires seemed very unsatisfactory.  I shortened it to about 15 feet, and found setup easier, but it still was not very stable at all.  One issue is that as sun hit it, the shape would change  (PVC does that a lot--not sure how much is actual expansion and how much is loss of strength under heat).  Not learning my lesson very quickly, I tried a yet shorter piece of Schedule 80, and still was not happy.

Once I switched to 1/8 inch wall thickness 1.5 inch external diameter aluminum, in my case extending about nine feet above ground and 2.5 feet below ground, with guy wires, I finally found I had a very stable (probably overdesigned) installation.  Were it not for neighbor problems, I could make it a lot higher without trouble.

PVC is more flexible in long lengths than you might think from short lengths.  And it does not like either sun or heat.  Keep it underground carrying water--it is quite good at that.

[raedh]

archae86 , thanks for sharing your experience , for that I looked on my basement and found about a 10 feet length steel pipe about half inch diameter and actually looks more stable than PVC and going to use it 

[raedh]

Just got a reply from telecommunication regulatory commission the 902-928 MHz is forbidden , if it is 433 Mhz or 868 Mhz there is no problem , are there vantage vue within these ranges


thanks

[johnd]

The situation regarding Vue and frequency compatibility is pretty clear I think. For North America (and parts of S America) the US specification in the 900MHz range holds. For most of the rest of the world (with one or two exceptions like Australia) then it's the OV/EU/UK versions that are legal, all of which run at 868MHz - the only differences between them being in mains power adapter and default units setting (though the vast majority I suspect are metric).

[Andy Thompson]

I've always wondered, when Davis came out with the Vue a couple years ago, were they using the same frequency as the Vantage Pro2s?

[johnd]

I've always wondered, when Davis came out with the Vue a couple years ago, were they using the same frequency as the Vantage Pro2s?

As their full names suggest, VP2 and Vue are both members of the Davis Vantage family and hence use identical wireless protocols. So you can, for example, readily receive a Vue ISS on a VP2 wireless console or vice versa (there are obviously limitations as to exactly which transmitter types a Vue console can receive, ie ISS and 6332 only, but these are limitations of the Vue console design and not of the wireless protocol).

[dalecoy]

does that mean if I take this station overseas for example (east mediterranean) will not work ?

In other words, it will work, although the AC adapter won't plug in to the local socket, and it will be operating on (probably) "illegal" frequencies in whatever east med area you're located in.   

I just asked a one of ex-telecom employees and he said this frequency is old and no more be used and here only there are 3 frequencies ranges are illegal for public and private use , and tomorrow i will get more clear answer but anyways seems it is permitted to use , thanks dalecoy appreciate your kind help

Just got a reply from telecommunication regulatory commission the 902-928 MHz is forbidden , if it is 433 Mhz or 868 Mhz there is no problem , are there vantage vue within these ranges


thanks

Yes, there is a model of the Vue in the 868 MHz range.  See my long reply that I posted in response to your question earlier.

[DaculaWeather]

I've always wondered, when Davis came out with the Vue a couple years ago, were they using the same frequency as the Vantage Pro2s?

So I can use a wireless anemometer with my Vue console, that's why! 

[dalecoy]

I've always wondered, when Davis came out with the Vue a couple years ago, were they using the same frequency as the Vantage Pro2s?

In addition to the big advantage of interoperability that johnd  and DaculaWeather described:

A.  Those are the frequencies that are allocated by international treaty and FCC regulations for this general type of service; and

B.  The circuitry and firmware was already designed; and

C.  Why not?