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« on: March 19, 2012, 04:12:25 PM »

Not really worth it for personal websites/weather websites, but maybe some of the commercial websites that people run from this forum could chime in. 
What you think?  Worth the expense?  I'm leaning towards no.  Not only because of initial start up costs (couple grand), but the monthly investment to keep your site on the 1st page of organic listings.  Seems kinda scammy. I could be wrong though.
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 10:51:58 PM »

I can't see any need for it most of the time, a good webmaster should be able to get their site pretty high up anyway. If someone wants what your site offers then there shouldn't be any problems with finding your site because it will contain the phrases related to what the user wanted. If you are paying for SEO chances are a lot of the visitors that come to your site don't actually want the content you have but came their purely because the search engine said it had what they wanted when it didn't.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2012, 12:36:39 AM »

Your money will most likely finance link spamming on forums such as this one.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2012, 08:27:52 AM »

It just takes a little time. Yes, you can pay someone to get more ads out on the internet and that will help jumpstart your traffic, but not the kind of money you're talking about.
Here's some good tips for optimizing your site to get more traffic. http://www.searchenginejournal.com/55-quick-seo-tips-even-your-mother-would-love/6760/
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 09:41:41 PM »

Thanks all for your replies.  I'm getting bombarded by these guys.  Must be current fad in online marketing....
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 10:00:17 PM »

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Are they from india by chance?  I got those a lot, then I blocked their subnet

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 11:54:09 PM »

I was getting a lot on another website I run, I kept replying saying that they were breeching the CAN-SPAM act because they'd send one email, i'd reply No. then they'd send another saying they were awaiting my reply. I tried replying yes once but they didn't reply to that.

Then I blocked them
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 07:09:35 PM »

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Are they from india by chance?  I got those a lot, then I blocked their subnet

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I get those emails, but most are cold calls to my business.  People that want to come out and talk to me and show me how we can be higher in the organic listings.  I get calls at least 3 times a week.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2012, 10:48:49 AM »

I'll start by saying this is in no way, shape or form trying to solicit business. I do not represent any business or company. It's only to try and help a fellow member. With that said...

Being a search marketing specialist (SEO'er), I have to say that there are a lot of companies out there that poorly represent the industry. In general, the ones that reach out to you are likely garbage. Not all are bad and not all are as expensive. Typically, the more competitive the industry, the more time and resources it will take to rank well therefore, costing more money.

A few answers can help you decide if it's worth it for you or not:
  • What is the goal of your website? Are you looking to make money with it? Is it for informational purposes only? If you are using Adsense or offering advertising space, traffic and eyes on your site will be very important. Same holds true if you are an affiliate. If you are looking to make money from it, you need to determine if the money you will be making can justify the cost of paying for someone to manage an SEO campaign or you spending the man hours doing it yourself. How many conversions will it take for you to pay for the SEO? (in terms of time or paying someone) How much more money will the site need to earn before you make a profit?
  • You have to pick 2 of the 3... Time, money or results? SEO is something you CAN do on your own. It will require a fair amount of time to learn the correct way to do it, then apply it than wait for the results as it's not an overnight process. If you don't have the time, you need to spend money on someone else or another company doing it for you. 99.9999998% of people want results. Now you need to decide if you have the time to allocate towards learning or the wallet to pay a 3rd party.
 
SEO CAN be done by you. Finding and learning from a trusted resource (like the one Dacula shared, SEOmoz, High Rankings) is essential IMO. Many SEO people still do not know the correct way to optimize a site. They are still stuck in the late 90's with their spammy, dodgy tactics such as keyword stuffing, getting links from directories, etc. Google has been on a quest to deliver quality results to their searchers so the old back door tricks are not working anymore. They are trimming the fat and seeking quality websites to share with searchers.

Overall, you should strive to make your website a viable, solid resource. Earning natural links (think of this as votes for your site.. Site A links to Site B because they like your information) from high authority sites will help you achieve higher rankings. To maintain those rankings, you need to keep your content fresh, unique and updated so new websites want to link to your content.

Unfortunately, its not as easy as it sounds. Knowing how to code your website properly is only part of it. The off-site activities (link building, social media, picture websites, etc.) is where most of your time, money and effort should be spent.

Hope this helps and good luck!
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2012, 09:41:28 AM »

I work for the worlds best and oldest internet company, SEO is a science and very difficult to master. It has takes months to achieve the results that I could have accomplished by simply subscribing to a basic SEO solution. Check it out at www.TheWeatherPatrol.com
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 11:03:21 PM »

Continue to provide information and content that people are interested in. Get on Facebook if you haven't already. Social media sites including Twitter are big attention grabbers for weather related sites. Analyzing your data with Google Analytics, Google Webmaster Tools and the likes will help you to see what type of content is attracting visits and how long visitors are spending on your pages. When you are able to distinguish what type of content attracts visitors, build on it.

Think of your visitors and how they will portray your site. One thing to remember, PageRank (Google Rank) has no relevance to earning rankings in Google's search results. Just because a site has a PageRank of 4 or 5 does not mean it will out rank a site that has a PageRank of 1 or 2. Test, analyze, repeat.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2012, 07:29:49 AM »

I was getting a lot on another website I run, I kept replying saying that they were breeching the CAN-SPAM act because they'd send one email, i'd reply No. then they'd send another saying they were awaiting my reply. I tried replying yes once but they didn't reply to that.

Then I blocked them
I never reply to any unwanted / spam emails. That just confirms to the sender (spammer) that your email address is active and there is a real person there. This encourages them and I wouldn't be surprised if one of those $0.50 per day sweat shops pulls together a database of live email addresses to sell to other spamming sweatshops.
About a year ago someone in the Philippines was using a contact page I had to send spam. I blocked his IP. Then it moved to another IP and another until now the entire Philippine country is blocked.
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