WXforum.net
May 19, 2013, 11:35:35 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Members: 6609  •  Posts: 178310  •  Topics: 18104
Please welcome TargY, our newest member.
Welcome to the the new hosting for WXforum.net.
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: 1 ... 5 6 [7]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Rumors about a new VP2 firmware blocking 3rd party dataloggers?  (Read 10884 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
torkelmj
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 28



« Reply #150 on: March 04, 2013, 02:37:33 PM »

That came out so wrong. I'd not at all intend to indicate that johnd works for Davis Instruments. Please accept my sincere apologies.
Logged
dalecoy
Forecaster
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3479


WWW
« Reply #151 on: March 04, 2013, 06:23:56 PM »

I believe you're referring to postings made by johnd, who is not (AFAIK) a spokesman for Davis.  He was quoting what Davis had told him.  I am personally grateful for those postings, because otherwise we would not have any communications.

Wrong. Not unless he's one of the guys answering from the support(at)davisnet.com email address - under a different name.
The above statements came from that address, being just another example of meaningless corporate communications. The "reliability" (not really) and "enhancements" (not really) statements were made in two email messages received from the mentioned support address. d'oh!


OK, please post the complete emails.
Logged
torkelmj
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 28



« Reply #152 on: March 05, 2013, 05:03:28 AM »

I'd rather post an excerpt with the essential stuff - edited to make sense when reading from the top and leaving out the name of the helpful support representative:

>> (...) has been updated for greater reliability and to provide for future enhancements.

> Does the above imply that there are reliability issues with FW v. 1.90? If so, anything to be aware of?
> Also, are there plans of future enhancements not included in present consoles - dictating that we should
> await further enhancements before ordering our stations?

(...) There are no known reliability issues with 1.90, we are always updating the design and hardware
on our stations to keep up with current technology. At this point there are no plans for future
enhancements to our stations.
Logged
dalecoy
Forecaster
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 3479


WWW
« Reply #153 on: March 05, 2013, 10:27:41 AM »

I'd rather post an excerpt with the essential stuff - edited to make sense when reading from the top and leaving out the name of the helpful support representative:

>> (...) has been updated for greater reliability and to provide for future enhancements.

> Does the above imply that there are reliability issues with FW v. 1.90? If so, anything to be aware of?
> Also, are there plans of future enhancements not included in present consoles - dictating that we should
> await further enhancements before ordering our stations?

(...) There are no known reliability issues with 1.90, we are always updating the design and hardware
on our stations to keep up with current technology. At this point there are no plans for future
enhancements to our stations.


Why do you conclude:

And what to make out of the crap that the Davis rep. served on a silver plate?
...
Just another sad example of damned lies being served to customers.

1.  You asked about reliability of firmware 1.90 and got an apparently-correct answer.  You didn't ask about reliability of console hardware.

2.  You asked (implied) if customers should quit buying current hardware and were told 'no'.  What would you expect Davis to announce?

3.  You were also told that there are internal changes to the console hardware.  Do you have some reason to believe that's a lie?

Of course, we might make other/additional assumptions about Davis' reasons.  And we can easily observe and criticize that Davis has not publicly told the entire situation (compatibility, updates/downgrades, etc.).  Lots of omissions of information.  Lots of opportunities to jump to conclusions.

I just don't personally see any "crap" or "damned lies".

[Please note that I don't consider myself to be a "Davis fanboy", and that I said from the "green dot" beginning that Davis was creating a support disaster]
Logged
rdsman
Senior Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 57



« Reply #154 on: April 27, 2013, 12:48:45 PM »

Today I updated my Vantage Vue to firmware version 3.0.  My Vue is a Model Number 6250 with a Manufacturing Code of F120131D039.  Below are the steps that I performed:

I first connected a non-Davis USB interface adapter which appears as COM18 and verified communications using Hyperterm.  I powered down the Vue.  I then disconnected this and installed the Davis "Green Dot" USB logger which appears as COM11 and again verified communications.

I downloaded the DirectFromPC_Vue_3_00.exe file from the Davis website.  I attempted to run it on two different PC's (Windows XP, SP3) and all I could get was "Problem opening communications port!"  During this, I noticed that if you were using a real Serial port, the Davis firmware updater would only allow ports COM1 thru COM9.  So using Device Manager, I reconfigured the Davis logger to appear as COM1.  I then successfully updated to version 3.0. and verified communications with Hyperterm.

I powered down the Vue and reconnected the non-Davis USB adapter and powered it back up.  I was able to run the following commands:

TEST - worked.
STRMON - worked.
STRMOFF - worked.
NVER - returned 3.0.
VER - returned May 1, 2012.

Does the fact that I used a Davis logger to update the firmware change anything, I don't know.



Logged
johnd
Forecaster
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1232


WWW
« Reply #155 on: April 27, 2013, 01:13:09 PM »

Today I updated my Vantage Vue to firmware version 3.0...

So, I think the only 'issue' you're flagging up here is one about compatibility of the firmware updater utility with COM port numbers higher than COM9?

The Vue console you're updating was a non-green-dot one and so there would not have been expected to be any issues either with updating it to v3.00 or using alternative loggers/interfaces.

Am I missing something?

(Incidentally, our latest batch of WL loggers no longer have green dots on the packs - I think Davis have discontinued them on all packs (ie consoles and loggers). There's been no change of hardware or firmware specification AFAIK, so henceforth it will presumably be necessary to use the logger Mfg Codes to check for compatibility.)
« Last Edit: April 27, 2013, 01:27:23 PM by johnd » Logged
rdsman
Senior Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 57



« Reply #156 on: April 28, 2013, 09:57:15 AM »

Just sharing my experience.  I'll be happy to refrain from doing so...........

Logged
johnd
Forecaster
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1232


WWW
« Reply #157 on: April 28, 2013, 10:03:24 AM »

Just sharing my experience.  I'll be happy to refrain from doing so...........

Sorry - please continue to do so - didn't mean to imply otherwise. The problem is that there's so much confusion around various combinations of loggers and console (green-dot and otherwise), firmware versions, alternative loggers/adapters etc that it's very helpful if posts can highlight the particular point that they're making. I was just trying to summarise to make sure that I'd understood the post accurately.
Logged
rdsman
Senior Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 57



« Reply #158 on: April 29, 2013, 12:57:41 PM »

Sorry, I guess I just read it wrong!

Logged
Intheswamp
Senior Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 87



« Reply #159 on: April 30, 2013, 11:30:58 AM »

 Neutral  Hmmm...  I'm considering buying my first station and have been drooling over the Davis units even though the added expense of the dongle/logger cable has me cocking my head sideways.  Now I'm seeing some controversy regarding an apparent firmware update and the expensive logger.  Since I will be buying "new" should this controversy be a problem for me?  Could/would it likely happen again in a year or two from now?   Is Davis responding to the problem in a positive way?

It's just kinda unsettling to read some of this when I'm thinking about forking over a wad of cash for one of these.  Confused

Thanks,
Ed
Logged
Old Tele man
Senior Contributor
****
Online Online

Posts: 283


WWW
« Reply #160 on: April 30, 2013, 12:29:58 PM »

Maybe this fact will help 'sooth' your fear(s): There are businesses who sell DAVIS™ systems for much less than the MSRP.
Logged

• SYS: Davis VP2/WL-IP & Envoy8X/WL-USB
• CWOP: DW6988 - Cortaro, AZ
• WU: KAZTUCSO202 - Countryside Homes 
Intheswamp
Senior Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 87



« Reply #161 on: April 30, 2013, 06:42:45 PM »

You're right, Old Tele man, the selling prices and listed prices are (thankfully) two different things.  Still, it's a chunk of change...at least to me it is.  Smile

Ed
Logged
JACK10562
Forecaster
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 367


DW5051


WWW
« Reply #162 on: April 30, 2013, 07:55:02 PM »

Make sure you search for a "low-price quote" from whichever distributor you decide to purchase through. It can save you hundreds.
Logged

CWOP:DW5051
MADIS ID:D5051
WU:KMAEASTH4
CoCoRaHS:MA-BA-23
DavisVantagePro2Plus#6163
Cumulus 1.9.3(1059)←☼
Pages: 1 ... 5 6 [7]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.114 seconds with 19 queries.