LaCrosse 2813 total rain question

[weathernut679]

When we were setting up our weather station we tipped it a number of times and the rain gauge thingy probably went back and forth, so that once we got everything up and working our unit displayed almost an inch of rain that had not fallen. I reset the total (which is the only thing I could manage to reset). Now my total is accurate, but the unit (especially the display on my computer) is still showing the large number from last month. Is there any way to get that out of there?

Thanks!

Kathy

[DanS]

Other than deleting the lines of data in the HW program on the Data page I don't know any other way. I assume this is where you say you're still seeing the additional rain you don't want?

Welcome to the forum also!

[weathernut679]

Thank you! Glad to be here.

The display I'm talking about is the "last month" entry on my computer display. Currently it reads .83 inches for last month (of which the unit was live for 3-4 days and no precipitation fell at all), .28 inches total. I guess if I just wait a month it'll pass out of sight and won't matter.

But I was interested in perhaps uploading data to a site online (I'd read something about that being possible), and I didn't want to upload any erroneous information.

Kathy

[DanS]

I do believe that data displayed will remain, as you say, until next month then update. Since your station has been in operation for such a short period of time and it's still the beginning of the month you could always reload the HW program and start recording accurate from a fresh start. Could start uploading right away.

Another thing to try (I personally haven't) is go into the HW program, click on 'Data', on the bottom left of main window, then scroll through looking for those bad lines relating to the "last Month" readings in that window you talk about. Delete them and restart the HW program.

Hope you get it straightened out one way or another.

[xykotik]

I have tried DanS' suggestion, but the week, and month numbers jump back to their erroneous state once the console resyncs, so it must be coming from there somehow.  The good news is that these aren't what reports to WU, and they roll out in a week/month with your "good" numbers after a clear.

[weathernut679]

Now I have a new problem. I was messing around this morning in my Startup program list trying to get back to a faster boot time. Now I can't get my unit to synchronize. I don't think I unchecked anything relating to this unit, but it's suspicious. Does anyone here know what I would look for in Startup?

Or, preferably, does anyone know how I can get the unit to start talking to my computer again?

 

[weathernut679]

Oh, and also: can you explain what you mean by "loading the HW software" to start fresh? I'm a bit confused by that.

Thanks!

Kathy

[DanS]

Kathy, if you still haven't got the console to resync with the p.c., first ensure the p.c. 'sees' the USB dongle is available and without problems. You can go into 'Device Manager' under 'My Computer , System' to see it. Next, in the HW program, select 'Extras , Resynchronize' but don't press the Synchronize button until you press the resync button on the console first.

If it still won't link up, double check the console batteries. If they are too low the console will have difficulties transmitting to the p.c.

Please disregard the previous 'loading the HW software' statement as member xykotik pointed out it will not correct the problem. As I mentioned that I personally haven't tried this to clear the bad data I wasn't sure if it would. xykotik showed that this data appears to be retained in the console and not the HW program.

Let us know how you're progressing and good luck.

[weathernut679]

Thanks! I was looking for "Device Manager" and decided just to try again, and it worked! 

Kathy

[kimremmel]

This tells how to delete or set to zero the total, 24 hour and hourly rainfall.

14. MIN/MAX Programming Modes
       MIN/MAX display Mode
The MIN/MAX Mode provides the user with information about the MIN/MAX values of all weather data together with the time and date at which these values were recorded.
       Entering each MIN/MAX mode
In the normal display mode for e.g. the indoor temperature and humidity, press MIN/MAX key to toggle the display between the maximum, minimum and current records. While the maximum or minimum values are shown press the DISPLAY key once to show the time and date that value was received. Now press the MIN/MAX key to toggle from the minimum and maximum readings and the time and dates the
records were received are also shown. Still in the MIN/MAX mode (where the time and date for a value are shown), press the DISPLAY key to move through each respective unit as follows:

• Indoor temperature (max or min with time and date)
• Indoor humidity (max or min with time and date)
• Outdoor temperature (max or min with time and date)
• Outdoor humidity (max or min with time and date)
• Outdoor wind chill (max or min with time and date)
• Outdoor dew point (max or min with time and date)
• Rainfall 24 hours (max or min with time and date)
• Rainfall 1 hour (max or min with time and date)
• Rainfall total (max only with time and date)

When in any of the above modes, press the MIN/MAX key to toggle between the maximum or minimum values of those
records and their respective time and dates will also be
shown.

For the wind and pressure minimum and maximum readings, the same would apply except that the WIND or PRESSURE
keys would be used instead of the DISPLAY KEY.
    Exiting the MIN/MAX modes
If the maximum and minimum modes with times and dates are displayed, press the PLUS (+) key twice to return the normal
display mode.
     -----> Resetting the MIN/MAX records <-----
While in the minimum or maximum mode, the time and dates are also displayed along with the recorded values. If the
MINUS (-) key is pressed while any of these values are displayed, that particular minimum or maximum record will be
reset to current reading together with the current time and date with the exception of the following:


The first case is Rainfall Total, which has neither maximum nor minimum records since it will show only
the total rainfall.
Pressing the MINUS (-) key will reset the rainfall total value to zero and the time recording to
current time.


The second case is Rainfall 24h or 1h, which records maximum rain count only for these respective times.
Pressing the MINUS (-) key in either of these two modes will reset the rain count to the current rain count and time and date.

[weathernut679]

Okay, now I have a new problem. The computer and wall unit are in sync, but the total rain on the wall unit is reading all dashes. The total rain shows properly on the computer. What could be going on here?

[weathernut679]

Now after about 6 hours I do have a rain display on my wall unit. However, it's showing the week total, not the grand total. Mysteriouser and mysteriouser!

[DanS]

Kathy, I'd say let it run like you have it now for another couple of days or so and see if it catches up and reads those rain readings correctly. Also on pg.25, near the top, it mentions how you can go on the console (wall unit) and scroll through the min/max values until you get to 'rain total'. Here it may show all dashes until you do a reset (press the up arrow). Then it should show what the current reading is with time and date.
It sounds like you have it running correctly now and may just have to give it time to settle.

You could probably begin uploading the data now without fear of invalid data going out. Those readings you mentioned are just for the console display. What goes out is what's shown on the HW (and upload s/w) program.

[xykotik]

Now after about 6 hours I do have a rain display on my wall unit. However, it's showing the week total, not the grand total. Mysteriouser and mysteriouser!

Has it rained since resetting the total?  The week and month totals will not ever clear.  They will just roll-out with new accumulated rain data at seven and thirty days.  Just no way to reset that.  Those don't get uploaded.

If it hasn't rained, are you willing to make a single manual tip to see if it registers on your console?

[weathernut679]

I understand now about the weekly and monthly totals needing to scroll out of sight.

And yes, I reset the total rain about 3 weeks ago and it has rained a few times since. Ever since then (until yesterday) the grand total would show on the wall console (0.31). The computer display showed a grand total of 0.31 and a last-month total of .83. So that's consistent with what you say,l that the weekly and monthly don't reset.

However, yesterday my wall console went through several hours of showing all dashes, and then when numbers started showing up again, it is only the weekly total.

So now on my wall it says 0.06. On my computer it says last week 0.06, last month 0.83, total 0.31.

The numbers seem consistent enough, but the display is really unpredictable.

Kathy

[xykotik]

My (limited) experience with the WS2813 suggests that there are many weak links in the transmission chain.  First is the batteries in the rain-gauge and replacement sequence being fussy.  Next, rain-guage unobstructed (by anything) line-of-sight to temp/hygro unit, otherwise intermittent dropouts.  Then close proximity of temp/hygro to console with no more than one wall between.  Even with only one exterior wall, I have personally had drop-outs once beyond about 30-feet.  A friend recently figured out that his intermittent problems were caused when the concrete exterior wall to which his temp/hygro (WS2810) was wet with wind-blown rain (or an experimental soaking with a garden hose).  Many weak links.  Another is from the console to the USB-transceiver of the WS2812-WS2813.  That's three wireless signals daisy-chained and depending on ideal conditions.  It's great that there are no wires and the system is inexpensive, but an aweful lot of headaches because of it.