Weather Display keeps dropping connection.

[Skywatch]

I've got my WMR100 running on Weather Display, Today I examined the console and Weather display, I can't tell you how many times Weather Display didn't update to the console. Why is this? Why can't Weather Display take in the data as it's recieved on the console? Can anyone help me? This is getting annoying.

[Weather Display]

periodicly the wmr100 console needs to be reset
to get the data flowing to the software again

also though make sure the wmr100.exe program is running (check what shows in that)
note you should ideally be using the WD forum for help like this

[Skywatch]

Well before I used Weather Display I had Cumulus and Weather Station Data Logger. They never dropped connection. I'm not trying to go after you or Weather Display. The issue is the dropping are so bad I have to close out of Weather Display and open Cumulus to get it working properly. And the thing that ticks me off the most Weather Display misses all the high gusts. Like a few minutes ago we had 22.3 mph that Weather Display missed. WSDL which I'm running at the same time got it. This means the problem is not the WMR100. It's Weather Display. If the WMR100 were the problem WSDL would have missed it too.

[Weather Display]

you should not be running 2 software programs at the same time , the USB connection is not really designed to have 2 programs access it at the same time

i.e you did not have problems until you started to run another program at the same time?

also you say its dropping the connection...but then you say its just missing some data...it cant be both...?

[Skywatch]

I ran the other program to see whether or not it was Weather Display. I opened WSDL after my original post. This drop out is nothing new. I rememeber this happening on my original computer about 4 years ago before I had WSDL. I ran Weather Display because it was one of the only programs avalible for window NT and the WMR100. This was before I got my Windows7. I don't hate Weather Display. But when we get drop outs this becomes an issue. Now I've closed out of WSDL. Lets see if it works this time.

[Weather Display]

I do not think drop out is the correct term you should be using

if the data is not updating, check what shows in the separate running wmr100.exe program (double click on that programs icon)

but do make sure that windows is not powering down the USB port

also make sure to set WeatherD.exe to run as administrator on W7

[Skywatch]

These issues are still going on even after a console reset and all other programs were closed out. I'm still loosing connection the WMR100. It just missed a 20+ mph wind. This seems to happen more frequently with higher winds. To me that's just a coincidence. But it really bugs me more than anything to miss wind. I could care less of the less frequent updates like temperature, air pressure, humidity, UV index. But missing wind particularly high gusts? That's unacceptable.

[Weather Display]

note that using the term dropping connection is not a correct term to be using in this case

instead what you describing looks to be at times the windspeed output is not always being picked up, i.e sometimes a windspeed data packet might be getting missed

monitor the windspeed data arriving in the separate wmr100 program, and see if its being picked up there OK, but maybe that data is then not appearing in WD itself

also, which version/build of WD?

[Skywatch]

note that using the term dropping connection is not a correct term to be using in this case

instead what you describing looks to be at times the windspeed output is not always being picked up, i.e sometimes a windspeed data packet might be getting missed

monitor the windspeed data arriving in the separate wmr100 program, and see if its being picked up there OK, but maybe that data is then not appearing in WD itself

also, which version/build of WD?

If I'm not using the correct term what term would you use? The problem is still the same.
I'll see if WMR100 program is the issue I could care less about those speeds getting to the Weather Display but not getting to Wunderground is an issue.

Sorry I may seem a little tense here. These issues are driving me nuts.

[Skywatch]

I've decided not to let the issues bother me. Where Weather Display may not always be ontop of the updates it's features make up for that. While other programs are more ontop of the updates but low in features. I'm not going to let it bother me. Everything's cool.

[Weather Display]

if you are really worried about windspeed readngs then I would be using WD with your davis VP instead of the wmr100 as you are now

[Skywatch]

Well WeatherLink has some things like solar Ly or langleys and I like the bulletin layout. Sometimes the graphs on Weather Display can be stubborn. Like they have a mind of their own. Sometimes I'l select some options I want to graph and the graph goes blank. When I put it back to it's original options it's still blank. Sometimes they can be tempormental. I'm wanting to wait untill I get Virtual Vantage Pro. I still like monitoring on the WMR100. I can put the VP2 on, but for right now it's not the most practical situation. I usually don't do that unless the WMR100 is being worked on.

[Weather Display]

could you provide more info on what graphs and what you are adding/selecting doing exactly to cause that problem
(i.e is it repeatable, etc)

[Skywatch]

I know this is impossable, but it would be cool if Weather Display was capable of multipule station inputs. Like wind speed #1, Oregon Scientific wind speed #2 Davis, rainfall 1 Oregon Scientific rainfall 2 Davis. It woule be cool to run both weather stations at once. But I'm shure that would make the problems worse.

[Weather Display]

there are already input combinations available
but not that particular combination

since you have a Davis VP, if it was me, I would be running WD with that and would not be worried about the WMR100 anymore
(which is slower to update all the sensors compared to the VP)

[Skywatch]

I've made the desicion to wait untill I get the UV sensor for my Vantage Pro2. Davis informed me that they redesigned the UV sensor to be cheaper so I'm waiting untill that is released. Then my WMR100 will retire to Cumulus and my VP2 will run on Weather Display. Once a week I will open weatherLink to import the data into that program. but soon my WMR100 will be moved aside. I don't want to take UV index away from the public. My community likes the data, I like providing so I'm going to hold off untill further notice.

[MesquiteWx]

I can confirm what he is saying. This is not a problem with the WMR100 as I have a Davis VP2 and ever since I have upgraded to the most current release of WD I have had nothing but problems with it dropping connection and I am most certainly not using it out of context. It drops the connection and stops transferring data and sometimes it may never connect at all and then hangs and crashes. I have pages and pages of error logs from StartWatch of WD hanging and crashing and having to be restarted. I never had this problem until I updated to the most recent version. Sometimes having more is less and if it came down to it I would rather have reliability over something packed with features. I am sorry but I am not afraid to say it since this is a paid program so I have my opinion as a customer so I hope you don't take offense.

[Weather Display]

sounds like you need to relax the settings you have set in startwatch
so that it does not stop and restart WD all the time

[MesquiteWx]

That kind of defeats the purpose of StartWatch. But yes I have ran it wide open with no settings but to start the program with no monitoring and still the same issues occur. StartWatch wouldn't have any bearing over it losing connection to the console. I have no other problems with the other 3 PWS software running. Yes, with settings in place it does restart it but only because the program itself hangs and stops responding and crashes so StartWatch does it's job and steps in. Without some kind of  of measures in place it would lock up the entire machine and the other programs running otherwise. I know it's not my machine because it's a brand new never used out of the box PowerEdge R310. Don't get me wrong WD is great software and has been reliable for me for years, but this current release doesn't seem very stable to me.

[Garth Bock]

I've made the desicion to wait untill I get the UV sensor for my Vantage Pro2. Davis informed me that they redesigned the UV sensor to be cheaper so I'm waiting untill that is released.

Whoa....whaddya say ?? Davis is coming out with a less expensive UV sensor ? When and how much ?

[Weather Display]

there is a thread on the  WD forum about removing unnecesary tags from the testtags.txt file
there are some that use alot of CPU
so I would do that...as you are right, less is more...
so you need to have WD doing less, i.e only what it needs to


what type of data logger do you have?

[MesquiteWx]

I've made the desicion to wait untill I get the UV sensor for my Vantage Pro2. Davis informed me that they redesigned the UV sensor to be cheaper so I'm waiting untill that is released.

Whoa....whaddya say ?? Davis is coming out with a less expensive UV sensor ? When and how much ?

That is good news. I wonder if this is why the current ones I've seen have been put on price cut or it is just because of the holidays. Next question is since they will be cheaper if they will be lower quality?

there is a thread on the WD forum about removing unnecesary tags from the testtags.txt file
there are some that use alot of CPU
so I would do that...as you are right, less is more...
so you need to have WD doing less, i.e only what it needs to

That is exactly what I would like to do is just have it run what I need it to do. That is one of the things I was going to do this weekend was go through the testtags.txt file. It seems like with all the scripts that have test tag additions there is a lot of unneeded ones but I need to look into it. If you know the link to the thread that would be great.

[Weather Display]

I just used the advanced search on the WD forum and it found straight away
http://www.weather-watch.com/smf/index.php/topic,53554.15.html

[Skywatch]

I've made the desicion to wait untill I get the UV sensor for my Vantage Pro2. Davis informed me that they redesigned the UV sensor to be cheaper so I'm waiting untill that is released.

Whoa....whaddya say ?? Davis is coming out with a less expensive UV sensor ? When and how much ?

That is good news. I wonder if this is why the current ones I've seen have been put on price cut or it is just because of the holidays. Next question is since they will be cheaper if they will be lower quality?

there is a thread on the WD forum about removing unnecesary tags from the testtags.txt file
there are some that use alot of CPU
so I would do that...as you are right, less is more...
so you need to have WD doing less, i.e only what it needs to

That is exactly what I would like to do is just have it run what I need it to do. That is one of the things I was going to do this weekend was go through the testtags.txt file. It seems like with all the scripts that have test tag additions there is a lot of unneeded ones but I need to look into it. If you know the link to the thread that would be great.

 I don't know any details but Davis has been doing some beta testing. I asked Davis about the price, they said it would be "more affordable" "less expensive" they both mean pretty much the same thing. http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=11873.0 Here is an old topic from when Davis launched this project.

[Skywatch]

I didn't realize the topic had been re-opened.

I can confirm what he is saying. This is not a problem with the WMR100 as I have a Davis VP2 and ever since I have upgraded to the most current release of WD I have had nothing but problems with it dropping connection and I am most certainly not using it out of context. It drops the connection and stops transferring data and sometimes it may never connect at all and then hangs and crashes. I have pages and pages of error logs from StartWatch of WD hanging and crashing and having to be restarted. I never had this problem until I updated to the most recent version. Sometimes having more is less and if it came down to it I would rather have reliability over something packed with features. I am sorry but I am not afraid to say it since this is a paid program so I have my opinion as a customer so I hope you don't take offense.

Is it a serial or USB? I have the USB version on my Vantage Pro2. I've heard of drop outs with the USB logger. I havn't experienced this personally. At least not for a while. I'm not shure. WD seems to handle the VP2 better than the WMR100. My WMR100 died so I put my VP2 on untill I can replace the WMR100 with a WMR200. Then the VP2 will go back to WeatherLink. The dropouts don't occure to the VP2. I'm hoping the WMR200 will have the same results as the VP2. Does the VP2 work with WeatherLink and have the same problem or does the problem seem to be with Weather Display it's self? I'm wanting to get Virtual VP to run both Weather Display and WeatherLink side by side.