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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2011, 11:48:14 PM »
Temps without any relationship to DewPt don't mean a whole a lot, especially in hotter areas.


Yup! The desert is a different creature when you consider all other factors.

While I lived in Vegas (Mojave Desert), the 110+ days were hot - no doubt - but not hotter than some of the 105s I get in southern NM (Chihuahua Desert). Even 95 can be two different worlds depending on the month out here. Before Monsoon, it's great and I'll be working in the yard all day long and feeling comfortable. Once July-August rolls along and the DP & RH jump up, 95 can be unbearable to be out in let alone work in.

I've only driven thru the Sonora Desert but it's still hot there  :shock:


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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2011, 01:12:57 AM »
I think another factor that needs to be considered is how acclimated one has become to the temperatures of a region.

For example, when I first moved here from Buffalo, New York even dry low humidity 100 degree weather was HOT!  Now, it's no big deal.

On the other end of the spectrum I would get the biggest kick out of people wearing heavy coats when the temperatures dropped
into the upper 40 to 50 degree range.  :-) 

Now, sad to say, I even grab a heavier jacket during those "chilly" winter days!   :roll:


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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2011, 02:02:13 AM »
 
I think another factor that needs to be considered is how acclimated one has become to the temperatures of a region.
For example, when I first moved here from Buffalo, New York even dry low humidity 100 degree weather was HOT!  Now, it's no big deal.
On the other end of the spectrum I would get the biggest kick out of people wearing heavy coats when the temperatures dropped
into the upper 40 to 50 degree range.  :-)  Now, sad to say, I even grab a heavier jacket during those "chilly" winter days!   :roll:
   
   Excellent point!  Today's 102*F, a new record, was a rare thing around here.  We have not had a day over 100*F since 1995! Yes we have had many days in the 90's but not many with heat indexes of 118*F.  A person can become aclimatized to such weather but it would take quite a lot of time.  Even some people around here, who used to live in Florida 10 or more years ago and were used to this kind of weather down there, find they are not as accustomed to it as they once were.  It was a real shock to go outside today into that "soup"!  Thankfully it is not supposed to go over 100 again but will be in the 90's thru Monday at least according to the forecast.  Now that will seem much cooler to everyone. ;)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2011, 06:15:15 AM »
I think another factor that needs to be considered is how acclimated one has become to the temperatures of a region.

For example, when I first moved here from Buffalo, New York even dry low humidity 100 degree weather was HOT!  Now, it's no big deal.

On the other end of the spectrum I would get the biggest kick out of people wearing heavy coats when the temperatures dropped
into the upper 40 to 50 degree range.  :-) 

Now, sad to say, I even grab a heavier jacket during those "chilly" winter days!   :roll:


Just like the locals over here. Some mornings when the temps dip down in the low 70's you'll see many riding their motorcycles around with heavy coats, gloves, etc.  :lol:

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2011, 06:29:34 AM »
Just like the locals over here. Some mornings when the temps dip down in the low 70's you'll see many riding their motorcycles around with heavy coats, gloves, etc.  :lol:

A coat in the low 70's ... yikes. Low 70's is like a summer morning for us here. The locals from your area would be complaining if they were here now, about 8:30pm local time here and it's currently about 46 F and chilly outside with a dew point of 28 F.
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2011, 06:34:10 AM »
I went to school in Quebec.  December temps can be -10 to -20C... got used to it after while.  One xmas I went to London UK as my girlfriends parents were living there. Temps were +5 to +10, but it was so damp it seemed it was impossible to stay warm.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2011, 01:05:44 PM »
I think another factor that needs to be considered is how acclimated one has become to the temperatures of a region.

For example, when I first moved here from Buffalo, New York even dry low humidity 100 degree weather was HOT!  Now, it's no big deal.

On the other end of the spectrum I would get the biggest kick out of people wearing heavy coats when the temperatures dropped
into the upper 40 to 50 degree range.  :-) 

Now, sad to say, I even grab a heavier jacket during those "chilly" winter days!   :roll:


Quite true! When I moved there in Sept '81 from Long Island, it would still hit low 100s. Hot, yes but not uncomfortable at all. That winter I was still in short sleeves on graveyard and it felt great! Next summer was a treat. It never felt too hot to me. Same with the winter.

Everybody kept saying "Don't worry - your blood will thin and you'll start feeling it". It took quite a few years for it to happen but it did. Tho' in the winters, I think I only wore my "everyday NY winter jacket" twice over the 25 years there.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2011, 01:16:39 PM »
Oddly enough I found a place that meets your weather parameters, but not sure about the other variables.   I think the DSL / 1/2 miles to nearest neighbour might be the hard one to pair up, you never now.

Surprisingly, The Canary Islands.

Andrew

Now if I could only find a place where the temps were always between 45 and 75 all year long with low humidity - rural, no neighbors for at least a 1/2 mile, cell service, DSL, near enough to a town to make getting supplies easy...............

PM me if you find such a place.  :-)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2011, 02:42:18 AM »
I've thought of another question based on what a few of you have mentioned.


What sort of Heat/Cool do you get, Dry Heat, Humid Heat, etc.??

Here we get a Dry Cool during Winter and a Humid Heat during summer.
In winter humidity is typically between 20% and 70%, does get up to 100% sometimes on really calm nights.
In summer because it is nearly always raining the humidity typically ranges between 70% and 100%.
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- Pleasant days (anything between 60 F and 70 F mostly)
- Dry, low humidity
- Very little rainfall (usually not much more than 2 inches)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2016, 07:31:50 PM »
Interesting thread...

OK, so if I disregard the effect of wind and humidity

For me:

Very hot: above 35C (95F)
Too hot: above 30C (86F)
Relatively cold: below 0C (32F)
Very cold: below -15C (5F)

The warmest T I remember here recently was 40C (104F) and coldest probably somewhere around -25C (-13F)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2016, 08:10:19 PM »
I can actually bear quite a lot and I am a bit weird in that I wear the same clothes all yr round :D I only take out my winter jacket when it gets below -10C (14F), but I hardly ever wear a T-shirt even when it is above 25C (77F). I even wear the same shoes :D, not because I dont have any other, I just dont think about these things, I dont mind if it is hot or cold :D Unless it is extreme. Just came from work 2 hours ago. It is 2AM here and snowed half inch of snow, but it is only around freezing point, so no point in wearing a jacket :D

One thing I hate though is when it is cold inside... I dont mind cold outside, in fact I love it, the colder the better :D But I hate when it is cold inside - especially that feeling when you sit inside a car that has been standing outside over night when it was freezing and you just sit there and have to wait before it warms up :D

In the summer the problem is that no-one here really has A/C, except for like shopping centers or government offices. We don't even have A/C in my office, so when the temp in my flat, which is just one room and right under the roof, does not drop below 90F for over 2 weeks, its not very comfortable either :)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2016, 08:24:52 PM »
 During summer have to open windows to warm up the cabin. Logs suppress the outside heat  to where no A/C is needed. log thickness is 10 inch. they hold the heat well in the winter even  during the 30 below stuff we had  stove was on low burn. Keep  rooms at around 65. Bedroom around 60 deg.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2016, 08:31:10 PM »
My flat unfortunaly, is a tiny one-room flat just under the roof. In the summer, as soon as it gets slightly warmer the temp inside rises quickly and does not drop even during night. Likewise, in the winter, if I turn the heating off, it will drop from 24C (75) to 15C (59) in a matter of a few hours... Summer is more of a problem because as I said, I like cold and I dont like cold indoor, but you can always just turn up the heating, but when its hot... not much you can do here... same with clothes. If you are really cold, you just put on more layers, but when you are too hot, you can only take off as much clothes :D

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2016, 10:17:23 PM »
Here are the "feels like" temperatures used for the "Comfort Index" on my page. (All are F)

   120   Dangerously Hot
   119   Dangerously Hot
   118   Dangerously Hot
   117   Dangerously Hot
   116   Dangerously Hot
   115   Dangerously Hot
   114   Dangerously Hot
   113   Dangerously Hot
   112   Dangerously Hot
   111   Dangerously Hot
   110   Dangerously Hot
   109   Extremely Hot
   108   Extremely Hot
   107   Extremely Hot
   106   Extremely Hot
   105   Extremely Hot
   104   Extremely Hot
   103   Extremely Hot
   102   Extremely Hot
   101   Extremely Hot
   100   Extremely Hot
   99   Uncomfortably Hot
   98   Uncomfortably Hot
   97   Uncomfortably Hot
   96   Uncomfortably Hot
   95   Uncomfortably Hot
   94   Hot
   93   Hot
   92   Hot
   91   Hot
   90   Hot
   89   Very Warm
   88   Very Warm
   87   Very Warm
   86   Very Warm
   85   Very Warm
   84   Warm
   83   Warm
   82   Warm
   81   Warm
   80   Warm
   79   Comfortable
   78   Comfortable
   77   Comfortable
   76   Comfortable
   75   Comfortable
   74   Very Comfortable
   73   Very Comfortable
   72   Very Comfortable
   71   Very Comfortable
   70   Very Comfortable
   69   Very Comfortable
   68   Very Comfortable
   67   Very Comfortable
   66   Very Comfortable
   65   Very Comfortable
   64   Comfortable
   63   Comfortable
   62   Comfortable
   61   Comfortable
   60   Comfortable
   59   Slightly Cool
   58   Slightly Cool
   57   Slightly Cool
   56   Slightly Cool
   55   Slightly Cool
   54   Cool
   53   Cool
   52   Cool
   51   Cool
   50   Cool
   49   Cool
   48   Cool
   47   Cool
   46   Cool
   45   Cool
   44   Very Cool
   43   Very Cool
   42   Very Cool
   41   Very Cool
   40   Very Cool
   39   Cold
   38   Cold
   37   Cold
   36   Cold
   35   Cold
   34   Cold
   33   Cold
   32   Cold
   31   Cold
   30   Cold
   29   Cold
   28   Cold
   27   Cold
   26   Cold
   25   Cold
   24   Cold
   23   Cold
   22   Cold
   21   Cold
   20   Cold
   19   Uncomfortably Cold
   18   Uncomfortably Cold
   17   Uncomfortably Cold
   16   Uncomfortably Cold
   15   Uncomfortably Cold
   14   Uncomfortably Cold
   13   Uncomfortably Cold
   12   Uncomfortably Cold
   11   Uncomfortably Cold
   10   Uncomfortably Cold
   9   Very Cold
   8   Very Cold
   7   Very Cold
   6   Very Cold
   5   Very Cold
   4   Very Cold
   3   Very Cold
   2   Very Cold
   1   Very Cold
   0   Very Cold
   -1   Extremely Cold
   -2   Extremely Cold
   -3   Extremely Cold
   -4   Extremely Cold
   -5   Extremely Cold
   -6   Extremely Cold
   -7   Extremely Cold
   -8   Extremely Cold
   -9   Extremely Cold
   -10   Extremely Cold
   -11   Extremely Cold
   -12   Extremely Cold
   -13   Extremely Cold
   -14   Extremely Cold
   -15   Extremely Cold
   -16   Dangerously Cold
   -17   Dangerously Cold
   -18   Dangerously Cold
   -19   Dangerously Cold
   -20   Dangerously Cold


...and the dew points used for the "Humidity Index".

   85   Oppressively Humid
   84   Oppressively Humid
   83   Oppressively Humid
   82   Oppressively Humid
   81   Oppressively Humid
   80   Oppressively Humid
   79   Oppressively Humid
   78   Oppressively Humid
   77   Oppressively Humid
   76   Oppressively Humid
   75   Oppressively Humid
   74   Very Humid
   73   Very Humid
   72   Very Humid
   71   Very Humid
   70   Very Humid
   69   Humid
   68   Humid
   67   Humid
   66   Humid
   65   Humid
   64   Slightly Humid
   63   Slightly Humid
   62   Slightly Humid
   61   Slightly Humid
   60   Slightly Humid
   59   Comfortable
   58   Comfortable
   57   Comfortable
   56   Comfortable
   55   Comfortable
   54   Very Comfortable
   53   Very Comfortable
   52   Very Comfortable
   51   Very Comfortable
   50   Very Comfortable
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2016, 04:15:27 PM »
In the winter time, the "cold" most often depends for me on windchill. Our winters are rather mild (for our latitude), with narrow temperature ranges mostly between -10 and +10C (10-50F).
If it is far below freezing, the wind is usually calm, so you don't really feel the cold.
But if it is a few degrees above freezing (C) with a wind of 30 mph and high humidity, this can often feel bone-chilling cold, so gloves can be necessary despite the actual temperature being above freezing.

Likewise, in the summer the dew point decides whether i consider it hot or not. If we have a 32C/90F day with a dewpoint of 10C/50F, this can actually feel quite pleasant
whereas a muggy day with 27C/80F and a dewpoint of 21C/70F can be quite uncomfortable.

As for the clothing, in summer i usually go out without a jacket unless it is windy or rainy and the temperature is well below 18C/65F. If its above 22C/72F then it's shorts time for me (unless i have to be at work). For winter season i have lighter and heavier jackets, if its above 10C/50F and the wind is calm then i sometimes go out without a jacket as well.

 
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2016, 05:21:22 PM »
Here's my answers disregarding wind and/or humidity/dewpoint. Bear in mind I'm from a non-coastal region of the South in the US (Upstate SC)!

All in F
>100 - Very Hot (with high humidity/dewpoint. 100 to 105 or so isn't too bad with low humidity/dewpoint)
93-100 - Hot
85-93 - Very Warm
80-85 - Warm
60-80 - Comfortable
50-60 - Cool (this range is comfortable with high humidity/dewpoint and low wind)
40-50 - Chilly (cool to very cool)
15-40 - Cold
0-15 - Very Cold
<0 - Extremely Cold (I've never felt an air temp below zero, but have felt -10 wind chill)

Definitely interesting to see the different responses!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2016, 05:24:23 PM by alexstaar »
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2016, 05:50:22 PM »
>105F hot.
<75F cold.
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2016, 06:12:59 PM »
Zero and above = warm
-30 and down just right.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2016, 07:04:49 PM »
Would be interesting to actually change this question a little bit:

What temperature do you consider comfortable indoor?

Because I for example like cold, but inside I hate cold. I love very low temps, but I love when you then come inside and it is warm. Probably the worst is when you sit inside a completely frozen car :D I hate that. I would much more prefer just being outside in such situation. Cold outside is fine, cold inside, no... not for me.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2016, 07:42:45 PM »
Would be interesting to actually change this question a little bit:

What temperature do you consider comfortable indoor?

Because I for example like cold, but inside I hate cold. I love very low temps, but I love when you then come inside and it is warm. Probably the worst is when you sit inside a completely frozen car :D I hate that. I would much more prefer just being outside in such situation. Cold outside is fine, cold inside, no... not for me.

Inside comfort for me would be 68F to 70F in the winter with the heat on; 70F to 73F with the A/C on in the summer.
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2016, 07:54:00 PM »
I usually keep my thermostat at 23C (73F), once it drops to 22C it heats up again to 23. THe problem is that I live in a one-room flat, just under the roof, all walls are outside walls and to make things worse, it is very poorly insulated.
So in the summer, as soon as the temperature rises for just a day or two, it immediately heats up to around 30C (85F) and stays like that for weeks... and of course no A/C...
In contrast, right now, I usually turn of heating when I go to bed, which is around 4:30AM, and the inside temp is close to 23(73). When I get up at 8:30 it is usually around 19C (66F) and remember that it is still not that cold outside, only around freezing point. And I leave it off and go to work. I can watch the temp when Im at work on my station, by 3PM Im usually down to 15C (59F)! It really changes very quickly. At that point the heating sets off again and maintains the T around this until about 9PM, which is when I have it set to start heating at maximum and by the time I get home around 11:30PM or midnight, it is back to 23 (73).
But winter is obviously not such a bit problem, if Im cold I just turn up the thermostat... if it is too hot, however, there is not much you can do... and last year we had an extreme heat wave in July/August and I remember the temperature in my flat did not drop below 32C (90F) for over 2 weeks! Including night-time! And in my office it was slightly better but I also dont have A/C there...

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2016, 11:37:05 PM »
I usually keep my thermostat at 23C (73F), once it drops to 22C it heats up again to 23. THe problem is that I live in a one-room flat, just under the roof, all walls are outside walls and to make things worse, it is very poorly insulated.
So in the summer, as soon as the temperature rises for just a day or two, it immediately heats up to around 30C (85F) and stays like that for weeks... and of course no A/C...
In contrast, right now, I usually turn of heating when I go to bed, which is around 4:30AM, and the inside temp is close to 23(73). When I get up at 8:30 it is usually around 19C (66F) and remember that it is still not that cold outside, only around freezing point. And I leave it off and go to work. I can watch the temp when Im at work on my station, by 3PM Im usually down to 15C (59F)! It really changes very quickly. At that point the heating sets off again and maintains the T around this until about 9PM, which is when I have it set to start heating at maximum and by the time I get home around 11:30PM or midnight, it is back to 23 (73).
But winter is obviously not such a bit problem, if Im cold I just turn up the thermostat... if it is too hot, however, there is not much you can do... and last year we had an extreme heat wave in July/August and I remember the temperature in my flat did not drop below 32C (90F) for over 2 weeks! Including night-time! And in my office it was slightly better but I also dont have A/C there...

Your flat does a fairly decent job maintaining that temp without the heat on considering it's around 32F outside. The furnace (heat pump) at my house starts running continuously (i.e. without turning off) once the outside temp gets below about 32F to maintain an inside temp of 69F.
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2016, 02:21:35 AM »
It's a relative thing, when it "warms" up from 60C below to 40C below it can be called a heat wave and time to take some clothing off otherwise you perspire which can then freeze. Similar in places like Vietnam when it dropped from 140F to 100F time to put a coat on as one would start start to shiver 

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2016, 07:27:30 AM »
140F, -60F.... you are talking about the apparent temp right? :D

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2016, 03:26:56 PM »
Yes. He is spent time there in Nam and when it cooled off lot of guys bundled up. Can see that effect when was in California. They be all bundled up at 60 degrees F and those of us from Alaska be walking around in shirt sleeves. Here coming from 50 to 60 below it like an heat wave. You dress down in summer clothing till you adjust to the temperature. After 2 weeks at 35 below to go outside it just slip on an vest and do what ever anything else heavier I start sweating and that is an no no in cold clime. Get wet you get dead.

John