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« on: March 06, 2011, 02:38:53 PM » |
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Hi,great forum!
any major good or bad differences between the 6152 and the Vue? is one a little better then the other? looking for a good complete unit,not interested in on line transmitting just my own info.
anything you want to add will be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 03:16:41 PM » |
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I have the VP2 6152 wireless and love it. I believe the one big difference is that you cannot separate the annemometer from the rest of the sensors in the Vue. Otherwise from what I have read on the forum the Vue is a very good station. Oh, and welcome to the forum!!! Mark
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 03:28:41 PM » |
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I have a VP2 wireless. Awesome. Most use this for internet, but if you are not interested in sharing data, you may be interested in saving a little bit of money.
The Vue would be a good choice.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 03:32:59 PM » |
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The VUE is a perfectly good station for your basic weather watching. You can upload your data to CWOP and WeatherUnderground, etc, if desired.
The VantagePro line is much more versatile, for example, if you wanted to mount the anemometer remotely from the rain gauge or upgrade adding solar and UV sensors you could. There are also optional remote temperature, leaf wetness, and soil moisture sensor capabilities as well.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 03:42:09 PM » |
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Same here, even though I own a Vantage Pro2 Plus, I think the Vue would be a good station to start off with. By the way, I am thinking about putting in a Daytime Fan-Aspirated Shield Kit for my station.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 03:57:58 PM » |
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Thanks for the welcome and thank you all just what i was looking for. I do like features and the more the better,i do see the 6152 is Fan-Aspirated is the VUE?
the price difference I'm seeing are "about" the same, but like i said i love features. Another thing how is the refresh rate on the Vue? the 6152 is 2.5sec i think? i like that also.
and also reliability how are they on the two? i see the Vue is well liked here it just looks like the Vantage Pro2 seres is a quality unit also.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 04:27:39 PM » |
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yes, the vue is at 2.5 seconds. very reliable so far. but, as has been stated many times, a roof mounting is great for winds, but you will lose some precip, especially on windy days. a lower mount will give you more accurate rain reading, but the winds will likely be impacted due to obstructions such as trees and buildings. I found the temp to be accurate in both locations, as long as it's at least 6 feet or so above the roofline.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 04:31:43 PM » |
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Right that's the thing the rain precip may suffer some being an all in one unit i guess the only thing i don't like about that design.
does the mass pole inter fear with the wind direction at all do you think?
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 04:55:41 PM » |
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Right that's the thing the rain precip may suffer some being an all in one unit i guess the only thing i don't like about that design.
does the mass pole inter fear with the wind direction at all do you think?
not that I've noticed...
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2011, 05:00:30 PM » |
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Thanks weatherbear,,
anybody else have anything to add about these two?
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2011, 05:16:07 PM » |
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I have a VP2+ and love the flexability it offers. After some testing I found that having both the anemometer and the rain collector on the roof I was reading at least 10% short on total rain fall during windy storms. If you are concerned about total rain fall, look at a VP2 setup if $$ is there>
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 05:24:47 PM » |
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Thanks Rick, is it better to mount it off a pole(20-25ft) then vs the house peak? or would you still get some sort of precip loss?
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 06:46:37 PM » |
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I have a VP2+ and love the flexability it offers. After some testing I found that having both the anemometer and the rain collector on the roof I was reading at least 10% short on total rain fall during windy storms. If you are concerned about total rain fall, look at a VP2 setup if $$ is there>
Rick
The other option is to mount the Vue at 6' or so above the ground. The wind might not be as accurate (although I prefer to know what the wind is doing at the level where I am, not the level where birds are up in the air), but your rainfall will be more accurate.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2011, 06:48:29 PM » |
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Here is a link that will help explain siting options. http://home.comcast.net/~dshelms/CWOP_Guide.pdfRather than trying to explain it over, check it out. Lots of good info. Rick
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2011, 06:49:32 PM » |
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The wind might not be as accurate (although I prefer to know what the wind is doing at the level where I am, not the level where birds are up in the air), but your rainfall will be more accurate. Good point.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2011, 06:50:24 PM » |
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2011, 07:44:26 PM » |
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Thanks for the welcome and thank you all just what i was looking for. I do like features and the more the better,i do see the 6152 is Fan-Aspirated is the VUE? the price difference I'm seeing are "about" the same, but like i said i love features. Another thing how is the refresh rate on the Vue? the 6152 is 2.5sec i think? i like that also. and also reliability how are they on the two? i see the Vue is well liked here it just looks like the Vantage Pro2 seres is a quality unit also.
The Vue is not Fan-aspirated. I do not beleive that it can be upgraded but I am not 100% on that. Some people are pretty handy and can do things that others can not. Mark Mark
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2011, 08:30:09 PM » |
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Thanks Rick, is it better to mount it off a pole(20-25ft) then vs the house peak? or would you still get some sort of precip loss?
Had some time to respond to this better. My VP2 set up was on a tripod with a 10' mast at the peak of my single story house. The anemometer was at the top, about 30' above ground level, while I had the ISS about 5' up the mast, 25' AGL, so I could service it. After moving it to a 4x4 at 5' agl, my readings for rain are far better and my wind is still very accurate at the top of the tripod still on the roof. If you have had time to read the CWOP guide, you can understand that both the roof as well as the wind can greatly effect rain collection readings. Hope this helps, Rick
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2011, 08:32:21 PM » |
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Thanks Rick, is it better to mount it off a pole(20-25ft) then vs the house peak? or would you still get some sort of precip loss?
Had some time to respond to this better. My VP2 set up was on a tripod with a 10' mast at the peak of my single story house. The anemometer was at the top, about 30' above ground level, while I had the ISS about 5' up the mast, 25' AGL, so I could service it. After moving it to a 4x4 at 5' agl, my readings for rain are far better and my wind is still very accurate at the top of the tripod still on the roof. If you have had time to read the CWOP guide, you can understand that both the roof as well as the wind can greatly effect rain collection readings. Hope this helps, Rick Thank you for taking the time yes i under stand.
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 10:59:38 AM » |
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Another question for the guy's running these units, range??? whats real world range on these the VP2 says 1000' in sight, i know that's unrealistic what's the real world ranges you guy's are seeing through walls etc.
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 11:00:54 AM » |
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+1000 feet through three walls for a VP2!
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 11:02:08 AM » |
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+1000 feet through three walls for a VP2!
Really??? you actually get the full range? impressive if one can.
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 11:03:17 AM » |
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my distance is close, well within 100 feet so can't help you there. however it has no problem transmitting through a cement wall, or now through 3 solid layers of floor/ceiling/roof. 
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 11:05:17 AM » |
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+1000 feet through three walls for a VP2!
Really??? you actually get the full range? impressive if one can. wouldn't be surprised, but that's over 3 football fields away. one helluva yard!
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2011, 11:07:26 AM » |
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That distance is to a neighbor's ISS which I also monitor. There is only minimal vegetation in the signal path -- a few pines and deciduous trees -- but enough that I can't see the ISS. There may also be a second story of a another house in the signal path. That ISS is higher than my Envoy receivers by about 50-70 feet.
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