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« on: March 05, 2011, 09:15:55 AM »

I have a vantage vue weather station with weatherlinkip. Everything is setup and running properly. When I log into my weatherlink web site there is an option to upload to weather underground. I check that option and put in my station ID and password from the weather underground website and the data dosen't upload. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong??
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2011, 10:03:27 AM »

Have you checked to make sure that weather data is being sent to your website? Because if the data isn't getting to your WeatherLink IP website, then nothing will work. If data is getting there, check to make sure that you have entered the correct ID and Password, as the Password is case-sensitive.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2011, 03:27:20 PM »

Data is definatly getting to me weatherlink site. I made sure my station ID was all capital letters and that I put my password in the same way I do as I log into my account at weatherunderground. I even asked for support from them but they cant figure it out and told me to goto the forums....
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2011, 04:42:31 PM »

If WeatherLink.com is not sending data to WU, then perhaps you should ask Davis for support?
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2011, 05:04:36 PM »

I have a vantage vue weather station with weatherlinkip. Everything is setup and running properly. When I log into my weatherlink web site there is an option to upload to weather underground. I check that option and put in my station ID and password from the weather underground website and the data dosen't upload. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong??

What is your Weather Underground ID?
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2011, 09:35:48 PM »

After entering your station ID and password and checking the "box", did you click on "update settings"? Also, if you are using another software program, you can upload to WU with that Software. I use Cumulus and am very pleased with the results.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2011, 03:40:15 PM »

Like I have told several other members on here: Don't even attempt to use WeatherLink IP. It gives you all sorts of problems, even though Davis never mentions it. Davis also says that it is great for beginners because it is very easy to setup and operate. Well heck, you are already having problems. I would just scrap WeatherLink IP and the data logger, and go with the serial version. Much more reliable than USB or IP. In fact, a while ago I traded with my good friend kray1000 for his serial data logger and I have not had any problems since I switched.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2011, 03:48:25 PM »

It appears that jdepiero didn't have any problems getting WeatherLinkIP set up and operating with WeatherLink.com

I have a vantage vue weather station with weatherlinkip. Everything is setup and running properly.

Perhaps he/she will let us know how this turns out with WU.

And perhaps kray1000 will let us know what problems he's having with that used WeatherLinkIP.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 04:13:39 PM »

And perhaps kray1000 will let us know what problems he's having with that used WeatherLinkIP.

I temporarily replaced my serial datalogger with the WLIP I got from Andy.  The only problem I had was using it in conjunction with Virtual Weather Station.  There is some kind of latency issue, whereas several consecutive packets never display on the VWS broadcast display, and eventually it will drop out altogether.

There are times the WeatherLinkIP seems to go in limbo for an hour or two, but it will eventually correct itself.  I don't know if it's because of something VWS has told it to do, or what.  When this happens, the WeatherLinkIP is unreachable for a time even when VWS is restarted.

It seems to work great with Weather Display, though, and I've heard good reports using the WLIP with Weatherlink software and Cumulus as well.

Currently the WeatherLinkIP is a spare, but I would probably be using it if my site weren't already heavily dependent on VWS.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2011, 04:23:15 PM »

Like I have told several other members on here: Don't even attempt to use WeatherLink IP...

This illustrates the familiar downside of forums. You, in one specific set of circumstances, had some problems that you couldn't resolve. That's unfortunate and I sympathise.

But please step outside of your particular circumstances and try to understand that most other folk will have different circumstances; they won't experience the same problems, probably not any problems at all - you just have to look at the wl.com map to see that well over 5000 users worldwide are successfully using the IP logger. And for many of them, it will indeed have been the easiest way for them to get their weather data on the web.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2011, 05:47:15 PM »

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This illustrates the familiar downside of forums. You, in one specific set of circumstances, had some problems that you couldn't resolve. That's unfortunate and I sympathise.
Sympathizing with people doesn't help with their issue. They just feel like they are ignored. You can at least do some research and try to figure out the problem. My goal is to do as much as I can to eliminate these future issues that everyone is having with WLIP. I have received a several emails about WLIP problems from several different people. I'm not going to just sit here and pity people that have problems. I am going to help them, and do what is right to eliminate the issues that are proven to happen later. I have helped 3 people setup their weather stations and I had them get the serial version. All of the people did, and they were very satisfied. They said it was a little overwhelming at first, but I told them to just take your time and explore for your self. I come back the next day and they tell me how amazing I am and they are thanking me. Remember, just because Davis says WLIP is easy to setup, does not mean that there won't be stressful problems in the future.
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wl.com map to see that well over 5000 users worldwide are successfully using the IP logger
You can't just look at the map and count the number of icons. It is a proven fact that WLIP has downtime and communication issues. How do you know that some of those stations are down, in the wrong place, or old data from stations that are disconnected? Until you go out there and look at each website, you cannot say that.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 06:36:40 PM »

You can at least do some research and try to figure out the problem. 

Research:  You had problems using VWS with your WLIP.  kray1000 had problems using VWS with the WLIP.  bill-e had problems using VWS software with the WLIP.  KD5HIA had problems using VWS with his WLIP.  etc.

I didn't find any reports of problems using any software (WeatherLink, Cumulus, WD, etc.) other than VWS, with the WeatherLinkIP logger.

Conclusion?

It is a proven fact that WLIP has downtime and communication issues.

I believe you're saying that WeatherLink.com has downtime and communication issues (if that's not what you are saying, then please correct me).  Problems that exist with WeatherLink.com are not the fault of the WeatherLinkIP.

It would be quite correct to "warn" people who are just using the simple (automatic upload) features of the WLIP, that they will be depending on the reliability of the WeatherLink.com site (and of their internet connection) for the presence of their weather data on the internet.  Of course, that's true of any internet-based service.

Oh yeah, there were early problems with the WLIP communicating with some one particular ISP (FIOS as I recall).  Those were fixed about a year ago, with a firmware change, and I haven't seen any recent reports.
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 07:37:48 PM »

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I didn't find any reports of problems using any software (WeatherLink, Cumulus, WD, etc.) other than VWS, with the WeatherLinkIP logger.

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Yeah, just did some looking and there are some users that are experiencing lock-ups between WLIP and WL software. The data logger would give an error message and the software would crash.
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I believe you're saying that WeatherLink.com has downtime and communication issues (if that's not what you are saying, then please correct me).  Problems that exist with WeatherLink.com are not the fault of the WeatherLinkIP.
You are correct.
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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2011, 08:48:07 PM »

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I didn't find any reports of problems using any software (WeatherLink, Cumulus, WD, etc.) other than VWS, with the WeatherLinkIP logger.

Yeah, just did some looking and there are some users that are experiencing lock-ups between WLIP and WL software. The data logger would give an error message and the software would crash.


Could you please provide either the names of the users, or (preferably) the thread URL, so I can take a look and add that to the research?

Thanks.
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2011, 10:59:16 PM »

It would be nearly impossible to give you hundreds of them.
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2011, 11:04:10 PM »

It would be nearly impossible to give you hundreds of them.

Four, please.
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2011, 11:19:19 PM »

I've been using the WeatherLink IP datalogger for almost a year, and have experienced problems with both VWS and weatherlink 5.9.2  losing communication with it.

I started using Cumulus recently and the Cumulus software has not missed a beat.

 This alone leads me to believe it's a problem with these other two software programs, and not simply the WeatherLink IP dongle itself.

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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2011, 07:09:24 AM »

Thats what I'm saying, don't use the WeatherLink software or WeatherLink IP.
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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2011, 10:24:59 AM »

I've been using the WeatherLink IP datalogger for almost a year, and have experienced problems with both VWS and weatherlink 5.9.2  losing communication with it.

Still trying to do the research.  Was there a problem when using only WeatherLink?  Or when using only VWS?  Or when using both at the same time?
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 11:24:05 AM »

With a typical WeatherlinkIP TCP/IP setup only one software application at a time can access the communication port which the data stream is being sent, the default TCP port is 22222.

There are virtual port emulation software programs that one could run, which will allow multiple programs to access the data simultaneously, but I never bothered to go there.

My experience was with either program running everything would be okay for a day, maybe two, then lose communication. Or at least that was the error indication given. My station was on a static IP address, so is my desktop, so there were no DHCP lease expiration/renewals which could potentially interrupt a session.

I have just now moved everything over to using a Weatherlink serial datalogger- via a serial/USB converter direct connection to my PC, I'm interested to see how that plays out, taking the station off of my LAN, even though Cumulus was working flawlessly on TCP/IP.

I let Cumulus do all the "heavy-lifting" for me.  Cool
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 12:17:04 PM »

OK, thanks for the answer.
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