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Title: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: SLOweather on February 11, 2007, 12:48:36 AM
I've always wondered what all of the messages and forecasts were that the VP2 console could generate. When I saw "IT"S RAINING CATS AND DOGS" go by on the display a little while ago, I decided to see what I could find.

Yesterday I updated 2 VP2s to the new firmware, so I just happen to have the flash.bin file handy. I opened it in WordPad and searched on DOGS and found a block of text with all the advisory messages in it.

Then I searched for PRECIPITATION and found all of the possible forecasts.

Here they are, edited out of the rest of the code, for anyone else who might be interested:

WIND WARNING, LOW WIND CHILL ADVISORY, WARNING, LOW WIND CHILL, DRESS WARMLY, FROSTBITE OR HYPOTHERMIA POSSIBLE, DANGEROUSLY LOW WIND CHILL,DANGER, EXTREMELY LOW WIND CHILL, RISK OF FREEZING EXPOSED SKIN, HIGH HEAT INDEX ADVISORY, WARNING, HIGH HEAT INDEX, HEATSTROKE OR HEAT EXHAUSTION POSSIBLE, DANGEROUSLY HIGH HEAT INDEX, DANGER, HIGH HEAT INDEX, HEATSTROKE OR HEAT EXHAUSTION LIKELY, KITE FLYING WEATHER, HOLD ONTO YOUR HAT, IT'S RAINING CATS AND DOGS, LAST 15 MIN. OF RAIN, LAST 24 HOUR OF RAIN, 10 MIN. AVG. WIND SPEED, LOW BATTERY ON STATION X, LOW CONSOLE BATTERIES, LOW BATTERY ON REPEATER


MOSTLY CLEAR AND COOLER. MOSTLY CLEAR WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. MOSTLY CLEAR FOR 12 HRS WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. MOSTLY CLEAR FOR 12-24 HRS AND COOLER. MOSTLY CLEAR AND WARMER. MOSTLY CLEAR FOR 6-12 HRS WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. MOSTLY CLEAR FOR 12-24 HRS WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. INCREASING CLOUDS AND WARMER. INCREASING CLOUDS WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. INCREASING CLOUDS AND COOLER. CLEARING AND COOLER. CLEARING, COOLER AND WINDY. MOSTLY CLOUDY AND COOLER. MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. FORECAST NOT READY YET. PRECIPITATION CONTINUING. PRECIPITATION CONTINUING, POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES. PRECIPITATION LIKELY. PRECIPITATION LIKELY, POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES. PRECIPITATION ENDING WITHIN 6 HRS. PRECIPITATION ENDING WITHIN 12 HRS. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES AND ENDING WITHIN 12 HRS. PRECIPITATION ENDING IN 12-24 HRS. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 6 HRS. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE AND WINDY WITHIN 6 HRS. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 6-12 HRS, POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 6-12 HRS. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 12 HRS. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 12 HRS, POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 12-24 HRS. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 24 HRS. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 24-48 HRS. PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 48 HRS. INCREASING WINDS. WINDY. POSSIBLE WIND SHIFT TO THE W, NW, OR N. WINDY WITH POSSIBLE WIND SHIFT TO THE W, NW, OR N. PARTLY CLOUDY AND COOLER. PARTLY CLOUDY WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. POSSIBLE WIND SHIFT TO THE W, SW, OR S. WINDY WITH POSSIBLE WIND SHIFT TO THE W, SW, OR S.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: davey6693 on December 12, 2010, 09:14:25 AM
Ha! I was going to ask about this a while back. Thanks for posting it.

I thought I was seeing things when I saw "IT'S RAINING CATS AND DOGS" on there once. I had a mouthful of coffee at the time and did well not to lose it through laughter. I haven't seen any of the wind chill or heat index ones which is odd for the last little while up here in Ontario..
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: gwfrench9 on December 13, 2010, 08:08:09 AM
I was wondering about this, and yesterday during the rain, I got Cats and Dogs.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: stormtracker on December 19, 2010, 10:10:13 PM
They need one more message for us high-plains weather enthusiasts: "watch out for blowing tumbleweeds."
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Cienega32 on December 25, 2010, 03:53:28 AM
They need one more message for us high-plains weather enthusiasts: "watch out for blowing tumbleweeds."

Same here. I don't fly kites anymore ("Kite flying weather") but I DO dodge tumbleweeds often enough.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: d_l on January 07, 2011, 12:57:53 AM
A more formatted version of all the Davis messages:

HIGH WIND WARNING
LOW WIND CHILL ADVISORY WARNING, LOW WIND CHILL, DRESS WARMLY, FROSTBITE OR HYPOTHERMIA POSSIBLE
DANGEROUSLY LOW WIND CHILL DANGER, EXTREMELY LOW WIND CHILL, RISK OF FREEZING EXPOSED SKIN
HIGH HEAT INDEX ADVISORY WARNING, HIGH HEAT INDEX, HEATSTROKE OR HEAT EXHAUSTION POSSIBLE
DANGEROUSLY HIGH HEAT INDEX DANGER, HIGH HEAT INDEX, HEATSTROKE OR HEAT EXHAUSTION LIKELY
KITE FLYING WEATHER HOLD ONTO YOUR HAT 
IT'S RAINING CATS AND DOGS 
LAST 15 MIN. OF RAIN
LAST 24 HOUR OF RAIN
10 MIN. AVG. WIND SPEED
LOW BATTERY ON STATION X
LOW CONSOLE BATTERIES
LOW BATTERY ON REPEATER X

MOSTLY CLEAR AND COOLER. 
MOSTLY CLEAR WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. 
MOSTLY CLEAR FOR 12 HRS WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. 
MOSTLY CLEAR FOR 12-24 HRS AND COOLER. 
MOSTLY CLEAR AND WARMER. 
MOSTLY CLEAR FOR 6-12 HRS WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. 
MOSTLY CLEAR FOR 12-24 HRS WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE.     
INCREASING CLOUDS AND WARMER. 
INCREASING CLOUDS WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. 
INCREASING CLOUDS AND COOLER. 
CLEARING AND COOLER. 
CLEARING, COOLER AND WINDY.   
MOSTLY CLOUDY AND COOLER. 
MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. 
FORECAST NOT READY YET. 
PRECIPITATION CONTINUING. 
PRECIPITATION CONTINUING, POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES. 
PRECIPITATION LIKELY. 
PRECIPITATION LIKELY, POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES. 
PRECIPITATION ENDING WITHIN 6 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION ENDING WITHIN 12 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES AND ENDING WITHIN 12 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION ENDING IN 12-24 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 6 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE AND WINDY WITHIN 6 HRS.   
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 6-12 HRS, POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES. 
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 6-12 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 12 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 12 HRS, POSSIBLY HEAVY AT TIMES.   
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 12-24 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 24 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 24-48 HRS. 
PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE WITHIN 48 HRS.   
INCREASING WINDS. 
WINDY. 
POSSIBLE WIND SHIFT TO THE W, NW, OR N. 
WINDY WITH POSSIBLE WIND SHIFT TO THE W, NW, OR N. 
PARTLY CLOUDY AND COOLER. 
PARTLY CLOUDY WITH LITTLE TEMP CHANGE. 
POSSIBLE WIND SHIFT TO THE W, SW, OR S. 
WINDY WITH POSSIBLE WIND SHIFT TO THE W, SW, OR S.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: paradigm on February 08, 2011, 02:59:07 PM
I love these messages!  Definitely need more of them.  It would be nice if you could set different language modes i.e. Pirate mode.

"'tis rainin' cats an' dogs"
"arr me bri'ches be a tostin"
"ye' old wind be pickin' up"

Just some ideas. :)
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Sigdigit on February 09, 2011, 09:07:05 AM
I noticed the only time mine showed heat or chill warnings was when the graph view icon was next to that particular reading (chill or heat readout display).  I usually keep my heat/chill display set to THSW, and the graph icon on the temperature readout, so I don't see the chill/heat advisories unless I switch things up.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: moehoward4 on March 12, 2011, 09:13:17 AM
It will show 'It's Raining Cats and Dogs' when the 'rain rate' hits .30 inches/hour and above.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: chief-david on April 10, 2011, 03:20:40 PM
Some of my messages don't have a period at the end.   :?

I may teach science but grammar is important to me.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Skywatch on April 24, 2011, 12:57:05 PM
The ticker tape is probably the most amazing thing of any weather station. The past few nights when the fronts moved through my North Texas area, the VP2 has predicted all of them, "Increasing clouds with little temperature change, precipitation possable within 12 Hrs, possably heavy at times, windy with possable wind shift W, NW, N). Every time the station has said this, it's happened.
For new VP2 owners, correctly set the data into the console regarding rain season, longitude, latitude, altitude durring the setup process. Call or email your local NWS office to find out your area's rainy season. Once the info is put into the console the first 2 weeks the forecasting system in the VP2 will change it's mind frequently. This is when the console is in the process of learning and adjusting to the climate and weather patterns. After a few weeks, the forecasting will be almost on the spot accurate.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Sunfish on April 24, 2011, 04:13:19 PM
Well, I have to say that the forecasts, generated by the Cumulus software, are pretty good.

I do have the option of the VP2 or Cumulus generated forecasts, but am sticking with Cumulus for now.

We have enjoyed some wonderful hot and settled weather in the UK, but the VP2 hasn't properly reflected that. It totally missed a huge thunderstorm, last night--the first rain here for 3 weeks, with 0.88 inches over 2 1/2 hours. It gave me the "cats and dogs" but, by then, the downpour was torrential.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Ugly Duckling on June 26, 2011, 07:16:32 PM
The ticker tape is probably the most amazing thing of any weather station. The past few nights when the fronts moved through my North Texas area, the VP2 has predicted all of them, "Increasing clouds with little temperature change, precipitation possable within 12 Hrs, possably heavy at times, windy with possable wind shift W, NW, N). Every time the station has said this, it's happened.
For new VP2 owners, correctly set the data into the console regarding rain season, longitude, latitude, altitude durring the setup process. Call or email your local NWS office to find out your area's rainy season. Once the info is put into the console the first 2 weeks the forecasting system in the VP2 will change it's mind frequently. This is when the console is in the process of learning and adjusting to the climate and weather patterns. After a few weeks, the forecasting will be almost on the spot accurate.

I'm curious on the Pro2, can you easily read the ticker tape? I had a Acurite that I returned. The ticker on that was nearly impossible to read. The display was very light requiring the instrument to be held and tilted just right to read it.

Many Happy Weather Changes,

Marci Anna


Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Aardvark on June 26, 2011, 11:39:16 PM
with the backlight on the VP2 is pretty clear..  you don't want to keep the backlight on, as it warms the console and you get a higher indoor temperature and a lower humidity, but for the short haul it works out.

I am under the impression that since the VP2 can read the Vantage Vue  transmission,  if it is that big of a deal, you can always get a vp2 console.  you have to shop around for that thing as it is costly.   I have two of them and an Envoy (not the 8x).   I have one by the computer up here, one in the kitchen  and the Envoy by the one up here (that computer is in the basement for the weather as I just don't have the space up here for it.)

One thing you might try is different light angle on the console face to see if that will bring up the readout.  IF it is a problem write Davis tech support and maybe they will generate a firmware update  to intensify the reading and then...

IF you use weatherlink, and go to the summary page, the console message will be on the computer screen, if you want it
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Ugly Duckling on June 27, 2011, 10:36:28 AM


IF you use weatherlink, and go to the summary page, the console message will be on the computer screen, if you want it

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "IF you use weatherlink, and go to the summary page, the console message will be on the computer screen, if you want it" I don't understand the part 'if you want it'. I see no on and off switch.

Many Happy Weather Changes,

Marci Anna

Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: neondesert on June 27, 2011, 11:12:17 AM
I'm not sure what you mean when you say "IF you use weatherlink, and go to the summary page, the console message will be on the computer screen, if you want it"

- On the menu bar at the top use your mouse to single click on the word Window.
- A drop down menu will appear.
- Using your mouse single click on the word "Summary"
- Your screen now be displaying the Summary Page.
- Look at the very bottom of the screen and you will see "Forecast:"
- The console message will be to the right of the word Forecast.

Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Ugly Duckling on June 27, 2011, 11:56:10 AM
I'm not sure what you mean when you say "IF you use weatherlink, and go to the summary page, the console message will be on the computer screen, if you want it"

- On the menu bar at the top use your mouse to single click on the word Window.
- A drop down menu will appear.
- Using your mouse single click on the word "Summary"
- Your screen now be displaying the Summary Page.
- Look at the very bottom of the screen and you will see "Forecast:"
- The console message will be to the right of the word Forecast.



Yes I saw that, thought you meant something else

Thanks,

Many Happy Weather Changes,

Marci Anna

Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: mbuster on June 29, 2011, 08:46:04 PM
Right now, I wish I could see "It is raining cat"
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Skywatch on June 29, 2011, 09:02:47 PM
Right now, I wish I could see "It is raining cat"
I 2nd that.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: bayu on June 29, 2011, 11:46:24 PM
Cat And Dog rain is because Tipping Bucket is tipping too much, at list  4 time as many as data transmit speed, 4data  per 2.5 S every davis station  transmitting to logger 0.8 mm of rain falls with constant and increase, that happen in 3 to 5 minute..   
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Aardvark on June 30, 2011, 12:13:19 AM
could be raining weasels
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: hswaters on August 12, 2011, 03:14:12 PM
I just noticed that my vantage vue shows the message Perseid meteor showers.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: SlowModem on August 12, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
I just noticed that my vantage vue shows the message Perseid meteor showers.

Yep, it's supposed to peak tonight.  They say the best time to look is in the early morning as the moon is setting (because the full moon will interfere with meteor viewing).
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: SlowModem on August 13, 2011, 04:45:54 AM
I went up on the roof here at work for a few minutes to take a peek.  Got to see the ISS flying over plus a few meteors.  It was starting to get hazy, as there is rain predicted for later today.

If anyone's interested, here's a link to see if the ISS is going to fly over your location and when:

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/index.html
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Dan Richman on November 21, 2011, 10:17:04 AM
mcxTXaws wrote: "This is when the console is in the process of learning and adjusting to the climate and weather patterns. After a few weeks, the forecasting will be almost on the spot accurate."

Can anyone shed light on the console's purported ability to "learn"? Does it exist? If so, how does it work?

Thanks.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: George Richardson on November 21, 2011, 10:38:00 AM
"Can anyone shed light on the console's purported ability to "learn"? Does it exist? If so, how does it work?"

None of my 3 consoles have learned Jack. I look at the console forecast as a novelty. I use Wxsim for forecasts.

FWIW
George
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Skywatch on November 21, 2011, 11:36:27 AM
mcxTXaws wrote: "This is when the console is in the process of learning and adjusting to the climate and weather patterns. After a few weeks, the forecasting will be almost on the spot accurate."

Can anyone shed light on the console's purported ability to "learn"? Does it exist? If so, how does it work?

Thanks.
Forecasting requires some data to be built up. No station the market that I know of can produce a forecast when first powered on. The Davis bases it's forecast on current conditions (wind temperature humidity air pressure any rain events even solar radiation on Plus models) and trends over a given period of time. Remember the forecast it gives is for the general area. Even if it says "Rain" or "Sun" thats for a large area. Give the console some time at least 3 hours the forecast will slowly become better as the console learns the weather patterns.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: d_l on November 21, 2011, 11:54:14 AM
Give the console some time at least 3 hours the forecast will slowly become better as the console learns the weather patterns.

The 3 hour minimum time requirement is to allow the console to establish a 3 hour barometric trend.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Skywatch on November 21, 2011, 12:19:47 PM
Give the console some time at least 3 hours the forecast will slowly become better as the console learns the weather patterns.

The 3 hour minimum time requirement is to allow the console to establish a 3 hour barometric trend.
But still unless it knows the trend, like if the barometer was rising it won't say "rain"  It'll say "forecast not ready" after being powered up. Missing pressure trend is like the missing peice of the puzzle. For us when the wind is out of the south at 10-15 MPH temperature's are around 60-70 humidity is about 60% and the pressure drops like a bullet the console would display something like
"Increasing clouds and cooler, precipitation possible in 6 to 12 hr, windy with possible wind shift to W, NW or N". Without that pressure trend the console doesn't have a clear answer. The pressure trend is a vital puzzle peice.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Dan Richman on November 21, 2011, 12:36:47 PM
A related question:

The documentation for the console says, "Your console generates a weather forecast based on the barometric reading & trend, wind speed & direction, rainfall, temperature, humidity, latitude & longitude, and time of year."

So apparently it doesn't factor in solar radiation or UV, right? I am hoping that perhaps it does, as including those would probably lead to better forecasts.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Bushman on November 21, 2011, 12:55:12 PM
A related question:

The documentation for the console says, "Your console generates a weather forecast based on the barometric reading & trend, wind speed & direction, rainfall, temperature, humidity, latitude & longitude, and time of year."

So apparently it doesn't factor in solar radiation or UV, right? I am hoping that perhaps it does, as including those would probably lead to better forecasts.

How do you propose that UV and solar would lead to better forecasts??
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Skywatch on November 21, 2011, 12:55:41 PM
A related question:

The documentation for the console says, "Your console generates a weather forecast based on the barometric reading & trend, wind speed & direction, rainfall, temperature, humidity, latitude & longitude, and time of year."

So apparently it doesn't factor in solar radiation or UV, right? I am hoping that perhaps it does, as including those would probably lead to better forecasts.
It does if you email Davis tech support. Here's the email I got,

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi,

 

The solar data is used for some weather forecast predictions so it is possible that you will see different forecasts.

 

Eric Nickl
Technical Support
Davis Instruments
510-732-7814
support@davisnet.com

 

 

 

From: Matthew McGee [mailto:matthewjp-mcgee@att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:55 AM
To: Webmaster
Subject: Solar radiation data question.

 

Dear Davis, I had a question about VP2+ or a Vantage Pro with a solar radiation sensor on it. Before I added solar radiation to the station, the forecast used to confuse cloudy days saying, "clear skys" when clouds were rolling in. Since I added the solar radiation sensor, it's much more accurate on cloud conditions. Does the VP2 console put solar data into the forecasting algorithm equasion provided solar data is avalible through the solar radiation sensor?
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Don't take my word for it. I'm only repeating what I was told.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Dan Richman on November 21, 2011, 01:11:00 PM
Great info, mckTXaws.

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: meteo.quimper on December 25, 2011, 11:53:02 AM
Hi

I searching tips for translating (french) the firmware of the vp2 console ?

The firmware is available as single .bin file for using with the davis VP2 updater interface and as .exe file for direct updating within the davis dataloger 6510.
I opened the file VP2_1_90.exe with notepad++ and  i translated the word THANKS:

(http://www.meteo-quimper.fr/davis-vp2-firm-edit-1.jpg)

And now

(http://www.meteo-quimper.fr/davis-vp2-firm-edit-2.jpg)
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: meteo.quimper on December 26, 2011, 03:37:47 PM
i saved the file VP2_1_90.exe, stardted the upgrade, everything was ok, i restarted the console and.. the screen is freeze i can do nothing, i retry to upgrade with the original firmware, the console work now !!!

What is wrong the why the the console is was freezed ?
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Bushman on January 03, 2012, 12:06:42 PM
Maybe a checksum issue?  MERCI and Thanks are also different string lengths.  What happens if you use a string the same length as THANKS?
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: dalecoy on January 03, 2012, 01:58:57 PM
Maybe a checksum issue?  MERCI and Thanks are also different string lengths.  What happens if you use a string the same length as THANKS?

I agree it's probably a checksum issue.  However, the string that was substituted was the same length.  "MERCI "
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: meteo.quimper on January 08, 2012, 11:13:57 AM
hi

i also try with the MERCIS instead of MERCI, MERCIS had the exact number of letter than THANKS and same problem, when i put the original unmodified firmware the direct pc software say: bootloader ok, firmware: not, it's like when i want to upload the modified firmware, the console errase the instaled firmware (the bootloader stay untouched), but don't install the new translated firmware, no errors on the dialog but there is no reboot at the end, i must reboot the console myself, after the reboot the console only one beep and the display is freezed... everything goes ok if i retry to flash the console with the original firmware...
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: dalecoy on January 08, 2012, 11:29:58 AM
Just to check your process:

Take a copy of the original .bin file -
Replace "THANKS" with "MERCI " and save it.
Next edit it to replace "MERCI " with "THANKS", save it and try the console update. 

If you carefully replace everything as original, and it works OK, then it is almost certainly a checksum issue.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Bushman on January 09, 2012, 09:33:47 PM
hi

i also try with the MERCIS instead of MERCI, MERCIS had the exact number of letter than THANKS and same problem, when i put the original unmodified firmware the direct pc software say: bootloader ok, firmware: not, it's like when i want to upload the modified firmware, the console errase the instaled firmware (the bootloader stay untouched), but don't install the new translated firmware, no errors on the dialog but there is no reboot at the end, i must reboot the console myself, after the reboot the console only one beep and the display is freezed... everything goes ok if i retry to flash the console with the original firmware...

The checksums for THANKS and MERCIs are df89e795839ea42c0425275caa0e08fc and
e78dec48bcf672e3ad9042ae4191f27e respectively.  Different.  Sorry.  Maybe the .bin file will work.

What is bizarre to me is that there was  a guy in France who was able to  translate Weatherlink to French; I wrote him but never got a reply.  So it might be possible some way...
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: DeKay on January 10, 2012, 01:47:03 PM
I PM'ed C5250 on this.  He says there is no checksum in the BIN file so it would be the updater that is doing the check.  So I believe you should be able to mod the .BIN file and then use avrdude / ponyprog / whatever to get the new file on the console.  But that is just a theory.  Give it a try, and if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces.   :-)
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: meteo.quimper on February 23, 2012, 05:20:03 AM
Hi

I get the Davis VP2 updater (6311VP2) to put the modified firmware FLASH.BIN and i have the same problem that with the direct pc update, so the console made a checksum verification before flashing the new firmware...

I opened the updater and there is a ATMEGA 128L inside:

https://picasaweb.google.com/110350271154600350738/DavisVP2Updater6311VP2?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCN-Xi_-bjau61wE&feat=directlink (https://picasaweb.google.com/110350271154600350738/DavisVP2Updater6311VP2?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCN-Xi_-bjau61wE&feat=directlink)

More infos about ATMEGA128 firmwares: http://wiki.hacdc.org/index.php/Secure_bootloader (http://wiki.hacdc.org/index.php/Secure_bootloader)
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: KF5APO on March 23, 2012, 07:33:24 PM
I had been wondering about the ticker tape messages.
Thanks for Posting and Sharing them Guys!.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: C5250 on October 08, 2012, 11:40:39 PM
Not sure if this has been documented anywhere, but I found this in the original VP firmware history doc...

Code: [Select]
if ( wind10Min >= 25 && wind10Min < 40 && currentGraph == 0)
// HOLD ONTO YOUR HAT
PushCommentNo (10);

if ( wind10Min >= 8 && wind10Min < 18 && currentGraph == 0 &&
windChill < 80 && windChill > 60 && GetRainStorm (CURRENT, 0) == 0

&& LightOutside ())
PushCommentNo (9);                   // KITE FLYING WEATHER

tmp = GetCurrentVar ();
if ( windChill <= -30 && windChill > -50 && wind10Min >=10
&& (tmp == WIND_SPEED_VAR || tmp == CHILL_VAR || tmp ==

TEMP_OUT_VAR))
PushCommentNo (1);                // LOW CHILL ADVISORY

if ( heatIndex >= 105 && heatIndex < 115 &&
(tmp == TEMP_OUT_VAR || tmp == HUM_OUT_VAR || tmp == HEAT_VAR || tmp ==

THSW_VAR) )
PushCommentNo (5);                      // HEAT ADVISORY

Dated as the 31 May 2001 version, so things might have changed since then.

Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: Bluezx636 on November 25, 2012, 07:24:31 AM
Does the vantage vue mostly display whats in the first paragraph or is it totally different?

WIND WARNING, LOW WIND CHILL ADVISORY, WARNING, LOW WIND CHILL, DRESS WARMLY, FROSTBITE OR HYPOTHERMIA POSSIBLE, DANGEROUSLY LOW WIND CHILL,DANGER, EXTREMELY LOW WIND CHILL, RISK OF FREEZING EXPOSED SKIN, HIGH HEAT INDEX ADVISORY, WARNING, HIGH HEAT INDEX, HEATSTROKE OR HEAT EXHAUSTION POSSIBLE, DANGEROUSLY HIGH HEAT INDEX, DANGER, HIGH HEAT INDEX, HEATSTROKE OR HEAT EXHAUSTION LIKELY, KITE FLYING WEATHER, HOLD ONTO YOUR HAT, IT'S RAINING CATS AND DOGS, LAST 15 MIN. OF RAIN, LAST 24 HOUR OF RAIN, 10 MIN. AVG. WIND SPEED, LOW BATTERY ON STATION X, LOW CONSOLE BATTERIES, LOW BATTERY ON REPEATER
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: C5250 on November 25, 2012, 11:25:31 PM
I thought I posted this before, but can't seem to find it...

Much the same, but there are some differences:
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HIGH WIND WARNING
LOW CHILL ADVISORY
WARNING LOW WIND CHILL DRESS WARMLY FROSTBITE OR HYPOTHERMIA POSSIBLE
DANGEROUSLY LOW CHILL
DANGER EXTREMELY LOW WIND CHILL RISK OF FREEZING EXPOSED SKIN
HEAT INDEX ADVISORY
WARNING HIGH HEAT INDEX HEATSTROKE OR HEAT EXHAUSTION POSSIBLE
DANGEROUSLY HI HEAT IDX
DANGER HIGH HEAT INDEX HEATSTROKE OR HEAT EXHAUSTION LIKELY
KITE FLYING WEATHER
HOLD ONTO YOUR HAT
BLUE MOON
ITS RAINING CATS N DOGS
LUNAR ECLIPSE
SOLAR ECLIPSE
SPRING EQUINOX
SUMMER SOLSTICE
AUTUMN EQUINOX
WINTER SOLSTICE
LOW BATTERY TRANSMITTERn
LOW CONSOLE BATTERIES
LOW BATTERY REPEATER X
QUADRANTIDS METEOR SHWR
LYRIDS METEOR SHWR
E AQUARIDS METEOR SHWR
PERSEIDS METEOR SHWR
ORIONIDS METEOR SHWR
TAURIDS METEOR SHWR
LEONIDS METEOR SHWR
GEMINIDS METEOR SHWR
URSIDS METEOR SHWR
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: jackman on January 03, 2013, 03:51:53 PM
I got the message for the Quadrantid meteor shower on my new VVue console this morning. I went looking for how it knew and came upon this thread. Thanks for the info.

A very fun feature.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: TheMOX on May 22, 2013, 09:38:48 AM
I just bought a new Vantage Pro2 to replace my original (and weather beaten) Pro.  I plugged in the old WeatherlinkIP and got a new message (for the list)

Incompatible Datalogger

A swap replacement is on its way. Thanks to version 3.12 for checking for an "authentic" datalogger.

Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: moehoward4 on July 19, 2013, 03:17:57 PM
'Dangerously High Heat Index'    94F temp., 81F DP 65% Humidity     and it is D*MN HOT here right now
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: fidsplice on December 17, 2013, 05:52:15 AM
Would be surprised if there is heuristic capability in the software (the ability to dynamically learn). The algorithms for weather prediction are pretty solid and accurate. Local influence doesn't change the big picture.

Re messages - there once was a wonderful entry in an IBM technical manual (when they were allowed to have a sense of humour, which said "Recursion: - see Recursion"
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: dcriner on June 14, 2016, 03:39:55 PM
Can anyone shed light on the console's purported ability to "learn"? Does it exist? If so, how does it work?
If forecasting could be "learned" by the VP2, I think it would require feedback. For example, if the original forecast is for heavy rain within 4 hours, then conceivably, any actual rain measured, could be used to adjust the forecasting methodology. I doubt that this "learning" capability is built into the console - it would require some pretty fancy programming. And wouldn't Davis be touting the capability in their marketing?

And, some of the built-in forecasts, such as cloudy weather, aren't measured, unless optional solar measurement is added.

I wonder if any perceived forecasting improvement over time is an illusion due to human factors.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: CW2274 on June 14, 2016, 03:44:20 PM
Can anyone shed light on the console's purported ability to "learn"? Does it exist? If so, how does it work?
If forecasting could be "learned" by the VP2, I think it would require feedback. For example, if the original forecast is for heavy rain within 4 hours, then conceivably, any actual rain measured, could be used to adjust the forecasting methodology. I doubt that this "learning" capability is built into the console - it would require some pretty fancy programming. And wouldn't Davis be touting the capability in their marketing?

And, some of the built-in forecasts, such as cloudy weather, aren't measured, unless optional solar measurement is added.

I wonder if any perceived forecasting improvement over time is an illusion due to human factors.
In case you're unaware, you're replying to a 4 1/2 year old thread.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: WxLover16 on September 26, 2016, 08:35:15 PM
How often do people actually press the forecast button on their console to see the forecast? Even though I obviously know it's not extremely accurate (most of the time), I usually look at it everyday, just for the hell of it, and because it's a cool feature.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: PaulMy on September 26, 2016, 09:09:30 PM
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How often do people actually press the forecast button on their console to see the forecast? Even though I obviously know it's not extremely accurate (most of the time), I usually look at it everyday, just for the hell of it, and because it's a cool feature.
I look at my console maybe once a day, and never at the forecast.  I use my weather computer for the Davis forecast AND other better forecasts...

Paul
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: CW2274 on September 26, 2016, 09:48:02 PM
In my neck of the woods, the forecast function that the Davis console supplies is at the very least, laughable. Very rarely correct, however, considering all of what it uses for deduction, no surprise. All in all, basically worthless.
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: ConligWX on September 27, 2016, 02:17:21 AM
I went up on the roof here at work for a few minutes to take a peek.  Got to see the ISS flying over plus a few meteors.  It was starting to get hazy, as there is rain predicted for later today.

If anyone's interested, here's a link to see if the ISS is going to fly over your location and when:

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/index.html

Nice, I have an embed ISS tracker on my website,, it takes a few seconds to load but gives full track around the earth.

http://www.conligwx.org/wxiss.php
Title: Re: VP2 Console Messages and Forecasts List
Post by: jackman on September 27, 2016, 06:52:12 AM

Nice, I have an embed ISS tracker on my website,, it takes a few seconds to load but gives full track around the earth.

http://www.conligwx.org/wxiss.php

Very cool! Thanks for sharing.