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Title: Fall 2016
Post by: zackdog on August 26, 2016, 12:22:44 PM
Fall has arrived.  Some of the aspens have begun to turn yellow.  I have had 14 days with an over night low in the 30°s so far in August, but none below freezing.  The peaks have been white with snow twice in the last week.

I love Fall.

Mark

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Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on August 26, 2016, 01:52:31 PM
I have no interest in snow and am not fond of 30s, but I'm about done with The Muggies, so I'll welcome October.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on August 26, 2016, 02:19:01 PM
October is when the snows start staying and temps dip to stay around the zero mark before they plunge below it in November. Aspen and Birch here been yellowing up since mid august. Getting close to hibernation time.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: W3DRM on August 26, 2016, 04:35:49 PM
October is when the snows start staying and temps dip to stay around the zero mark before they plunge below it in November. Aspen and Birch here been yellowing up since mid august. Getting close to hibernation time.

John

Hi John - just had to ask - is that "your" hibernation or the animals?  ;)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on August 28, 2016, 03:46:16 PM
It is both me and the  bears.  Most the other critter are active all winter. Hopefully the lynx and fox in the area will whittle down the rabbit population a bit this winter. With rabbit population high so is tulimeria or rabbit fever. Nasty stuff if you get it thru cleaning and skinning a rabbit. Also it pasted along into dogs and cats where they come in contact with sick bunny. Hope the cow moose and her two calves stick around like they been.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on August 28, 2016, 03:53:46 PM
I sometimes have a feeling that for some people that I work with hibernation period starts on Jan 1st and ends on Dec 31st.. :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on August 29, 2016, 09:32:43 PM
First freeze this morning for the 16/17 winter season. Got down to 31. Now to enjoy the brief Indian summer. Was a bit cool last night as was out watching northern neon hoping to get some pixs. They stayed in what I call ghost lights where the gas glows but never fires up. After I put camera away about 0230 crawled into bed and looked out window and the lights where going crazy.
Never fails. Laird there in bed watching them till I fell to snore land.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on August 31, 2016, 12:10:02 PM
Last day of August goes out with an overnight low at 29 deg. Looks like be digging taters this week end. NWS saying temps for weekend above normal with lows into high 30's. But these clear nights are allowing \emps to drop more here at our area due to micro climes.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: MonumentHillWeather on August 31, 2016, 02:03:58 PM
It's been one of the warmer and drier summers that I can remember in a while here in Maine. The weaker trees (mostly maples and some birches) are starting to turn colors here as well, but it won't be another few weeks before things really start to pop. Peak foliage here in West-Central Maine is late September through mid October.

We've only been as low as 45F so far this month. Should see our first frost sometime soon hopefully. I'm a big fan of the cooler weather, so this summer has been tough with high heat and humidity throughout (by Maine standards that is!)  ;)

  - Matt
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Aardvark on August 31, 2016, 07:47:34 PM
Iowa has been quite different, a lot of rain and heat. So far this month we've had 6.70 inches of rain.   More rain this weekend.    Depends on who you ask, but winter probably will be harsh in this climate, with a lot of moisture and with that snow and cold.   I hate ice.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on September 02, 2016, 02:48:19 PM
28 deg here this AM. Northern lights were in good show last night about 3 AM meranding  across the sky like an river north to east. Watch them for an bit. With this cooler weather cranberries are ripping and the xyl is busy out picking most of the day. Still getting some late blueberries.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: MonumentHillWeather on September 02, 2016, 04:57:33 PM
28 deg here this AM. Northern lights were in good show last night about 3 AM meranding  across the sky like an river north to east.
John
Send some of that cool weather here! Our low this morning in Leeds, Maine was 52F, with the low only dropping down to around 47F tonight. We're still waiting for that first forecasted low in the 30's, and I can't wait for it to happen! I did go for a hike up one of our local 4,000FT mountains earlier today however and it was only in the mid 40's for a high.

Apparently (I wasn't awake to see them) the Northern Lights were spectacular in our area last night too. Here is a photo that a local meteorologist shared from a weather viewer here in Western Maine. I'll have to keep my eye out for them more often!

   - Matt
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: zackdog on September 10, 2016, 08:55:40 AM
Low this morning, 25.3° F.  Aspens yesterday.  Some have already lost their leaves.

Mark

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Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on September 10, 2016, 09:15:42 AM
Its crazy over here....

So in August we had daily maximums even as low as 12C (53F), which is very rare. And now? As Im writing this, it is sunny and temperature 33C (92F). What a nice fall... I think I should post about current weather here in the Summer 2016 thread...
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: PaulMy on September 10, 2016, 09:26:43 AM
Mark, that is some beautiful colour!  We are still 3 to 4 weeks away from such beauty...

Enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: MonumentHillWeather on September 10, 2016, 09:30:09 AM
Mark, that is some beautiful colour!  We are still 3 to 4 weeks away from such beauty...

Enjoy,
Paul

Same for us here in Western Maine, about 3 weeks away. We had a high temp of 88F yesterday which was close to a record high! Still hasn't felt much like fall here yet, but next week highs should be in the 60's with lows in the 30's and 40's. I'm ready for the cooler weather and bright fall colors for sure!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on September 10, 2016, 09:39:12 AM
Just spoke with my colleagues upstairs from the forecasting department, so 10 minutes ago we broke the alltime record for Sep 10th...
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on September 10, 2016, 01:45:16 PM
On the back side of Hermine there was a prolonged NNE flow.
Got down to 62 here! I know some of you are rolling your eyes but that felt dam good after this hot summer.
We're about 5 weeks away from our first cold front of the year.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on September 10, 2016, 01:59:30 PM
Ocala I'll share my 29 degrees with you.  After last rain temps dropped again into the 20's. Daytime tps are high 40's to low 50's with some mentioning of snow in next week forecast. Sunday and Monday they are forecasting 50 mph gap winds along the Alcan and my zonal forecast. First stay around snow is generally around Oct. 5th but has come in mid Sept. some years.

John.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on September 12, 2016, 03:33:48 PM
We're in that odd transitional time that isn't really Summer or Fall.  Low this morning was in the low 50s, but highs this week will be upper 80s to near 90.  It gets hot later in the day and doesn't last as long, then falls off quicker after dark.

And the only Wooley Worm I've seen this year so far was an odd light brown, almost butter yellow color.  I'm not sure I recall seeing one that color before.



Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on September 17, 2016, 08:32:08 PM
Rainbow this evening during the rain delay at the stadium for the OSU vs Pittsburgh game at Stillwater.  The storm that went through wasn't severe.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsmHuXdVMAAVEu4.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on September 17, 2016, 08:45:32 PM
Very nicely symmetrical :)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on September 18, 2016, 05:03:51 PM
And the only Wooley Worm I've seen this year so far was an odd light brown, almost butter yellow color.  I'm not sure I recall seeing one that color before.

Saw another one the other day (and only the second one so far this year) that was the same color.  Remains to be seen what, if anything that means.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on September 19, 2016, 08:32:47 AM
Been down in Sun City (Phoenix area) last week and half, still low 100's. I have a choice of relocating here but just can't live in this kind of heat. Its nuts why over 4 million people choose this climate.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: corwyyn on September 19, 2016, 10:07:43 AM
Speaking as one of those 4 million folks I would have to agree to a point, but when January comes and most of the country is walking around in jackets, parkas and heavier clothes we'll be in shirt sleeves with the occasional flannel or windbreaker.  So far this month it's gotten down to 66° but we've got a possibility of moisture with the remnants of Hurricane Paine so it may get cooler. 

But I'm with Weatherhost waiting for October - that's when things really get nice around here!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on September 19, 2016, 01:23:11 PM
This is Brno :-)

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160916.html
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on September 19, 2016, 02:16:14 PM
Been in AZ in January  and people there thought I was crazy  walking around in shorts and Tee. I just smiled then one noticed my trooper license plate. Was coming from Cat school in Peoria to LA to pick up and ship to work to Seattle that was in refurbished at SW Marine.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on September 19, 2016, 03:42:31 PM
But I'm with Weatherhost waiting for October - that's when things really get nice around here!
Yes, October is my favorite month here. It's also our monthly biggest swing in average daily highs, a drop of 9F.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on September 23, 2016, 02:20:14 AM
Wow, the weather lady, Emily Sutton, at KFOR-4, Oklahoma City shows off weather model showing a very rainy weekend in Oklahoma thru 1pm Tues., especially in central areas of the state. If the approaching cold front stalls out for a while as forecast, the more the model will be accurate. It will be followed by the first cool spell of the fall with lows in the 50s.

(http://stillwaterweather.com/images/modelrain.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: zackdog on September 24, 2016, 08:53:56 AM
Well, came home yesterday evening for a resupply for my fishing trip and woke up to this.  The aspen are pretty much done for another year.

Mark

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Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on September 24, 2016, 11:50:23 AM
One thing I dont like about this time of the year here (and same thing happens around the same time in March) is that during the day you feel like wearing a T-shirt and in the evening a  winter jacket. Over the day we have these days temperatures exceeding 20C (approximately 70F), and during the night/in the evening, they drop close to freezing point. So if you are like me going to work in the morning and then coming back home at 11PM, you are either hot during the day, cold in the evening or you have a big bag to which you put all the extra clothes...
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on September 27, 2016, 02:08:09 PM
Days shorting up  as and temperatures are dropping. Highs been in mid 40"s and last night temp  dropped to 24 deg.  Leave are about all off the trees  so if we get snow as they are forcasting it will cut down on tree breakage. Snow flurries  in Fairbanks and  it clouding up here. First stay around winter snow normally hits  first week of Oct.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on October 03, 2016, 01:52:04 AM
I don't know how many are familiar with web worms in the trees.  They come from eggs laid on leaves by moths.  When they hatch in late Summer/early Fall, they spin a web that takes over the end of branches to protect the worms while they feed.  Some trees can get almost covered by them.  Ugly as all get out.  I have a few trees that usually get quite a few of them.  When out walking or driving, the trees look like they have clouds of them.

This year, I've only seen a very few along the roads and none at all on my trees.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: corwyyn on October 03, 2016, 02:19:58 AM
I don't know how many are familiar with web worms in the trees.
When I was a kid we used to have pecan trees at our house and I remember my father making a torch from a gas-soaked rag and a long metal pole to get up and burn out all those webs.  Haven't seen any in I don't know how long but I remember they were a pain to get rid of.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 03, 2016, 05:07:01 AM
First freeze is right on schedule looking like Oct. 6-7th. We have had several in mid 30's already but nothing below 32°F (0°C) yet.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 03, 2016, 09:26:44 AM
The Euro has freezing low temperatures as far south as the South Dakota/Nebraska border for this upcoming Friday morning.

Nothing close to freezing yet in my neck of the woods, but the drought has already begun to drop the leaves here. That's a disappointment for the tourism industry, as the fall colors are a big deal around here.

It's been nice to finally break the humid cycle around here. We had dew points in the lower to middle 70s practically all summer, and finally broke that about a week ago.

Definitely looking forward to the cooler weather.  8-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: BigOkie on October 03, 2016, 10:10:51 AM
My allergies LOVE cold weather, however in Oklahoma, my favorite is the hard freeze (kills ragweed).  In my neck of the woods, that usually averages out to be around the first two weeks of November.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 03, 2016, 11:45:07 AM
What’s different about northern Nebraska the ragweed doesn't seem as bad here as the deserts of northern Arizona. My allergies have almost gone since moving to Ne. even though it’s much wetter and greener. I think it was the Russian thistle (Tumble weeds) I was most allergic. Not sure it’s even considered a rag weed but fall pollen was really bad and once the first freeze occurred allergies cleared up.   
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on October 03, 2016, 01:41:05 PM
Interesting how the weather systems have favored western Oklahoma with so much rain this year that it has been kept clear of any kind of drought now.  The other map from late Sept. is an example of how those rain bearing systems have tended to pretty much exhaust themselves out by the time they arrive to central Oklahoma as in Oklahoma City and my own area.   Further to the east, Tulsa hasn't been getting its fair share, either.  Another rainy period is to set in for a few days starting Tuesday.

(http://stillwaterweather.com/images/drought2016.png)
(http://stillwaterweather.com/images/rainsept25.png)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 04, 2016, 02:36:58 PM
Nippy here this mornibg with our first dip into the teens. 17 degrees along with power outage not sure why power was down. Oh well just throw another log on the fire. time to hibernate.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 05, 2016, 07:07:58 AM
Does it normally drop that cold at night the first week of October John?

We're hanging around 50 this morning, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a few 30s show up on the eastern side of the US for lows by the end of the weekend. Bring on the colder weather.  8-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on October 05, 2016, 05:06:38 PM
Wow, it's October and it warmed up to 91 in Stillwater today, or at least in my backyard.   With a high chance of thunderstorms forecast for Thursday night, hopefully they won't turn real mean.  Last night, it rained nearly 3 inches in the first county north of me.   Only .20" here.  So would settle for it getting a little meaner with the rain. The annual amount rate is still running behind here.

(http://www.mesonet.org/data/public/mesonet/maps/realtime/rainrfc.48hr.png)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 05, 2016, 05:22:00 PM

Hey Farm Talk long time. Yes it is normal for the interior to get that range of temps espically with an omega sitting  smack dab on top of us.  Nice clear nights  with  good displays of  northern lights. Lay in bed watching them  move across the sky from North to the east.
 From  mid September  to now  we can get cold and snow. Last year at this time had 8 inches of snow on the ground.


John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 05, 2016, 08:55:04 PM

Hey Farm Talk long time. Yes it is normal for the interior to get that range of temps espically with an omega sitting  smack dab on top of us.  Nice clear nights  with  good displays of  northern lights. Lay in bed watching them  move across the sky from North to the east.
 From  mid September  to now  we can get cold and snow. Last year at this time had 8 inches of snow on the ground.


John

Have you had a measurable snow yet? I'm a big outdoors person - seeing a northern lights event is definitely on my bucket list.  8-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 05, 2016, 10:26:42 PM
Not yet. Severaal ridges have new snow and it generally 2 weeks from when they get it. Mid  month if present pattern holds

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 06, 2016, 07:27:02 AM
The mountains here got down into the middle 30s last night. Snow isn't as far away as it seems....
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 06, 2016, 10:21:16 AM
38° and light rain this morning expecting our first widespread freeze by morning once the clouds exit area. This is typical for north central Nebraska with first week of October having first freeze.
Some isolated low lying areas where cold air pools IE river bottoms may of already had a light frost being we've had several mid 30's going back into September.   
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: zackdog on October 06, 2016, 11:27:56 AM
Got home from fishing trip yesterday afternoon in time to get the snow board into position.  Was rewarded with a 1.4" reading this morning.

Mark
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 06, 2016, 11:58:09 AM
18 deg here this morning under clear sky. Sun  not over the horizon yet to melt the heavy frost. Ground starting to set up hard in area where sun does not hit during the day.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 06, 2016, 01:17:31 PM
18 deg here this morning under clear sky. Sun  not over the horizon yet to melt the heavy frost. Ground starting to set up hard in area where sun does not hit during the day.

John

LOL... when I started reading your post I just automatically thought "18 degrees in the morning under clear sky" - thats pretty nice and warm :D Obviously when you mentioned the heavy frost I realized you are probably not talking in deg C :D

We actually had a very warm period up until last week, two days was even absolute record. However on Saturday a cold front arrived and it got much colder and very quickly, so while last week we had even 26C (80F) during the day, now we have daily max around 8C (46F) and during the night close to the freezing point, which is not absolutely rare, but definitely below the average and quite a difference from last week. It just jumped from summer to basically winter... and in addition it is drizzling most of the day, totally overcast and very windy.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: SLOweather on October 06, 2016, 03:26:20 PM
I kinda missed posting here last week due to family issues. We had a heat wave here last week, and on Tuesday Sept 27th, San Luis Obispo was the hot spot in the nation at... 108°F
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on October 06, 2016, 03:58:40 PM
I kinda missed posting here last week due to family issues. We had a heat wave here last week, and on Tuesday Sept 27th, San Luis Obispo was the hot spot in the nation at... 108°F

WOW, and I thought 91 was real hot here on Wednesday.  It came a stormy downpour here this morning and got a bit over two inches of rain.  But that was far from the heaviest.  A location in a county to the north of me got nearly 7 inches.  So a flood watch is now out for 5 northern Oklahoma counties, including my own until 10pm Thursday.  Fortunately, the outlook map has strongest storms in eastern Kansas and a little to the northeast of there:

(http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.gif)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 06, 2016, 04:35:28 PM
Officially first Valentine Ne. snowfall. 1.5" measured so far with streets now covered with wet snow.

Meanwhile east coast has a hurricane....
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 06, 2016, 08:45:48 PM
Wow!  :shock:

Weren't you guys under a severe weather threat yesterday? Or are you too far west for that?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 06, 2016, 08:48:14 PM
Think that was Omaha area.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 07, 2016, 07:39:01 AM
Timelapse of yesterdays snow. http://www.valentinenebraska.net/jwwesty.php
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 07, 2016, 08:58:29 AM
Timelapse of yesterdays snow. http://www.valentinenebraska.net/jwwesty.php

Awesome time lapse! Looks like that snow started when it was about 33 degrees out... So you know it was definitely heavy since it stuck.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 07, 2016, 09:07:49 AM
Timelapse of yesterdays snow. http://www.valentinenebraska.net/jwwesty.php

Awesome time lapse! Looks like that snow started when it was about 33 degrees out... So you know it was definitely heavy since it stuck.

Yes it was above freezing at the beginning. This is actually my first wet snow I can recall going into 3rd winter.
Usually its colder than heck and powder. This will be melted by noon most likely with 70's forecast later next week.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 07, 2016, 09:09:37 AM
Timelapse of yesterdays snow. http://www.valentinenebraska.net/jwwesty.php

Awesome time lapse! Looks like that snow started when it was about 33 degrees out... So you know it was definitely heavy since it stuck.

Yes it was above freezing at the beginning. This is actually my first wet snow I can recall going into 3rd winter.
Usually its colder than heck and powder. This will be melted by noon most likely with 70's forecast later next week.

You've gotta love fall  8-) My favorite season.  :-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on October 08, 2016, 06:27:57 AM
86 Tuesday and Wednesday, 88 Thursday, 87 Friday, forecast high of 69 today.


Sounds like Fall.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 11, 2016, 03:46:58 PM
Another sign its fall.

24-hr difference   
-37.7°F Colder 37.7°F than yesterday at this time.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on October 11, 2016, 03:55:02 PM
Mid 90's all week.  :-|
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on October 11, 2016, 03:59:10 PM
81, yet the leaves are falling enmasse.


Forecast high of 80 for tomorrow and 66 for Thursday.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on October 11, 2016, 11:44:20 PM
Officially first Valentine Ne. snowfall. 1.5" measured so far with streets now covered with wet snow.

Meanwhile east coast has a hurricane....

Can't relate to having snow in Oklahoma in October.  Instead, we're more likely to have at or near record breaking highs in the low 90s on Sun. and Mon.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: cospringswx on October 12, 2016, 12:38:19 AM
Fall in Colorado. These pictures are from Colorado Springs and Estes Park.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on October 12, 2016, 02:58:58 AM
I'm not seeing a lot of color here yet.  I've seen a lot of leaves go from green to brown to down though for some reason this year.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 12, 2016, 07:29:32 AM
I'm not seeing a lot of color here yet.  I've seen a lot of leaves go from green to brown to down though for some reason this year.

Perhaps because of drought? I thought I was gonna have that problem in my neck of the woods, but at least the mountains turned out alright.

And those are great photos Ryan.  8-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on October 12, 2016, 02:40:55 PM
For those that get Hummingbirds in the Summer, did you notice if they left early this year?  I think mine left about 2 weeks early.  Have no idea what (if anything) that might mean.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 12, 2016, 08:50:16 PM
For those that get Hummingbirds in the Summer, did you notice if they left early this year?  I think mine left about 2 weeks early.  Have no idea what (if anything) that might mean.

Mine left quickly. Not sure if it had to do with all of the heavy rain/flooding, but they did leave early this year.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on October 12, 2016, 08:57:08 PM
56 here Monday morning. I know that's not cold to you guys but it felt dam good after a hot summer.
Of course that first front usually spells the end of the rainy season.
Pretty much just Chamber of Commerce weather here for the next 6 months.
Yuck. :sad:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 12, 2016, 09:01:32 PM
56 here Monday morning. I know that's not cold to you guys but it felt dam good after a hot summer.
Of course that first front usually spells the end of the rainy season.
Pretty much just Chamber of Commerce weather here for the next 6 months.
Yuck. :sad:

Beats a hurricane though, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: cospringswx on October 12, 2016, 09:44:30 PM
I was stuck in the 30's all day with fog.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on October 13, 2016, 12:01:43 AM
56 here Monday morning. I know that's not cold to you guys but it felt dam good after a hot summer.
Of course that first front usually spells the end of the rainy season.
Pretty much just Chamber of Commerce weather here for the next 6 months.
Yuck. :sad:

56 here as of 11pm Wed. night after the 2nd strong front of the fall season.   The first strong cold front here tends to signal the the start of the secondary rainy season of the year, the fall.  3.01" so far here for October.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on October 13, 2016, 12:06:25 AM
I was stuck in the 30's all day with fog.

That would be far too freaky cold in north central Oklahoma for this time of year.  People would be wondering if it's really global cooling that we're worried about.  I don't ever intend to, but it would be  something I'd have to try to  get used to if I moved to Colorado Springs.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 13, 2016, 06:30:04 PM
Cool night last night 17 degrees. as of noon we were at 25 now at 41.   NWS says  we are going on 3 weeks late for snow. Latest first snow for fairbanks is Oct 30 set in 1918. Must of had  global warming back then.  Starting this week end  temps expecet to drop as cold air slides west from Canada and impacts the Alaskan interior.


John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on October 13, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
All over the place here.  40's then 70's in just a few days.  had one frost but no real freeze. THey missed the forecast on that one last night.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 13, 2016, 07:01:05 PM
It has been over 10 days now that we are well below average, in fact the whole central Europe is. I dont mind cold, but what is a bit annoying is that I seriously have not seen the sun in those last ten days. All day completely overcast and almost constantly drizzling, occasionally raining. It is usually below any measurable value, but nothing really enjoyable. Due to the cloudiness there is also very little temperature amplitude, practically no difference between daily max and nightly min.

Attached is an image of temperature anomaly

(http://oakcreekwx.com/image/118975427.png)

P.S. And despite the fact it has been colder than usual for the past two weeks, I still believe in global warming :D :D :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 13, 2016, 08:58:46 PM
The Indian summer as they call it around here (when temperatures fluctuate a bunch in the spring and fall) is in full effect. I was only in the upper 50s today, but will be back in the middle 80s by Tuesday. Average high temperatures this time of year in central West Virginia is in the middle 70s.

Frost advisories are up for a good chunk of the state tonight. It was 36 last Monday morning up in the mountains where I went hiking at.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 13, 2016, 10:52:53 PM
Mid 80's tomorrow but we have ended the growing season with 3 days of freezes. Lowest was only 26° but it did stay below 28° >3 consecutive hours making it a hard freeze.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 14, 2016, 12:06:53 PM
13 degees this morning under CAVU  conditions. North side of the Alaska range show lot of new snow yesterday as it pokes above the glacial dust scoured of the river bottoms.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 15, 2016, 02:10:11 PM
8 deg here this morning. Temps keep dropping. Rivers are starting to ice up. Lot of pan ice. Smaller stream are froze over. Next week at the 850mb level temps are expected to drop by 15 to 17 deg C.  So looks like the prediction of minus temp s next week may just form up. No snow yet in any forecast. Stay warm out there.
Hot toddy time tonight


John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on October 15, 2016, 02:25:19 PM
Currently 81, with 87 forecast for Monday, then only upper 60s by Friday.



Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Farmtalk on October 15, 2016, 07:11:42 PM
8 deg here this morning. Temps keep dropping. Rivers are starting to ice up. Lot of pan ice. Smaller stream are froze over. Next week at the 850mb level temps are expected to drop by 15 to 17 deg C.  So looks like the prediction of minus temp s next week may just form up. No snow yet in any forecast. Stay warm out there.
Hot toddy time tonight


John

Would these be your first negative degrees of the new season?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 15, 2016, 07:26:54 PM
Yes it will be first negative temp of 16/17 winter season. Tok last night hit zero for their low.


John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 15, 2016, 07:32:24 PM
Yes it will be first negative temp of 16/17 winter season. Tok last night hit zero for their low.


John

In general, is this earlier than usual, normal or later than usual that you have temperatures of 0F?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on October 15, 2016, 08:14:17 PM
What a day today.  68 with a 60F dew point. Very warm. Got a few Christmas lights put up because of it.
Tomorrow near 70. With the Chiefs at 3, I can get some more hung and start the snow blower.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 15, 2016, 11:03:01 PM
It is late this year. Generally mid  October is when start seeing temps down in the zero range. Also the snow is late this year and down by Anchorage they gave an wildfire going with wind 30 to 40 mph.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 16, 2016, 01:53:56 PM
Well we are at  nothing degrees as the wife calls it. The wx station says 0 degrees out on the front yard. Nws calling for 40 mph winds today as front moves thru and few snow showers at higher elvations.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 16, 2016, 02:22:16 PM
Well we are at  nothing degrees as the wife calls it. The wx station says 0 degrees out on the front yard. Nws calling for 40 mph winds today as front moves thru and few snow showers at higher elvations.

Eventually that nothing moves south, can't wait.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on October 16, 2016, 03:00:14 PM
Well we are at  nothing degrees as the wife calls it. The wx station says 0 degrees out on the front yard. Nws calling for 40 mph winds today as front moves thru and few snow showers at higher elvations.

Eventually that nothing moves south, can't wait.
Easy there Skippy, not too far south... :-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on October 16, 2016, 03:43:00 PM
Well we are at  nothing degrees as the wife calls it. The wx station says 0 degrees out on the front yard. Nws calling for 40 mph winds today as front moves thru and few snow showers at higher elvations.

Eventually that nothing moves south, can't wait.
Easy there Skippy, not too far south... :-)
What? You got something against SNOW in Arid-zona instead of SAND? "Un-true grit" for sure!
Actually when it snows down here, it's really beautiful. I've just become such a weenie when it comes to cold wx.  :-({|=
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on October 17, 2016, 10:14:17 PM
I might as well believe in global warming.  Oklahoma City has a record high low Monday morning.   The low was 73.  The previous high low was 68.  Average low is 52.  This afternoon had 90s in much of central and western parts of the state and as much as 100, or more, in the far northwest.  91 here.  Record highs into the mid 90s have happened before in Oklahoma City during the first three weeks in October.  But never in recorded history has it gotten into the 100s during that month.  In the map below, 102 represents the hottest temperature ever recorded so late in the year in Oklahoma.

Tuesday, a cold front will come and bring highs down to the upper 70s with less wind.  No storms expected.   A stronger cold front will move through Wednesday night with rain more likely.  The rest of October has highs mostly in the 70s with no early fall freezes on the horizon.   First fall freeze often arrives during the first week of November.  No more mowing the grass then, if it wasn't already done.

(http://stillwaterweather.com/images/hightemps.png)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on October 17, 2016, 11:48:43 PM
What a day today.  68 with a 60F dew point. Very warm. Got a few Christmas lights put up because of it.
Tomorrow near 70. With the Chiefs at 3, I can get some more hung and start the snow blower.

Start the snow blower?   I recently heard about that subject.  Recently, a friend of mine asked me to accompany her to her 40th Stillwater High School reunion.  One of the graduates there told me of how rough it was getting used to winters in Wisconsin.  When the Stillwater Mercury Marine plant, where he worked closed in 2011, he elected to transfer to the company HQ plant in Fond du Lac, WI.  He said Wisconsin winters have been mighty rough getting used to and that everybody had to have a snow blower to survive.  Years ago, I had worked at Mercury Marine for several years,  and was gladder than usual I didn't elect to make working there a permanent career.  Mercury Marine makes boat motors.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 19, 2016, 10:24:51 AM
29C in NY?!  :shock:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 20, 2016, 08:58:35 PM
This morning  started out at an low of 2 deg f and  got up to 24 this afternoon. At 19 degrees and light snow falling. This coverage is here to stay till the first snow eater  removes it. So far have about 1/2 inch on the board in little over 2 hours.   Looks like I get to use the  Kubota  in the morning to  move the snow.  it more fun than  an snow blower any day of the week. Take  bucket off and  put the blade on it.


John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 22, 2016, 05:56:51 PM
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Scalphunter_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/20161021_102529_zpscvurlxzo.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Scalphunter_photos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/20161021_102529_zpscvurlxzo.jpg.html)

 First snow of the 16/17 season. Nice day here today sunny. Ran into Fairbank and ice fog on the way in. Hoarfrost  was on the trees but was in area of no photo taking. Eilson AFB.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on October 22, 2016, 06:07:18 PM
Is that your weather station there John?
Finally had our first cold front come through last night. Temp down to 51 and the DP in the mid 40's. Nice to feel some cool air but I'll be complaining soon. Just can't handle cold weather like I used to.
Mid 40's tonight.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on October 22, 2016, 06:13:37 PM
I've hit 98F today. :-|
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 22, 2016, 06:24:38 PM
The night minimums here currently are around freezing point, it gets relatively cold after sunset, during the day it is around 10 (50F). I wonder if we get any snow this winter at all... last few winters we had practically nothing, it did snow but it never stayed on ground for too long, usually a few days at most.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on October 22, 2016, 07:01:03 PM
The night minimums here currently are around freezing point, it gets relatively cold after sunset, during the day it is around 10 (50F). I wonder if we get any snow this winter at all... last few winters we had practically nothing, it did snow but it never stayed on ground for too long, usually a few days at most.
Historically how much snow do you usually get?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on October 22, 2016, 07:27:31 PM
89 on the 19th
62 on the 21st


Must be October.



Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 22, 2016, 07:39:20 PM
The night minimums here currently are around freezing point, it gets relatively cold after sunset, during the day it is around 10 (50F). I wonder if we get any snow this winter at all... last few winters we had practically nothing, it did snow but it never stayed on ground for too long, usually a few days at most.
Historically how much snow do you usually get?

I mentioned this in the other forum about climate change as well...

It really depends, at higher elevations in the mountains there is already plenty of snow now (about 2 inches).

I live in one of the lowest and warmest parts of the country and in addition in the second largest city, with significant heat island effect. Nevertheless, we do get snow regularly. However, when I was "young" (I mean like 10, so about 20yrs ago) we had snow for like 1-2 months straight and went sledging often. These days.... as I said previously, since I guess 2000 at least, there is maybe a few days with some very little snow on ground, but hardly anything. And it usually melts very quickly. In 2012 we had quite cold span, but it was also an anomaly... the winter was very warm and then suddenly in the mid February, it got extremely cold (well below freezing point, there was even a week when the daily maxium did not get over -10C) and that lasted even to beginning of March, but there was not much precipitation, so also no snow.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: corwyyn on October 22, 2016, 08:25:55 PM
99.8 at 1:58pm, humidity in the 20% range.  Forecast shows a chance of showers the next couple of days so hopefully it will cool down.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 22, 2016, 08:48:35 PM
Thats more than our absolute maximum this year :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 25, 2016, 01:25:43 PM
Having an heat wave here. Woke up this morning and it was 11 degrees. Wind over night kept the temps up above the zero mark.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 25, 2016, 01:58:24 PM
C or F?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 25, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
C or F?

We still use the German physicist inventor of the mercury thermometer who also devised the temperature scale bearing his name.  Fahrenheit
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: SLOweather on October 25, 2016, 02:37:16 PM
Hey, since the metric crowd changed Celsius to Centigrade, maybe we should start referring to Fahrenheit as Fartigrade. ;)

C or F?

We still use the German physicist inventor of the mercury thermometer who also devised the temperature scale bearing his name.  Fahrenheit
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 25, 2016, 04:19:26 PM
If I use C or Centigrade there be a lot of minus numbers now till spring.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 25, 2016, 04:27:04 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hey, since the metric crowd changed Celsius to Centigrade, maybe we should start referring to Fahrenheit as Fartigrade. ;)

C or F?

We still use the German physicist inventor of the mercury thermometer who also devised the temperature scale bearing his name.  Fahrenheit
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 28, 2016, 01:33:02 PM
Morning, well we finally got into the minus side of the temps column.  Minus 5 this morning under clear skies. Did have an brief warm up for couple days as downs lope winds brought warmer temps from compression.  Looking ahead in the forecast it looks like we are in another cool down cycle.  By the way Jac that -5 F.


John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 28, 2016, 01:35:30 PM
LOL, yeah, last time I checked the climate normals for your place so I sort of figured it out now :D

Btw... almost zero this night here too :D

0 C :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 28, 2016, 03:13:25 PM
Since our early October snow its been above normal here only 4 freezes this month. All that cold air is pooling well north and eventually start sliding south. Can't wait come on winter.....
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on October 28, 2016, 03:25:49 PM
LOL, so looks like Im not the only one who likes cold, dark, windy :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on October 28, 2016, 05:15:07 PM
21 of the last 22 days over 90F. This may go down as our hottest Oct. on record.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on October 28, 2016, 08:06:19 PM
The big push may well be in the bering as I write this . 966 mb and dropping. 75 knot winds for casted for Gambel and other areas. All that warm air will push this cold somewhere south.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on October 28, 2016, 08:32:40 PM
21 of the last 22 days over 90F. This may go down as our hottest Oct. on record.

I maintain that seasons are shifting.  Warmer later into Fall, but cooler later into Spring.  October is the new September.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on October 30, 2016, 06:45:50 PM
60's next week.  Halloween high of 61. 

We have not hit 32 yet. May be one of the latest 32 on record

NWS Twin Cities ‏@NWSTwinCities  1h1 hour ago
Latest date Twin Cities has seen 32 or colder was 11/7/1900. Forecast through next week suggests this year may eclipse that mark.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on October 31, 2016, 03:44:05 PM
21 of the last 22 days over 90F. This may go down as our hottest Oct. on record.
It's official, hottest October on record for Tucson, and I'm sure plenty others too.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 31, 2016, 05:57:02 PM
60's next week.  Halloween high of 61. 

We have not hit 32 yet. May be one of the latest 32 on record

NWS Twin Cities ‏@NWSTwinCities  1h1 hour ago
Latest date Twin Cities has seen 32 or colder was 11/7/1900. Forecast through next week suggests this year may eclipse that mark.

That is surprising.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 01, 2016, 11:04:30 AM
Over 70 already this morning, though it feels quite a bit warmer.

Have only seen a few wooley worms so far, but they're taking on their normal colors.  The ones I've seen so far are black at both ends, brown in between with no banding.

Hearing rumors of a big chill by mid-month, maybe flipping to below or well below normal.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 02, 2016, 10:34:35 PM
I was outside today in a short sleeved shirt. Walking around because I did not want to go inside.
60's all week Well above average.

November expected to be warm
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on November 06, 2016, 02:09:17 PM
First freeze of the season here hasn't happened and long range it still won't happen through Nov. 20.  Nov. 2 was the last day with high in the 80s, very near record.  But a TV weatherman said he expects no more 80s for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 06, 2016, 02:46:42 PM
First freeze of the season here hasn't happened and long range it still won't happen through Nov. 20.  Nov. 2 was the last day with high in the 80s, very near record.  But a TV weatherman said he expects no more 80s for the rest of the year.

Where does he get the long range? Found this computer model for comparison. http://www.weathertab.com/en/g/united-states/oklahoma/74074-stillwater/
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 06, 2016, 03:10:24 PM
The weather here currently more or less what you would expect at this time of the day - mostly cloudy/overcast, today raining most of the day, daily max around 10 C (50F) and at night around freezing point.
Next week however a cold front is expected to arrive on Tuesday and temperatures dropping significantly below the average, at night as low as -8 C (17F), and snow even at the lowest elevations, which is rather unusual. We normally dont have temperatures too much below freezing point in the first half of Nov.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: zackdog on November 07, 2016, 09:33:11 AM
My mean temperature for October was 40.9° F, which is 4.0° above my twenty year average but is not a record.  In 2003 the mean was 42.9° F.  November has started out very mild, with a current mean of 37.1° F and predicted highs in the low to mid-50s for the next ten days.  My twenty year average for November is 25.8° F, so the last half of the month will have to be extremely cold to get down to average.

Mark
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on November 09, 2016, 04:38:03 AM
First freeze of the season here hasn't happened and long range it still won't happen through Nov. 20.  Nov. 2 was the last day with high in the 80s, very near record.  But a TV weatherman said he expects no more 80s for the rest of the year.

Where does he get the long range? Found this computer model for comparison. http://www.weathertab.com/en/g/united-states/oklahoma/74074-stillwater/

The TV weatherman didn't say.  It's a bold prediction, since I believe there are a bunch of record highs that got into the 80s for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 09, 2016, 04:41:40 AM
First freeze of the season here hasn't happened and long range it still won't happen through Nov. 20.  Nov. 2 was the last day with high in the 80s, very near record.  But a TV weatherman said he expects no more 80s for the rest of the year.

Where does he get the long range? Found this computer model for comparison. http://www.weathertab.com/en/g/united-states/oklahoma/74074-stillwater/

The TV weatherman didn't say.  It's a bold prediction, since I believe there are a bunch of record highs that got into the 80s for the rest of the year.
Well the TV weatherman isn't God so take it with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 09, 2016, 06:50:17 AM
Still very cold here and it is supposed to get even colder in the upcoming days. We are already 4-5 degrees below the long-term average.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 09, 2016, 07:28:42 AM
Still very cold here and it is supposed to get even colder in the upcoming days. We are already 4-5 degrees below the long-term average.
It will eventually get worse (colder) on next ice age so enjoy. I'm hoping it doesn't occur in next 90 years during my grandchildren's life, but it will come. Happens about every 14,000 years and we are do.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 09, 2016, 07:32:23 AM
Yes thats true and until it begins we will have to bear the consequences of ongoing global warming  :razz:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 09, 2016, 07:59:28 AM
You started it by mentioning Ice ages and you know very well what my stance is in terms of global warming, so you are the one provoking.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 09, 2016, 08:10:15 AM
You started it by mentioning Ice ages and you know very well what my stance is in terms of global warming, so you are the one provoking.
Okay I call Uncle...LOL
Look it up....
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 09, 2016, 08:16:29 AM
Our posts dont contradict each other ;)
I do believe we will have another ice age and I do agree it probably isnt too far away (though definitely not something you or me should worry about if we assume cryoconservation wont become possible), but that does not contradict the fact that right now, the Earth is warming up and we are in a period of global warming (note carefully my wording, I did not say this is caused by humans, I personally think it is highly likely, but not 100%).
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 09, 2016, 08:30:02 AM
we are in a period of global warming (note carefully my wording, I did not say this is caused by humans, I personally think it is highly likely, but not 100%).

Don't make me post the historic world temps again. It has been much warmer some 1-4C globally just before last ICE AGE.... All Americans aren't stupid and do know what the historical data says.

I think you need to move that 100% to 50% if really serious and want to investigate and ask real questions what's going on. It's so clear to me...One thing we agree on, no-doubt we will go into another ice age.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 09, 2016, 08:38:44 AM
Absolutely correct, it has been MUCH warmer in the past, but the change was not so rapid and dont you think it is slightly suspicious that right at the moment we largely increased our CO2 and other GHG emmisions, the temps shot up? The CO2 conc. was also higher in the past, but the change wasnt so fast.

And we are not talking about warming, also the number of extreme events etc. it is all interconnected (butterfly effect). It is not just about the averages.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 13, 2016, 09:07:21 AM
It is literally snowing leaves out there this morning under a couple of trees.  They've been falling continuously since sunrise, just like big snowflakes.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 13, 2016, 09:17:32 AM
Would you rather they were real snowflakes or do you prefer warmer weather? :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 13, 2016, 09:26:41 AM
I hate snow, but at 23 degrees it could easily have been either.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 15, 2016, 08:08:01 AM
Still significantly below average here (around -6 deg compared to normal). Tonight we had -6 C at night, which is very unusual for this time of the year. The temps around this time dont normally go below 0 too much.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on November 15, 2016, 01:49:21 PM
Oklahoma City still hasn't had the first freeze of Fall.  Latest in recorded history that it has ever happened was December 8th, 1998.     Average 1st freeze, Nov. 5.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 15, 2016, 03:06:52 PM
Ours finally happened about 3 days before the record latest.  We've had a couple since also.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 15, 2016, 03:22:42 PM
Oklahoma City still hasn't had the first freeze of Fall.  Latest in recorded history that it has ever happened was December 8th, 1998.     Average 1st freeze, Nov. 5.

Here also. SOme around the metro has-but officially at the airport, they have not

Possible snow this weekend.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 15, 2016, 03:31:01 PM
Gonna have a 40F diurnal swing today. That's what dry air will do for ya! (among other things)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 15, 2016, 05:49:48 PM
First snow.... I just came from work and you could be ice skating on the sidewalks... it started snowing at about 8PM and when I went home from work at 10PM there was a thin layer of snow, but the temperature is just below freezing point and it is now rather raining than snowing, so there is ice layer below the snow :)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: zackdog on November 16, 2016, 09:32:12 AM
Yesterday's high was 61° F, today has Red Flag warnings out with a high predicted of 60° F.  They are predicting 1-3" of snow for tomorrow.  Gotta love early winter in the Rockies.

Mark
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 16, 2016, 02:53:08 PM
This week end we are going into the plunge with day time below nothing or a little bit above it. Night time temps are going down to 20 to 25 below. No more of these minus 5 nite temps for an bit.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 16, 2016, 04:10:39 PM
And we're at 76 today and then back in the same area tomorrow, followed by storms and a drop back into the 50s for highs by next week.

Roses are blooming, Iris are popping up.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 17, 2016, 07:05:20 PM
Last day we see 6 hours of sun here till next February.  daytime high today was 13 and tomorrow suppose to hit 5 in Fairbanks  so we will be an bit cooler. The valleys are starting to fill up with cold dense air as one fills it spills over to the next. Weekend  forecast is clear and cold so lot of heat lost at nights also.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 17, 2016, 07:49:24 PM
Looks like snow coming up. First of the year.

I do not think it will last long. The ground is still warm and full sun on Saturday.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 17, 2016, 07:53:05 PM
We already had some this Tuesday, but it melted day after. Now it is just very slippery on the sidewalks because the temp at night is fluctuating around 0C and it is raining.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 18, 2016, 05:56:35 AM
5AM, 65 degrees.

Yesterday, November 17 clocked in at 22 degrees above normal.  The same date in 2014 clocked in at 22 degrees below normal with 2 inches of snow.  Each of the other years since I started keeping track were above normal (2013 +17, 2015 +16), yet the dates within a week either way have been below normal.  Something odd about this transitional period between seasons.


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Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 18, 2016, 10:03:03 AM
Little white stuff overnight.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: zackdog on November 18, 2016, 11:22:30 AM
Little white stuff overnight.
 

Thanks Randy.  Just ordered one of those to replace this. :grin:

Mark

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Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 18, 2016, 11:59:35 AM
Good deal. Seems to work better with drifting and not heating up hopefully. I taped the numbers up and painted the middle section (heavier metal) white. Won't know how well it works until sun comes out.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Bunty on November 18, 2016, 02:39:51 PM
After two days of hi temps in the low 80s, there is a freeze warning tonight over most of Oklahoma.  About all the rain associated with the cold front was confined to far southeast Oklahoma.

(http://www.mesonet.org/data/public/noaa/wwa/maps/realtime/latest.oklahoma.frostfreeze.gif)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 18, 2016, 03:17:21 PM
Single digits won't surprise me by morning. Forecast calling for 11° (-11.6 C) but almost always on high side after fresh snow. It will be closer to 0-5°F is my prediction unless wind stays up. 29° is the high so far today and losing 30° with fresh snow is normal around here.   
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CNYWeather on November 18, 2016, 03:42:19 PM
I guess it had to happen sooner or later here in Westmoreland. Lake Ontario is 5 degrees above normal too.

HAPPY FALL!!

Quote
..LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE SATURDAY NIGHT
THROUGH MONDAY EVENING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BINGHAMTON HAS ISSUED A LAKE
EFFECT SNOW WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE SATURDAY NIGHT
THROUGH MONDAY EVENING.

* LOCATIONS...SENECA, SOUTHERN CAYUGA, ONONDAGA, ONEIDA, MADISON,
  CORTLAND, CHENANGO AND OTSEGO COUNTIES IN NEW YORK.

* HAZARD TYPES...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WITH CONSIDERABLE BLOWING AND
  DRIFTING SNOW FROM STRONG NORTHWEST WINDS.

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 7 TO 15 INCHES POSSIBLE.

* TIMING...RAIN SHOWERS WILL DEVELOP SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND CHANGE
  TO SNOW SHOWERS SATURDAY NIGHT AND EARLY SUNDAY. LAKE EFFECT
  SNOW SHOWERS WILL BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES SUNDAY THROUGH MONDAY,
  BEFORE TAPERING OFF MONDAY NIGHT. STRONG NORTHWEST WINDS WILL
  ALSO DEVELOP DURING THE DAY SUNDAY AND LAST THROUGH MONDAY.

* WINDS...NORTHWEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 MPH.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 18, 2016, 04:39:33 PM
western minnesota has been beat up all day  go here. https://twitter.com/hashtag/mnwx?src=hash

It started snowing here about 2pmCentral. Strong winds. High of 41. Average speed of 20.

My blowup turkey blew away in the yard.  :sad:

Just cannot complain. It was a great fall.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 18, 2016, 08:55:36 PM
this is what happens when lakes in minnesota do not freeze by November

https://t.co/3G5fSRSkA3 (https://t.co/3G5fSRSkA3)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 19, 2016, 05:29:05 AM
Single digits won't surprise me by morning. Forecast calling for 11° (-11.6 C) but almost always on high side after fresh snow. It will be closer to 0-5°F is my prediction unless wind stays up. 29° is the high so far today and losing 30° with fresh snow is normal around here.

Lowest so far has been 6°F (-14.4C) & still 3 hours before sunrise. 
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 19, 2016, 08:56:49 AM
Single digits won't surprise me by morning. Forecast calling for 11° (-11.6 C) but almost always on high side after fresh snow. It will be closer to 0-5°F is my prediction unless wind stays up. 29° is the high so far today and losing 30° with fresh snow is normal around here.

Lowest so far has been 6°F (-14.4C) & still 3 hours before sunrise.

Temperatures bottomed out around 3°F at airport and east side of town. Inside town my station 5°.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: PaulMy on November 19, 2016, 09:17:19 AM
After a 20.9°C beautiful sunny day yesterday looks like our summer is over and we bypassed fall and going directly in to winter:
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Watches 4:48 AM EST Saturday 19 November 2016
Snow squall watch in effect for:
 
  • London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County
  • Strathroy - Komoka - Western Middlesex County
Snow squalls are expected to develop. Under the snow squall bands, visibilities will be significantly reduced due to the heavy snow combined with blowing snow, and snow will quickly accumulate.

Lake effect snow likely beginning tonight and continuing Sunday..

After the record setting warm spell of the past couple of days, a significant change in the weather is expected as much colder arctic air blasts in over the mild waters of the Great Lakes tonight and Sunday. As a result, conditions will quickly become favourable for snow squalls to develop tonight and continue through Sunday.

Local snowfall amounts in the heaviest snow squalls of 10 to 20 cm are expected overnight and Sunday. In addition, strong and gusty northwest winds will whip up freshly fallen snow, resulting in sudden very low to at times nil visibility in blowing snow.

There is a possibility that a strong snow squall off of Lake Huron may become nearly stationary across the region Sunday into Sunday night. If this happens, local snowfall amounts of 20 to 30 cm are possible by Monday morning.

Driving conditions will quickly deteriorate tonight after the flurries and snow squalls arrive. Motorists should consider adjusting their travel plans accordingly.

Latest indications suggest that snow squalls will continue through Sunday night before slowly weakening to flurries on Monday.
Snow squalls cause weather conditions to vary considerably; changes from clear skies to heavy snow within just a few kilometres are common. Visibility may be significantly and suddenly reduced to near zero. Surfaces such as highways, roads, walkways and parking lots may become difficult to navigate due to accumulating snow. Road closures are possible.

Snow squall watches are issued when conditions are favourable for the formation of bands of snow that could produce intense accumulating snow or near zero visibilities.


Enjoy?
Paul
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 19, 2016, 09:43:46 AM
I would say yes :D

I mean 21C for Canada in mid November?! And I prefer cold weather much more than I do warm. I would rather -10C than 35 :)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 19, 2016, 09:44:35 AM
that was a big pic. Had to shrink it.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxlaugaW8AE3mav.jpg)

These towns hit the jackpot for snow. Add a few inches for both.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 19, 2016, 09:52:18 AM
Ranchers were worried about young livestock here. Most calves don't have winter coats yet because of the usual warmth. My cousin and her family rounded up hundred calves or so and put in barns last night.
She texted me this morning saying it was 5° at the ranch also last night but didn't have report how the calves did.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on November 19, 2016, 03:57:53 PM
That cold air is fixin to make it down my way.
Upper 30's tonight and mid 30's Monday morning.
I am soo ready for summer.
Only six and a half months till the rainy season. :-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 19, 2016, 05:54:04 PM
Was warmer last night  at midnight  9 f then it is now at 1400 hr  where we are at 3 degrees and dropping. looking at NWSW forecast  shows  all
low single digits for next week . Time to get out the  ice fishing gear.


John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 19, 2016, 06:00:35 PM
What was the absolute min and max you have ever measured? And for how many yrs have you been tracking the weather?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 19, 2016, 06:05:41 PM
98 degrees the hottest.  State record 100.  64 below the coldest I recorded here   state record 80 below 150 miles north of me.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 19, 2016, 06:09:52 PM
Wow... what a range!

Im particularly surprised by that 98 because that is even close to the record warmest here. The absolute highest temp for the Czech Republic is 104, but that wasn't where I live, here it is more like 101/102. And I myself have measured over 100 about twice.

That minimum of course is something I cant even imagine, but Im not surprised given where you live :D I actually like cold as well, I hate hot weather. But here it hardly ever gets below -5F, which you probably think is absurd :D I think the coldest I have ever experienced was -15F, but that is very long time ago, usually in the winter we have daily max around freezing point or 40F, at night it drops to 15-20 F.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 20, 2016, 12:29:17 AM
bit of nip in the air this evening. Since midnight  we have dropped 20 deg and dropping  midnight it was 9 above   here at 2030 we are -9.8 deg F. and still going  down.  Ft Yukon  today was -21.  they are generally the first to  drop into the big negative numbers  then Fairbanks as the cold air  moves up the Tanana river basin.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on November 20, 2016, 10:13:40 AM
Recorded my largest temperature differential today.
Yesterday at 3:07 PM it was 81.9.
Today at 7:22 AM it 36.9
45 degrees.
Now that's a FROPA!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: PaulMy on November 20, 2016, 10:34:59 AM
Quote
Yesterday at 3:07 PM it was 81.9.
Today at 7:22 AM it 36.9
We're having snow, but at 7:20 this morning temp was 1.1°C which is about 34F so not much difference to you :shock:
Have some snowbird friends who reside in the Villages, that wouldn't be too far from you, and they come back in the spring and say they went golfing every day.  They are coming back this way in a couple weeks and will see how their golfing was on Nov 20th ;)

Enjoy,
Paul

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on November 20, 2016, 11:05:14 AM
Quote
Yesterday at 3:07 PM it was 81.9.
Today at 7:22 AM it 36.9
We're having snow, but at 7:20 this morning temp was 1.1°C which is about 34F so not much difference to you :shock:
Have some snowbird friends who reside in the Villages, that wouldn't be too far from you, and they come back in the spring and say they went golfing every day.  They are coming back this way in a couple weeks and will see how their golfing was on Nov 20th ;)

Enjoy,
Paul
I try to avoid that place like the plague. Way too many people and none of them can drive.
Of course this time of year it doubles. We always bid them snowbirds a healthy "adios" come springtime.  :-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: PaulMy on November 20, 2016, 12:10:59 PM
It is very wet stuff coming off of the unfrozen Lake Huron... and can see the radar and my webcam here www.komokaweather.com
Quote
Warnings 11:38 AM EST Sunday 20 November 2016
 Snow squall warning in effect for:
 
  • London - Parkhill - Eastern Middlesex County
  • Strathroy - Komoka - Western Middlesex County
Snow squalls are expected. Under the snow squall bands, visibilities will be significantly reduced due to the heavy snow combined with blowing snow, and snow will quickly accumulate.

Local snowfall amounts of 15 cm within 12 hours are possible in heaviest snow squalls today and tonight.

Snow squalls have developed over Lake Huron and are extending inland over parts of Southwestern Ontario. Strong northwest winds with gusts up to 70 or 80 km/h will also accompany these snow squalls resulting in reduced visibility in blowing snow.

Generally the highest amounts anticipated are 20 cm however there is a chance that a strong snow squall off Lake Huron may become nearly stationary across the region. If this happens, local snowfall amounts in excess of 30 cm are possible by Monday morning.

Outside of the stronger bands, snowfall amounts will be much less, however, roads may be icy at times.

The squalls will slowly begin to weaken on Monday.
Snow squalls cause weather conditions to vary considerably; changes from clear skies to heavy snow within just a few kilometres are common. Visibility will be suddenly reduced to near zero at times in heavy snow and blowing snow. Travel is expected to be hazardous due to reduced visibility in some locations. If visibility is reduced while driving, turn on your lights and maintain a safe following distance. Rapidly accumulating snow could make travel difficult over some locations.

Paul
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 20, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
Bottom out at -15 last night with an 24 hour drop of 25 degrees. Presently we are at minus 6. Looks like going to be an minus day for us.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 20, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
(http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/funny-picture-cold-teens-pants.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 20, 2016, 03:31:18 PM
(http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/funny-picture-cold-teens-pants.jpg)
:lol:
Unequivocally the stupidest "fashion statement" of all time. :roll:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Old Tele man on November 20, 2016, 03:49:25 PM
The impetus for the saying "...drafty afty..."...or maybe just 'teens in training for Plumbers Butt?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 20, 2016, 05:44:44 PM
'teens in training for Plumbers Butt?

 =D>
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 22, 2016, 07:47:52 PM
Todays high in  Ft Yukon was -26 and  they are forecasted to hit -35 tonight . TV says -21 tonight for Fairbanks. let see if I got the  right altitude to stay warmer.  at 5 above at the moment and  Fairbanks is at 3 above.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 23, 2016, 04:32:15 PM
Alaska Temperature Extremes.
:  Highest Temperature Last 24 Hours.
:   45 at Ketchikan...Annette
:  Lowest Temperature Last 12 Hours.
:  -27 at Gulkana


Fairbanks  was down to -16 and there high at present  time ( noon) is -13.  My low last night was -7 and sitting at -5 for mid day temp

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 23, 2016, 05:37:10 PM
Alaska Temperature Extremes.
:  Highest Temperature Last 24 Hours.
:   45 at Ketchikan...Annette
:  Lowest Temperature Last 12 Hours.
:  -27 at Gulkana


Fairbanks  was down to -16 and there high at present  time ( noon) is -13.  My low last night was -7 and sitting at -5 for mid day temp

Do PWSs work at -27? Unfortunately, based on first hand experience, I know they do! Too early in the season for such temperatures! Call somebody to complain!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 23, 2016, 06:41:52 PM
mine works at 64 below does yours ?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 23, 2016, 06:46:31 PM
(http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/funny-picture-cold-teens-pants.jpg)
:lol:
Unequivocally the stupidest "fashion statement" of all time. :roll:

24 years of teaching and that STILL HAS NOT gone away. I just don't get it.
Now back to weather.

we had a few inches of snow yesterday. Gave everything a nice white coat.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 23, 2016, 07:05:51 PM
mine works at 64 below does yours ?
No, nor does 99.999% of the population on this planet that needs it.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 23, 2016, 07:12:14 PM
mine works at 64 below does yours ?
No, nor does 99.999% of the population on this planet that needs it.

well it is good then that PWS manufacturers care even about that 0.0001% dont you think :)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 23, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
mine works at 64 below does yours ?
No, nor does 99.999% of the population on this planet that needs it.

well it is good then that PWS manufacturers care even about that 0.0001% dont you think :)
Epitome of a niche market.  ;)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 23, 2016, 07:53:08 PM
well some of us has an justification to own that .1%.  22 lower 48 states extreme also exceed Davis -40 limit. maybe there should be more  seller seen how the market is there.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 23, 2016, 08:42:10 PM
I'm good coldest here has been -39F in 1989. Unless the ice-age starts, should it I'm moving to Phoenix.   :-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 23, 2016, 08:50:52 PM
I'm good coldest here has been -39F in 1989. Unless the ice-age starts, should it I'm moving to Phoenix.   :-)

But if you move to Phoenix, you will be dangerously close to CW2274. You might be better off staying in Nebraska! Seriously, the extreme temperatures do serve a purpose. I have lived in Illinois and Colorado most of my life and in winters when several days of sub zero temperatures do not occur, bugs and other pests can be a problem the following Spring and Summer, so there is a benefit, but.......
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 23, 2016, 08:58:47 PM
I'm good coldest here has been -39F in 1989. Unless the ice-age starts, should it I'm moving to Phoenix.   :-)

But if you move to Phoenix, you will be dangerously close to CW2274. You might be better off staying in Nebraska!

You're right. After second thoughts I'll freeze in Nebraska.  :lol:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 23, 2016, 10:30:30 PM
 :twisted:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 24, 2016, 01:02:15 AM
Quote
You're right. After second thoughts I'll freeze in Nebraska

Head North young man Head North  Going be just wee bit cool tonight at 16 below at the moment. 2100 hr

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 24, 2016, 06:52:29 AM
Seriously, the extreme temperatures do serve a purpose. I have lived in Illinois and Colorado most of my life and in winters when several days of sub zero temperatures do not occur, bugs and other pests can be a problem the following Spring and Summer, so there is a benefit, but.......

Unless you're one of the bugs.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on November 24, 2016, 07:24:53 AM
I'm good coldest here has been -39F in 1989. Unless the ice-age starts, should it I'm moving to Phoenix.   :-)
It was 32 here the other morning. Too cold.
Thinking of moving to the Keys. :-)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 24, 2016, 07:48:14 AM
Move to Caxias (Brazil), yesterday 107F, or if you prefer English, then try Julia Creek (Australia), 106F :)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 24, 2016, 02:23:58 PM
Minus 16 this morning with an trace of snow. By the way  during last ice age  the interior of Alaska was Ice free and an grassland. all the ice was south of here along the coast. Lot of mastodon, and mammoth bones here to prove it.  All found during the mining operations. where the river bottoms where dredge , also most of the hills here are made up from glacial silt  blown in from the  deposits  around the  bowl. We also have babe the  blue ox  from that period  well preserved sitting up in the UAF  Museum.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 24, 2016, 02:33:16 PM
 Alaska Temperature Extremes.
:  Highest Temperature Last 24 Hours.
:   50 at Ketchikan
:  Lowest Temperature Last 12 Hours.
:  -30 at Northway

State max/min temps

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 24, 2016, 02:43:03 PM
I walked a 5k this morning and it was 34. Not a bad morning. But I am sore.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 24, 2016, 02:51:13 PM
I walked a 5k this morning and it was 34. Not a bad morning. But I am sore.

I walk 4 miles nearly every morning, weather and other conditions permitting, plus another 1 1/2 or so in the afternoons.  If I can't do it outside, I try to do 30 minutes on a treadmill inside which seems to take as much or more out of me.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 25, 2016, 07:17:11 PM
:  Alaska Temperature Extremes.
:  Highest Temperature Last 24 Hours.
:   47 at Kodiak
:  Lowest Temperature Last 12 Hours.
:  -30 at Northway
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 25, 2016, 08:05:07 PM
:  Alaska Temperature Extremes.
:  Highest Temperature Last 24 Hours.
:   47 at Kodiak
:  Lowest Temperature Last 12 Hours.
:  -30 at Northway

Sounds cold. Why do you list the highest temperature in the last 24 hours, but the lowest temperature over the last 12 hours? Just curious.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 25, 2016, 09:45:27 PM
Lowest is the night time temps. That is the way NWS post them here in their summary .
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 25, 2016, 09:57:35 PM
Lowest is the night time temps. That is the way NWS post them here in their summary .

You learn something new every day!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 26, 2016, 03:04:44 PM
 Alaska Temperature Extremes.
:  Highest Temperature Last 24 Hours.
:   50 at Atka
:  Lowest Temperature Last 12 Hours.
:  -28 at Buckland


Here at  the cabin  my low and my high for today so far is 18 below zero.   out in the  Chain   big storm  moving thru 65-70  MPH  winds with sea height forecasted up to 42 feet.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 26, 2016, 03:18:46 PM
I had a couple of Christmas lights come off the roof, so I had to go out today and reconnect them.  Warm, sunny, no wind, snow melted.
There were two house flies on the room, happy as can be. Even though it has been "cold" It is not enough to get rid of the flies and the geese. We have had just a few hours below 32F and a few snow events.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 27, 2016, 03:55:35 PM
:  Alaska Temperature Extremes.
:  Highest Temperature Last 24 Hours.
:   49 at Annette...Dutch Harbor
:  Lowest Temperature Last 12 Hours.
:  -30 at Shungnak

 Well from 18 below we warmed up yesterday to  minus 7  then plunged to 16 below  last night before the southerly flow aloft  started to bring temps back up. Today we are  getting light snow.
 also that storm I mention in the Chain  at false Pass they clocked  winds of 100 mph.   

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 27, 2016, 04:13:25 PM
Nice :-)  - and Im not being ironic.... I really prefer night, dark, cold :D Yeah.. Im weird :D I think I might consider moving to Alaska, Im sure I would enjoy the weather there :D Im just not a big fan of the long summer days :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on November 27, 2016, 06:11:46 PM
Nice :-)  - and Im not being ironic.... I really prefer night, dark, cold :D Yeah.. Im weird :D I think I might consider moving to Alaska, Im sure I would enjoy the weather there :D Im just not a big fan of the long summer days :D
Long summer days are fine as long as they end with massive thunderstorms. :grin:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 27, 2016, 07:44:04 PM
Check out the altimeter in N. Nebraska Pressure: 29.08 inHg. This is really low, never experienced pressure drops like this in Arizona. Shows how accurate the Davis Vue pressure is also dead on with airport.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 07:49:32 PM
Check out the altimeter in N. Nebraska Pressure: 29.08 inHg. This is really low, never experienced pressure drops like this in Arizona. Shows how accurate the Davis Vue pressure is also dead on with airport.
Wow, that's deep, and sitting right on top of you. Glad the Vue keeping up too! =D>
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 27, 2016, 07:53:48 PM
Last year we had 28.8 here which is very unusual
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 27, 2016, 07:57:34 PM
Check out the altimeter in N. Nebraska Pressure: 29.08 inHg. This is really low, never experienced pressure drops like this in Arizona. Shows how accurate the Davis Vue pressure is also dead on with airport.
Wow, that's deep, and sitting right on top of you. Glad the Vue keeping up too! =D>


For anyone interested the VP2 console is reading higher (29.14 in) because it doesn't have altimeter adjustment.
This is why some of us use the Vue as main console.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 27, 2016, 08:10:37 PM
Check out the altimeter in N. Nebraska Pressure: 29.08 inHg. This is really low, never experienced pressure drops like this in Arizona. Shows how accurate the Davis Vue pressure is also dead on with airport.
Wow, that's deep, and sitting right on top of you. Glad the Vue keeping up too! =D>


For anyone interested the VP2 console is reading higher (29.14 in) because it doesn't have altimeter adjustment.
This is why some of us use the Vue as main console.

Someone in this Forum suggested I set my elevation on the VP2 console to zero, then adjust my barometric pressure to that reported by a nearby airport and all should be good. I did, now my pressure is very close to altimeter readings reported by nearby reliable stations.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 08:13:12 PM
Check out the altimeter in N. Nebraska Pressure: 29.08 inHg. This is really low, never experienced pressure drops like this in Arizona. Shows how accurate the Davis Vue pressure is also dead on with airport.
Wow, that's deep, and sitting right on top of you. Glad the Vue keeping up too! =D>


For anyone interested the VP2 console is reading higher (29.14 in) because it doesn't have altimeter adjustment.
This is why some of us use the Vue as main console.
I am, and that's just about where I figured the VP2 would be, as it's error seems quite linear.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 08:18:55 PM
Check out the altimeter in N. Nebraska Pressure: 29.08 inHg. This is really low, never experienced pressure drops like this in Arizona. Shows how accurate the Davis Vue pressure is also dead on with airport.
Wow, that's deep, and sitting right on top of you. Glad the Vue keeping up too! =D>


For anyone interested the VP2 console is reading higher (29.14 in) because it doesn't have altimeter adjustment.
This is why some of us use the Vue as main console.

Someone in this Forum suggested I set my elevation on the VP2 console to zero, then adjust my barometric pressure to that reported by a nearby airport and all should be good. I did, now my pressure is very close to altimeter readings reported by nearby reliable stations.
Probably me. It will remain fairly close until you get into real high or low pressure as Randy is seeing now. The stronger the high or low, the greater the error.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 08:22:23 PM
Poorly stated on my part saying "error". The VP2 is doing it's job, it just doesn't do the altimeter setting.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 27, 2016, 08:23:43 PM
Poorly stated saying "error". The VP2 is doing it's job, it just doesn't do the altimeter setting.

And the Vue does a better job? I thought the VP2 was top of the line for Davis, no?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
Poorly stated saying "error". The VP2 is doing it's job, it just doesn't do the altimeter setting.

And the Vue does a better job? I thought the VP2 was top of the line for Davis, no?
This is the lone function of the VP2 it doesn't have that the Vue console does, hence why I bought one a year ago.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 27, 2016, 08:29:45 PM
Poorly stated saying "error". The VP2 is doing it's job, it just doesn't do the altimeter setting.

And the Vue does a better job? I thought the VP2 was top of the line for Davis, no?
This is the lone function of the VP2 it doesn't have that the Vue console does, hence why I bought one a year ago.

Ah ha! Another reason for a VP3!!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 08:36:41 PM
Poorly stated saying "error". The VP2 is doing it's job, it just doesn't do the altimeter setting.

And the Vue does a better job? I thought the VP2 was top of the line for Davis, no?
This is the lone function of the VP2 it doesn't have that the Vue console does, hence why I bought one a year ago.

Ah ha! Another reason for a VP3!!
I realize we're getting OT, but my entire reason for a PWS is to see what's going on outside. I highly doubt a VP3 will be superior to what I have now.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on November 27, 2016, 08:38:48 PM
Check out the altimeter in N. Nebraska Pressure: 29.08 inHg. This is really low, never experienced pressure drops like this in Arizona. Shows how accurate the Davis Vue pressure is also dead on with airport.
Wow, that's deep, and sitting right on top of you. Glad the Vue keeping up too! =D>


For anyone interested the VP2 console is reading higher (29.14 in) because it doesn't have altimeter adjustment.
This is why some of us use the Vue as main console.

Someone in this Forum suggested I set my elevation on the VP2 console to zero, then adjust my barometric pressure to that reported by a nearby airport and all should be good. I did, now my pressure is very close to altimeter readings reported by nearby reliable stations.
Probably me. It will remain fairly close until you get into real high or low pressure as Randy is seeing now. The stronger the high or low, the greater the error.
Since you said that mine has mirrored the local NWS stations. But we haven't had any huge swings. Really interested in far off it will be. Or, maybe I won't. :-(
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on November 27, 2016, 08:40:11 PM
Poorly stated saying "error". The VP2 is doing it's job, it just doesn't do the altimeter setting.

And the Vue does a better job? I thought the VP2 was top of the line for Davis, no?
This is the lone function of the VP2 it doesn't have that the Vue console does, hence why I bought one a year ago.

Ah ha! Another reason for a VP3!!
I realize we're getting OT, but my entire reason for a PWS is to see what's going on outside. I highly doubt a VP3 will be superior to what I have now.
If the specs were superior you know you would buy it. :grin:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 08:41:43 PM
See Randy's post above.
Unless you're truly a nut case like me, you probably won't care.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 08:43:09 PM
Poorly stated saying "error". The VP2 is doing it's job, it just doesn't do the altimeter setting.

And the Vue does a better job? I thought the VP2 was top of the line for Davis, no?
This is the lone function of the VP2 it doesn't have that the Vue console does, hence why I bought one a year ago.

Ah ha! Another reason for a VP3!!
I realize we're getting OT, but my entire reason for a PWS is to see what's going on outside. I highly doubt a VP3 will be superior to what I have now.
If the specs were superior you know you would buy it. :grin:
Yes, I would, but I have ASOS quality as it is now.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 27, 2016, 08:47:52 PM
Poorly stated saying "error". The VP2 is doing it's job, it just doesn't do the altimeter setting.

And the Vue does a better job? I thought the VP2 was top of the line for Davis, no?
This is the lone function of the VP2 it doesn't have that the Vue console does, hence why I bought one a year ago.

Ah ha! Another reason for a VP3!!
I realize we're getting OT, but my entire reason for a PWS is to see what's going on outside. I highly doubt a VP3 will be superior to what I have now.

If a superior product does comes out, which has all the bells and whistles that you have, you could sell your station on Ebay, like someone in this Forum has pointed out. However, if you do, I hope it isn't as ugly as the one being recently mentioned!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 27, 2016, 08:54:03 PM
Quote
Long summer days are fine as long as they end with massive thunderstorms

That's an no no here. Thunderstorms and spruce forest don"t mix well.   Generally ends up  like what you are having in the red stuff in the SE now.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 08:54:11 PM
Poorly stated saying "error". The VP2 is doing it's job, it just doesn't do the altimeter setting.

And the Vue does a better job? I thought the VP2 was top of the line for Davis, no?
This is the lone function of the VP2 it doesn't have that the Vue console does, hence why I bought one a year ago.

Ah ha! Another reason for a VP3!!
I realize we're getting OT, but my entire reason for a PWS is to see what's going on outside. I highly doubt a VP3 will be superior to what I have now.

If a superior product does comes out, which has all the bells and whistles that you have.....
See, that's just it, I don't have "bells and whistles" as you well know. What I do have is a PWS that brilliantly does it's job. That's everything for me. =D>
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 27, 2016, 09:31:51 PM
[/quote from CW2274]
See, that's just it, I don't have "bells and whistles" as you well know. What I do have is a PWS that brilliantly does it's job. That's everything for me. =D>
[/quote]

But WU occasionally drops your Goldstar status and Gladstone doesn't always give you passing QC checks! 
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on November 27, 2016, 09:36:53 PM
The dry Fall season continues. Only .04 in the past 50 days.
Nasty dry down here. :-(
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 27, 2016, 09:39:21 PM
WU gold stars lol... Definitely something to take seriously
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 09:41:46 PM
But WU occasionally drops your Goldstar status and Gladstone doesn't always give you passing QC checks!


 :shock:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 27, 2016, 09:43:26 PM
But WU occasionally drops your Goldstar status and Gladstone doesn't always give you passing QC checks!


 :shock:

Happens to the best of us. However, some aspirin and meditation usually fixes these issues.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 09:44:27 PM
But WU occasionally drops your Goldstar status and Gladstone doesn't always give you passing QC checks!


 :shock:

Happens to the best of us. However, some aspirin and meditation usually fixes these issues.
That's for after.... UU
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 27, 2016, 09:48:39 PM
WU gold stars lol... Definitely something to take seriously

Shouldn't you be in bed rather than monitoring weather humor in the US?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 27, 2016, 10:16:40 PM
Jacksonhole has a nice snow going tonight. http://www.jacksonholenet.com/webcams/town_square.php
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 10:19:19 PM
Jacksonhole has a nice snow going tonight. http://www.jacksonholenet.com/webcams/town_square.php
All I see is a tee-shirt... :-"
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 27, 2016, 10:26:01 PM
Jacksonhole has a nice snow going tonight. http://www.jacksonholenet.com/webcams/town_square.php
All I see is a tee-shirt... :-"

Really? Are you using chrome or something else? Works on chrome for me even full screen in HD or chromecast to TV.

Snow scenes don't work in Arizona! Works fine here in Chicago--home of the World Series Champs!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 27, 2016, 10:28:13 PM
I tried IE without add blocker and I see the triple-D T-shirt now, but the video feed is still there.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 27, 2016, 10:30:21 PM
Stream on Youtube but no full screen mode unless you go to youtube.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 27, 2016, 10:35:38 PM
I see the triple-D T-shirt now
Oops, busted..... :lol:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 27, 2016, 10:36:56 PM
I see the triple-D T-shirt now
Oops, busted..... :lol:

Too much Arizona sunshine!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 27, 2016, 10:45:47 PM
I see the triple-D T-shirt now
Oops, busted..... :lol:

Too much Arizona sunshine!

For those that get cold watching the snow try the Bali trail cam of elephants taking tourist on rides. Temperature stays the same year round.

http://www.earthcam.com/indonesia/bali/?cam=bali1
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 27, 2016, 11:29:24 PM
Never too cold to watch the snow
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 27, 2016, 11:44:36 PM
here is what is in store in the near future for us. this  from our forecast discussion.

850 mb temperatures from around -20C to colder than -25C will
continue to cover most of the northern Alaska mainland through
Friday, with the exception of the southeast interior which could
see temperatures moderating to around -10C Tuesday and Tuesday
night, but with colder air returning Wednesday.

Surface temperatures will be governed by both the temperatures
aloft and cloud cover. Temperatures in inland areas with clear
skies could fall to 25 to 40 below. However, RH progs from the
current model runs suggest that cloud cover will persist over
most areas under the trough aloft and this will serve to mitigate
temperatures at the surface. The greatest likelihood of clear
skies and colder surface temperatures is expected to be in areas
near and west of the upper trough axis.



John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 28, 2016, 04:46:57 PM
Noon time here and we are at minus 10 and dropping.  At 0700 this morning it was -2 . looks like the artic front is passing thru... Clear and cold is the forecast for today. Yesterday we came up with inch of powder. was an real lazy snow fall.

Now  to go fire up the Kubota and  move some  house warming material.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 28, 2016, 05:00:50 PM
It also got colder here, I just got home and it is also relatively windy. We are also somewhere around -2.... just slightly different units :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: chief-david on November 28, 2016, 05:24:05 PM
Not winter here yet.

High of 52F. Over an inch of rain today-pea size hail-thunder-lightining.

Funnel clouds in Iowa. Tornado warning near Cedar Falls/Waterloo, IA.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 28, 2016, 06:06:27 PM
GFS forecast for snow next 2 days. I'm looking at an 1-2" is all here.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 28, 2016, 06:22:07 PM
Well at 15 below now and  hour of daylight yet sunset around 3 these days. Be under 5 hours of daylight starting in December.  Once sun drops behind the horizon  temps will really start to drop.  Plugged the old ford in to  keep engine block warm so make easier on bearing  when starting.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 28, 2016, 06:37:48 PM
GFS forecast for snow next 2 days. I'm looking at an 1-2" is all here.

It is too early for snow! Call somebody to complain. I am still trying to fix a drainage issue from last year. A couple underground gutter extension drains froze last year and when melting on the roof occurred in March, the frozen gutter extensions wouldn't let the water come down the gutter downspouts, rather it flowed into my house!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 28, 2016, 07:55:28 PM
Just hit our coldest temp so far this winter. at sunset it was -20 and  we are dropping in temp at 4 deg./hour according to WD software.

 If just  going  on the Dew point and  drop rate  I can hit down around 29 below tonight.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 28, 2016, 08:00:49 PM
-2 here ;)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ocala on November 28, 2016, 08:10:39 PM
Just hit our coldest temp so far this winter. at sunset it was -20 and  we are dropping in temp at 4 deg./hour according to WD software.

 If just  going  on the Dew point and  drop rate  I can hit down around 29 below tonight.

John
29 below? :shock:
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 28, 2016, 08:13:19 PM
29 below zero  the same temperature your freezer is at.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 28, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
-2 here ;)


Celsius or Fahrenheit? I believe your country uses Celsius, if so not that cold!

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 28, 2016, 08:48:34 PM
Yes, Celsius :)

Btw.... all countries use C - except yours :D (and a very few small ones) :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 28, 2016, 08:57:57 PM
Yes, Celsius :)

Btw.... all countries use C - except yours :D (and a very few small ones) :D
True, but our scale has better cardinal precision. ;)
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 28, 2016, 09:38:02 PM
Our makes more sense :grin:

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 28, 2016, 09:51:58 PM
Our makes more sense :grin:

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100

On paper that makes sense, however, that is only at sea level. Much of the State of Colorado, for example, is a mile high (in feet) and boiling point at that elevation is 200F or less.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 28, 2016, 09:52:47 PM
Our makes more sense :grin:

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100
Everything metric makes more sense.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 28, 2016, 09:55:09 PM
Our makes more sense :grin:

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100
Everything metric makes more sense.

Disagree. It is what a person gets used to, and I hate the metric way of measuring. That said, if I was raised on metric, I would probably like it and hate the US way!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: CW2274 on November 28, 2016, 10:07:46 PM
Our makes more sense :grin:

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100
Everything metric makes more sense.

Disagree. It is what a person gets used to, and I hate the metric way of measuring.
Well, Ron, just cause it's what you're "used to" doesn't mean it necessarily makes more overall sense. No?
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 28, 2016, 10:29:13 PM
Our makes more sense :grin:

Freezing point is  0, boiling is 100
Everything metric makes more sense.

Disagree. It is what a person gets used to, and I hate the metric way of measuring.
Well, Ron, just cause it's what you're "used to" doesn't mean it necessarily makes more overall sense. No?
The U S will never change, rightly or wrongly, so I will accept the US way, and conclude it makes more sense, at least for Americans!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: PaulMy on November 28, 2016, 10:59:58 PM

Quote
That said, if I was raised on metric, I would probably like it and hate the US way!
I was born and raised until age 10 in metric (remember well the little cups we had in school, from very small to 1 litre, each 10 times larger than the other, and how easy it was to remember).  Then to the imperial system in Canada and learning an inch being the King's thumb and a yard his reaching-out arm...  #-o until metrication in the 1970s when gas went from about $1 to 25c :-s  and we could drive 100 per/h 8)


It took me about 20 years to quit converting in my mind from metric to imperial, and now totally quite comfortable with metric, except understanding L/100 vs mpg ;)


So actually you can get used to it, and like it \:D/


Enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 28, 2016, 11:34:42 PM

Quote
That said, if I was raised on metric, I would probably like it and hate the US way!
I was born and raised until age 10 in metric (remember well the little cups we had in school, from very small to 1 litre, each 10 times larger than the other, and how easy it was to remember).  Then to the imperial system in Canada and learning an inch being the King's thumb and a yard his reaching-out arm...  #-o until metrication in the 1970s when gas went from about $1 to 25c :-s  and we could drive 100 per/h 8)


It took me about 20 years to quit converting in my mind from metric to imperial, and now totally quite comfortable with metric, except understanding L/100 vs mpg ;)


So actually you can get used to it, and like it \:D/


Enjoy,
Paul

Ain't going to happen in the US in my life time (I am retired). Probably unfortunate, but there is no impetus in the US to change. Until an impetus results, no change will result.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 29, 2016, 05:27:11 AM
we would got metric here  but the cost of retooling everything would be to great and set back  the industry.  lot of ships I sail on had Metric and British Whitworth  then throw in SAE and you have an mess.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 29, 2016, 05:28:58 AM
As of 0100 we hit 30 Below here.  getting close to that spot where C and F is the same.  Maybe this week if no down slope winds  come into play.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 29, 2016, 06:38:33 AM
I totally understand that you are used to it.

But I have to disagree with you and say that metric indeed does make more sense. Simply because it is based on multiples. Not just the 0 and 100 on the Celsius scale, but also other measurements.

Just a few examples:

100cm = 1m
1m = 1000km
1000g = 1kg
1000kg = 1 ton

vs

1ft = 12in
1mi = 5280 in
16 ounces = 1 pound

etc etc....
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 29, 2016, 08:35:01 AM
As far as F vs C , I'll take F. The US resisted the larger size of each degree Celsius so to eliminate fractions and increase the granularity of the scale thought the F scale was better. I agree with this theory and glad at least for temperature we stayed on the Fahrenheit scale.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 29, 2016, 10:31:27 AM
Yes, I sort of agree with that. You could also say that in F, the 100 I think corresponds to human body temperature and the point you made also makes sense.

however with the other measurements (length, weight etc.) metric just is much easier to calculate with, there is no doubt about that. If for example I asked you what is 5.4 pounds in ounces or I asked you what is 350g in kg, surely one would be much easier for you to calculate in your head.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 29, 2016, 11:04:54 AM
Believe that was the thinking 100F body temperature actually 98.6F and the other end 0F was the coldest the Germany Physicist Fahrenheit experienced in his town.

The metric system otherwise is better IMO.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 29, 2016, 11:11:26 AM
Yes I know it is not exact, but thats how he defined it... I guess he probably had a fever when he was doing it :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 29, 2016, 11:15:57 AM
:D

https://www.wired.com/2010/11/1110mars-climate-observer-report/
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 29, 2016, 01:17:08 PM
Hit 35 below  nothing this morning here at the cabin  and have couple mouse wandering thru the yard.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: George Richardson on November 29, 2016, 01:47:46 PM
Hey John,
Either you have very good eyes or you forgot to close the top of that "u". :lol:
George
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 29, 2016, 01:52:53 PM
T-stat says 68.

Walking around the yard, I'm seeing new fresh growth on the apple tree and a couple of other plants.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 29, 2016, 01:59:32 PM
Lol ok George kinda half a sleep yet. Still getting first cup of coffee into me.. Every k once in a while we do spot an vole scurrying across the snow to new hideout or horde that they have.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 29, 2016, 04:52:34 PM
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv23/Scalphunter_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20161129_123153_zpsil2eady1.jpg)

Our Daytime high
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Old Tele man on November 29, 2016, 05:03:04 PM
As quipped by salty sailors: "That's COLDER than a Witch's teat in a BRASS brassiere in a Siberian Outhouse!"
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 29, 2016, 05:18:29 PM
"Nice" :D

I have said this before, I really like cold, winter, dark.... but I must say I have never experienced a temp below -20F. Probably the lowest I remember was somewhere around -15F. But I guess it probably doesnt make that much difference, once it gets below certain threshold, you just feel..... very cold :D It is just different in that you get frost bite much faster.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 29, 2016, 07:22:40 PM
As of today we are under 5 hours of daylight . sun comes up around 1000 and sets around 1500.  not much chance for sun tanning.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 29, 2016, 07:39:34 PM
LOL ... Im sure the lack of sun light is the only reason why you dont go out tanning at -30F :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 29, 2016, 07:44:21 PM
"Nice" :D

I have said this before, I really like cold, winter, dark.... but I must say I have never experienced a temp below -20F. Probably the lowest I remember was somewhere around -15F. But I guess it probably doesnt make that much difference, once it gets below certain threshold, you just feel..... very cold :D It is just different in that you get frost bite much faster.

There is a benefit to temperatures this cold. You can easily defrost your refrigerator! Put everything in the freezer outside, and the stuff from the non-freezer part of the refrigerator usually does well (about 40F) in an attached garage. Then just unplug the refrigerator, go to bed, and in the morning, just wipe the unit down, turn it back on, and in a few hours or so, put everything back in the refrigerator, and you will be good to go, and your neighbors will undoubtedly be impressed on how good the refrigerator now looks! 😺💨😀
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 29, 2016, 07:55:07 PM
:D That reminded me of a conversation I had with my friend a few years ago.... he asked me whether if you put your refrigerator outside when it is freezing, if it would heat up the food :D :D He was very disappointed when I answered no :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 29, 2016, 08:54:21 PM
 My son was station here at Ft Wainright.  Well once it got cold some of the soldiers family in the Base housing for what ever reason would put  meat and other frozen good out in the snow with temps hitting the  hard minuses.  Nothing wrong with that but they would  forget to mark there cache. It  snows  covers it over  and they can't find it. Comes spring thaw and warmer days now the lost is found and  very rotten and smelly.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 29, 2016, 08:57:02 PM
:D Bon apetit :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 29, 2016, 09:55:32 PM
We are down to - 5C, but it is 4 am already so it probably won't drop much more
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WheatonRon on November 29, 2016, 10:08:53 PM
We are down to - 5C, but it is 4 am already so it probably won't drop much more

-5C is too warm to defrost and clean refrigerator, but -5F works! Another advantage to Fahrenheit! Just kidding re the advantage!
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 30, 2016, 05:34:05 AM
:D Yeah I agree.... sort of applies in the summer as well :D Despite the fact I hate high temperatures I would probably still prefer 100F over 100C :D
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 30, 2016, 10:54:40 AM
So, fall is about to end here in about 7 hours :D

I can already say that it has been the coldest November since I began measuring in 2012. In fact also this year´s Oct was the coldest I measured. In contrast September was the warmest Sep I had and so was June. Today we are below zero the whole day, but no snow.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Scalphunter on November 30, 2016, 03:32:34 PM
-34 this morning  and  high  at noon is -24.   Sun just barely hitting the top of the trees here. Some clouds but not enough to impact the temp.
 Did receive some snow  before temps slide  south towards the -30 mark

stay warm  throw another log on the fire.

John
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 30, 2016, 06:18:52 PM
Winter just began 15 minutes ago here :D

And I take back what I said a few hours ago......

Quote
.... but no snow

:D Not much, but it is snowing and because it is also freezing, it stays on the ground.
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: WeatherHost on November 30, 2016, 06:37:11 PM
Winter just began 15 minutes ago here


Or ....... not for another 3 weeks.

Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: Jáchym on November 30, 2016, 06:54:08 PM
:D

I actually was curious about this and so I took the daily normals for my city and found the warmest and coldest 90 consecutive days to see how much it deviates from the astronomical/meteorological summer/winter.

And I found that the meteorological seasons are actually pretty accurate. If the seasons here were based purely on the real temp values we would have:
Summer: Jun 4 - Sep 4
Winter: Dec 2 - Mar 2
Title: Re: Fall 2016
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 01, 2016, 11:30:12 AM
I knew November was warm it ended 4th warmest on record which goes back to late 1800's.

From NWS North Platte:

For Valentine, the average daily mean temperature for the month of
November was 42.1 degrees which was 7.7 degrees above the normal of
34.4 degrees. November 2016 will go down as the fourth warmest
November on record, tied with the year 1913
. The average daily high
temperature for November was 57.0 degrees which was 9.3 degrees
above the normal of 47.7 degrees. The average daily low temperature
for the month was 27.3 degrees which was 6.1 degrees above the
normal of 21.2 degrees. One daily record high temperature was set
during the month of November for Valentine. On the 9th, the high in
Valentine was 76 degrees. This mark broke the record of 75 degrees
set previously in 2001