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Title: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on December 27, 2011, 01:34:55 PM
OUT OF PRODUCTION, SORRY!



edited 4 Dec 2013 by SLOweather



I have several interfaces assembled and boxed and ready to ship. Availability is limited until I receive more parts and can build up more stock. Please PM or email me for the ordering URLs, so I don't get over sold. Ask about international shipping. I've successfully sent these to the UK, AU, NZ and other locales.

Also, based on inquiries, I've added a 25' cable option.



(http://wx.sloweather.com/images/dsi-01.jpg)
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: meteo.quimper on December 28, 2011, 05:30:39 AM
Hi

Great work !!! Can you tell me if it possible to update the firmware of the console with your interface ? not with the direct pc install but with the separate .bin file (http://davisnet.com/support/weather/downloads/software_direct.asp?SoftCat=2&SoftwareID=203 (http://davisnet.com/support/weather/downloads/software_direct.asp?SoftCat=2&SoftwareID=203)) because i need to translate the forecast located in the firmware in french and to send the translated firmware in the console.

Best regards
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on December 28, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
I have done the direct PC firmware update with this interface. I don't believe that it's possible to perform an update with it which requires the Davis Updater, although I've never tried it.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: johnd on December 28, 2011, 12:24:30 PM
I don't believe that it's possible to perform an update with it which requires the Davis Updater, although I've never tried it.

Chris, it sounds like you may not have used the updater? If you check the 6311 documentation at:

www.davisnet.com/weather/products/wx_product_docs.asp?pnum=06311VP2

you'll see that you actually have to remove any logger before using the updater. The 6311 pack contains a 'link program adapter' which plugs direct into the console socket . (If you think about this makes sense, because not everyone with a console will have a logger and so Davis needed to provide some way of updating the console firmware without forcing users to buy a logger.)

Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on December 28, 2011, 12:36:43 PM
Yeah, I used the updater several years ago to do the update which enabled the follow-on direct PC updates. Actually, I rented it from Davis and then sub-rented it to a bunch of other Davis owners so we all paid only a few $$ for the use of it.

I thought meteo.quimper was asking if my serial interface could be used to perform an update which otherwise requires the Davis updater.

Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: johnd on December 28, 2011, 01:03:18 PM
OK, sorry I misunderstood. You were actually wondering whether the non-'Direct PC' firmware version might install (but presumably only to a console with recent enough firmware to support the Direct PC update)?

How would this work? You'd surely need some analogue of the 'Direct PC' packaging to feed the F/W to the console wouldn't you?  But maybe I don't understand well enough how the F/W update process runs?
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: meteo.quimper on December 28, 2011, 03:24:48 PM
Yes, i want to update a console with recent firmware (1.90) without the direct-pc firmware, because i can only translate the forecast (english -> french) in the FLASH.BIN file (direct modification inside the VP2_1_90.exe don't work)...
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Ginny on December 29, 2011, 03:36:39 PM
I just want to give a shout out that this DSI-01 Serial Interface is great.  Works, easy, and saved me a ton of money.

I really wanted the Davis Vue for Christmas, but buying the data logger just put it over my husband's budget.  I got this from SLOweather and it worked like a charm.  Got the system up and running yesterday.  Used an old laptop running XP and had a serial port.  I can't say how pleased I am.  Thanks SLOweather.

Ginny
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: JACK10562 on December 29, 2011, 04:54:56 PM
For those of you without a serial port, unless I'm mistaken, you should be able to incorporate an inexpensive serial to USB adapter for under $10(US)that will more than likely allow this solution to work very nicely with a 32 bit virtual serial port driver such as N8VB vCOM. For 32 or (64 bit unsigned) you could try com0com.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: dogdad on December 30, 2011, 01:36:14 PM
Ditto what Ginny and Jack10562 (and others) have said about the DS-01 itself, and it working with serial/USB converters. 

My DS-01 worked perfectly right out of the box, and also thru a generic serial/USB converter.  Sorry, but I can't find any info/name anywhere on the converter, and it just shows up as a 'Prolific" device in Device Manager.  IIRC, the Prolific chip series seemed to be better than some other configurations, but don't quote me on that.

Kudos Chris!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on December 31, 2011, 01:11:35 PM
Thanks for all the kind words!. Yes, indeedy, the interface works with Serial/USB adapters. In fact, I do all my testing of built boards and cables with an ATEN serial/USB adapter.

I'm sending a DSI-01 off to Austria right now....


Chris
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: mike_b on December 31, 2011, 05:47:17 PM
My DSI-01 works great through an Edgeport Serial/USB converter. It's nice to have the option of a reasonably priced interface to connect my weather station to the computer. Thanks Chris!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: lmolson on January 08, 2012, 10:23:16 PM
So this should bridge the connection if I already have a Davis Vantage Pro, serial to usb dongle, and Virtual Weather Station software?  No additional software or hardware needed?
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: JACK10562 on January 08, 2012, 10:48:51 PM
Drivers for the dongle might be the only thing you need, and you may have to assign a different port to the USB-to-Serial Com Port properties in Windows Device Manager.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: hexxeh on January 16, 2012, 02:28:13 AM
i am trying to contact SLOWeather for availability on these serial adapters, and cannot find him throughout pm's. as he says on first post, we can contact him also by mail, but i cannot see the mail address on his profile. can anyone inform me of that on PM?

ty alot

 
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on January 16, 2012, 12:10:17 PM
PM received and sent Dimitris.

Keep in mind that your PM arrived in my mailbox at 1:02 AM local time and I was fast asleep.

I'll edit my profile and unhide my email.

Chris

i am trying to contact SLOWeather for availability on these serial adapters, and cannot find him throughout pm's. as he says on first post, we can contact him also by mail, but i cannot see the mail address on his profile. can anyone inform me of that on PM?

ty alot

 
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: ayde_bury on January 16, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
Just a quick note to say thank you and that the module arrived with me in the UK this afternoon.

Even with the £11.83 of UK customs charges this is still a very cheap method of getting my Vantage Vue online - now comes the scratching the grey matter for Com port baud rates etc under a Windows 2008 server :)

and an hour later, we're up and running on Weather Underground - what an excellent piece of equipment the DSI-01 is  =D>
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: ayde_bury on January 17, 2012, 04:51:19 PM
Also adding to my previous post about the DSI-01, I was able to update my Vue firmware to the most recent version using this - great work and no more low battery message :)
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SkiMedicKC on January 26, 2012, 12:18:14 AM
 =D> Received my DSI-01 over the weekend, and tonight had a chance to get things running.   Pulled an old "WinXP" computer out of the attic, bought a wi-fi dongle, downloaded Cumulus, and within 30 minutes was posting to CWOP and WU.   \:D/

Now to create a full website...  should be fun!!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: moehoward4 on February 12, 2012, 10:01:05 AM
No joy here for me :-(   Installed it this morning and it ran great for about 75 minutes and then froze every thing... VVP, VPLive, Cumulus and VWS and the console. Drivers for the USB-Serial cable(Prolific) seemed to be OK. I went for a 2nd try and again, worked for about the same amount of time with the same results???? So I went back to my Davis logger till I figure this out.  ANY suggestions ......?????
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SlowModem on February 12, 2012, 10:14:22 AM
No joy here for me :-(   Installed it this morning and it ran great for about 75 minutes and then froze every thing... VVP, VPLive, Cumulus and VWS and the console. Drivers for the USB-Serial cable(Prolific) seemed to be OK. I went for a 2nd try and again, worked for about the same amount of time with the same results???? So I went back to my Davis logger till I figure this out.  ANY suggestions ......?????

You should consider trying one software at a time to see if one of them is what's locking it up.  Sounds like some kind of conflict somewhere.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: moehoward4 on February 12, 2012, 10:21:41 AM
 :oops: :oops: : :oops:Yeah, I did kinda go right for the 'gustos'. Thanks, Greg...I'll just have to take more time to get going, WAS NOT thinking.    Jack
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: moehoward4 on February 12, 2012, 03:36:53 PM
 :oops: =D> :oops: =D>  DUH   I was being a creature of habit and trying to download archive from WL....ain't gonna happen...I totally forgot that you can't get memory from something that doesn't have memory. It's been running now(VWS, Cumulus and VPLive) for over 3 hours with no hang ups. I'm not the brightest bulb in the box sometimes.     Jack
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SlowModem on February 12, 2012, 04:27:18 PM
 =D> =D> =D>
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: moehoward4 on February 12, 2012, 04:51:47 PM
I did this at 5AM and again at 7AM...had not had my 2nd or 3rd cup of 'WAKE UP' yet...........
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: dalecoy on February 12, 2012, 05:09:21 PM
No joy here for me :-(   .....
... So I went back to my Davis logger till I figure this out.  ANY suggestions ......?????

Just curious why you are replacing your Davis logger.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: moehoward4 on February 12, 2012, 07:03:44 PM
Dalecoy   a couple of reasons...to try something new that was developed by someone here(those that are a whole lot smarter than me) and to have as a back up to my Davis logger. There are a few here that have little to no faith in the Davis USB logger. Mine has never given me any problems in and of itself, any trouble I have had were brought on by myself. Just look at my previous entries on this thread. BUT, I've got it figured out now.....     Jack
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: dalecoy on February 12, 2012, 08:56:23 PM
Dalecoy   a couple of reasons...to try something new that was developed by someone here(those that are a whole lot smarter than me) and to have as a back up to my Davis logger. There are a few here that little to no faith in the Davis USB logger. Mine has never given me any problems in and of itself, any trouble I have had were brought on by myself. Just look at my previous entries on this thread. BUT, I've got it figured out now.....     Jack

Thanks.  And yes, I think it's great that these alternatives have been developed.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Weather Display on February 13, 2012, 12:46:43 PM
Quote
There are a few here that have little to no faith in the Davis USB logger
no longer the case with the latest slicon labs driver
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Duck Fan on February 26, 2012, 12:21:22 PM
Received my DSI-01 on Friday and Saturday morning after a cup of coffee had everything hooked up, downloaded Cumulus and am uploading to PWS and WU. Thanks Chris...You ROCK!! 8-)
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: KD0MBL on March 27, 2012, 12:12:41 PM
Hi all,

Total newbie here. 

With this DSI-01 interface connected to my Vantage Vue console and my laptop via serial - USB interface, what other software and hardware is needed to start viewing my data on my computer?   
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: JACK10562 on March 28, 2012, 01:59:45 PM
With this DSI-01 interface connected to my Vantage Vue console and my laptop via serial - USB interface, what other software and hardware is needed to start viewing my data on my computer?   

No other hardware is needed other than an USB cable. You can use practically any weather software that you like that is capable of communicating with the COM port assigned to the DSI-01 hardware interface.
 
 The Weatherlink software that comes with your station is a good place to start even if you eventually decide to use something else.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: johnd on March 28, 2012, 03:07:43 PM
You can use practically any weather software that you like that is capable of communicating with the COM port assigned to the DSI-01 hardware interface.

Let's be clear please to avoid misunderstanding: With the original (non-Belfryboy) adapter you can only use software features that consume the real-time (LOOP) data that the console generates. Any features that rely on archive data in any way eg to fill in holes in the data feed won't (can't) work, because there is no logger memory to store the archive data. Granted, this limitation won't often be important in many applications but it is worth being aware of to avoid future disappointment.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: KD0MBL on March 28, 2012, 03:45:04 PM
With this DSI-01 interface connected to my Vantage Vue console and my laptop via serial - USB interface, what other software and hardware is needed to start viewing my data on my computer?   

No other hardware is needed other than an USB cable. You can use practically any weather software that you like that is capable of communicating with the COM port assigned to the DSI-01 hardware interface.
 
 The Weatherlink software that comes with your station is a good place to start even if you eventually decide to use something else.

Thanks Jack!

I was under the impression that WeatherLink was an option.  I don't remember receiving it with my station a couple years ago nor is it on the list of what was included in the box. 

What free or inexpensive software options are there other than Cumulus?  I'd like to get it on the internet and eventually APRS.

Thanks again! 
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: KD0MBL on March 28, 2012, 03:47:15 PM
Let's be clear please to avoid misunderstanding: With the original (non-Belfryboy) adapter you can only use software features that consume the real-time (LOOP) data that the console generates. Any features that rely on archive data in any way eg to fill in holes in the data feed won't (can't) work, because there is no logger memory to store the archive data. Granted, this limitation won't often be important in many applications but it is worth being aware of to avoid future disappointment.

johnd,

I'm sorry to say I don't know the difference. 
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: johnd on March 28, 2012, 04:01:11 PM
Well, the Vantage console/logger system generates two quite distinct types of data:

First there's real-time data (termed LOOP data by Davis) generated approximately every 2 seconds and containing a snapshot of current weather conditions. This is not stored at all, but is simply passed to any receiving PC that requests it. If a LOOP packet is missed it's not too crucial because there'll be another packet along in about 2 secs time.

Then there's archive data. This is data that's summarised over a preset period, often something like every 5 or 10 minutes. If you have a true data logger fitted this archive data can be stored by the logger for up to 2 weeks (in the case of the 10 minute period, but pro rata with the period selected). So in this case it doesn't matter whether a connected PC is switched on (or even connected at all). You can connect up a PC say every 2 weeks, download the stored archive data to the PC and then disconnect the PC again. And you will still have a detailed record of all the weather readings, summarised over short periods of time such as every 5 or 10 minutes.

Obviously if you don't use a true data logger then this archive data can't be captured at all (because there's no logger memory in which to store it). Now with a lot of non-Davis software, this doesn't matter because the PC software is creating all its records based on the real-time data. But it does mean that the connected PC does need to remain connected and switched on 24/7 if data is not to be lost.

So if you're expecting to run a PC 24/7 and don't mind an occasional loss of data if the PC happens to lose power or misbehave from time to time, then an adapter like the one described in this thread can be an excellent  solution. But please remember that it's not a complete substitute for the full logger with memory.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: dalecoy on March 28, 2012, 04:11:19 PM

 
 The Weatherlink software that comes with your station is a good place to start even if you eventually decide to use something else.

WeatherLink software does not come with the station.  If you purchase a Davis logger, you also get the WeatherLink software (and license to use it).
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: JACK10562 on March 29, 2012, 05:03:48 AM
Thanks, John & Dale, for the expansion and clarification.

My apologies, Weatherlink software does NOT come with the Davis console.

In addition to Cumulus (which I run 24/7) there are a couple of other easy to use free software's such as WUHU and VP Live, that you can upload your station data to CWOP/APRS and WeatherUnderground.  Links to download and use these are in the forum Weather Software section
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: KD0MBL on March 29, 2012, 10:02:06 AM
Jack, John & Dale,

Many thanks!

-neal
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: rhallman on April 13, 2012, 11:43:17 AM
Is this interface still avialble for the VP1?   I need to update two consoles and looking for a cable that will work for the firmware updates.

Thanks...
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: belfryboy on April 13, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
This cable will not work for updating firmware on VP1 boards, they were never enabled for direct PC updating
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: rhallman on April 13, 2012, 05:19:02 PM
Ok...Thanks for the update.  I thought this was already tested with a VP1 board to do firmware updates.  I guess Im back to looking for the Davis updater board then.   Thanks...
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: dalecoy on April 13, 2012, 10:22:06 PM
Ok...Thanks for the update.  I thought this was already tested with a VP1 board to do firmware updates.  I guess Im back to looking for the Davis updater board then.   Thanks...

Contact wxwatcher http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=14732.0

The problem is that there is no direct-from-computer firmware update for the VP1.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: viker on June 20, 2012, 02:19:28 PM
hello
I have just hooked up the interface to my Meteohub, it functions perfectly!  \:D/

best regards

Christer
Viker
Sweden
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on June 27, 2012, 05:46:45 PM
Bump.

I have several of these made and ready to ship. (Pre-boxed and everything...) And, I can always make more. :) To get the PC board cost down, I ordered 500, and have at least 400 left.

PM me for the order page. Using the USPS Priority mail service I can also ship internationally.

Chris
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: mopac01 on July 02, 2012, 11:42:04 AM
I purchased one of these early in the year and I can confirm that it definitely is a viable option, particularly for those on a budget.  Having just purchased my VP2, I couldn't afford the Davis options.  I used this to connect via a Keyspan serial to USB adapter with my Mac Mini running 10.6 Snow Leopard (the Mac operating system) with the latest Apple OS patches and Keyspan drivers.  The Keyspan adapter was brand new as well.  (I'm running Weathercat Mac software on the Mini to handle my data logging, graphing and uploading to WeatherUnderground.)  

The only issue I had, which I'll post here for the benefit of others who might try this, was an occasional loss of the data feed by my Weathercat software.  All the software was up to date, so I added ferrite cores EVERYWHERE to try to eliminate any interference. This did not resolve the problem.  I also noted that when the Mac lost the data feed the VP2 console also locked up.  It wouldn't respond to key presses for around a minute or so.  Then everything went back to normal - although the Mac still had lost the data feed.  I used a watchdog feature of the Weathercat software to force a recycling of the Weathercat software.  This would reestablish the communication and all was well again.  This resulted in a few minutes of dropped data 2 or 3 times a day on average.  But everything was fully automated, so for the cost I found it a very acceptable solution.  

Since then, I've "recovered" from the cost of VP2 and just purchased the Davis WeatherLink IP logger.  My WeatherCat software is able to poll from this logger without problem even with the logger firmware also uploading to the Davis WeatherLink site as well.  (I know I could move the uploading to WeatherUnderground from my Weathercat software to the Weatherlink site, but Weathercat is working just fine.)

Even though I'm not presently using my DSO-01, I applaud the effort at creating it.  I have no problems recommending it for those looking for a much less expensive solution for capturing their data than what Davis offers.

I would also add that having moved to the IP solution, I can't imagine going back to USB or serial.  The IP seems rock solid, plus my console doesn't need to be next to my computer any longer.  If Davis could just imbed a wi-fi chip in their IP logger then it would be an even slicker solution.  However, it wouldn't completely free the console from cords as the IP logger MUST have the wall wart attached.  The batteries will only power a console with the IP logger for a very short time -  I think measured in hours, if not minutes.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on August 13, 2012, 01:10:27 PM
This cable will not work for updating firmware on VP1 boards, they were never enabled for direct PC updating

The Paypal link brings up a non-USD price.

What is the cost USD including shipping to GA, USA, please?

Thanks!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on August 13, 2012, 01:13:42 PM
Bump.

I have several of these made and ready to ship. (Pre-boxed and everything...) And, I can always make more. :) To get the PC board cost down, I ordered 500, and have at least 400 left.

PM me for the order page. Using the USPS Priority mail service I can also ship internationally.

Chris

OK, I was confused by the following post.

I looked here and saw nothing: http://wx.sloweather.com/ (http://wx.sloweather.com/)

Then I reread and saw I needed to PM ... doing so now ...
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on August 16, 2012, 01:19:29 PM
DSI-01 arrived today and was a very simple install, thanks!

QUESTIONS:

1.  What device identification does the DSI-01 or Davis Vantage Vue present to the computer?

(I need to know if I am looking at the correct device.)

2.  Are you aware of anyone using the DSI-01 and Davis Vantage Vue with weewx or wxview in Linux?

Thanks again,

David
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on August 16, 2012, 01:59:13 PM
On a Windows machine, you should know what serial COM port you are using. If you are using a USB-Serial adapter, you could check the device manager to see what COM port is assigned.

I don't know how that works in Linux...

If you want to know if you are looking at the correct device, open a terminal program (in Windows, Hyperterminal), connect to that port at 19,200 8N1, CAPS lock on and send TEST, enter. You should get TEST back from the console. Send VER enter, and you'll get a firmware version, NVER returns a different version of the version. :)

DSI-01 arrived today and was a very simple install, thanks!

QUESTIONS:

1.  What device identification does the DSI-01 or Davis Vantage Vue present to the computer?

(I need to know if I am looking at the correct device.)

2.  Are you aware of anyone using the DSI-01 and Davis Vantage Vue with weewx or wxview in Linux?

Thanks again,

David
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on August 16, 2012, 02:44:50 PM
Is it possible that it would show up as 4 com ports?

On a Windows machine, you should know what serial COM port you are using. If you are using a USB-Serial adapter, you could check the device manager to see what COM port is assigned.

I don't know how that works in Linux...

If you want to know if you are looking at the correct device, open a terminal program (in Windows, Hyperterminal), connect to that port at 19,200 8N1, CAPS lock on and send TEST, enter. You should get TEST back from the console. Send VER enter, and you'll get a firmware version, NVER returns a different version of the version. :)
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HarpMudd on August 27, 2012, 04:53:17 PM
Anyone have any luck using a serial-to-usb converter and using the DSI-01 on a mac?
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on August 29, 2012, 10:49:59 AM
What is the pinout for the serial connector, please?

I am trying to connect it to the ArgentData OT3m dual-port TNC for APRS rather than through a computer.

The Davis interface is recognized when connected directly to the OT3m (and others).

Thanks!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on August 29, 2012, 11:02:31 AM
What is the pinout for the serial connector, please?

2 TX
3 RX

5 GND

7-8 jumpered

(Or 2 is RX, 3 is TX, I always have trouble with that. Try it each way.)
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: oleweatherfan on September 03, 2012, 09:17:24 AM
How would i hook this thing up?  I know the ethernet end would probably hook to router and serial end goes to computer but where does the black thing and other end of cable go?? Sorry if this is dumb question just weighing my options on which station i should get. If i get the vue i will purchase this data logger.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on September 05, 2012, 07:54:52 PM
How would i hook this thing up?  I know the ethernet end would probably hook to router and serial end goes to computer but where does the black thing and other end of cable go?? Sorry if this is dumb question just weighing my options on which station i should get. If i get the vue i will purchase this data logger.

The black thing goes inside your Davis VantageVue - be careful not to alter the angle of the pins.

Did the usually-enclosed instructions get misplaced?  They are what I followed for installation.

The RJ45 "ethernet" connector plugs into the Serial adapter then that plugs into the Serial port of your computer - or if you don't have a Serial port then use a Serial-to-USB adapter.

HTH ...
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on September 05, 2012, 07:56:55 PM
What is the pinout for the serial connector, please?
2 TX
3 RX
5 GND
7-8 jumpered
(Or 2 is RX, 3 is TX, I always have trouble with that. Try it each way.)

Should the following work?

I tried to get Minicom (console/terminal in Linux) to see the Davis by doing the following:

1. Opened a Console/Terminal
2. "ls -l /dev/tty*"
3. "dmesg | grep -1 tty"
4. I noted that ttyS0 and ttyS1 were listed, when I tried the
    following with ttyS0 the terminal stopped responding but
    with ttyS1 it appeared to work OK - though no output.
5. Closed Xastir.
6. Shutdown the laptop, connected the serial cable, restarted.
7. Opened a Console/Terminal
8. "echo -ne '\CO\xFF\xCO' > /dev/ttyS1"
9. "Minicom -D /dev/ttyS1 -b 19200 -o"

Nothing.

A little help, please?
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: DeKay on September 06, 2012, 10:34:29 AM
What is the pinout for the serial connector, please?
2 TX
3 RX
5 GND
7-8 jumpered
(Or 2 is RX, 3 is TX, I always have trouble with that. Try it each way.)

Should the following work?

I tried to get Minicom (console/terminal in Linux) to see the Davis by doing the following:

1. Opened a Console/Terminal
2. "ls -l /dev/tty*"
3. "dmesg | grep -1 tty"
4. I noted that ttyS0 and ttyS1 were listed, when I tried the
    following with ttyS0 the terminal stopped responding but
    with ttyS1 it appeared to work OK - though no output.
5. Closed Xastir.
6. Shutdown the laptop, connected the serial cable, restarted.
7. Opened a Console/Terminal
8. "echo -ne '\CO\xFF\xCO' > /dev/ttyS1"
9. "Minicom -D /dev/ttyS1 -b 19200 -o"

Nothing.

A little help, please?

Start simple.  Power up the laptop with everything connected.  To verify which port to connect to, unplug the usb - serial adapter, plug it back in, and do "dmesg | tail".  Skip step 8.  Fire up minicom (see here) (http://madscientistlabs.blogspot.ca/2011/01/davis-weatherlink-software-not-required.html) and just type in TEST a couple times.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on September 07, 2012, 03:20:30 PM
I just tried different settings:

1. Opened a Console/Terminal
"echo -ne '\CO\xFF\xCO' > /dev/ttyS0" (I tried S4, S3, S2, S1, but only S0 responded properly)

2. "Minicom -D /dev/ttyS0 -b 19200 -o"

3. CTRL-A then z

4. In the pop-up Menu "E" to to turn on Echo

5. Then on blank screen (no command prompt) type TEST and received TEST echo.

6. VER = Oct 25, 2010

7. NVER = 2.14

8. STRMON = scrolling groups of data

9. STRMOFF = data display off

10. Next I will look at the scripts & see what ArgentData says ...

Thanks!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: DeKay on September 07, 2012, 09:56:56 PM
I just tried different settings:

1. Opened a Console/Terminal
"echo -ne '\CO\xFF\xCO' > /dev/ttyS0" (I tried S4, S3, S2, S1, but only S0 responded properly)

It looks like you aren't properly escaping this string.  Aren't you missing an 'x' before the first 'C0'?  i.e.

echo -ne '\xCO\xFF\xCO'

not

echo -ne '\CO\xFF\xCO'  ???

Also, could you educate me why this command is necessary in the first place?  I don't have a DSI-01, so perhaps this is some necessary incantation to wake the interface up?  The incorrect (I think) formatting of the first string suggests you aren't really sending what you think you are sending, so it may not be necessary at all.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on September 07, 2012, 10:08:09 PM
Sorry, that was a fat-fingered typo.

"echo -ne '\xCO\xFF\xCO' ..." is what I used

And, yes, you are correct - it was unnecessary.

I did it before I discovered the CTRL-A z pop-up Menu where I could select "E" and set the echo on.

Now I am waiting on a reply from the ArgentData folks as to how I might get their OT3m to process the data stream - or if I have to have some PC-based (Linux-friendly) app pre-process it.

I already have Xastir dealing with the APRS details of mapping, etc. via a USB link to the OT3m, and have read that I may need a Perl script if I want WX data to be integrated into Xastir, or perhaps I might be able to backround-process the data and ship it out the Serial port to the Serial port on the OT3m.

The OT3m has a primary and a secondary port.

Thanks!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: DeKay on September 07, 2012, 11:11:00 PM
Now I am waiting on a reply from the ArgentData folks as to how I might get their OT3m to process the data stream - or if I have to have some PC-based (Linux-friendly) app pre-process it.

If it is Perl scripts you are looking for, these scripts (http://andrew.mcmillan.net.nz/projects/Davis::VantagePro) might get you started.  Or you could tear into this code (http://www.weewx.com/) if Python is more your thing.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on September 08, 2012, 12:35:22 PM
Does this:

http://andrew.mcmillan.net.nz/projects/Davis::VantagePro (http://andrew.mcmillan.net.nz/projects/Davis::VantagePro)

or this:

http://blog.ancient-workshop.com/post/2011/12/10/Weather-Station-Hacking
 (http://blog.ancient-workshop.com/post/2011/12/10/Weather-Station-Hacking)
or this:

http://madscientistlabs.blogspot.com/2011/01/davis-weatherlink-software-not-required.html (http://madscientistlabs.blogspot.com/2011/01/davis-weatherlink-software-not-required.html)

Look helpful?

I never was much of a coder/scripter and what little I used to know I have forgotten.

Thanks!

David
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Ginny on November 10, 2012, 08:22:51 AM
Well, the old laptop I have been using seems to be dying.....have another one, but no serial port.  Any one use this with a usb to Serial port adapter?
Thanks
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: moehoward4 on November 10, 2012, 09:55:31 AM
Ginny    Yup, it will work with the usb to serial adapter.      Jack
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on November 10, 2012, 11:18:03 AM
I you, or anyone else, finds a Linux app that can read the weather data - and especially if you can get it out to an Argent Systems APRS device - I'd sure like to hear about it.

Right now the DSI-01 is laying on the table completely useless.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Bushman on November 10, 2012, 02:59:41 PM
I you, or anyone else, finds a Linux app that can read the weather data - and especially if you can get it out to an Argent Systems APRS device - I'd sure like to hear about it.

Right now the DSI-01 is laying on the table completely useless.

You mean something like this?  https://github.com/bradmc/weewx_aprs_addon
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on November 10, 2012, 03:44:20 PM
Thanks for the link!

I have inquired on the Puppy Linux dpup Exprimo discussion list if someone could port it over to that distro.

I will report back if that works out & I am able to make some progress ...

Thanks again!

David
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Bushman on November 10, 2012, 07:19:31 PM
You are welcome.  If it is Python, it should be no big deal to port to another distro.  I have Python code I run on 4 or 5 distros and in most cases no mods required. And remember - Google is your friend!!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on November 10, 2012, 07:36:37 PM
The Puppy folks are usually very helpful so I will wait on them.

I've tried compiling and porting and always make a mess of things - it's wiser for me to be patient.

BTW: IMHO Google is not my friend, they are unfriendly to privacy.

I SEARCH with ixquick or startpage or one of the others - just as good and private!

YMMV ...  ;-)

Thanks!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Bluezx636 on November 26, 2012, 08:27:54 AM
Hi I just have a few questions about the DSI-01 Serial Interface...

-Is this all I need besides software to connect a vantage vue to my computer to websites like wunderground?
-Will this work with an Apple I-Mac computer?
-I heard rumors of new firmware update might cause problems with third party cables is everything still working fine with latest firmware?
-Is the only difference between this and the Davis logger that the davis stores info yours wont but both can get weather stations on to the internet though a computer?
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: johnd on November 26, 2012, 08:36:08 AM
-I heard rumors of new firmware update might cause problems with third party cables is everything still working fine with latest firmware?

To date, I've seen only one report that confirms incompatibility between the latest VP2 ('AA' in the Mfg Code) and Vue ('MB') consoles and third-party adapters of various sorts. But there's no reason at all to doubt that report, which would also tie in with what one might predict with the new console versions and their known incompatibility even with older Davis loggers. So the working assumption has to be that the latest consoles are simply not compatible with the third-party adapters.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on November 26, 2012, 12:51:29 PM
Quote
To date, I've seen only one report that confirms incompatibility between the latest VP2 ('AA' in the Mfg Code) and Vue ('MB') consoles and third-party adapters of various sorts. But there's no reason at all to doubt that report, which would also tie in with what one might predict with the new console versions and their known incompatibility even with older Davis loggers. So the working assumption has to be that the latest consoles are simply not compatible with the third-party adapters.

Are you saying that the incompatibility is in the hardware or the firmware?

What date of manufacture/serial number/firmware version ID's the "latest", please?

Thanks!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: johnd on November 26, 2012, 12:57:40 PM
Are you saying that the incompatibility is in the hardware or the firmware?

There's no totally definitive information as yet. (There's no v3.00 F/W available for download for instance). But my guess is that it's hardware and F/W jointly.

Quote
What date of manufacture/serial number/firmware version ID's the "latest", please?

Mfg Code is 'AA' and 'MB' as above (actually there may be some 'MA' Vues out there, but I've not seen any).F/W on all these is currently v3.00.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: KD0MBL on November 27, 2012, 02:13:45 PM
I have been using this interface for several months now. 

I am very pleased with how easy it was to set up.  It works quite well even after extending the serial cable to at least 30 ft. 

I've had only complaint that I finally took the time to rectify today.  This interface creates RF noise heard on several frequencies on my Ham Radio HF bands.  A raspy chirp is heard every time the data is updated across the interface coinciding with measurement changes visible on the Cumulus software.  I placed a capacitor across the black and green conductors to remedy it.  As far as I can tell now, all is well. 

Again, I really appreciate the effort that went into putting this interface together!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on December 03, 2012, 04:31:06 PM
I edited the first post, and I'll post this disclaimer here as well:

NOTE: DO NOT ORDER THIS INTERFACE IF YOUR CONSOLE MANUFACTURING CODE
STARTS WITH AA  (VANTAGE PRO 2) OR MA (VANTAGE VUE) OR GREATER
OR  THE CONSOLE FIRMWARE IS 3.0 OR GREATER!!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on January 03, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
I have been unable to get any useful data from my DSI-01 interface.

I just stumbled upon this:
http://www.joejaworski.com/weather/

I am wondering if the DSI-01 might work via the Troy XCD Serial Server to translate Vantage Vue output for use with HTML (as described in his article) and with an ArgentData OT3m for APRS.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on January 04, 2013, 12:42:25 AM
Handygeek,

I'm sorry that you are having trouble with your DSI-01 interface. If you had contacted me directly, we could have accelerated the troubleshooting process. I've even shipped replacement interfaces at no charge to facilitate the process.

Having said that, have you read the post preceding yours in this thread? Do you have a very recent console with Manufacturing Codes beginning with 2 letters instead of one, or firmware rev > 3.X? If so, my interface will not work. Contact me via email or PM and I will refund your money upon return of the interface.

If not, I'll be happy to work with you on troubleshooting your issues with the DSI-01. Again, email or PM me with the details of your setup so I can be of the most help to you.

Best regards,

Chris



I have been unable to get any useful data from my DSI-01 interface.

I just stumbled upon this:
http://www.joejaworski.com/weather/

I am wondering if the DSI-01 might work via the Troy XCD Serial Server to translate Vantage Vue output for use with HTML (as described in his article) and with an ArgentData OT3m for APRS.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on January 04, 2013, 12:42:45 PM
There are multiple variables here ...

1.  The manufacturing code begins with a "F"

2.  I am Linux-only

3.  I am using Puppy Linux (Exprimo, based on dpup)

4.  I'd like to feed the data via HTML for both online and to APRS

5.  I don't recall how to read the firmware version

6.  The APRS device is an ArgentData OT3M & it didn't understand the data

7.  I have Xastir loaded for APRS & it didn't understand the data

Should I get a serial server as the linked article suggests?

Thanks!

Handygeek,

I'm sorry that you are having trouble with your DSI-01 interface. If you had contacted me directly, we could have accelerated the troubleshooting process. I've even shipped replacement interfaces at no charge to facilitate the process.

Having said that, have you read the post preceding yours in this thread? Do you have a very recent console with Manufacturing Codes beginning with 2 letters instead of one, or firmware rev > 3.X? If so, my interface will not work. Contact me via email or PM and I will refund your money upon return of the interface.

If not, I'll be happy to work with you on troubleshooting your issues with the DSI-01. Again, email or PM me with the details of your setup so I can be of the most help to you.

Best regards,

Chris



I have been unable to get any useful data from my DSI-01 interface.

I just stumbled upon this:
http://www.joejaworski.com/weather/

I am wondering if the DSI-01 might work via the Troy XCD Serial Server to translate Vantage Vue output for use with HTML (as described in his article) and with an ArgentData OT3m for APRS.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on January 04, 2013, 02:10:01 PM
The first question then is, can you talk to the console using the DSI-01, the serial port, and a terminal program? The settings should be 19,200, 8 N 1, no flow control.

Make sure you are using the correct port in the term program.

The console doesn't echo keystrokes, so you won't see anything until you hit enter.

TEST (all commands HAVE to be in CAPS) should return TEST, VER the date of the firmware and NVER (if the console supports it) returns the firmware rev.

I think all this is in the instructions I included with the interface.

Let us know the results of this testing.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on January 04, 2013, 02:45:56 PM
If I could find those instructions ...  :oops:

Date: Oct 25, 2010
Ver: 2.14

The first question then is, can you talk to the console using the DSI-01, the serial port, and a terminal program? The settings should be 19,200, 8 N 1, no flow control.

Make sure you are using the correct port in the term program.

The console doesn't echo keystrokes, so you won't see anything until you hit enter.

TEST (all commands HAVE to be in CAPS) should return TEST, VER the date of the firmware and NVER (if the console supports it) returns the firmware rev.

I think all this is in the instructions I included with the interface.

Let us know the results of this testing.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on January 05, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
I just heard back from Joe Jaworski and he recommended this SparkFun device as a substitute for the Troy, which proved tough to locate:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9476 (https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9476)

Terminal output re. Date and Firmware Version:

Date: Oct 25, 2010
Ver: 2.14
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on January 08, 2013, 11:31:50 AM
If anyone is looking to save a few $$ by purchasing my DSI-01 interface, I have some interesting news.

Rob at Rainmanweather.com just got in a big shipment of non-green-dot Vantage Vues and Vue consoles. These were manufactured in Dec but have 2.x firmware and single letter manufacturing codes.

Call him and ask for the non-green dot Vue or Vue console if you are so inclined. 888-672-4699

NOTE, this is Vues and Vue consoles ONLY. The VP2s are all green-dot.

And I have plenty of stock of DSI-01s for sale as well.

http://wx.sloweather.com/dsi-01.php
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on January 08, 2013, 12:44:23 PM
So my Firmware is old enough & I have communication with my Davis
Vantage Vue via the DSI-01

Is it reasonable to believe that Joe's Linux software & the SparkFun interface will
get me the needed access to the Davis Vantage Vue data stream via the DSI-01?

I just heard back from Joe Jaworski and he recommended this SparkFun device as a substitute for the Troy, which proved tough to locate:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9476 (https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9476)

Terminal output re. Date and Firmware Version:

Date: Oct 25, 2010
Ver: 2.14
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on January 14, 2013, 03:55:43 PM
Bump?

Still stuck at this stage ...

I can see the device to read the Version and Date.

Now what do I need to do next to discover a means to access the data, please?
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on January 14, 2013, 04:48:01 PM
Now what do I need to do next to discover a means to access the data, please?

I don't know that anyone here has the experience with a Linux project such as you've laid out, to be of much help.

We can tell you how to do it with Windows, and even some Mac people hang out here.

Based on my experiences, though, I would recommend breaking the project up into small chunks and make each chunk work before moving on. Else you will never know what's wrong if it doesn't work.

For instance, it seems as if you want to connect to a serial-over-ethernet adapter. I would install the TCP-IP com port software and make sure that it can talk to the adapter and then to the console before moving on.

Then you could install the demo Linux version of Weather Display and make sure that it can actually talk to the console and download data.

If you are having trouble with the Argent device, there may be a problem with handshaking line. Only 7 and 8 are jumpered in the DSI-01 green plug.
 
Keep us posted. You're breaking new ground here.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on January 14, 2013, 04:54:39 PM

Now what do I need to do next to discover a means to access the data, please?

This may be part of your problem:

Quote
6. The APRS device is an ArgentData OT3M & it didn't understand the data

From the Tracker3 web page (https://www.argentdata.com/products/tracker3.html):

Quote
# Weather Station Support - Supports Peet Bros, AAG 1-wire, and LaCrosse WS-2300 series weather stations.

Davis stations aren't mentioned. I believe the others all stream their data continuously from the serial port, where the Davis units have to be asked for it by the attached hardware/software.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: HandyGeek on January 15, 2013, 12:20:35 AM
The tonyperk post is an exciting new piece of information now added to the Forum!

I am editing the weewx.conf file and will follow his step-by-step process & report my results!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Dommer on February 07, 2013, 07:45:05 AM
Hi,

I recently purchased what I believe to be a non-green dot Vantage Vue from Rainmanweather.com, as I had specifically requested that from Rob based on SLOweather's post http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=14063.msg172284#msg172284

I would like to eventually either get SLOweather's cable/create my own and get this connected to a Linux system (Raspberry Pi).  Before I go down this path, I now have some concerns about the compatibility of my Vue. 

When I check the firmware version on my Vue's console (Done & "+" buttons), it shows up as Rev 2.14, which I believe is good.  When I check the Manufacturing code on the back, it starts with "MA", which would indicate a problem based on SLOweather's note below.

NOTE: DO NOT ORDER THIS INTERFACE IF YOUR CONSOLE MANUFACTURING CODE STARTS WITH AA  (VANTAGE PRO 2) OR MA (VANTAGE VUE) OR GREATER OR  THE CONSOLE FIRMWARE IS 3.0 OR GREATER!!


Can anyone confirm if I should be good to go with firmware 2.14 and a Mfg. code starting with MA?

Thanks!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: johnd on February 07, 2013, 08:54:57 AM
Can anyone confirm if I should be good to go with firmware 2.14 and a Mfg. code starting with MA?

That's an interesting one - first example I've heard of. I doubt very much that anyone outside of Davis will know the answer.

My guess would be that it wouldn't work - if you take the Mfg Code at face value then it's the revised hardware and then the hardware takes precedence over firmware as to whether it will work. But it is just a guess. Could have some rarity value  :-)
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: dalecoy on February 07, 2013, 10:15:06 AM
Can anyone confirm if I should be good to go with firmware 2.14 and a Mfg. code starting with MA?

That's an interesting one - first example I've heard of. I doubt very much that anyone outside of Davis will know the answer.

My guess would be that it wouldn't work - if you take the Mfg Code at face value then it's the revised hardware and then the hardware takes precedence over firmware as to whether it will work. But it is just a guess. Could have some rarity value  :-)

That is, however, the answer (indirectly) to the question that I posed in:

http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=18121.0


 It does not mean (either way) that 1.9 firmware would not run on a new console, if you could somehow load it.


2.14 firmware for the Vue, of course.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: SLOweather on February 07, 2013, 12:18:37 PM
PM me your postal address and I'll send you a DSI-o1 to test.

Hi,

I recently purchased what I believe to be a non-green dot Vantage Vue from Rainmanweather.com, as I had specifically requested that from Rob based on SLOweather's post http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=14063.msg172284#msg172284

I would like to eventually either get SLOweather's cable/create my own and get this connected to a Linux system (Raspberry Pi).  Before I go down this path, I now have some concerns about the compatibility of my Vue. 

When I check the firmware version on my Vue's console (Done & "+" buttons), it shows up as Rev 2.14, which I believe is good.  When I check the Manufacturing code on the back, it starts with "MA", which would indicate a problem based on SLOweather's note below.

NOTE: DO NOT ORDER THIS INTERFACE IF YOUR CONSOLE MANUFACTURING CODE STARTS WITH AA  (VANTAGE PRO 2) OR MA (VANTAGE VUE) OR GREATER OR  THE CONSOLE FIRMWARE IS 3.0 OR GREATER!!


Can anyone confirm if I should be good to go with firmware 2.14 and a Mfg. code starting with MA?

Thanks!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Dommer on February 07, 2013, 01:48:28 PM
PM sent with requested info, thanks for the offer to test this out.

I'll post my results once tested.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: RainmanWeather on February 10, 2013, 09:48:23 PM
Greetings. To clarify, I can absolutely confirm and guarantee that the 2.14 firmware on Vue console with manufacturing code starting with MA does work with the SLOweather interface. I have actually tested this and would not have suggested that it did work without first having done so.

Please disregard the conjecture that the 2 digit manufacturing code has anything to do with the compatibility, that has proven to be an incorrect assumption. it is the firmware 3.0 and Green Dot that matters. FW 2.14, no Green Dot IS GOOD regardless of MA code.

We still have plenty of them available in stock too!  ;)

Thanks, Rob



Hi,

I recently purchased what I believe to be a non-green dot Vantage Vue from Rainmanweather.com, as I had specifically requested that from Rob based on SLOweather's post http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=14063.msg172284#msg172284

I would like to eventually either get SLOweather's cable/create my own and get this connected to a Linux system (Raspberry Pi).  Before I go down this path, I now have some concerns about the compatibility of my Vue.  

When I check the firmware version on my Vue's console (Done & "+" buttons), it shows up as Rev 2.14, which I believe is good.  When I check the Manufacturing code on the back, it starts with "MA", which would indicate a problem based on SLOweather's note below.

NOTE: DO NOT ORDER THIS INTERFACE IF YOUR CONSOLE MANUFACTURING CODE STARTS WITH AA  (VANTAGE PRO 2) OR MA (VANTAGE VUE) OR GREATER OR  THE CONSOLE FIRMWARE IS 3.0 OR GREATER!!


Can anyone confirm if I should be good to go with firmware 2.14 and a Mfg. code starting with MA?

Thanks!
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: dalecoy on February 10, 2013, 10:57:35 PM

Please disregard the conjecture that the manufacturing code has anything to do with the compatibility, that was strictly an uninformed and incorrect assumption on someone else's part. it is the firmware 3.0 and Green Dot that matters. FW 2.14, no Green Dot IS GOOD regardless of MA code.


I'm sure it wasn't uninformed - it was johnd responding to my question about what would happen on a new console if you did install the old pre-green-dot firmware.  In other words is the new console hardware such that it is technically impossible for old firmware to run on it.

He said (paraphrasing) that Davis had said that you can't "downgrade" the 3.0 firmware on a new console, to the "pre-green-dot" firmware. 

I pointed out that firmware installers usually won't "down-level" the firmware.  So, the Davis statement didn't answer the question.

Now, that question has been answered.  [We still do not know if there are additional "features" in the new console hardware, though]
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: RainmanWeather on February 11, 2013, 01:24:18 AM
I was responding to the statement about the manufacturing code designating console compatibility. The fact is that actual testing has proven that the assumption that a 2 digit manufacturing code (i.e. "MA") on Vue console is not actually an indicator of compatibility. The only reliable indicator is the console version of 3.0 and the physical presence of a green dot on the packaging. Newer manufacturing codes as recent as MA121214xxx with FW 2.14 and no physical green dot on packaging have been tested to work with DSI-01. On the other hand, there were MB1211xxxxx codes that were 3.0 and green dot so perhaps that is where the manufacturing code does indicate the change happens at MB vs. MA.

I would say that it is probably likely that the 3.0 firmware is only flashed onto the new hardware (maybe manufacturing code MB?) that Davis claims is the reason for the change and that you will not be able to down-rev firmware on it, but that is strictly conjecture on my part and I have no hard information to back that up with.



Please disregard the conjecture that the manufacturing code has anything to do with the compatibility, that was strictly an uninformed and incorrect assumption on someone else's part. it is the firmware 3.0 and Green Dot that matters. FW 2.14, no Green Dot IS GOOD regardless of MA code.


I'm sure it wasn't uninformed - it was johnd responding to my question about what would happen on a new console if you did install the old pre-green-dot firmware.  In other words is the new console hardware such that it is technically impossible for old firmware to run on it.

He said (paraphrasing) that Davis had said that you can't "downgrade" the 3.0 firmware on a new console, to the "pre-green-dot" firmware.  

I pointed out that firmware installers usually won't "down-level" the firmware.  So, the Davis statement didn't answer the question.

Now, that question has been answered.  [We still do not know if there are additional "features" in the new console hardware, though]

Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Dommer on February 15, 2013, 02:33:04 PM

Success!!   =D>

I just wanted to report back that my Vantage Vue (firmware 2.14 Mfg code MAxxx) works with SLOweather's serial cable.

My setup:


Setup was quick, installed Cumulus, installed driver that came on CD with cable, hooked up cable and changed to Com port 3 on the Cumulus Station Settings page.

SLOweather, please send me a PM with what I owe you and I'll PayPal the amount to you (going away for weekend so may be paid early next week).

Thanks all!

Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: n7xrd on February 28, 2013, 10:42:06 PM
I edited the first post, and I'll post this disclaimer here as well:

NOTE: DO NOT ORDER THIS INTERFACE IF YOUR CONSOLE MANUFACTURING CODE
STARTS WITH AA  (VANTAGE PRO 2) OR MA (VANTAGE VUE) OR GREATER
OR  THE CONSOLE FIRMWARE IS 3.0 OR GREATER!!

Looks like this may work now with the latest firmware 3.12??
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Astronomer on March 09, 2013, 08:50:41 PM
I'm of the "try first and read manual later" school of doing things. I actually downloaded the 3.12 update, but I'm assuming that you can't update via the DS1-01? It recognized COM1 as active, but could not find the VP-2. After reading some of the latter part of this discussion thread, I'm not clear as to whether the DS1-01 will work with the new firmware. Last, what exactly do I need to perform an upgrade to the new firmware (which I will do only if my cable will work with it)? My VP-2 is running 1.90.  I am interested in the update because my Cumulus software's error log shows that it has the known issue of generating many connection errors.

edit: Stopping Cumulus allowed the update to find the VP2. I have not updated the firmware yet.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Astronomer on April 03, 2013, 07:47:48 PM
My VP2 console just came back from Davis today, and the firmware has been updated to 3.12. My Cumulus software is not getting data from the unit. Can I assume that the DS1-01 will not work with this firmware update...?
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: K3JAE on April 18, 2013, 07:41:24 PM
My VP2 console just came back from Davis today, and the firmware has been updated to 3.12. My Cumulus software is not getting data from the unit. Can I assume that the DS1-01 will not work with this firmware update...?

My understanding of the entire thread is if any Davis unit is v3.(whatever) the DS1-01 will no longer work.  Thus I shall remain at v1.90.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Intheswamp on May 09, 2013, 12:40:36 AM
Am I correct that both the DS1-01 *and* Virtual VP stopped working when v3.12 came on the scene?  :-s

Ed
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: JACK10562 on May 09, 2013, 07:56:30 AM
Virtual VP still works on v3.12, sort of.
WeatherLink, Cumulus, and VP Live all still connected normally through VVP, Virtual Weather Station and WUHU would not, for me, anyway.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Intheswamp on May 09, 2013, 09:59:59 AM
Thanks, Jack!  That gets me into the game with WeatherLink and Cumulus as those are two I wanted to start with!

Ed
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: Uksa007 on December 06, 2014, 12:01:35 AM
For anyone that may still be interested in a real RS232 (PC levels) logger, I put together a solution using a MAX3221E, I also had a need for USB so I made a board that can do both.

I program the AT45DB011 memory in circuit, so it works with the "Green Dot" consoles.
Also flow control is configured so it should work with weatherlink software if you have a licence, e.g. could replace failed hardware.
Works great with Cumulus, and should work with any software that supports Davis Pro/Vue consoles.

Photos show prototypes built as RS232 on the Left and USB on the right.

Thought I might offer them for anyone that needs a RS232 solution or USB, or potentially both on the one board.

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Prices Include Free International Postage!

Send me a PM if you are interested
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: miraculon on December 12, 2014, 09:19:08 AM
Does the Davis loopback test cable work with the DSI-01? I lost connection to my console since I installed my new computer. I am trying to troubleshoot the issue. The WL program cannot find the loopback with the cable connected.

Greg H.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: miraculon on December 12, 2014, 09:40:17 AM
Does the Davis loopback test cable work with the DSI-01? I lost connection to my console since I installed my new computer. I am trying to troubleshoot the issue. The WL program cannot find the loopback with the cable connected.

Greg H.

I just made a loopback connection at the RS232 pins and that works with PuTTYtel. Strangely, the WL loopback test does not work with the RS232 jumper. (handshake lines?)

I have an older VP2 console (eBay) that was working on this connection previously even after updating the firmware to 3.12.

I have removed battery/power and waited for over a minute for the console to discharge. Hmmm..

Greg H.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: miraculon on December 13, 2014, 03:43:51 PM
Does the Davis loopback test cable work with the DSI-01? I lost connection to my console since I installed my new computer. I am trying to troubleshoot the issue. The WL program cannot find the loopback with the cable connected.

Greg H.

I just made a loopback connection at the RS232 pins and that works with PuTTYtel. Strangely, the WL loopback test does not work with the RS232 jumper. (handshake lines?)


I have an older VP2 console (eBay) that was working on this connection previously even after updating the firmware to 3.12.

I have removed battery/power and waited for over a minute for the console to discharge. Hmmm..

Greg H.

I ran a test to see if there was something hosed up inside of this 2nd console. I removed the working WLIP from my original console and installed it into this console that had the DSI-01 installed. It worked fine with the WLIP and I was able to test communication and read out the data using Weatherlink.

Then, I placed the DSI-01 back into the 2nd console. IT WORKED!

Could the console Rx/Tx ports been hosed up and the WLIP "fixed" it somehow? Once it successfully communicated with the WLIP, it now works with the DSI-01. Bizarre!  :shock:

UPDATE: Well, after a while it is up to its old tricks and refusing to work again. I am beginning to suspect that there really is an issue with the 3.12 and the DSK-01, despite the temporary situation described above.


Well after eliminating everything else, I concluded that it was a hardware problem. I re-flashed the console firmware to 1.90 and is still happened. I took the console apart and re-soldered the logger connection on the main board. I have been running several days now with no problem. Before re-soldering the connector, it would take about 20 minutes to lose communication.

I suspect a cracked solder joint that manifested itself after time with the heating of the logger.

It was probably risky re-flashing with this thermal intermittent, but I did it right away after power on. (and I didn't know this at the time)

I now suspect that the WLIP didn't actually do anything, and it was the cooling and removal/replace of the loggers that disturbed the solder joints enough for it to work for a while.

Greg H.
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: daniel@yordanovi.com on August 06, 2015, 11:39:44 PM
Hi there! Looking for pinout and protocol of the console RJ11 of the Davis Vantage Pro 2 ISS transmitter!?
Title: Re: DSI-01 Serial Interface for Davis VP, VP2, Vue and Envoy availability
Post by: lele on February 28, 2016, 04:12:02 AM
Hi, I have a problem with a Vantage Vue VERSION 2.14   in connection on serial.
I use raspberry pi 2 .
My code is:

import serial


WXPORT = '/dev/ttyAMA0'
WXBAUDRATE = 19200
WXBYTESIZE = serial.EIGHTBITS
WXPARITY = serial.PARITY_NONE
WXSTOPBITS = serial.STOPBITS_ONE
WXXONOFF = False
WXTIMEOUT = 3

w = serial.Serial(WXPORT, WXBAUDRATE, WXBYTESIZE, WXPARITY, WXSTOPBITS, WXTIMEOUT, WXXONOFF)

w.write("\n")
w.write("VER")
print w.readline()



My output is a echo to the write.
For example
w.write(“VER”)
OUTPUT w.readline() is “VER” AND NOT THE VERSION THE VANTAGE VUE.


ANY SOLUTION?



I read the manual wospi (http://meteo.annoyingdesigns.com/WOSPi.pdf) and in the code:

wospi.wx = wospi.openWxComm()
#wospi.wx = w
wospi.readWxData() # read LOOP/LOOP2 packet(s), as determined by the LPS setting..
# Note: the wxDict and wxMinMax dictionaries are now populated.
# "print wxDict" and/or "print wxMinMax" will display the corresponding diction..
print wospi.getRawData(1, 9, 'H') # LOOP packet, offset 9, WORD value = inside ..
print wospi.getRawData(2, 43, 'B') # LOOP2 packet, offset 43, BYTE value = UV i...
print wospi.getRawData(1, 18, 'B') # LOOP packet, offset 18, BYTE value = Extra...
# Note: extra temperature is offset by 90 degrees F - ref. Davis documentation
print wospi.getRawData(1, 62, 'B') # LOOP packet, offset 62, BYTE value = Soil …

my output is:

Fri Feb 26 11:58:07 2016 LT: Console wakeup call, attempt no. 1 of 3.
Fri Feb 26 11:58:07 2016 LT: Console NOT responding to wakeup call.
Fri Feb 26 11:58:08 2016 LT: Console wakeup call, attempt no. 2 of 3.
Fri Feb 26 11:58:08 2016 LT: Console NOT responding to wakeup call.
Fri Feb 26 11:58:10 2016 LT: Console wakeup call, attempt no. 3 of 3.
Fri Feb 26 11:58:10 2016 LT: Console NOT responding to wakeup call.
Fri Feb 26 11:58:11 2016 LT: Unable to wake up the console. Check connections.
None
None
None
None

No responding send. Any solution?