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Title: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: m841 on September 18, 2017, 07:04:38 AM
Just wondering if others have had issues with their outdoor temp sensor failing and reading max values constantly?
A couple of weeks back the sensor suddenly flat lined at the min -40 temp, and then after some jigging around and reset of the console and the outdoor unit, the temp then shot up to +60 and has flat lined there ever since.
All other sensors are operating fine, and it hasn't mattered how many resets or cleaning that I've done it hasn't made a difference.

Is there any way to replace the temp sensor, or is the unit stuffed?
Just in case, the link to the WU page is https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=IATHELST2#history
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: pcorbridge on September 18, 2017, 07:06:49 AM
Hi,
I had the same issue last week and the rechargeable batteries in the outdoor unit needed replacing.
I inserted some I had lying around and initially the temperature stayed at 60C with the console saying batteries were low, but the following day all working fine.

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Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: m841 on September 18, 2017, 07:08:48 AM
I hadn't considered swapping them, since everything else was reading fine, but can't hurt to give it a go!
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: dupreezd on September 18, 2017, 07:36:12 AM
@m841, when did you buy your unit, before or after Jan 2016? It appears that units sold after this date have been upgraded to use the SHT31 sensor. Units before this has the bead temp sensor.

You can use standard AA batteries for testing, but then replace them with re-chargeable ones. The original batteries is good for about a year.
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: m841 on September 18, 2017, 07:51:19 AM
@m841, when did you buy your unit, before or after Jan 2016? It appears that units sold after this date have been upgraded to use the SHT31 sensor. Units before this has the bead temp sensor.
It was purchased about 13 months ago, so yes after Jan '16,but at the same time who knows how old stock can be!
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: dupreezd on September 18, 2017, 07:54:17 AM
Quote
It was purchased about 13 months ago,
About time to replace them anyway. Had to do mine just after the warranty expired.  :-)
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: m841 on September 19, 2017, 11:50:33 PM
Just changed the batteries now, and the outdoor temp reading is coming back down to normal gradually.

Didn't consider it to be the batteries since all of the other stats were reading fine from the unit!
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: Transporterman on September 20, 2017, 11:37:32 AM
Maybe just the fact that you removed the batteries rebooted it. 

After a huge temp spike on mine I used the reset button and followed the other instructions and now it seems ok.     
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: thereaper on September 20, 2017, 03:59:30 PM
i had the same problem  with the humidity heres my post  done away with the old sensor  been running a treat now and alot more accurate

http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32638.0 (http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32638.0)
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: m841 on September 20, 2017, 06:31:58 PM
Just changed the batteries now, and the outdoor temp reading is coming back down to normal gradually.

Didn't consider it to be the batteries since all of the other stats were reading fine from the unit!
I might have spoken too soon, as it ended up plummeting to -40c instead. I'll try a reset of the outdoor unit on the weekend as a factory reset of the panel didn't work either.
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: CW2274 on September 20, 2017, 06:41:51 PM
@m841, when did you buy your unit, before or after Jan 2016? It appears that units sold after this date have been upgraded to use the SHT31 sensor.
To clarify, the SHT31 is for the Davis VP2, not Ambient.
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: dupreezd on September 20, 2017, 07:00:21 PM
My unit (pre 2016) use the bead thermistor. Apparently, post Jan 2016, Fine Offset also started to use the SHT31 chip for their temp/hum sensor. Cant find where I read it.
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: CW2274 on September 20, 2017, 07:08:31 PM
My unit (pre 2016) use the bead thermistor. Apparently, post Jan 2016, Fine Offset also started to use the SHT31 chip for their temp/hum sensor. Cant find where I read it.
Well looking at their web site, I don't see any of their PWS with anything even close to the specs of an SHT31. Matter of fact, an SHT11 would out perform them.
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: dupreezd on September 20, 2017, 09:13:59 PM
This is where,  and yes, memory failing, it is a SHT30 and not 31.
http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32574.msg329059#msg329059 (http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32574.msg329059#msg329059)

Post 3 takes you to a link with a picture


Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: CW2274 on September 20, 2017, 10:07:30 PM
This is where,  and yes, memory failing, it is a SHT30 and not 31.
http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32574.msg329059#msg329059 (http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32574.msg329059#msg329059)

Post 3 takes you to a link with a picture
Wow, now that's convincing.
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: thereaper on September 22, 2017, 01:55:53 PM
 ive put the SHT31 in mine and its working very good :)
@m841, when did you buy your unit, before or after Jan 2016? It appears that units sold after this date have been upgraded to use the SHT31 sensor.
To clarify, the SHT31 is for the Davis VP2, not Ambient.
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: Transporterman on September 22, 2017, 06:17:10 PM
My temp sensor packed up again.  I'm returning it.  Hope the next one lasts longer than a month!  ](*,)
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: m841 on September 24, 2017, 03:05:21 AM
Looks like it is a stuffed sensor, as a few resets, battery swaps, and pleading hasn't resolved things.
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: m841 on September 24, 2017, 03:47:13 AM
Any suggestions on the best place to get a new sensor from others experience? Even better if there is an Australian source!
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: Pooley on September 27, 2017, 12:27:56 AM
Any suggestions on the best place to get a new sensor from others experience? Even better if there is an Australian source!

I got a 10 pack of these a while back. They work fine -
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NTC-10K-ohm-1-B3950-Thermistor-temperature-sensor-Cylinder-Probe-L75mm-Wired-/253143049400?var=&hash=item3af08064b8:m:mvuXRQgEGPwMwC6IKtuojcw (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NTC-10K-ohm-1-B3950-Thermistor-temperature-sensor-Cylinder-Probe-L75mm-Wired-/253143049400?var=&hash=item3af08064b8:m:mvuXRQgEGPwMwC6IKtuojcw)
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: thereaper on September 28, 2017, 02:00:30 PM
what pcb is it ?has it a single ic  or separate temp/humidity sensor?
is it like mine http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32638.0 (http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32638.0)
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: dupreezd on September 28, 2017, 05:49:08 PM
Would it be possible to post a picture of your sensor?
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: m841 on September 29, 2017, 09:44:28 AM
what pcb is it ?has it a single ic  or separate temp/humidity sensor?
is it like mine http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32638.0 (http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32638.0)
I'm overseas at the moment, so can't get a pic but yes, it looks like yours.
Title: Re: WS-1001 Outdoor temp sensor stuck
Post by: m841 on December 31, 2017, 12:11:17 AM
I never got around to checking this out when I got back, but with an xmas break there are times to get things done.

Looks like I need to replace it with a SHT30-D as per this thread https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32189.0 as the sensor is the same as senrabyar's