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Should Ambient/Ecowitt make the following changes to the WS2000/HP2551 UI?

Move the outdoor sensor signal/battery icons to the bottom right of the wind circle? Move the indoor signal/battery icons to the right of the CH icon?
1 (4%)
Move the outdoor sensor signal/battery icons between the outdoor temp and wind circles? Move the indoor sensor signal/battery icons between indoor temp and humidity circles?
2 (8%)
Option to display rain rate below the raindrop icon?
5 (20%)
Option to Show/Hide, "Rain started x:xxam" during rainstorm, then "Rain x days ago" after 24hrs of no rain?
6 (24%)
Option to Show/Hide, weather ticker. Adjustable scroll speed. Show/Hide select messages.
5 (20%)
None of the Above
6 (24%)

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Offline 49studebaker

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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2019, 06:30:29 AM »
Weather ticker for things like % rain chance and future wind direction and speed would have to be information pulled from the Internet to be accurate using your location.
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2019, 12:12:14 AM »
Weather ticker for things like % rain chance and future wind direction and speed would have to be information pulled from the Internet to be accurate using your location.

The WS2000 can communicate with the internet. The La Crosse Technology V40 Pro displays a NWS(National Weather Service) forecast and % rain chance based on zipcode. The NWS forecast is more accurate. It would be nice to see both the NWS forecast and the Ambient forecast based on current weather conditions.
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2019, 08:39:04 AM »
I think this might be trickier to get implemented.
You must remember that the WS-2000 is based upon a globally available console and its firmware (HP2550A)
I am not sure how easy it would be to do something that was US based only and how much Ambient is able to influence the firmware in that way.
By all means ask away but that's my thought process....
I am saying all this as I cannot see how it would be possible to engineer a global solution to the question posed!
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2019, 08:48:40 AM »
If there were any prioritizing of requested changes being given to the manufacturer; i.e., Fine Offset, it would be very much appreciated if they would first allow for all their equipment, not just one model:

 :arrow: the user to enter the elevation of the barometric sensor
 :arrow: a known gravity value at the station's location; otherwise, use a nominal value
 :arrow: incorporate the outdoor temp and station pressure into
 :arrow: properly calculating an adjusted sea level pressure, and altimeter pressure
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2019, 09:26:32 AM »
Mandrake,
That's what I was thinking. This is a global product.

Kelly,
Totally agree. And they should also publish the formula used to arrive at values.
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2019, 02:12:49 PM »
Did I miss something?? Since when did the WS2000 display outdoor sensor signal strength and battery status??

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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2019, 02:31:25 PM »
Did I miss something?? Since when did the WS2000 display outdoor sensor signal strength and battery status??

Since a bit over a month ago. March 28th when firmware 1.4.0 was released. You can see it right there in the release notes:
https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html

You might find this thread interesting exploring how the signal strength really works:
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=36486.0
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2019, 03:22:39 PM »
Thanks.  Lack of sensor signal strength has been my single biggest issue with the WS2000.  I'm now seeing 4 bars at 100'. (whatever that really means)

I'm not seeing anything related to battery level but I guess I'm not the only one.

Glad they're continuing to improve the display but it sounds like some more work is needed!!!
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2019, 06:30:45 PM »
If there were any prioritizing of requested changes being given to the manufacturer; i.e., Fine Offset, it would be very much appreciated if they would first allow for all their equipment, not just one model:

 :arrow: the user to enter the elevation of the barometric sensor
 :arrow: a known gravity value at the station's location; otherwise, use a nominal value
 :arrow: incorporate the outdoor temp and station pressure into
 :arrow: properly calculating an adjusted sea level pressure, and altimeter pressure

You could email Fine Offset. Here is their email: sales@foshk.com

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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2019, 07:11:24 AM »
You could email Fine Offset. Here is their email: sales@foshk.com

I gave up hope for them replying to any of my emails back in November 2018. They don't interact with the public, or at least as far as I'm aware of, as they are a manufacturer dealing exclusively with resellers of their products, albeit rebranded and with certain limited customization made; e.g., Ambient, Ecowitt, etc.

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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2019, 02:20:15 PM »
when I e-mailed FOSH via that address late last year I got replies from Lucy who directed me eventually to Ecowitt.
So I concluded that Lucy monitors both the FOSH and Ecowitt e-mail addresses. In fact for a long time my dialogues were to both domains and Lucy.
I would say that e-mailing Lucy via ecowitt.com will probably get you a more swifter response and whatever the official line she has a direct input to the guys creating the firmware.
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2019, 04:36:51 PM »
The conclusion might be the Ecowitt is Fine Offset and that is not the case. I've asked Lucy point blank and she said that they are separate companies. She may work for both companies and they may both be in China but their financials and for legal purposes etc., they are different companies. I wanted to know if Ecowitt was a sister company or subsidiary and I was told, no separate.
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2019, 07:54:56 PM »
You could email Fine Offset. Here is their email: sales@foshk.com

I gave up hope for them replying to any of my emails back in November 2018. They don't interact with the public, or at least as far as I'm aware of, as they are a manufacturer dealing exclusively with resellers of their products, albeit rebranded and with certain limited customization made; e.g., Ambient, Ecowitt, etc.

I emailed them and they replied a few hours later the same day. Maybe the email ended up in your spam folder.
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2019, 08:16:05 PM »
I don't think Henry would like his email posted without any spam protection. Normally a corporate email account such as info@ or support@ is okay to publish but not an individuals email unless they give you permission. Of course if they do it themselves then that is another matter.
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2019, 09:24:52 PM »
I don't think Henry would like his email posted without any spam protection. Normally a corporate email account such as info@ or support@ is okay to publish but not an individuals email unless they give you permission. Of course if they do it themselves then that is another matter.

I removed it.

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Do people not find a ticker useful? If it starts raining at 10:00pm and continues raining until 3:00am, it would be nice to see the rainfall from yesterday without looking through the records.

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They had to replace my console because the left half went 50% dimmer than the right - they blamed it on either defective console or under voltage of the AC adapter.

new one works fine except the little sensor that came with it isn't picking up on Channel 1 and I don't know how to fix that.
Anyone got a suggestion?

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In the settings (3 presses I think) you will find the Factory page.
In this section you can hit a option to re-register your internal sensor (assumed that's what you mean)
I would make sure that you have it within 5 feet or so of the station when you do that to be sure of registration.

Hope that helps!
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2019, 04:58:20 AM »
I think this might be trickier to get implemented.
You must remember that the WS-2000 is based upon a globally available console and its firmware (HP2550A)
I am not sure how easy it would be to do something that was US based only and how much Ambient is able to influence the firmware in that way.
By all means ask away but that's my thought process....
I am saying all this as I cannot see how it would be possible to engineer a global solution to the question posed!

The NWS(National Weather Service) has an API. The CMA(China Meteorological Administration) probably has an API. Would it be that difficult to pull data from those weather services?

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I get what you are asking for and why, though my personal opinion is that it will over complicate what the primary purpose of the personal weather station is which is to display local conditions.
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Ecowitt WH31 (x8) Thermo/Hygro Sensor
Ecowitt WS80 Ultrasonic Anemometer (pre-prod test)
Ecowitt WH57 Lightning Sensor -test
Ecowitt WH32-EP (SHT35) + Davis 7714 Screen
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I've seen that some Acurite displays have forecast from Darksky. I think that is a nice touch. I wouldn't mind having something like that.
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Re: Should Ambient make the following changes to the WS2000 interface?
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2019, 09:28:44 PM »
I think this might be trickier to get implemented.
You must remember that the WS-2000 is based upon a globally available console and its firmware (HP2550A)
I am not sure how easy it would be to do something that was US based only and how much Ambient is able to influence the firmware in that way.
By all means ask away but that's my thought process....
I am saying all this as I cannot see how it would be possible to engineer a global solution to the question posed!

The NWS(National Weather Service) has an API. The CMA(China Meteorological Administration) probably has an API. Would it be that difficult to pull data from those weather services?


NWS is not an option. Their server has limited capacities and Lacrosse used NWS service in the first place,  but one year later, NWS told Lacrosse that it is not allowed to have so many stations pulling data from their server. So now Lacrosse switched to Accuweather and this service is not free.

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Please consider WS-2000 is not only working with Osprey sensor array, but it also works with separated anemometer, rain gauge, outdoor temp/humidity sensors ( all these 3 sensors can be combined to function as the Osprey sensor array).  I think later Ambientweather will have these sensors available.  So that is why we have the signal strength/batt located at its current location.


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Henry,
Good information thank you. How about using Darksky for forecast like Acurite does on some of their displays?

PS - I sent you a private message some time ago. I never got a response. Maybe you have not noticed that feature on this forum.
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