Author Topic: WiFiLogger - Connect your Davis console directly to the Internet via WiFi  (Read 13424 times)

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Offline PraveenC31

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This is great but isnt the pricing too high? A belfryboy logger costs around 65$ I guess, add a raspberry pi to it for 35$ and you get same capability in 100$. Agreed that this has built in software to upload etc, but you can achieve the same using weewx etc on raspberry.

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Maybe, but that only for new devices. Those thousands that are on the market will not change.
I hope becouse of WiFiLogger there will be more Davis VP2/Vue users all over the world.
I very like Davis products.  I really don't want to make any problem for them.
They loose a lot of clients becouse other weather stations has communication with bluetooth,WiFi etc.
Davis weather stations has very good quality with reasonable price. We all know that data transmition is the weakest point, but we all still love it.
That why there is so many 3rd party software.

You may think that is a clone, but it was not possible to make this compact device without using the entire surface of the expansion port.
That becouse is has data logger form, you can power it from console and you have no additional wires.

It's 2018 WiFi and Ethernet and Bluetooth should be built into the console.



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This is great but isnt the pricing too high? A belfryboy logger costs around 65$ I guess, add a raspberry pi to it for 35$ and you get same capability in 100$. Agreed that this has built in software to upload etc, but you can achieve the same using weewx etc on raspberry.

Yes price is not low, but it's includes technical support, new updates, the possibility of cooperation with resellers, and a warranty.


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....Before WiFiLogger I had to run Weatherlink on my computer for data to show on Weatherlink.com  (free, non-subscription version)....

But that would not have been a WLIP logger, would it?
No, I have the USB logger connected to an Envoy and the computer and only run Weatherlink on occasion to maintain the .wlk data files and then switch back to Cumulus.  I have again been experimenting with VVP to run both Cumulus and Weatherlink at the same time.  But before WiFiLogger weatherlink.com did not show any data nor on the map until I was actually running Weatherlink.  Now with WiFiLogger weatherlink.com has constant data.  Not sure yet what consequences if I have WiFiLogger uploading to weatherlink.com and then also run Weatherlink off of the Envoy/USB logger on the computer.

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Sweet!  Any idea on pricing?

Pricing:

WiFiLogger price is $169. I think resellers will sell it with discount. You should expect -15% at the beginning.

There will be second product. WiFiLogger Lite with price $109. Also expect -15% at the beginning.
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Wojtek,
Are those in US$ and is shipping cost dependent on where it is bought?

Enjoy,
Paul

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At the proposed price point these things should sell like hotcakes!  Well done!  I will likely get one.  And I for one do not care about WL.com    BTW, any chance we will see a Bluetooth version?

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Wojtek,
Are those in US$ and is shipping cost dependent on where it is bought?
Paul
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I will do my best to find good reseller in US. If that happen, he will have own sell politics. WiFiLogger then should be treated like other items

If I will not be able to find somebody trusted, then I will have to send items from Poland to US. That takes minimum 14 days. In that case price will include shipping cost.
Who would want to pay for 14 days shipping?

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Ryan at Scaled Instruments for your US/North America dealer!!

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At the proposed price point these things should sell like hotcakes!  Well done!  I will likely get one.  And I for one do not care about WL.com    BTW, any chance we will see a Bluetooth version?

Thank you. A lot of good words were written under whole this post.

There is newer hardware to use with bluetooth onboard, but I would need another a few month to change it.
Bluetooth is local communication, it will not give you a big advantage.
I am thinking about external GSM addon. I should will be succeed. This is more important than Bluetooth.

WL.com it's under construction, we will see what it will can do. I don't know how about watching data on WL.com, but for transmit data from console to WL.com they have best solution of all.
No oder website accept archive data from data logger. All needs only current data. They accept also HiLows data.
For Davis weather stations it's the best.

For me to check data best site is www.pwsweather.com I like its data presentation.

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Ryan at Scaled Instruments for your US/North America dealer!!

Thank you. I will do my best to have a deal with Ryan in that case.

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Bluetooth is local communication, it will not give you a big advantage.
exactly, not sure what the advantage is

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Bluetooth is local communication, it will not give you a big advantage.
exactly, not sure what the advantage is

Think beyond the WL / PC-running-24-7 scenario.  This unit is like having a mini MeteoBridge installed *inside* your Davis console, sending your live data to a handful of the most popular PWS sites.  For those of us with no use for WL, this is practically the holy grail.....  \:D/
WU Gold Stars for everyone! :lol:

Offline waiukuweather

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yes
but a WiFi connection does that and more,which is what this has
no need for bluetooth...what advantage is that?

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yes
but a WiFi connection does that and more,which is what this has
no need for bluetooth...what advantage is that?

Other weather station and little devices has Bluetooth. So a standard has been created that modern devices must have bluetooth.
In practice, bluetooth works like a wireless serial port. Smartfon don't have serial, but has Bluetooth.
But if WiFiLogger will have Bluetooth I will need to make my own WeatherLink for android and iOS.
So you will have to be in range of Bluetooth with your smartfon to download data, export etc.
This option would never be used in practice.

There is also BLE technology, but this could replace the wireless ISS connection -> console, but this system which Davis use 900Mhz is much better.

So there was only no WiFi. Now there is.
And GSM. It will be.

Offline waiukuweather

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yes, that is the only advantage, to get the data via bluetooth to your phone and an app running on that
but you would need to be in range

and then if you are in range, you would be able to see the console anyway
but getting the history data into an app via bluetooth would only be an advantage if no wifi connection, e.g remote location?

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yes, that is the only advantage, to get the data via bluetooth to your phone and an app running on that
but you would need to be in range

and then if you are in range, you would be able to see the console anyway
but getting the history data into an app via bluetooth would only be an advantage if no wifi connection, e.g remote location?

If there is no router, WiFiLogger can generate WiFi network for you. Then your smartphone can connect to this network and that way you will be able to connect and receive data. Also If you have laptop you can make this direct connection WiFiLogger <-> Laptop, then using WeatherLink/Cumulus you can download data.
No router needed for local connection.
But idea was to connect console to the Internet.

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yes
so, really, no real need for bluetooth, agree?
great that it can generate a local wifi

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yes
so, really, no real need for bluetooth, agree?
great that it can generate a local wifi

It has to have that function. There is no other method to setup connection with router. You need to have connection to WiFiLogger to write SSID and password of your home WiFi.
For setup there is open not secure network, but you can establish secure network if you want.
It can have connection to router, and own WiFi network in one time, but there is no better thing on earth than simplicity. I would recommend to use WiFiLogger with home router. In this case you will forget that you have it, and it will make its job without your attention.

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I'd like to see/read the instructions on how one inputs/loads the (a) network name (SSID) and network security key (password) into the device...so the WiFi modem will talk to it; and, then,  (b) the Davis WL password so its transmissions will be recognized (and not blocked) at the Davis website.

I didn't see anyone answer this so I will...

When WiFiLogger is power up for the first time, it starts in a configure mode. For all other cases you have to switch WiFiLogger to setup mode. To do this you need to push setup button "red button” for about 10 seconds.

When you turn on config mode. WiFiLogger will start to act as an access point. You will be able to search for device "DataLoggerSetup” with your smart phone or computer on the Wi-Fi network.

So you connect to "DataLoggerSetup” network with your smartphone, or laptop then go to URL http://192.168.4.1/ and navigate Setup -> Wi-Fi Setup.  From there you put in your SSID  and Password DHCP enable and other typical things you would see for a "web enabled appliance".  Once you click "save" the Web site will reload with new settings. If everything goes correct a "Connection State” status indicator will change to "CONNECTED”.  From this moment forward  WiFiLogger is connected to your router and your home network.

It was very straight forward, even a chump like me understood the instructions and got it working right away within 5 minutes.

If any of you have set up a smart plug like a Belkin Wemo switch, it is sort of the same concept.

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yes
so, really, no real need for bluetooth, agree?
great that it can generate a local wifi

Sorry - no.  If BLE can be added, it would be a great feature.  I have several devices (like the BBQ smoker controller) that supports both wifi and and BLE.  BT would allow local connect when there is no internet.

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The WiFiLogger has its own web server which you can connect to directly via your local network. Lacking that, it can also act as its own access point. That's how initial setup is done.

Theoretically, if you had a bunch of these in the field in solar powered cabinets, you could do drive up downloads.

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Wow. Just found this thread! Very interesting. I have two complete VP2 systems—one connects to my computer using WL and uploads to CWOP, WU, etc. The second console just gets data from its related ISS so I compare, but for my eyes only. If I understand how this thing works, I can buy a WiFi logger and put it in my second console and after I get credentials from CWOP, WU, etc., I can upload two sets of data and view them on the internet without needing a second computer! An excellent concept! When and where will I be able to buy one here in the US?

Oh, oh. My second console has a firmware of 1.82, so unless I can update it to 1.9, I will have buy another console from Ryan at SI!
« Last Edit: May 15, 2018, 05:16:34 PM by WheatonRon »
Davis VP2 with 24 hour FARS, SHT31 (3 complete systems-2 for uploading to the internet the other system for test and play); CWOP--CW5020 and FW3075; WU--KILWHEAT17 and KILWHEAT36; WeatherCloud.net; CoCoRaHS--IL-DP-132; Rainwise 111

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If I understand how this thing works, I can buy a WiFi logger and put it in my second console and after I get credentials from CWOP, WU, etc., I can upload two sets of data and view them on the internet without needing a second computer! An excellent concept!
YES! and Weatherlink too!

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When and where will I be able to buy one here in the US?
Wojtek will answer that.

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If I understand how this thing works, I can buy a WiFi logger and put it in my second console and after I get credentials from CWOP, WU, etc., I can upload two sets of data and view them on the internet without needing a second computer!
Ron not sure, but I think doing that will that will confuse APRS, unless you put in different coordinates. How far away though....

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If I understand how this thing works, I can buy a WiFi logger and put it in my second console and after I get credentials from CWOP, WU, etc., I can upload two sets of data and view them on the internet without needing a second computer!
Ron not sure, but I think doing that will that will confuse APRS, unless you put in different coordinates. How far away though....

Yes. I think I will need different coordinates. The ISSs are about 40 feet apart, so separate coordinates are doable, I think.
Davis VP2 with 24 hour FARS, SHT31 (3 complete systems-2 for uploading to the internet the other system for test and play); CWOP--CW5020 and FW3075; WU--KILWHEAT17 and KILWHEAT36; WeatherCloud.net; CoCoRaHS--IL-DP-132; Rainwise 111