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Offline WiFiLogger

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I have release firmware 1.13 with CWOP coordinates fix.

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Woo hoo!!!  I got mine yesterday and got it installed last night.  It took me just a little bit to get it up and working, mainly because I was being fairly cautious, not to mention not being sure how everything works.  I'm fairly computer literate, but with the web stuff...

One of the things I noted that took me a while was when I entered my data to send information to WU, after I updated the information...all of the fields were blank so I thought I was doing something wrong.  I entered this information a number of times.  I then realized that it must be sending the information to the WiFi Logger, but just wasn't showing the data on that page.  I guess that is how it works, because it is sending the information to WU.

Again, I don't know if this is just me, but is anyone else having issues getting to the info page or connecting to the WiFi Logger after the initial setup?  I will enter the IP address assigned to it in the address bar and try to connect to it, but it doesn't connect.

Once I figure out how to connect to the logger again, I need to know how I can get the data from the PWS and forward it to Cummulus or Weather Display, but first I have to be able to get back to the setup page.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Rick
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Have you read the manual? I also had some difficulty setting the logger up but when I compared my setup to the screenshots in the manual, I figured it out fairly quickly.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2018, 11:55:28 AM by WheatonRon »
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One of the things I noted that took me a while was when I entered my data to send information to WU, after I updated the information...all of the fields were blank so I thought I was doing something wrong.  I entered this information a number of times.  I then realized that it must be sending the information to the WiFi Logger, but just wasn't showing the data on that page.  I guess that is how it works, because it is sending the information to WU.

Again, I don't know if this is just me, but is anyone else having issues getting to the info page or connecting to the WiFi Logger after the initial setup?  I will enter the IP address assigned to it in the address bar and try to connect to it, but it doesn't connect.

Thanks,
Rick

Rick which web browser do you use?
Please in a first step make update of WiFiLogger.
In firmware 1.11 is a little bug with display information on exports page. Please go to the first post and download firmware 1.13 and update manual.

You need to know IP number of WiFiLogger which was granted by DHCP service in you router. You can login to your router and there will be list of devices DHCP IP. You can use WeatherLink PC to find WiFiLogger inside your local network. You can scan your network using special soft (http://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com), you can press red button once more for 3-4s to enable SETUP MODE with open wifi "WiFILoggerSetup" connect to it and open page http://192.168.4.1/info.html there you can find your IP. Write it down, this number is key to access to you WiFiLogger from home network. Please remember to RESTART WiFiLogger to disable SETUP MODE. In SETUP MODE WiFiLogger won't connect to the Internet.

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Have you read the manual? I also had some difficulty setting the logger up but when I compared my setup to the screenshots in the manual, I figured it out fairly quickly.

Yes, I read the manual.  It wasn't as clear to me, not bad...it was working like it should I just didn't know it because I was expecting the data to still be in the fields where I entered it after it refreshed.
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Rick which web browser do you use?
Please in a first step make update of WiFiLogger.
In firmware 1.11 is a little bug with display information on exports page. Please go to the first post and download firmware 1.13 and update manual.

You need to know IP number of WiFiLogger which was granted by DHCP service in you router. You can login to your router and there will be list of devices DHCP IP. You can use WeatherLink PC to find WiFiLogger inside your local network. You can scan your network using special soft (http://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com), you can press red button once more for 3-4s to enable SETUP MODE with open wifi "WiFILoggerSetup" connect to it and open page http://192.168.4.1/info.html there you can find your IP. Write it down, this number is key to access to you WiFiLogger from home network. Please remember to RESTART WiFiLogger to disable SETUP MODE. In SETUP MODE WiFiLogger won't connect to the Internet.

I'm wondering if the web browser was part of the issue.  I was using Internet Explorer, but I thought I had also tried Firefox and had the same issues, but now I'm not sure.  I just tried Firefox and gained access.  I had performed a network search through my router's admin page and confirmed the IP address for the logger, so I had the address correct.  I'm not sure why I was having an issue this morning. :)

I will upgrade the OS for the logger here in a minute.

I also would like to know how to get the data from my PWS to the software like Weather Display or Cumulus, which in turn can be displayed on a web page.  Using the Weather Underground information is okay, but on my WU page it doesn't seem to keep track of the "history" like the pages generated by Cumulus does.
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It works like this.

In first step HTML file is downloaded then after 2 sec, JAVASCRIPT is downloading your settings.
Can you use different web browser?
Chrome, FireFox, Edge, Internet Explorer 11

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It works like this.

In first step HTML file is downloaded then after 2 sec, JAVASCRIPT is downloading your settings.
Can you use different web browser?
Chrome, FireFox, Edge, Internet Explorer 11

Yes, I'm currently using Firefox.
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Please remember that firmware upgrade has two steps.
1. update using BIN file
2. Upload about 10 html files.

Some updates don't required to upload all HTML files. I will inform you when it's needed.

From version 1.11 to 1.12 or 1.13 you need to upload all html files.
From version 1.12 to 1.13 only export.html
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This does require a router? Correct

Looking for a solution with someone that doesn't have traditional wired internet service. They are using a wireless cell signal (jetpack) Its basically a hot spot only.

The Verizon jetpack will take one of the WIFI WAN routers like Peplink Balance routers but this gets expensive and complicated for a novice.
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Please remember that firmware upgrade has two steps.

Also. people do need just to read/understand the instructions for updating. The steps are:

1. Update the firmware with the Firmware Update button;

2. Then update the HTML-related files in the HTML files upload section with a separate button.

Took me a few minutes at first to realise that these two are in separate sections (not sure why one says Update and the other says Upload?).

Sorry, this may be obvious to everyone but me!
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(not sure why one says Update and the other says Upload?).

Update - this is a full procedure, file upload, reboot, switch to a new firmware.
Upload - html files are send to store like on a pendrive(3MB). You can send other files if you want, but that is useless.
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This does require a router? Correct

Looking for a solution with someone that doesn't have traditional wired internet service. They are using a wireless cell signal (jetpack) Its basically a hot spot only.

The Verizon jetpack will take one of the WIFI WAN routers like Peplink Balance routers but this gets expensive and complicated for a novice.

Yes. It's required Internet access via WiFi medium. In practice needs a router with WiFi.
One unit is working with mobile router GSM/LTE and WiFi. This solutions is very good.
You can also make Hot Spot WiFi network using Android phone.

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This does require a router? Correct

Looking for a solution with someone that doesn't have traditional wired internet service. They are using a wireless cell signal (jetpack) Its basically a hot spot only.

The Verizon jetpack will take one of the WIFI WAN routers like Peplink Balance routers but this gets expensive and complicated for a novice.

Yes. It's required Internet access via WiFi medium. In practice needs a router with WiFi.
One unit is working with mobile router GSM/LTE and WiFi. This solutions is very good.
You can also make Hot Spot WiFi network using Android phone.


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This does require a router? Correct

Looking for a solution with someone that doesn't have traditional wired internet service. They are using a wireless cell signal (jetpack) Its basically a hot spot only.

The Verizon jetpack will take one of the WIFI WAN routers like Peplink Balance routers but this gets expensive and complicated for a novice.

The Verizon jetpack is a Wi-Fi Router.  (Although Verizon doesn't call it that).  It provides up to 15 simultaneous Wi-Fi connections to the internet - and those devices can operate as a LAN - so what would you call it?

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Please remember that firmware upgrade has two steps.
1. update using BIN file
2. Upload about 10 html files.

Some updates don't required to upload all HTML files. I will inform you when it's needed.

From version 1.11 to 1.12 or 1.13 you need to upload all html files.
From version 1.12 to 1.13 only export.html

I think I went from ver 1.11 to 1.13 so I uploaded all of the files contained within the html folder.  Prior to doing that I uploaded the .bin file. 

It appears everything worked just as it was supposed to; although not exactly as the directions.  When uploading the .bin file the directions state there is supposed to be a "upload successful" or something similar, mine appeared to reboot or something and went back to a different screen.  No real issues, I just went back to the other screen again and began uploading the files from the html folder.
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I also would like to know how to get the data from my PWS to the software like Weather Display or Cumulus, which in turn can be displayed on a web page.  Using the Weather Underground information is okay, but on my WU page it doesn't seem to keep track of the "history" like the pages generated by Cumulus does.

WiFiLogger has two separate channels to access for data from the console. Both are greedy.
- WiFiLogger internal software
- Access by Cumulus, WeatherLink, Display Weather etc. on port TCP 22222

Both can't work at same time, because console operate only with one software at the time.

WiFiLogger has options to disable internal software to make clear path for external software.
1. PAUSE - temporary - just click on time on first page, pause will be engage. - Good option to download archive records by WeatherLink or Cumulus.
    Please navigate to SETUP|SYSTEM and set "Pause Duration" first. To download arch. records 3 min is ok. To make console update 7 min is required.
2. SETUP|SYSTEM - permanent - navigate to Setup|System and disable:
    - Web Interface Access: - Real Time Data won't receive fresh data any more
    - Export Data Access: - WiFiLogger stop uploads to WU,PWS,CWOP etc.
    - You could also disable NTP in Setup|WiFi Setup by setting 0 as an interval .

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@WiFiLogger: Isn't there a 3rd mode where the WFL automatically pauses eg. minutely to allow 3rd party software to access the console? This is actually the recommendation by Davis for 3rd party SW. In these pauses it becomes possible to read/catch up archive data.

On another note, I think it would be beneficial to everyone to make the FW update process completely seamless and automated. No phases, distinction is not necessary between static HTML data and FW blob, etc., from a user perspective. Leaving the possibility for uploading individual static files is a good idea as it's possible to customise the web layout, but I think it's better to hide these details from those who don't care. A smartphone app would be ideal, but obviously it's another development investment, both in time and money.

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WiFiLogger I have the Davis VP2 console with the device installed, one thing I have noticed the last couple of days is my console is showing the inside temp inaccurately.  It is displaying a temp which is about 5-7 degrees higher than what it actually is.  Is it possible the logger is creating any heat?

On another note, I figured out how to connect it to my PC software (Cumulus) as well as it uploading data to WU.
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It is displaying a temp which is about 5-7 degrees higher than what it actually is.  Is it possible the logger is creating any heat?

I remember reading the same about the IP logger in these forums. I think an offset can take care of the temp itself but not inside humidity. That correction is more complex but possible. It's really an overlook on the part of Davis. Others with actual console+WLIP experience can probably tell more.

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WiFiLogger I have the Davis VP2 console with the device installed, one thing I have noticed the last couple of days is my console is showing the inside temp inaccurately.  It is displaying a temp which is about 5-7 degrees higher than what it actually is.  Is it possible the logger is creating any heat?

This is a problem with all loggers except the original serial one. The subject has been beaten to death for the USB logger (for which it tends to cause the most trouble) in numerous other threads. Basically, the console sensor is very close to the logger socket, in the same enclosure, and it is not realistically possible to design an IP or USB logger which does not produce enough heat to result in a substantial offset. As Kobuki notes, as long as you have the logger powered 24/7, a fixed offset will more or less correct the Temp reading, but correcting the Humidity reading will still be a problem. IMHO, Davis should have provided (at least) an optional way of 'exteriorizing' the console sensor.
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IMHO, Davis should have provided (at least) an optional way of 'exteriorizing' the console sensor.

Which there is on the current (wireless) Envoy consoles. The position of the RJ11 socket on the cabled consoles is used IIRC. Unfortunately because the Envoy board sits in the case less conveniently on the main VP2 console it's not possible to do the same there, to the best of my recollection.
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IMHO, Davis should have provided (at least) an optional way of 'exteriorizing' the console sensor.

Which there is on the current (wireless) Envoy consoles. The position of the RJ11 socket on the cabled consoles is used IIRC. Unfortunately because the Envoy board sits in the case less conveniently on the main VP2 console it's not possible to do the same there, to the best of my recollection.

I believe that I am correct in saying that the Envoy allows the plugging in only of an external temperature sensor. Measuring indoor humidity remains a problem. Your argument about the problems presented by the design of the VP2 console is a bit circular, since Davis were responsible for that design and could, presumably, have allowed for the possibility of an external sensor.
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Is this the one?

If so it has worse accuracy than the Sensirion one inside and I think it only allows whole C° or F° values. It's not a true solution, either. I never used it but isn't this handled as an add-on temp sensor and not a replacement for the internal one?

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Is this the one?

If so it has worse accuracy than the Sensirion one inside and I think it only allows whole C° or F° values. It's not a true solution, either. I never used it but isn't this handled as an add-on temp sensor and not a replacement for the internal one?

That's one option certainly, but AIUI it just effectively replaces/overrides the internal sensor (ie it's not an add-on sensor), so it reads to 0.1° resolution. Never tried a T/H sensor but it might work.

Measuring indoor humidity remains a problem. Your argument about the problems presented by the design of the VP2 console is a bit circular, since Davis were responsible for that design and could, presumably, have allowed for the possibility of an external sensor.

Of course you're correct in that Davis can do anything they choose with the case design, but that's not really what happened AIUI. Fortuitously, the existing Envoy case design allows an external RJ11 socket to be easily accessible, ie without requiring any case redesign. But for reasons I can't recall at this instant the same isn't true of the main VP2 console.
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