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Weather Software => Virtual Weather Station => Topic started by: Blizzard on January 23, 2017, 08:54:43 PM

Title: Mesonet
Post by: Blizzard on January 23, 2017, 08:54:43 PM
Am I the only one experiencing Mesonet issues since Jan 19th? Data from multiple stations won't update...
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: GregJ on January 23, 2017, 09:06:27 PM
It appears that all the feeds from Wunderground are not functioning in VWS.  Yet the uploads are working fine.  They are getting our data.  The 5 day forecast, weather advisories and mesonet are all not working.  This may be a permanent shut down... (not substantiated) but I think we should all email Wunderground about this issue.  There are too many VWS users out there for them to drop up like a hot potato...

Greg
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Blizzard on January 23, 2017, 09:29:46 PM
I will, but last time I did I got unsatisfying answers and I was told that if the API was working there is nothing they could do. It is as if they didn't know or really support VWS.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Impala88 on January 24, 2017, 06:44:17 AM
The Mesonets plus the 5-day Forecast and Weather Warnings are not working either.  I submitted a help ticket with WU but haven't gotten a response from them.  I contacted Ed at Ambient and he rather nonchalantly replied that "it appears they have turned this feature off".  This happened a few years ago and it straightened itself out after a week or so.  Let's hope it's fixed soon!
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Blizzard on January 24, 2017, 06:52:17 AM
I did too. Keep us updated. Depending on their answer, we could threaten them to unplug our station from their system...
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Jester on January 24, 2017, 07:35:13 AM
All mentioned is still down as of this AM. Still nothing from WU.  :evil:
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: tkrotchko on January 24, 2017, 10:06:15 AM
All mentioned is still down as of this AM. Still nothing from WU.  :evil:

I just reported this as well.   I asked them if I should stop sending data.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: ohlone on January 26, 2017, 04:49:19 PM
Same problem .  Its the end of VWS and Wunderground.  Wont either of these two play nice to each other???   :twisted: :evil:
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: BrianSB on January 26, 2017, 06:49:45 PM
Looks like it is up again now! Thanks WU!
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: tkrotchko on January 26, 2017, 06:55:08 PM
Looks like it is up again now! Thanks WU!

Yes, agreed!

But I need to begin planning to move away from VWS.  The lack of full support has become unacceptable to me.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Jester on January 27, 2017, 07:17:00 AM
Looks like it is up again now! Thanks WU!

Yes, agreed!

But I need to begin planning to move away from VWS.  The lack of full support has become unacceptable to me.

Same here...
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Cutty Sark Sailor on January 27, 2017, 08:21:04 AM
If you're depending on Wunderground for your data, enjoy the ride is all I can say. Yep I wish Ambient would upgrade VWS, but just look at the time the template developers spend keeping their templates updated between NOAA and the Wunderweenies bunch. As long as folks are focusing on WU ... sheesh... I can't understand why someone would dump a good program, among other things, to fiddle with sending/receiving data to/from a leeching commercial website. Why not just link to http://mesowest.utah.edu/ from where WU leeches a majority of its data directly anyway, or install or link to the available Mesonet template 'family' such as http://www.northamericanweather.net/ ?  (I think I can guess the responses to this already .. )
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: DaculaWeather on January 27, 2017, 08:27:07 AM
Working this morning (at least on one site that wasn't working...) Mine has not stopped working but I know other sites that did. Another reason I use VWS AND WD.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Jester on January 31, 2017, 07:40:54 AM
Looks like WU has screwed up again  :evil:  Mesonet AKA Local Weather Exchange is down again. Weather warnings and the IR map is still on the 25th of JAN.  :evil:  http://www.castletonweather.net/
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: orion98665 on February 03, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
Jester, just notice this myself!!! No Weather Exchange!! :evil:

http://www.bobsvp2wd.net

Looked at settings tab in VWS>Wunderground tab> Weather Exchange, and a hyper link states that Weather Exchange has been discontinued!!??? :roll: Anybody know anything about this??

Thanks,

Bob
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Jester on February 04, 2017, 07:18:43 AM
You know, we provide a valuable service to WU for free no less but if I want to see my data I have to put up with adds or pay for a no add service! The least they could do is keep the data flowing to our web sights to support our hobby. Weather exchange is down, 5 day forecast is down, weather warnings are down, my IR map links and local radar map links have not updated since the 25th of Jan, historical data is down. WU, if you are making a change to our feeds, at least give a heads up. I paid for VWS Internet edition to enjoy my hobby and I feel VWS is responsible to support and update it's software as needed or ambient should stop selling it. VWS, If you are not going to support it anymore just say so!
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: orion98665 on February 04, 2017, 11:22:07 AM
Jester, I couldn't agree more! I've noticed I have the exact same issues your having! If things don't get corrected hopefully soon, I'll go back to Weather Display. If the problem is due to ambient not supporting vws through updates, then I'll definitely write a poor review on ambients vws software worning others before they purchase.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: orion98665 on February 04, 2017, 11:38:04 AM
Jester, looks like your map links on your web site is working. All of mine are dead! Is the problem with WU or VWS?    http://www.bobsvp2wd.net
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Jester on February 04, 2017, 12:01:50 PM
Jester, looks like your map links on your web site is working. All of mine are dead! Is the problem with WU or VWS?    http://www.bobsvp2wd.net

Orion, Look at the time stamp on your IR map it still says 25JAN...Don't understand what the deal is with your links on the left side of your page are not linking if we are using the same template.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Cutty Sark Sailor on February 04, 2017, 12:03:46 PM
If the problem is due to ambient not supporting vws through updates, then I'll definitely write a poor review on ambients vws software worning others before they purchase.
Why don't you write a warning review about Wunderground?  I give KUDOs to ambient.. time for other developers to deprecate Wunderground... They're the one with the consistent issues, lousy customer service, and erratic and erroneous data scraping...
And, don't worry... if you're sending CWOP/Mesonet, WU will scrape it anyway, display you on their map sometimes, all you'll lose is a fab gold star and 'your own weather page'.. whoop whoop...
You can view and download your Meso data at such links as http://tinyurl.com/jaufrjv
View your station on the meso map e.g. http://tinyurl.com/h7j4toj
..and have "your own" weather page at NOAA / NWS eg http://tinyurl.com/z8wbxuk
... and obtain your own API if you desire:  https://synopticlabs.org/api/

...so, why Wunderground????
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: orion98665 on February 04, 2017, 01:26:09 PM
If the problem is due to ambient not supporting vws through updates, then I'll definitely write a poor review on ambients vws software worning others before they purchase.
Why don't you write a warning review about Wunderground?  I give KUDOs to ambient.. time for other developers to deprecate Wunderground... They're the one with the consistent issues, lousy customer service, and erratic and erroneous data scraping...
And, don't worry... if you're sending CWOP/Mesonet, WU will scrape it anyway, display you on their map sometimes, all you'll lose is a fab gold star and 'your own weather page'.. whoop whoop...
You can view and download your Meso data at such links as http://tinyurl.com/jaufrjv
View your station on the meso map e.g. http://tinyurl.com/h7j4toj
..and have "your own" weather page at NOAA / NWS eg http://tinyurl.com/z8wbxuk
... and obtain your own API if you desire:  https://synopticlabs.org/api/

...so, why Wunderground????

Cutty Sark Sailor, this is the kind of information that I needed. Absolutely, if my web site remains in its current status (broken links, etc) then I'll see if I get anywhere with WU. Understand, I just happen to notice the issues as of last Thursday with my web site and just not knowing what happened.   
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Jáchym on February 04, 2017, 02:14:10 PM
If the problem is due to ambient not supporting vws through updates, then I'll definitely write a poor review on ambients vws software worning others before they purchase.
Why don't you write a warning review about Wunderground?  I give KUDOs to ambient.. time for other developers to deprecate Wunderground... They're the one with the consistent issues, lousy customer service, and erratic and erroneous data scraping...
And, don't worry... if you're sending CWOP/Mesonet, WU will scrape it anyway, display you on their map sometimes, all you'll lose is a fab gold star and 'your own weather page'.. whoop whoop...
You can view and download your Meso data at such links as http://tinyurl.com/jaufrjv
View your station on the meso map e.g. http://tinyurl.com/h7j4toj
..and have "your own" weather page at NOAA / NWS eg http://tinyurl.com/z8wbxuk
... and obtain your own API if you desire:  https://synopticlabs.org/api/

...so, why Wunderground????

DITTO

I can only add one more point:
- developer's nightmare due to absolute inconsistency in the way they provide data, variable naming, units etc.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: orion98665 on February 04, 2017, 02:43:40 PM

OK, I really appreciate everybody's help knowing now the problem is with WU!! Time to make some changes!!
http://www.bobsvp2wd.net Almost all of my links to WU are dead!!
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: spatters on February 04, 2017, 03:37:45 PM
Just joining this discussion...   I'm having the same problem of my meso data is gone.  http://www.spatters.com/weather/

I see references in other posts in this thread about gathering data directly from other sites rather than from WU via VWS, but I'm clueless on how to do all that. Anyone have docs or tips on what a body is to do in order to populate the missing data on his site now that WU and VWS don't want to play nice any more?   ](*,) 

What other apps are there besides VWS that can be used to generate a weather site? I've been using VWS for over 10 years with the same general look and feel. I have wondered many times if there's a newer, fresher game in town. VWS has grown quite stale IMHO.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: foxtrot722 on February 04, 2017, 04:24:15 PM
I agree with spatters, about had enough, been using VWS for 12 years. Just spent way to long changing the radar and satellite map. if there is something else out there, sure would like to know what its it.

www.smoaksweather.com (http://www.smoaksweather.com)
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Cutty Sark Sailor on February 04, 2017, 06:32:33 PM
.... I have wondered many times if there's a newer, fresher game in town. VWS has grown quite stale IMHO.
...if there is something else out there, sure would like to know what its it.
You don't have to use the VWS website generator..
Several other ways... many of us use a website suite of scripts from SaratogaWx, (https://saratoga-weather.org/scripts.php) or Jachym's scripts: http://www.meteotemplate.com/web/index.php
See this board: http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?board=87.0
Additionaly there are other local platforms other than VWS: Weather Dsplay, Cumulus, etc.. but since you've already got VWS running, you can employ scripts similar to Ken's and Jachym's, simply uploading VWS data to them, and they'll replace the VWS pages you currently use....
You can see how that can work by clicking many of the signature banners throughout WcForum for the various types folks use.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: DaculaWeather on February 04, 2017, 07:09:18 PM
I use both VWS and Weather-Display and have for about 8 years. There are good and bad things about both pieces of software, but Brian is very responsive (Weather-Display) in helping with issues or fixes.

Right now me "Normal" Highs and lows are not working through VWS.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: orion98665 on February 04, 2017, 07:27:06 PM
I use both VWS and Weather-Display and have for about 8 years. There are good and bad things about both pieces of software, but Brian is very responsive (Weather-Display) in helping with issues or fixes.

Right now me "Normal" Highs and lows are not working through VWS.

Ditto!! Brian does an excellent job of supporting WD with updates, and free add ons to his software. Just wish it wasn't so glitchy!! #-o
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: orion98665 on February 04, 2017, 07:36:00 PM
Just joining this discussion...   I'm having the same problem of my meso data is gone.  http://www.spatters.com/weather/

I see references in other posts in this thread about gathering data directly from other sites rather than from WU via VWS, but I'm clueless on how to do all that. Anyone have docs or tips on what a body is to do in order to populate the missing data on his site now that WU and VWS don't want to play nice any more?   ](*,) 

What other apps are there besides VWS that can be used to generate a weather site? I've been using VWS for over 10 years with the same general look and feel. I have wondered many times if there's a newer, fresher game in town. VWS has grown quite stale IMHO.

Spatters, I see your web site is as broken as mine!! On positive side note , I guess I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with this problem. http://www.bobsvp2wd.net :roll:
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: foxtrot722 on February 05, 2017, 01:35:48 PM
Long journey, small steps, getting it fixed one step at a time

www.smoaksweather.com (http://www.smoaksweather.com)
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Jester on February 06, 2017, 09:21:39 AM
Jester, looks like your map links on your web site is working. All of mine are dead! Is the problem with WU or VWS?    http://www.bobsvp2wd.net

All my links are down today... http://www.castletonweather.net/  At least Rapid Fire is working...
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: ohlone on February 06, 2017, 11:19:08 AM
Wow same here,  amazed Rapid Fire now works,  Ill reactivate that on my site.  Sad to see that Wunderground support for legacy VWS owners is so flaky.  I have HW problems (bad Humidity sensor - getting replaced) and ongoing SW problems with WU.  Its a struggle to continue providing a Weather station service..
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: CW7221 on February 11, 2017, 11:06:40 AM
I'm still not getting mesonet data, so I've halted sending data to WU and posted this status on my WU station page:

"This station has stopped providing data to WU pending restoration of services consumed by stations using Ambient Weather's Virtual Weather Station. Data will be restored once services resumed. Station continues to post data to CWOP and other weather providers. See station website for links."

I'll continue feeding CWOP and others... if this means permanently shutting off my WU feed after 10 years, it will be unfortunate....

I hate the idea of having to research and pay for a new software, or have to retool my website templates to draw in data from other services I supply, but I guess I have to find the time...  I liked that I had things setup, configured the way I liked them, humming along for years...
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: Cutty Sark Sailor on February 11, 2017, 03:57:38 PM
...
I'll continue feeding CWOP and others... if this means permanently shutting off my WU feed after 10 years, it will be unfortunate....
...
WU will then scrape your data that CWOP Forwards to MESONET, display it on their map... you just won't have a WunderWeenie webpage or credit.
Title: Re: Mesonet
Post by: BrianLehan on June 14, 2017, 03:09:15 PM
Spatters - sorry so late to the party here on this post. You would need to edit your VWS index page template file (ends in HTX in the templates folder of c:\VWS.) and replace the dead Weather Underground links for current radar, current satellite and warnings. I also found a pretty good five day forecast graphic. I'll try to type a search and replace document for these elements.

I'm also experimenting with the Weather Underground API to pull data once a day at midnight and then integrate that data into the VWS datafile so the VWS pages and graphics generated by the software reference this imported data. This seems to be the almanac highs and lows average for date, historical highs and lows for date by year. The Moon phase and rise and set information, and maybe even the missing neighborhood weather station Mesonet data? If that works out well I'll post that process as well. Anyone can get a WU API license for free and the data needed only needs to be run once a day right after midnight.

I just migrated my station to a new webserver as it was, so should have some time to move forward on this side of the programming soon.

Brian
 
Just joining this discussion...   I'm having the same problem of my meso data is gone.  http://www.spatters.com/weather/

I see references in other posts in this thread about gathering data directly from other sites rather than from WU via VWS, but I'm clueless on how to do all that. Anyone have docs or tips on what a body is to do in order to populate the missing data on his site now that WU and VWS don't want to play nice any more?   ](*,) 

What other apps are there besides VWS that can be used to generate a weather site? I've been using VWS for over 10 years with the same general look and feel. I have wondered many times if there's a newer, fresher game in town. VWS has grown quite stale IMHO.