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Offline ndcube

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WS-2902 Data Collection
« on: March 05, 2018, 10:33:12 AM »
Hello, New to this forum.


I've been collecting data from my WS-2080 for about four years now.  I directly pull it from the memory of the display unit.  Well, it seems that the display unit stopped working recently.  I only get a valid data point each time I power cycle the display.

Anyway.  I decided to pick up a WS-2902 and an ObserverIP.  From what I've googled the best way to get the data is to have ObserverIP set to WS-1600-IP and point to a local server rather than Wunderground.  I have downloaded the 4.2.1 firmware so I can log into it and set this up w/o messing around with another router.

Does this seem to be the way to go for this station?  I haven't found a way to directly pull data from the console.

Thanks,

Offline galfert

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Re: WS-2902 Data Collection
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2018, 10:46:28 PM »
I did the same thing. Just got a WS-2902A and an ObserverIP. I don't have it working yet as I'm looking into a few mounting options and I haven't decided yet which way to go. From what I've read you can set up weeWx software and use the Interceptor driver to get data. You don't even need the ObserverIP to do this. But the ObserverIP has a few advantages, like updating to Wunderground more frequently and best of all the ObserverIP let's you connect a Meteobridge device to then connect your station to more online services. The Meteobridge also let's you connect to your own server SQL database or FTP. Lots more options with the Meteobridge via the ObserverIP. I think there might be even a way to connect the weather software called Weather Display. You can also set up custom weather websites via various templates using Meteobridge. I know nothing about the details of making all these things I mentioned work. I've just read enough to know it's possible given these components.

About the only thing that won't work with the WS-2902 is running Cumulus (or Cumulus MX). But that is only because nobody has built an extractor to pull weather data from the WS-2902 and output to easyweather.dat format.

I'm going to start off slow and just do the ObserverIP and the Meteobridge and then in a few months look into databases, web templates, and PC software. The first software will be weeWX and then Weather Display. Hopefully I'll be happy. But if things start to go wrong I might be forced into upgading to a Vantage Pro2+.

The WS-2902A has certainly become the most popular selling weather station on Amazon (according to their sales rank). So I'm almost certain that pretty soon (within a year) we will start to see more options to do more with this station. Not that it isn't already very capable.

PS - to anyone reading this and thinking of adding an ObserverIP to your WS-2902 you should know that you'll also need a WS-1000-BTH.
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Offline VinnyRI

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Re: WS-2902 Data Collection
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2018, 03:34:33 PM »
I did the same thing. Just got a WS-2902A and an ObserverIP. I don't have it working yet as I'm looking into a few mounting options and I haven't decided yet which way to go. From what I've read you can set up weeWx software and use the Interceptor driver to get data. You don't even need the ObserverIP to do this. But the ObserverIP has a few advantages, like updating to Wunderground more frequently and best of all the ObserverIP let's you connect a Meteobridge device to then connect your station to more online services. The Meteobridge also let's you connect to your own server SQL database or FTP. Lots more options with the Meteobridge via the ObserverIP. I think there might be even a way to connect the weather software called Weather Display. You can also set up custom weather websites via various templates using Meteobridge. I know nothing about the details of making all these things I mentioned work. I've just read enough to know it's possible given these components.

About the only thing that won't work with the WS-2902 is running Cumulus (or Cumulus MX). But that is only because nobody has built an extractor to pull weather data from the WS-2902 and output to easyweather.dat format.

I'm going to start off slow and just do the ObserverIP and the Meteobridge and then in a few months look into databases, web templates, and PC software. The first software will be weeWX and then Weather Display. Hopefully I'll be happy. But if things start to go wrong I might be forced into upgading to a Vantage Pro2+.

The WS-2902A has certainly become the most popular selling weather station on Amazon (according to their sales rank). So I'm almost certain that pretty soon (within a year) we will start to see more options to do more with this station. Not that it isn't already very capable.

PS - to anyone reading this and thinking of adding an ObserverIP to your WS-2902 you should know that you'll also need a WS-1000-BTH.

The product description for the 2902A says Monitor indoor and outdoor conditions, including wind speed, wind direction, rainfall, UV, solar radiation, barometric pressure, indoor temperature, indoor humidity, dew point, heat index, wind chill and more. Haven't confirmed that the A version does in fact monitor barometric pressure. I'm pretty much set on this station as I'm so done with Acurite. Davis is way to expensive to get set up online and not way more accurate enough to justify the much higher price. I already have a meteobridge set up and running. One thing I don't like about Ambient is if you didn't buy their version of meteobridge you have to pay a one time $150.00 fee to use ambientweather.net. That's not cool at all. Almost as bad as WU promising an android version of wunderstation and not following through.

Vinny

Offline galfert

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Re: WS-2902 Data Collection
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2018, 06:40:21 PM »
The A version and original both include barometric sensors.

The A version is the exact same hardware console running newly modified firmware to make it easier to set up for people with dual band (2.4 and 5 GHz) WiFi. It doesn't add support for 5 GHz but rather what it does is make the pairing/setup process different by it creating a MiFi network that is only used during configuration. And a WS-2902 can be converted into a WS-2902A if so desired. But if your WS-2902 is already configured there isn't much of a point.

Here is the instructions to convert to the A version.
https://ambientweather.net/help/how-do-i-convert-my-console-from-a-ws-2902-to-ws-2902a/

And you can use your Meteobridge just fine for all services except AmbientWeather.net and then just use the WS-2902A or the ObserverIP to sent to AmbientWeather.net. Frankly it would probably be a better option to have the ObserverIP do this regardless if your Meteobridge had the Ambient license or not as it would be more direct and is more powerful than the console.

I also disagree that it isn't it cool for Ambient require you purchase a license. The WeatherBridge which is a their version of the Meteobridge is quite expensive and covers this license. Running servers and cloud infrastructure cost money. Can you imagine the investment Ambient would have to make if everyone with a Meteobridge started using AmbientWeather.net for free? On the Internet when something is free then you are the product (with some exceptions like open source software, but even then donating is appreciated and makes a difference). If Ambient figures out the way to monetize the data that you are sending then maybe they can make it free. But if monetizing requires ads then how do you think people that buy an Ambient station would feel like if AmbientWeather.net started carrying ads?  Maybe the solution for them to consider is to show ads only to those using the unlicensed Meteobridge.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2018, 07:15:59 PM by galfert »