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Title: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Denpat on May 13, 2017, 09:43:06 AM
I upgraded my Oregon Scientific console from WMR100 to WMR200 and in doing so i lost my gold star. I am running Weather Display 10.37S19. The only changes that I had to make was to change the station from 100 to 200 and change the barometer offset in the software. I have been reporting to Weather Underground flawlessly now for 6 days and haven't got the gold star back  again. I am reporting to CWOP and the data is rock solid. I am just curious if anyone else has had an issue like this and what they did to correct it.

I know that the gold star doesn't mean that much, but it tells me that something isn't quite right with my station. My WMR100 station has had the gold start consistantly since it came out.

My station number is KCOFORTC80.

Thanks

Dennis
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on May 13, 2017, 12:08:10 PM
Needs to be 5 full consecutive days, you may have had a break in data sending without you knowing/realising
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: daman on May 13, 2017, 02:46:37 PM
You'll get it back.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: CW2274 on May 13, 2017, 03:00:59 PM
I know that the gold star doesn't mean that much, but it tells me that something isn't quite right with my station.
Dennis
BS. The only person who knows if your PWS is working properly is YOU. The "star doesn't mean that much", no, it means nothing.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on May 13, 2017, 03:46:16 PM
I know that the gold star doesn't mean that much, but it tells me that something isn't quite right with my station.
Dennis
BS. The only person who knows if your PWS is working properly is YOU. The "star doesn't mean that much", no, it means nothing.

That's not quite accurate, the star is a good indicator to let you know that your data has been received for at least 5 consecutive days,  if the star is lost, then it means there was a problem getting data to WU for whatever reason, it will be easy to figure out when but it will be tedious work, just need to go through the data table and check for gaps in the times.

When I lose the star I like to know why,  it's always because of me not sending data for a short time, I. E.
a few hours, and normally when I was out or away from the weather server so I miss the issue, it could be cause I updated WD and failed to notice that I have to click ok on the population to allow posting to WU, this one reason, or my PC lost connect to the network etc...
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Denpat on May 13, 2017, 03:51:12 PM
I will check when I get home this afternoon. I sincerely appreciate the replies. I will wait a couple more days and see what happens.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Jáchym on May 13, 2017, 03:51:24 PM
Not true, people here have reported getting the star day after registering the station to WU.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on May 13, 2017, 04:24:29 PM
It will depend on how the algorithm is setup, I don't know anything about it, only going on my experience over the last few months, I had a lot of outages due to my wifi dongle interfering with my Weatherlink USB, a few hours or more and I lost my gold star, I've only just got it back actually, uploading to wu was off today due to me download data from an old account in to WD, cause of that wd took it upon itself to use my old wu a
ID as my latest account ID, I failed to notice it for a while, at least an hour so let's see if I lose my star over the next few days, I'm hoping it wasn't long enough, only time will tell, but, what I have said above is true, 5 consecutive days and you get the star, but, it will depend on how the checking is done, you may have to wait 7 days if it does I every 7 days and you started at the beginning of the cycle...
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: CW2274 on May 13, 2017, 05:37:15 PM
I know that the gold star doesn't mean that much, but it tells me that something isn't quite right with my station.
Dennis
BS. The only person who knows if your PWS is working properly is YOU. The "star doesn't mean that much", no, it means nothing.

That's not quite accurate, the star is a good indicator to let you know that your data has been received for at least 5 consecutive days,
You go right on ahead believing that....
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Denpat on May 13, 2017, 06:08:32 PM
I just got home and I have the gold star back. I don't understand that much about it, but by my calculations it took 6 days for it to come back.

I want to thank everyone that took the time to reply to my post.

Dennis
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Jáchym on May 13, 2017, 06:21:44 PM
Lets be honest, the gold star is a one big (random) joke... to me it seems just like something to move attention from all the problems WU has. And if it was to be at least a little bit useful, it would be consistent and would have some documentation as to how it is assigned.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on May 14, 2017, 12:47:22 AM
I just got home and I have the gold star back. I don't understand that much about it, but by my calculations it took 6 days for it to come back.

I want to thank everyone that took the time to reply to my post.

Dennis

That just supports what i have said, glad ya got it back

I know that the gold star doesn't mean that much, but it tells me that something isn't quite right with my station.
Dennis
BS. The only person who knows if your PWS is working properly is YOU. The "star doesn't mean that much", no, it means nothing.
That's not quite accurate, the star is a good indicator to let you know that your data has been received for at least 5 consecutive days,
You go right on ahead believing that....

I can only go by my own experience and what it says on WU but,
as his star has now returned,  pretty much confirming what i had said above, my case on this one has now rested :)

Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: PaulMy on May 14, 2017, 09:36:27 AM
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my case on this one has now rested (http://www.wxforum.net/Smileys/default/icon_smile.gif)
And I rule in favour of the Plaintiff, with no damages awarded!

Enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on May 14, 2017, 09:59:23 AM
Not even a star????? :(
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: PaulMy on May 14, 2017, 11:27:47 AM
On appeal to Supreme Court in a 4 to 3 affirmative; "Gold Star" usage permitted!  The dissenting Judges' dissenting opinion: What is the value!

Enjoy and Share,
Paul
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 14, 2017, 02:44:15 PM
Do they still use the gold & silver stars for the kiddies, or it it too old school?   :-)
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: DoctorKnow on May 14, 2017, 03:05:00 PM
If you even re-boot things on your end, like the computer, or your console, the gold star will likely go away for a while. The gold star is just there I think to show consistency. It also may go off if you get booted from the Wundermap for a thermometer reading they feel is too high or low, like 4+/-F from your neighbors.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Cutty Sark Sailor on May 14, 2017, 03:16:31 PM
Not even a star????? :(
Wye Shore!
(http://ourspecial.net/msc/IamSmartstar.png)
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on May 16, 2017, 06:52:25 AM
I had a lot of outages due to my wifi dongle interfering with my Weatherlink USB, a few hours or more and I lost my gold star, I've only just got it back actually, uploading to wu was off today due to me download data from an old account in to WD, cause of that wd took it upon itself to use my old wu a
ID as my latest account ID, I failed to notice it for a while, at least an hour so let's see if I lose my star over the next few days,

Like i said above, i was right, i have lost my star now due to the above
again, this adds more proof to what i have been saying ;)

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=IWEETING2#history
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: A1cntrler on June 06, 2017, 09:36:55 PM
Needs to be 5 full consecutive days, you may have had a break in data sending without you knowing/realising

My brother's station was offline for a week while he was away on a trip.  Something in his network failed.  He had to order a new switch.  Total time WU reported him as offline was 10 days.  Within an hour of his network being back online he had his "Gold Star" back.  I'm not at all sure how they determine what is and isn't gold star material, but it sure isn't 5 days of consecutive data.... 
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: hankster on June 06, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
We've been trying to tell others that but they failed to listen. Maybe they will now.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on June 07, 2017, 12:38:34 AM
I am only going by 1, my experience, perhaps it different over here in the UK but i very much doubt it, my last boot
off took a good few days before i got it back, and 2, if ya hover over the star, it says the info there.

I have never been given a star for just a days worth of data let alone 1hr,
Perhaps it was because he had gone 10 days, therefore his star came back cause they felt blessed that he decided to return

I would be up for some realtime experimenting on this, around 12pm GMT today (7th June) i will stop data send to WU for 2 hours
I think that will be enough time off line, it will prob take a day or so before i lose the star, just depends when the checking is done
Then we will see how long it will take for it to come back :D

link again in case ya can be asked to look up...

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=IWEETING2#history

best set the alarm on my phone now to remind me to disconnect lol

PS i said 12pm so that you have a few hours to check that i have my star now....
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Jáchym on June 07, 2017, 06:32:28 AM
The bottomline is, this feature is absolutely inconsistent (just like everything else with WU - API etc.) and absolutely useless...
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on June 07, 2017, 07:01:24 AM
I have just turned it off, will put it back on at 2pm GMT. By rights i should lose my star
on the next update, at the latest tomorrow morning. then we shall see how long it takes before it comes back

I myself have no issues with WU other than it being a bit slow, such as wundermap
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Jáchym on June 07, 2017, 08:27:12 AM
Hi Bashy,
I would not be surprised if it took 5 days for you to get it back. Thats the whole point. It is absolutely inconsistent. Some get it after 1h, others after 5 days, some lose it after 10 minutes, others never... not to mention that the actually data accuracy is totally irrelevant to get the star...
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: waiukuweather on June 07, 2017, 02:17:24 PM
there does seem to be less problems reported with WU lately?
i.e they do seem to be more on their game again now?
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Jáchym on June 07, 2017, 05:27:49 PM
Or you could also say that they discontinued the probelmatic parts... but I still dont think there are less problems... just recently there were posts here about problems...
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: vreihen on June 07, 2017, 06:30:35 PM
Will the last person to leave WU please remember to turn off the server on your way out?????  :roll:
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on June 08, 2017, 01:31:49 AM
Well, i still have it, 3 hours is quite a long time, but, when i filled in their survey (anyone else?), i did say that it needs lengthening to
a full 24hrs of a loss of data, not just a few hours, not everyone is by their weather server when a fault occurs

WU has gone through a few changes over the last few years, im not so sure every change can be without incident, but then not everyone had many, if any issues. But, what company does not have issues, even the UK Met Office's WOW had, still has issues, after all, these are free services.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: eyecue on June 09, 2017, 07:04:37 PM
On another note, I can click on mine and turn it on and off!
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Cutty Sark Sailor on June 09, 2017, 09:35:10 PM
You know, this board has about 736 threads re: Weather Underground, and something over 7300 posts... and this is just ONE weather forum discussion website.... now, many of these, if not most, are regarding issues with WU...

I am 'infamous' for my "negative attitude" toward this now crappy webservice, but at one time, years ago, I was a big fan and supporter, and considered myself "cool" and "important", and ".having great credentials".... since I was a "Wunderground" affiliate.

I'd suggest some very deep research into http://www.theweathercompany.com/ as well as the recurring threads and posts on this website... for example, the 'dumping' without notice of NOAA Weather Radio Feeds, issues with webcams, bad data, etc....

Now the current fad is "My Gold Star".... what the hell... it means nothing... Sheesh.. the IBM acquisition of WU and this irrelevant "GOLD STAR" b.s. among other stuff should show anyone with any experience,  that WU/IBM simply does not give a d**m whether you post your product or not... they're going to scrape "quality data" anyway, and the h**l with PWS data, or your local station.... You want to be a part.. fine... but quit your bitchin'.... you've asked for it,... now sleep with it...

I stopped sending to WU years ago.,.. actually had to request a lawyer to send a letter to them to 'cease and desist" picking up my webcams and cancel my account.... there was not even a way to 'cancel' or 'remove' an account at the time... total BS and incredibly 'arrogant'.

If you believe you are of importance to WU... fine.  If You believe this gives you some kind of "Status" or "Credibility"  or "Quality data"... I've this bridge over a stream in eastern KY for sale... cheap. 

They are only interested in money, selling the service to others, advertising, etc... and frankly do not give a damn how much you've invested in time or dollars getting your 'stuff' to them....

Do some more reading on this forum.. Do some research.. .Just because your weather software offers 'upload to Weather Underground" doesn't mean it's necessary....

Do what you will... live with whatever mindset you've developed.... but uploading to WU, in my opinion, is a waste of your bandwidth, your time and energy, your dollars... and you will continue to be 'beset' with 'problems....

I have felt so strongly about this for several years that this is incorporated in my Signature...
(http://frankfortweather.us/WUF/WUF74x24.png)

And this is on my "About" webpage...http://frankfortweather.us/wxabout.php

remember... Do What Suits You... don't pay any attention to a fool like me... I'm just an "a*****e  probably as stated in the next reply to this thread... but your disappointments and frustrations are just beginning, and my humble opinion is that such folks as continue to consider Weather Underground as some type of "elite' "premier" web data, website service, are grossly misled.

And I personally don't care what replies follow questioning my 'integrity' or whatever... you continue things as you see fit... sit back and watch...   but it would be cool if all the 'complaints' and BS suddenly ceased, Just Watch!   They don't give a damn about you as an operator, or as a source! You opened an account, you agreed to send your data.. now live with it...


 




Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Jáchym on June 09, 2017, 09:57:11 PM
Well said...
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: CW2274 on June 09, 2017, 10:21:23 PM
 =D>
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bashy on June 10, 2017, 01:24:59 AM
"Quit ya bitchin'" 'eh? aint that what you are doing; re, ya post?

Actually, quite frankly, it is you sir that is doing the "bitchin'" your
post just makes you look like youve spat ya dummy out cause you
fell out with WU,

The guy asked about the loss of his star, far from "bitchin'" he even
when as far to say;

Quote
I know that the gold star doesn't mean that much, but it tells me that something isn't quite right with my station. My WMR100 station has had the gold start consistantly since it came out.

The guy came on asking a question and pretty much got slammed for
using WU. Folks cannot post anything about WU without the haters
swooping in.

If you dont like WU, thats fine, tell us all about it, but not, time and time and time
and time, wait how many was that, oh yeah, time and time and time.............

I have no issues with WU myself, i share my data so others can benefit from it
and by sharing my data, i believe i get no adverts? We all agreed for them to use
our data, its in their toc's.

For some the gold star means something, if someone wants to take meaning from
something, who are you to tell them otherwise, i mean, that sort of thing has been
going on for thousands of years, The ahem *cough* Bible.

I for 1 believe that the star is about consistency in data upload over a certain period,
if i want to believe that, thats my choice.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: weatherc on June 10, 2017, 07:20:27 AM
Well said Bashy  =D>
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: ocala on June 10, 2017, 07:30:31 AM
Not going to get into weather or not WU is a reputable service.
For myself I don't have a website so WU offers a platform to view my data.  They also have an app to also view my data. So for me I have no problem using their service. I get to view the site with no adds which is a huge plus for me.  I also like the fact I get an email if my station is not reporting. They also offer the Rapid Fire option to view live data. All this costs me nothing more then uploading my data. To me it's a fair trade off.
I send data to a lot of places. I have no issue with sharing it and they can use it for whatever purpose they like.
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Cutty Sark Sailor on June 10, 2017, 09:40:32 AM
Quote
remember... Do What Suits You... don't pay any attention to a fool like me... I'm just an "a*****e  probably as stated in the next reply to this thread...
:grin:
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Jáchym on June 10, 2017, 12:26:21 PM
 #-o
Title: Re: Lost gold star by upgrading
Post by: Bunty on June 15, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
You know, this board has about 736 threads re: Weather Underground, and something over 7300 posts... and this is just ONE weather forum discussion website.... now, many of these, if not most, are regarding issues with WU...

I am 'infamous' for my "negative attitude" toward this now crappy webservice, but at one time, years ago, I was a big fan and supporter, and considered myself "cool" and "important", and ".having great credentials".... since I was a "Wunderground" affiliate.

I'd suggest some very deep research into http://www.theweathercompany.com/ as well as the recurring threads and posts on this website... for example, the 'dumping' without notice of NOAA Weather Radio Feeds, issues with webcams, bad data, etc....

Now the current fad is "My Gold Star".... what the hell... it means nothing... Sheesh.. the IBM acquisition of WU and this irrelevant "GOLD STAR" b.s. among other stuff should show anyone with any experience,  that WU/IBM simply does not give a d**m whether you post your product or not... they're going to scrape "quality data" anyway, and the h**l with PWS data, or your local station.... You want to be a part.. fine... but quit your bitchin'.... you've asked for it,... now sleep with it...

I stopped sending to WU years ago.,.. actually had to request a lawyer to send a letter to them to 'cease and desist" picking up my webcams and cancel my account.... there was not even a way to 'cancel' or 'remove' an account at the time... total BS and incredibly 'arrogant'.

If you believe you are of importance to WU... fine.  If You believe this gives you some kind of "Status" or "Credibility"  or "Quality data"... I've this bridge over a stream in eastern KY for sale... cheap. 

They are only interested in money, selling the service to others, advertising, etc... and frankly do not give a damn how much you've invested in time or dollars getting your 'stuff' to them....

Do some more reading on this forum.. Do some research.. .Just because your weather software offers 'upload to Weather Underground" doesn't mean it's necessary....

Do what you will... live with whatever mindset you've developed.... but uploading to WU, in my opinion, is a waste of your bandwidth, your time and energy, your dollars... and you will continue to be 'beset' with 'problems....

I have felt so strongly about this for several years that this is incorporated in my Signature...
(http://frankfortweather.us/WUF/WUF74x24.png)

And this is on my "About" webpage...http://frankfortweather.us/wxabout.php

remember... Do What Suits You... don't pay any attention to a fool like me... I'm just an "a*****e  probably as stated in the next reply to this thread... but your disappointments and frustrations are just beginning, and my humble opinion is that such folks as continue to consider Weather Underground as some type of "elite' "premier" web data, website service, are grossly misled.

And I personally don't care what replies follow questioning my 'integrity' or whatever... you continue things as you see fit... sit back and watch...   but it would be cool if all the 'complaints' and BS suddenly ceased, Just Watch!   They don't give a damn about you as an operator, or as a source! You opened an account, you agreed to send your data.. now live with it...

I bet you could do an even better job of bashing AOL.  Just like WU, AOL still exists.