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Title: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 04, 2017, 04:02:26 PM
Have you seen this one yet? Looks like it will be similar to a Vantage Pro... in the image. It appears to have the anemometer built in on top with a radiation shield at an angle on the bottom of the rain gauge. Solar panels all around.

https://www.acurite.com/learn/pr/acurite-anncounces-acurite-atlas-family-of-environmental-monitoring-solutions (https://www.acurite.com/learn/pr/acurite-anncounces-acurite-atlas-family-of-environmental-monitoring-solutions)

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Atlas Elite
  • Advanced technology to track hyper-local weather conditions in real-time
    • Lightning detection, UV index/dose/intensity, rainfall, wind speed/direction, temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure
    • Professional-grade housing and instruments designed to optimize accuracy and precision
      • Separate wind anemometer and direction sensors with 30-feet of cable enable optimal placement
      • Powerful, solar-driven aspirating fan helps ensure reliable temperature readings, even when exposed to direct sunlight in extremely hot climates
      • Extra-large rain collector for superior accuracy
      • Robust design and high-grade components ensure durability
      • Replaceable components and battery banks designed for easy access
    • Tool-less installation and easy access to maintain critical components when necessary
    • Connects to the Internet via standard wireless network
    • Data shown on included digital display, and on mobile devices using My AcuRite platform
      • iPhone, iPad, Android phone and tablet, web browser [/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l][/l]
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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Jack Bowman on January 04, 2017, 04:55:53 PM
Looks like it is WiFI instead of using the SmartHub. Nice!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: CW2274 on January 04, 2017, 05:13:16 PM
Looks good. Also looks like they're going squarely at Davis's market, even visually. If that's the case, I smell a VP3 in the near future (or maybe not...) :roll:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: tandy1000 on January 04, 2017, 05:15:07 PM
I think there will still be a hub, based on 433mhz/915mhz:

https://prodcdn.acurite.com/media/documents/AcuRite-Sensor-Comparison-Chart.pdf (https://prodcdn.acurite.com/media/documents/AcuRite-Sensor-Comparison-Chart.pdf)

https://www.acurite.com/atlas-environmental-monitoring-solutions (https://www.acurite.com/atlas-environmental-monitoring-solutions)

Oooh, 24-hour FARS on the Elite. I just hope it will have some (official or not) way of getting the data locally.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: tandy1000 on January 04, 2017, 05:21:41 PM
Looks good. Also looks like they're going squarely at Davis's market, even visually. If that's the case, I smell a VP3 in the near future (or maybe not...) :roll:

Davis had FCC filings almost a year ago for an "EnviroMonitor" but I never found anything beyond that:

https://fccid.io/IR2 (https://fccid.io/IR2)

I'm all for Acurite beating them in this arena, I think Davis has been resting on their laurels for far too long.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: CW2274 on January 04, 2017, 05:27:47 PM
Looks good. Also looks like they're going squarely at Davis's market, even visually. If that's the case, I smell a VP3 in the near future (or maybe not...) :roll:

I'm all for Acurite beating them in this arena, I think Davis has been resting on their laurels for far too long.
Not gonna happen. I think Davis isn't going to take a back seat to anyone that doesn't have at least RM Young on the side of it. Especially if they start taking their business.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: daman on January 04, 2017, 05:47:08 PM
looks great but also expensive I bet!!!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: tandy1000 on January 04, 2017, 05:49:51 PM
Not gonna happen. I think Davis isn't going to take a back seat to anyone that doesn't have at least RM Young on the side of it. Especially if they start taking their business.

By "arena" I meant the consumer-level weather stations.. I don't think RM Young falls into that category! I think Davis is in the prosumer area, but are decidedly anti-consumer when it comes to their loggers (or blocking thereof).

I think Acurite has done well by introducing new sensors regularly and refreshing their platform. Any competition is good, looking forward to more details!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: CW2274 on January 04, 2017, 06:02:47 PM
Not gonna happen. I think Davis isn't going to take a back seat to anyone that doesn't have at least RM Young on the side of it. Especially if they start taking their business.

By "arena" I meant the consumer-level weather stations.. I don't think RM Young falls into that category!
Any competition is good
I understand. My point is that the natural progression from a VP2 would be RM Young, at least for me, but that's lotsa $.
Concur.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 04, 2017, 06:12:43 PM
I doubt this unit will be quite the price of a VP 2 or the Oregon version WMR300... It will have plenty of options though. It has the ability to have the anemometer extended off the main housing, and has the light sensor, with UV. What more could anyone want? This should help create more competition because this I have a feeling will be the one to get once we are able to order it. I have a feeling I will be trying it.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: vreihen on January 04, 2017, 07:54:12 PM
Do you think that Acu-Rite designed these in-house, or did they purchase them from two different manufacturers?  My feeling from looking at the pictures is that each unit came from a different manufacturer, and neither of them look like they were designed by Acu-Rite based on their past designs.....
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: drew on January 04, 2017, 08:01:54 PM
2 second wind and lightning updates on the Elite....nice! Will have to get one now just for that.


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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: waiukuweather on January 04, 2017, 08:56:08 PM
barometer only updated every 12 minutes?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Bushman on January 04, 2017, 10:24:59 PM
barometer only updated every 12 minutes?

I was wondering about that, too!  Davis is 1 minute.  Here, 12 minutes could be the total storm time as a front rolls over the lake.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: waiukuweather on January 04, 2017, 10:30:23 PM
its not like its a battery drain problem on the indoor unit if that can be connected to the power
that could be a shot stopper for some
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: tandy1000 on January 04, 2017, 10:43:45 PM
I'm questioning the document's accuracy of that 12 minute spec. Looking at the raw values from my 5N1 (I guess that would be the SmartHub's baro reading, technically)   - I can see value changes within the normal 18-second temperature interval.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Rhino on January 05, 2017, 01:16:28 AM
Hey folks, I regret that I have not been as active in this forum as I have been in the past- but as you can see- we have been listening to lots of users and we have been very busy!

These are indeed brand spanking new products from Acurite, and we are very excited about them. Our team is in Las Vegas this week to unveil these new products. Check out AcuRite.com and Stay tuned for more info later!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: waiukuweather on January 05, 2017, 01:47:17 AM
is there going to be like a REST API for programs to connect to? :)
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 05, 2017, 08:03:48 AM
A lot of enthusiasts have been wanting 24 hr FARS, and now they will have it. I also really like the solar panel for powering the sensors and the 2 second and 10 second wind update intervals, and the most favorable ability is the extension for the wind sensor, and placement away from the main housing!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Bushman on January 05, 2017, 09:53:27 AM
The critical factor here will be cost.  I'd say it will have to be 60% of a Davis to be successful.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: daman on January 05, 2017, 10:24:58 AM
The critical factor here will be cost.  I'd say it will have to be 60% of a Davis to be successful.
Hopefully they keep it affordable and not hundreds of dollars, I'd like one but im not spending big $ to get one I'll keep running what I got! 
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: sullyj on January 05, 2017, 10:56:35 AM
Ugh, of course my new 5in1 system arrives today. Son of a diddly.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: tbrasel on January 05, 2017, 10:59:37 AM
You folks wishing something for nothing have correctly titled the subject to this thread!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Adrian23 on January 05, 2017, 11:04:31 AM
Any pictures of this??
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: sullyj on January 05, 2017, 11:11:24 AM
Any pictures of this??

Post #4 in this thread has some links to the documents with photos.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Adrian23 on January 05, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
Yea just saw! Thx .. This look awesome but as others have stated it could be expensive. Certainly looks great. Hmm makes my current 5-1 look  :sad:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Jáchym on January 05, 2017, 11:27:52 AM
Nice, I would also be interested in how this will be able to communicate "with the outside world".
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 05, 2017, 11:42:13 AM
Yea just saw! Thx .. This look awesome but as others have stated it could be expensive. Certainly looks great. Hmm makes my current 5-1 look  :(
My 5 - 1 reads too warm in the sun, so it doesn't do me much good. They needed to come out with something accurate. I think many will flock to this if it is within 1 degree like specs say. My Oregon reads 49, along with my acurite tower while my all in one reads 53.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 05, 2017, 11:45:50 AM
You folks wishing something for nothing have correctly titled the subject to this thread!

Haha! I didn't even realize I had titled it that way. :D They do have 3 tiers to choose from if the Elite is too expensive. I want to try for the elite though.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Adrian23 on January 05, 2017, 12:23:32 PM
Yea just saw! Thx .. This look awesome but as others have stated it could be expensive. Certainly looks great. Hmm makes my current 5-1 look  :(
My 5 - 1 reads too warm in the sun, so it doesn't do me much good. They needed to come out with something accurate. I think many will flock to this if it is within 1 degree like specs say. My Oregon reads 49, along with my acurite tower while my all in one reads 53.

I can live with 2-3 degrees off no big deal. 5-1 location location I've actually relocated my current 5-1 away from roof and it's doing rather good only off 1-2 degrees. Frankly I think I'll be ok for now this new atlas more then likely will cost big bucks and I promised wifey no more spending for now on wx stations. Does your 5-1 have double solars? Mine does
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: CW2274 on January 05, 2017, 03:09:32 PM
Yea just saw! Thx .. This look awesome but as others have stated it could be expensive. Certainly looks great. Hmm makes my current 5-1 look  :(
They needed to come out with something accurate. I think many will flock to this if it is within 1 degree like specs say.
Just to be aware, this is assuredly the sensor spec alone, not taking into account the radiation-induced temp error of the shield itself, but it is an improvement.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: vreihen on January 05, 2017, 07:43:20 PM
The critical factor here will be cost.  I'd say it will have to be 60% of a Davis to be successful.

Other than covering the development costs, I'm guessing that these new units should only cost 10% to 20% more to manufacture compared with the existing 5-in-1.  I personally find it odd that they appear to have use different molds and designs for the wind cups/vane between the Atlas and Elite models, since using one standard/shared part between the two units should result in significant price/warehouse savings.

Their announcement contained plenty of vaporware when discussing the consoles and Internet connectivity, so it is difficult to put a price on the packages until we know.  Hopefully, they are shooting for $149 for the Atlas, and $199 for the Elite model.  The current
PWS/ProSumer market will probably bear $249 maximum for the Elite.....
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: nincehelser on January 05, 2017, 11:28:50 PM
Just checking in. It won't be vaporware.  They've been working on them with some customers for a while now.

I'm in the hospital following emergency spinal surgery, so you might not be hearing from me much until I'm back on my feet.
 
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: joe4702 on January 05, 2017, 11:50:27 PM
Just checking in. It won't be vaporware.  They've been working on them with some customers for a while now.

I'm in the hospital following emergency spinal surgery, so you might not be hearing from me much until I'm back on my feet.

Oh my. Get well soon.
Your knowledgeable and informative posts have been most helpful.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: CW2274 on January 06, 2017, 12:07:47 AM
I'm in the hospital following emergency spinal surgery, so you might not be hearing from me much until I'm back on my feet.
Wow. Forget us, just get well. :!:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: tandy1000 on January 06, 2017, 08:06:04 AM
Get welll, George!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: NachoQTPie on January 06, 2017, 08:16:35 AM
Ugh, of course my new 5in1 system arrives today. Son of a diddly.

I was just thinking the same thing... "Man.... I just bought one! Now I want a new one!"  :lol:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 06, 2017, 08:31:13 AM
Just checking in. It won't be vaporware.  They've been working on them with some customers for a while now.

I'm in the hospital following emergency spinal surgery, so you might not be hearing from me much until I'm back on my feet.
 

Thanks for checking in. Hurry up and get well.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: daman on January 06, 2017, 10:02:34 AM
Sorry to hear Get well soon George!!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Jack Bowman on January 06, 2017, 11:08:29 PM
Take care George!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: DGwx412 on January 07, 2017, 10:05:46 AM
This is really fascinating news from AcuRite.  I was just about to spend some $$$ on a new 5n1 since I haven't been comfortable spending $800 on the Davis that I really want (and am still saving for honestly)...but with this news I think I can hold off for a few more months to see what price point these new models come out at.  I am very interested in the features especially the Wi-Fi and lightning detection (which has its own history of accuracy issues with the various consumer level sensors I have been researching).  I also like the design look.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: haroldashe on January 07, 2017, 12:55:16 PM
I e-mailed AcuRite several days ago, asking for info about availability and price for the Elite but have heard nothing back.  Does anyone have a clue as to when we can actually buy one?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: waiukuweather on January 07, 2017, 01:22:53 PM
late spring is the current info
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: SufferinSuccotash on January 07, 2017, 01:46:46 PM
Just checking in. It won't be vaporware.  They've been working on them with some customers for a while now.

I'm in the hospital following emergency spinal surgery, so you might not be hearing from me much until I'm back on my feet.


Sorry to hear of your situation.


Wish you a speedy recovery.


Sylvester
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: DGwx412 on January 07, 2017, 03:12:16 PM
late spring is the current info

Yeah, if they are at CES in Vegas then late Spring would sound about right.  Or we can hope anyway!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 07, 2017, 03:33:42 PM
late spring is the current info

Yeah, if they are at CES in Vegas then late Spring would sound about right.  Or we can hope anyway!
Maybe I can find out something soon. If I do I will let everyone know as soon as I do. I am curious on $$ as well.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: tandy1000 on January 07, 2017, 11:23:01 PM
Latest FB video on Acurite's page indicates April/May. I would think we'll see FCC filings soon as well.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Mehdi on January 10, 2017, 01:13:31 AM
I'm in the hospital following emergency spinal surgery, so you might not be hearing from me much until I'm back on my feet.

Yikes! Get well soon, George!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Inverno on January 10, 2017, 06:26:59 AM
Just checking in. It won't be vaporware.  They've been working on them with some customers for a while now.

I'm in the hospital following emergency spinal surgery, so you might not be hearing from me much until I'm back on my feet.

Hope you're recovering quickly George, get well!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: haroldashe on January 10, 2017, 09:18:13 AM
George...get well quickly.  We all miss you!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: meadowsland on January 10, 2017, 02:20:14 PM
Availability in late spring. We will be announcing more details on pre-orders, pricing and availability in the coming weeks.  Thanks everyone
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: waiukuweather on January 10, 2017, 02:27:10 PM
Hi
will there be an API (e.g REST) available to get the data stream etc?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: thelanenest on January 10, 2017, 05:49:48 PM
New here.   Unless I missed it, is there any information about what the display will look like?  Hoping it's a variant of their HD display.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: tandy1000 on January 10, 2017, 05:54:32 PM
New here.   Unless I missed it, is there any information about what the display will look like?  Hoping it's a variant of their HD display.

If you go to their Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/acurite/ (https://www.facebook.com/acurite/) - see the January 6th post. There's a short video where Ryan has a quick peek. I think that's all we have for now..
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: meadowsland on January 10, 2017, 05:56:29 PM
It is a HD TFT display with WiFi built in (the display is the connection bridge)
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: tandy1000 on January 10, 2017, 05:58:41 PM
It is a HD TFT display with WiFi built in (the display is the connection bridge)

Any more hints as to if it's the *only* bridge? (meaning will there be a display-less SmartHUB as well?)  Add me to the list of those curious if there will be an API or non-cloud method of getting realtime data. Thanks, I can't wait to get my hands on the Elite!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: thelanenest on January 10, 2017, 06:15:03 PM
Thanks for the link to the video.  I hadn't seen that.   All looks good.   Display looks real nice too.   I was looking for a good quality weather station that has a nice looking color display that includes UV info as well as lightning with the ability to upload all to the Internet.   So as long as pricing is good, this looks like it might be the ticket.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: floodcaster on January 10, 2017, 06:23:55 PM
Looks interesting for sure. Hope the reception is better than the smart hub.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: Bushman on January 10, 2017, 07:27:06 PM
Maybe this will spur on the VP3?  :)
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: CW2274 on January 10, 2017, 07:32:16 PM
Maybe this will spur on the VP3?  :)
C'mon, see reply 2 and 5. ;)
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: WheatonRon on January 10, 2017, 10:32:31 PM
Looks good. Also looks like they're going squarely at Davis's market, even visually. If that's the case, I smell a VP3 in the near future (or maybe not...) :roll:

Davis' definition of "near future" is 10 years. That's so unfortunate as Davis was (is) the cream of the crop but somewhere along the way they have lost its vision. I appreciate that over the years Davis has tweaked rather than replaced its product line. For example, they introduced the SHT31 about a year ago and those that could afford or wanted to spend $50 or so could, same with bird spikes in the rain collector, and so forth. But, the VP2 is dated and owners know it! A new product, the VP3 is so long over due it is shameful. A color console, use of bluetooth, etc., etc.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 11, 2017, 10:24:45 AM
I've searched for a weather station running from the Acurite building in Lake Geneva WI to see if they had the new station online there to test but didn't find one. They used to have a station broadcasting on the Wunderground. It would be nice to see it in action if it was installed there.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Bushman on January 11, 2017, 10:32:52 AM
Looks good. Also looks like they're going squarely at Davis's market, even visually. If that's the case, I smell a VP3 in the near future (or maybe not...) :roll:

Davis' definition of "near future" is 10 years. That's so unfortunate as Davis was (is) the cream of the crop but somewhere along the way they have lost its vision. I appreciate that over the years Davis has tweaked rather than replaced its product line. For example, they introduced the SHT31 about a year ago and those that could afford or wanted to spend $50 or so could, same with bird spikes in the rain collector, and so forth. But, the VP2 is dated and owners know it! A new product, the VP3 is so long over due it is shameful. A color console, use of bluetooth, etc., etc.

But dang, their hardware is good.  I would probably use the HW only if I was building up a wx station.  Can't say the same for Acurite HW quality.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas Elitist Wx station
Post by: Rising Barometer on January 11, 2017, 09:55:27 PM
Just checking in. It won't be vaporware.  They've been working on them with some customers for a while now.

I'm in the hospital following emergency spinal surgery, so you might not be hearing from me much until I'm back on my feet.
 

Thanks for checking in. Hurry up and get well.

Get well George, you are a great help on the weather forums and thank you !



Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: haroldashe on January 14, 2017, 12:18:58 AM
For those interested, transmission range for the Elite is supposed to be much longer than for the 5in1.  Something like 1000' instead of 300'.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: Bushman on January 14, 2017, 01:06:16 AM
Well considering I barely get 30 feet now that should mean 100 for the new units?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: sundevil01010101 on January 14, 2017, 06:35:17 AM
Looks like my grandson may be inheriting a 5-in-1 soon.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: sundevil01010101 on January 15, 2017, 05:59:20 PM
Yes, he will still be more than pleased :)
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: Scalphunter on January 17, 2017, 10:45:42 PM
Only up grade I will be doing is to an Rainwise. Last Accurite station I bought  didn't even make it thru the winter and they said they didn't  honor  the warrenty as they released new  gear.  Guess you get what you pay for junk and they get the dollars. Hope  have good dredging season then get the new gear.

John
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: hdtvluvr on January 21, 2017, 04:06:37 PM
The guy on the Facebook video (see Jan 6th) said 1000 meters specs say 1000 feet.

I'd like to know a couple things about the Elite.
1. Is that 1 solar panel really enough?  The original 5 in 1 had 1 panel and then they went to 2.  Hard to tell the physical size. Video said 24 hr fan aspiration.  Does the solar panel charge a rechargeable battery?
2. What sort of batteries does this unit take?  Will it have a remote battery pack that can be installed away from the sensor?  That was discussed regarding the 5 in 1 but it never went to production that I know of.
3. Running on 915 Mhz means my current displays ( I have 3) will not work.  Will there be other displays available?

I was a tester for the original 5 in 1.  Sure would have liked to have been asked to test this unit.

Welcome back Rhino

Get well soon George!

Scalphunter:  How did you get the WU widget in your signature?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite WX Station (April 2017) HD Wifi Display
Post by: DoctorKnow on February 19, 2017, 11:56:17 AM
I am seeing an update now that it may be June before the station is available... I will update the title.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DC on February 20, 2017, 07:12:55 PM
I have been learning/testing on an Acurite Pro+ 5n1 stand-alone system.  I would like to make a decision before the Atlas ships and/or the bugs get worked out.  So with some time on an this trip home, I put together this comparison of the published Atlas stats to the 5n1, Ambient Weather WS-1001-WF, Davis Vue, and Davis Pro2 (see attachment).   Let me know if I missed anything.  My research has been primarily focused on the Acurite and Davis.   Nothing against AW, but I prefer the Acurite wind speed measurement and sensor design for my location.  At later date I will post benchmark results, review, etc. 

My guess is the Atlas 7/8 will be an upgrade in accuracy and quality from the 5n1.  The Atlas Elite will be an upgrade in accuracy in quality from the Atlas 7/8.  I wouldn’t expect these products to be totally bug free initially and some will have bad sensors from the box or within in a short period of time.  However, due to the experience with the Pro and Pro+, smart hub, My Acurite over time, I expect the Atlas products to be very good.   When looking at the accuracy specs two items stand out to me compared to Davis, wind speed and barometric pressure (although improved in the Atlas products still behind Davis).  What is your best guess on pricing?  My best guess is $225 for the Atlas 7, $300 for the Atlas 8, and $400 for the Atlas Elite.

My ratings  (simple scale of poor, fair, good, very good, excellent)for these three vendors which I put in the less than $1,000 all-in-one wireless category.   

   Davis Vantage Pro2   Excellent
   Davis Vantage Vue   Very Good
   Acurite Atlas Elite   Very Good
   Acurite Atlas 7/8   Good
   Acurite Pro+ 5n1   Fair
   AW  WS-1001-WIFI   Fair

I understand some do not consider the Davis Pro2 to in the all-in-one category with the detachable anemometer, but until the Pro2 offers a package of separate wind, temperature/humidity and rain/solar/UV sensors, it belongs in this category IMHO and in certain environments accuracy will suffer due to the all-in-one ISS.  Still the Pro2 is the category market leader.  However, to be ‘Elite’ maybe a poor choice of words given the Acurite new naming, to be ‘world class’ separate components installed in the appropriate different locations are required.

Having said all this I am not ripping Acurite or Davis.  They both have a place in the market.  Frankly, I have been impressed and happy with my testing of the Acurite Pro+ 5n1 system.  It is early but it just works,  In the first week it has measured temps from -2 to 54F and winds up to 31mph.  Is it super accurate, for temperature yes, everything else probably not.  However, the Acurite system has provided a very fair representation of the weather at a lake house, which is fun and cool! Also, it has proven to be very useful for all with the HD display at a glance form +30' away to get temperature and wind speed that is immediate and relevant!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: WheatonRon on February 20, 2017, 08:09:58 PM
Great comparison on the spreadsheet. A few observations. The VP2 (wireless) can be had for $428 at Scaled Instruments plus $117 for the software and datalogger plus shipping. I upload from WeatherLink to WU and CWOP every 5 minutes, not 15 per the spreadsheet. I think you should add whether the console display is in color or not and whether the console (datalogger) can communicate to the computer or however data is uploaded to WU et al via a cable or bluetooth or wifi. Not sure about the others, but Davis has a lot of upgrade features. For example, if you want to add a UV sensor or a fan in the ISS after buying a basic VP2, you can do that. Such upgradability would be useful in your analysis.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: nincehelser on February 20, 2017, 08:19:26 PM
Only the Acurite displays update the barometer at 12 minutes.

Stations using the SmartHUB update the baro once a minute.

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DC on February 20, 2017, 10:45:07 PM
Great comparison on the spreadsheet. A few observations. The VP2 (wireless) can be had for $428 at Scaled Instruments plus $117 for the software and datalogger plus shipping. I upload from WeatherLink to WU and CWOP every 5 minutes, not 15 per the spreadsheet. I think you should add whether the console display is in color or not and whether the console (datalogger) can communicate to the computer or however data is uploaded to WU et al via a cable or bluetooth or wifi. Not sure about the others, but Davis has a lot of upgrade features. For example, if you want to add a UV sensor or a fan in the ISS after buying a basic VP2, you can do that. Such upgradability would be useful in your analysis.

Thanks, every 5 minutes that is the first I have heard and is great news and I will update the ss.  Since you know WeatherLink well, is the one minute update to Davis apps correct or can it done faster?

Will add the color console.  I found the Davis communications very confusing, complex and as you state a lot of option but will take a stab at that section again.  Happy to send you ss if you want to take a run at it as you have a lot more experience and expertise that I do... although I feel like I am no longer a novice, maybe an advanced beginner :) LOL !
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DC on February 20, 2017, 10:45:25 PM
Great comparison on the spreadsheet. A few observations. The VP2 (wireless) can be had for $428 at Scaled Instruments plus $117 for the software and datalogger plus shipping. I upload from WeatherLink to WU and CWOP every 5 minutes, not 15 per the spreadsheet. I think you should add whether the console display is in color or not and whether the console (datalogger) can communicate to the computer or however data is uploaded to WU et al via a cable or bluetooth or wifi. Not sure about the others, but Davis has a lot of upgrade features. For example, if you want to add a UV sensor or a fan in the ISS after buying a basic VP2, you can do that. Such upgradability would be useful in your analysis.

Thanks, every 5 minutes that is the first I have heard and is great news and I will update the ss.  Since you know WeatherLink well, is the one minute update to Davis apps correct or can it done faster?

Will add the color console.  I found the Davis communications very confusing, complex and as you state a lot of options but will take a stab at that section again.  Happy to send you ss if you want to take a run at it as you have a lot more experience and expertise that I do... although I feel like I am no longer a novice, maybe an advanced beginner :) LOL !
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DC on February 20, 2017, 10:52:25 PM
Only the Acurite displays update the barometer at 12 minutes.

Stations using the SmartHUB update the baro once a minute.

Thank you, great to know, I will update the ss, any reason for the 12 minutes, seems like a long time, guessing processing power? 
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DC on February 20, 2017, 10:57:20 PM
Only the Acurite displays update the barometer at 12 minutes.

Stations using the SmartHUB update the baro once a minute.

No guesses on Atlas pricing or do you already know? 
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: nincehelser on February 21, 2017, 01:09:15 AM
Only the Acurite displays update the barometer at 12 minutes.

Stations using the SmartHUB update the baro once a minute.

No guesses on Atlas pricing or do you already know?

I've no comment on that.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on February 21, 2017, 10:43:42 AM
Only the Acurite displays update the barometer at 12 minutes.

Stations using the SmartHUB update the baro once a minute.

No guesses on Atlas pricing or do you already know?

I've no comment on that.
So that means you know, you just can't elaborate?

I think the prices above may be a bit high. The elite I think will run around $300, $325 tops. The other two between $150 and $225. My guess... lol
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: sundevil01010101 on February 25, 2017, 09:56:56 PM
I hope the Elite has a bird spike option for that rain collector....better if included. 

Looks pretty perchable (?) to me...


Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: GeekNJ on March 06, 2017, 08:13:09 AM
Looking to get back into having a personal weather station and the new models look interesting. I'll [not very] patiently wait until pricing and a release date are announced.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station ( April/June? 2017) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on April 05, 2017, 08:26:55 AM
The information on when the station will go for sale has been dribbling out... Now the latest rumble is that it will be deep into the summer. Spring is out of the possibilities. Hopefully they are making some tweaks to get things right before rushing to put these out. I think many would rather wait a few weeks, or so longer than have to do a return or find something not working like it was meant to. There are a lot of options built into these, and if just one goes wrong, it would appear that the whole unit could need to be returned to fix it?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on April 05, 2017, 02:06:12 PM
Which raises the age-old question: Which is better, the all-in-one integrated package, or the separate, individual components package?

It's the same problem with home stereo/Hi Fi gear.

In the quest for accurate sound or accurate weather data I don't think there's much debate regarding which is better, separate vs. integrated.

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: daman on April 05, 2017, 07:28:44 PM
Deep into the summer, they must be having some set backs.  :oops:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on April 10, 2017, 04:57:08 PM
Deep into the summer, they must be having some set backs.  :oops:

Not just "deep into Summer", but "the end of summer!" Ouch...
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on April 10, 2017, 06:35:19 PM
I was waiting for end-of-spring but with Elite turning into Vaporware I will be accepting delivery tomorrow (or Wed) of: 5-1 with pc-connect, hd display, lightning sensor and extra temp/humidity sensor.

Acurite should change their homepage which alleges that the Atlas is COMING SOON.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: alanb on April 10, 2017, 07:49:10 PM
I am still planning to wait and see what happens with the Atlas Elite. I think the only way I would buy the 5-1 is if Acurite offered a reasonable trade-in/refund when the Atlas series is ready to ship ... an unlikely scenario indeed. Short of that, I will either continue waiting or go with a different brand.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: haroldashe on April 12, 2017, 05:14:14 AM
 :?  I will wait...this thing is gonna be the "cat's PJ's"
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: vreihen on April 12, 2017, 06:11:43 AM
Deep into the summer, they must be having some set backs.  :oops:

For those who didn't live through the repeated schedule slips back in the early days for getting a bridge from the second production batch, let me offer this tip.  You have to take any promised delivery time from Acu-Rite and multiply it by Pi to get the *real* ship date.  I suspect that this has something to do with them running around in circles trying to complete the project, but in any case the Pi * promised_delivery_time math always works out.....
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: sinan0310 on April 16, 2017, 03:29:37 AM
Hello Sinan,
We plan to release the Atlas systems at the end of the summer.  Once the date gets closer we will have more information to provide.  Have a great day

I got this message from Acurite
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: alanb on April 16, 2017, 01:42:01 PM
End of summer release ... probably Sept. or Oct. ... then wait for some real-world user reviews and problem reports ... then wait to see if AcuRite provides some support/fixes ... it looks like it will be sometime next year before I decide whether or not to get the Atlas Elite.   :-)
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on April 16, 2017, 03:03:15 PM
This is why I ended up purchasing an 5N1. The prolonged wait from what Acurite originally estimated became just too frustrating. No reflection on the company though-- these kinds of delays are understandable in lieu of overseas production and the hope of avoiding  finicky hardware/ buggy software. Better that they take their time producing a kickass product that can compete on a par with Davis rather than rush to meet a deadline and end up with disgruntled customers.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on April 25, 2017, 09:36:08 PM
Seems the discussions have gone quiet. Our friend Nincehelser has been suspiciously "mum" on this topic... hmmmmmm
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: dport on April 25, 2017, 11:23:01 PM
I'm not holding my breath. Wouldn't doubt if this thing doesn't arrive until early winter at this point.  Perhaps just making the christmas shopping season. Was hoping this might replace my ambient WS-1400 (awful temp spikes in late afternoon when the sun is beating on the side of the radiation shield). I'll go with another option outside of Acurite though at this point.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on April 26, 2017, 07:41:07 AM
I think there may actually be stations already "on the air", but I can't prove it. I think the beta test is already occurring.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: alanb on April 26, 2017, 12:03:48 PM
If they want to keep interest up, AcuRite at least needs to keep some information trickling out. A price list would help ... user manual would be even better. Even a few screen shots might help keep some interest going among potential buyers.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on April 26, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
Also it would be great if they would let us know that the myacurite software will be upgraded and made more user configurable. (Every time I check the temp graph on myacurite I have to uncheck 4 parameters to get a clear temp graph. If I switch away and then back again, I have to do it again).

P.S. Any new Atlas myacurite software should also be available to legacy 5in1 users.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: vreihen on April 26, 2017, 07:53:34 PM
Our friend Nincehelser has been suspiciously "mum" on this topic... hmmmmmm

Didn't he take a break from the forum for health reasons several months back?  If so, best wishes for a speedy recovery.....
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: WheatonRon on May 22, 2017, 08:40:51 PM
I got intrigued with a $99 offer for an AcuRite Pro+5n1 today then remembered the concept of the Atlas Elite coming so I held off. I am so disgusted with the rainfall measurements being recorded by my two VP2s I am about to give up on Davis and try something else. Yes, the SHT31 is a remarkable temp-humidity sensor, but the rest of the station is dated and I am getting tired of buying new rain bases and buckets only to find their accuracy as bad as before. I am reluctant to hook up my Rainwise 111 rain gauge (as suggested by CW2274) to the VP2s as it adds clutter to my yard and my wife might institutionalize me for going off the reservation. That said, the Rainwise is very close to what I consider my most accurate gauge, that is, the CoCo 4" plastic (non-tipping bucket) gauge.

On paper, the forthcoming AcuRite elite gauge looks great, but from reading consumer reviews of current AcuRite equipment, I am skeptical AcuRite can deliver. In the meantime, I may continue to try, for the umpteen time, to calibrate the rain gauges once again! I can live with a black and white console, DOS looking Weatherlink software, a clunky way to connect the console to my computer, but wildly inaccurate rain measurements is clearly unacceptable! You would think Davis could correctly calibrate at least one of my two newly purchased rain base and bucket mechanisms but so far, no luck. Where is the competition when we need it!!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: CW2274 on May 22, 2017, 08:50:09 PM
I am reluctant to hook up my Rainwise 111 rain gauge (as suggested by CW2274) to the VP2s as it adds clutter to my yard and my wife might institutionalize me for going off the reservation. That said, the Rainwise is very close to what I consider my most accurate gauge, that is, the CoCo 4" plastic (non-tipping bucket) gauge.
Clutter? Granted, I have only seen small pics of your setup, but running a simple 4 wire phone line to only one ISS clutter?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: WheatonRon on May 22, 2017, 08:56:56 PM
I am reluctant to hook up my Rainwise 111 rain gauge (as suggested by CW2274) to the VP2s as it adds clutter to my yard and my wife might institutionalize me for going off the reservation. That said, the Rainwise is very close to what I consider my most accurate gauge, that is, the CoCo 4" plastic (non-tipping bucket) gauge.
Clutter? Granted, I have only seen small pics of your setup, but running a simple 4 wire phone line to only one ISS clutter?

Yes, I would have to mount it on a nearby fencepost, make sure it is level and not ugly (mounting board needs to match the color of my fence), and the Rainwise 111 tweaked (i.e., camouflaged) to appropriately blend in with our landscaping!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: CW2274 on May 22, 2017, 09:14:02 PM
I am reluctant to hook up my Rainwise 111 rain gauge (as suggested by CW2274) to the VP2s as it adds clutter to my yard and my wife might institutionalize me for going off the reservation. That said, the Rainwise is very close to what I consider my most accurate gauge, that is, the CoCo 4" plastic (non-tipping bucket) gauge.
Clutter? Granted, I have only seen small pics of your setup, but running a simple 4 wire phone line to only one ISS clutter?

Yes, I would have to mount it on a nearby fencepost, make sure it is level and not ugly (mounting board needs to match the color of my fence), and the Rainwise 111 tweaked to appropriately blend in with our landscaping!
harumph....
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: alanb on June 05, 2017, 03:50:44 PM
This is their latest prediction: "The expected release for the Atlas is late summer/early fall." ... posted on the Acurite forum by Acurite Tori, Official Rep six days ago (May 30). Previous prediction was simply "summer 2017", so I assume this means they have pushed it back.

Maybe it will be available by November for the holiday shopping season?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on June 05, 2017, 09:22:04 PM
I may not be able to wait it out... Patience is running thin.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on June 08, 2017, 12:49:15 PM
I agree, getting hard to wait.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on June 08, 2017, 04:57:31 PM
I should clarify. My 5 in 1's patience may not make it much longer, so a replacement for it is bound to be just around the corner. I had my battery light come on again a couple of days ago after a month ago replacing them. I want to wait for the atlas, but if my sensor doesn't make it, I will not be able to hold out. I enjoy the thing too much. That's what I meant when I said "may not be able".
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: CW2274 on June 08, 2017, 05:39:23 PM
That's what I meant when I said "may not be able".
I would go NUTS without my PWS. Seriously. I take it sooo for granted. #-o
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: hdtvluvr on June 14, 2017, 10:01:55 PM
Does the Atlas have displays?  Or is it readable only with tablets, PCs and phones?

I'd like to upgrade but would need to have 2 (maybe 3) displays.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: MrM1 on June 20, 2017, 11:33:08 AM
OK so I too am a hold out,  waiting for the release of these stations before I buy my second PWS.

Wondering ... the 8 and elite will have lightening detection I think.  How will WU handle this info on your PWS page ?   Or maybe they will not ... I do not see a place for lightening info in the current conditions section of PWS pages.    Would be nice for the lightening info to be posting to WU.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on June 20, 2017, 11:52:46 AM
I doubt WU will modify their setup for the release of a new Acurite model.

Since Acurite's previous software is anything but stellar I am hoping that there is new software accompanying the Atlas line that corrects and improves upon their previous interfaces and recording abilities. If that software was also backwards compatible with 5 in 1 systems then the company would be deserving major kudos from its base of users.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: OpusAndBill on July 01, 2017, 12:42:42 PM
Does the Atlas have displays?  Or is it readable only with tablets, PCs and phones?

I'd like to upgrade but would need to have 2 (maybe 3) displays.

The PDF promo on the Atlas Elite page two right column states there will be an "Atlas Elite Display" of some sort. Yep, not showing what it is, but that's what is posted on it. We will see.

And then on page 3 of same PDF (right column also) shows this specifically:

View your data at home using the Atlas™ digital
touch-screen display
, or from anywhere by using the
My AcuRite™ platform through any web browser or
mobile device.

https://prodcdn.acurite.com/media/documents/AcuRite-Atlas-Overview.pdf
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on July 01, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
I wonder if users will be sending data from the console to wifi instead of the smarthub? Maybe a console is not required but an option? From the latest Jennifer posted on their user community, it says acurite is making sure everything is going to be right with the hardware before they start selling. That is why things got pushed back apparently. I am excited, my 5in1 is slowly going down. I can't get humidity over 90 now in addition to the battery eating. Hoping I can get by a little longer before the transmitter quits.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: Bashy on July 01, 2017, 01:56:45 PM
Whats with the anemometer on the Elite? was it accidentally put on upside down just before the promo shoot?  :lol:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: waiukuweather on July 02, 2017, 12:05:45 AM
it not upside down
check out the flange rain cover's
if it was up the other way, they would collect water

they just wanted it to look different to the Davis one, otherwise might have been copyright issues?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: Bashy on July 02, 2017, 12:25:32 AM
good point, my eyes didnt see any further, , i wouldnt have minded one as a backup if they arnt too dear but
what i saw is what everyone else will see, it will be.... look, that idiots put it on upside down lol You cant put
it up next to a Davis in full view of the neighbours  :lol: :oops:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on July 24, 2017, 09:11:06 AM
Are we thinking a release date of fall 2017?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: alanb on July 24, 2017, 02:15:53 PM
Are we thinking a release date of fall 2017?
In their company forum Acurite has been pushed by several users for additional information about a release date, cost, product details, etc. They have remained non-committal on these requests and have received quite a bit of criticism from a couple of posters for their refusal to provide more information.  On release date, the most specific they have been is "late summer/early fall" and have said it will be available in 2017 (meaning it won't be delayed into next year). There has been some speculation (again in their forum) that they have run into technical problems with the new series, but no confirmation from the company that that is the case.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: thomas on July 24, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
I get emails all the time about big discounts on the current weather station.  I would think they would like their current inventories of the 5 in 1 greatly reduced before releasing the new product
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on September 07, 2017, 11:07:42 AM
Well fall is coming. Any new updates here?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on September 07, 2017, 11:19:50 AM
Well fall is coming. Any new updates here?

None. But Davis Corp. must be shaking in their boots.  :shock:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: Jáchym on September 07, 2017, 11:21:56 AM
Davis is planning their VP3 since 2008.... I think 5yrs ago they even announced it on their FB page. But it is always difficult to make a company do something when there is no real competitino
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: Glenn on September 07, 2017, 02:33:21 PM
Well fall is coming. Any new updates here?

Some pricing info was briefly posted on Amazon. Luckily, someone copied and pasted it before it was removed. You can see the details in this thread: https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32703.0

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on September 14, 2017, 06:53:22 PM
Has anyone gotten any further information? Summer is going to be over very soon... Any beta testing maybe yet?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: alanb on September 14, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
As i posted in their company forum, I am not even convinced they have a prototype yet, let alone any active beta testing. All we have seen is the photoshopped pictures on the one page flyer when they anounced the Atlas series. Acurite refuses to answer any questions that are asked about the status of the Atlas. Even if they are into beta testing and close to a release of the product, it is a poor way to launch a new product ... announced at CES in January to get everyone excited about it, then refused to give any further information for more than 9 months now.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: CW2274 on September 14, 2017, 07:46:52 PM
As i posted in their company forum, I am not even convinced they have a prototype yet, let alone any active beta testing. All we have seen is the photoshopped pictures on the one page flyer when they anounced the Atlas series. Acurite refuses to answer any questions that are asked about the status of the Atlas. Even if they are into beta testing and close to a release of the product, it is a poor way to launch a new product ... announced at CES in January to get everyone excited about it, then refused to give any further information for more than 9 months now.
Speaks volumes. Just me, but I'd certainly move along as I smell nothing but problems that you guys would be saddled with after (if ever) the release.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: benay ra'am on September 14, 2017, 09:02:34 PM
As i posted in their company forum, I am not even convinced they have a prototype yet, let alone any active beta testing. All we have seen is the photoshopped pictures on the one page flyer when they anounced the Atlas series. Acurite refuses to answer any questions that are asked about the status of the Atlas. Even if they are into beta testing and close to a release of the product, it is a poor way to launch a new product ... announced at CES in January to get everyone excited about it, then refused to give any further information for more than 9 months now.
Speaks volumes. Just me, but I'd certainly move along as I smell nothing but problems that you guys would be saddled with after (if ever) the release.

That's why I didn't wait and bought the Davis, glad I did and no looking back...............
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 15, 2017, 12:38:36 AM
As i posted in their company forum, I am not even convinced they have a prototype yet, let alone any active beta testing. All we have seen is the photoshopped pictures on the one page flyer when they anounced the Atlas series. Acurite refuses to answer any questions that are asked about the status of the Atlas. Even if they are into beta testing and close to a release of the product, it is a poor way to launch a new product ... announced at CES in January to get everyone excited about it, then refused to give any further information for more than 9 months now.

CES is a trade show.  It's not so much about getting the end consumer excited.  It's about building business relationships and getting products in the distribution channels.  It's a safe bet that information is being transferred behind closed doors with potential business partners.  End consumers likely won't hear much about such things unless someone generates a press release.

Acurite customer support reps aren't going to tell you much, if anything, than what has already been put forth in the spec sheets.

Testers aren't likely to say anything, either, unless they have permission to do so.

Beta testing is typically a short last stage of testing before a product release.  The bulk of testing occurs during the development stage, which can last years.

Release dates are, by nature, subject to change.  The CES press release said "later this year".  There's still time left for Acurite make that.  Take any other date tossed out with a grain of salt.  Unless you have a formal contractual agreement for a specific delivery date, you don't have much to squawk about.

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: vreihen on September 15, 2017, 06:24:44 AM
Testers aren't likely to say anything, either, unless they have permission to do so.

Gotta love being under NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement)!  I am testing a pre-release piece of weather hardware and a few weather smartphone apps right now, and have read all of the legalese fine-print that even prevents me from mentioning the vendors by name.  My point is that you should not expect to hear as much as a confirmation that someone has a test unit in the field due to NDA.  One of the agreements that I'm under even has a paragraph that prevents me from discussing my test results with other testers...if I were to somehow find out who they are!

Regarding Acu-Rite's product roadmap, my experiences with other product development cycles made me suspect that they would never be able to hit their promised summer release date all the way back to the day they announced the new line.  At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see them still working out retail sales deals at NEXT YEAR's CES show.

As a footnote, I've been nursing my primary station's failing/flaky 5-in-1 along for over a year now, hoping that the Atlas hardware would be released early.  I am in the process of throwing in the towel, since I saw leaves falling here yesterday and need to have a reliable/working primary station up on the mast before winter sets in.....
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: Bushman on September 15, 2017, 09:11:23 AM
Well, there is no mention of the Atlas line at the FCC's OET site.  And if you look there at things like the lightning detector and the lag from approval to market you get an idea of when you might see this device.  ;)  Atlas = VP3?  LOL
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on September 15, 2017, 02:51:21 PM
yep I would agree. I wonder if they are having problem with said unit?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: alanb on September 15, 2017, 03:21:51 PM
If the CES announcement was only meant for trade partners and not for consumers, Acurite should have never put the "Atlas Coming Soon" banner at the top of their home page. Having that with no additional details for nine months is at best poor marketing strategy, really more like dishonesty IMO.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on September 15, 2017, 03:54:42 PM
NWS has a similarly irksome banner on their website. I think it may have been there for as long as Acurite's--

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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: WetCoyote on September 19, 2017, 03:20:22 PM
Out of all the promo PDF's of it, I have yet to see what the HD display looks like, unless im looking in the wrong place.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: railrode1 on September 19, 2017, 04:43:42 PM
I just went ahead and bought a new sensor array for my Ambient station. I plan to replace bad sensors and rotate the arrays till the display dies. Maybe Acurite will have it sorted out by then. I'm not crazy about their current 5 in 1 units, as they don't show gusts and solar radiation. My main interest in the Atlas is the remote mounting of the anemometer.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on October 03, 2017, 05:06:57 PM
Looks like there Acutrite isn't giving any time lines yet. It sounds like its been delayed for some more time.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: benay ra'am on October 03, 2017, 06:41:06 PM
I bet the release date will be this Fall, October 32nd. :twisted:....................
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: Bushman on October 03, 2017, 11:21:27 PM
Isn't the 32nd the first day of fall in Brigadoon? :)
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: weather34 on October 04, 2017, 06:08:09 AM
I bet the release date will be this Fall, October 32nd. :twisted:....................
Would that be the invisible month of Octember?

Octember Eleventy First  Dunday 3017 28:00 utz

Eleventy first I recall from my youth reading lord of the rings the phrase “eleventy first “

 :grin:

Seems like this topic of a new release has been around for yonks perhaps the pa department is full of dotards residing in Nambia... :grin:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: benay ra'am on October 04, 2017, 06:09:41 AM
Isn't the 32nd the first day of fall in Brigadoon? :)

I thought it was El Dorado.............
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: vreihen on October 04, 2017, 06:45:37 PM
See also - vaporware.....  #-o
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Elite Station (Summer 2017?) HD Wifi FARS
Post by: azchrisf on October 12, 2017, 03:09:54 PM
I would have been interested in this, but went for a Davis Vantage Pro 2. Glad I did, can extend and customize to my hearts content.
It's sad they announced this, oh what, 9 months ago and it STILL isn't out on the street?

Tisk tisk...
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 29, 2018, 10:52:18 AM
I don't do facebook, so does anyone know what the plans are for the Elite? It has a Wifi display from what I understand, but are there still plans for it's release? On the Atlas line, I understand that a second round of testing has been done, but other than that, I don't know anything else. I am not too crazy about the access being tied down to just one website currently, but I also think a PC connect would solve that and wonder if any plans would be in the works for this? A lot of users like to see their data on their screens as it's happening, and be able to tweak the readings that way.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on January 29, 2018, 11:24:33 AM
By now it would seem obvious that "Atlas Elite" and "Vaporware" are synonymous terms.

(Please correct me if I am wrong).
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on January 29, 2018, 11:26:09 AM
By now it would seem obvious that "Atlas Elite" and "Vaporware" are synonymous terms.

(Please correct me if I am wrong).

You are wrong.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on January 29, 2018, 11:43:18 AM
By now it would seem obvious that "Atlas Elite" and "Vaporware" are synonymous terms.

(Please correct me if I am wrong).

You are wrong.

ETA?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on January 29, 2018, 11:49:33 AM
By now it would seem obvious that "Atlas Elite" and "Vaporware" are synonymous terms.

(Please correct me if I am wrong).

You are wrong.

ETA?

The same secrecy that was around the Atlas is around the Atlas Elite.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: vreihen on January 29, 2018, 08:59:34 PM
ETA?

Has Hades frozen over yet?????  :lol:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on January 29, 2018, 11:32:12 PM
By now it would seem obvious that "Atlas Elite" and "Vaporware" are synonymous terms.

(Please correct me if I am wrong).

You are wrong.

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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on January 29, 2018, 11:36:45 PM
By now it would seem obvious that "Atlas Elite" and "Vaporware" are synonymous terms.

(Please correct me if I am wrong).

You are wrong.

(Vaporware definition deleted)


Now you're wrong per your own definition.  :lol:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on January 30, 2018, 12:03:53 AM
Well, if the Atlas is available somewhere, I can't find it. Their web site still says "Coming Soon" ... same thing it has said for almost 13 months now.

I know you beta testers have something, but for the rest of us it is still vaporware, so I think that term is valid until there is a product we can purchase. I don't question that the Atlas might become a product someday. Since they refuse to tell us anything about price or expected availability, all we can do is speculate.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on January 30, 2018, 12:06:55 AM
Well, if the Atlas is available somewhere, I can't find it. Their web site still says "Coming Soon" ... same thing it has said for almost 13 months now.

I know you beta testers have something, but for the rest of us it is still vaporware, so I think that term is valid until there is a product we can purchase. I don't question that the Atlas might become a product someday. Since they refuse to tell us anything about price or expected availability, all we can do is speculate.

It's unfortunate your "speculation" is so far off the mark.  Just like your claims that everything was "photoshopped".

What I find is strange is how other weather station companies will take money on advance orders and still not deliver after as long as 18 months, yet there is nary a peep of complaint or bad-mouthing.

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on January 30, 2018, 12:26:40 AM
Coming sometime in 2020 ;). Amazon doesn't even have product pages for it.

Did they show it off again at ces this year ?

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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on January 30, 2018, 08:09:22 AM
Well, if the Atlas is available somewhere, I can't find it. Their web site still says "Coming Soon" ... same thing it has said for almost 13 months now.

I know you beta testers have something, but for the rest of us it is still vaporware, so I think that term is valid until there is a product we can purchase. I don't question that the Atlas might become a product someday. Since they refuse to tell us anything about price or expected availability, all we can do is speculate.

And that's just the Atlas 7/8, not the Elite. BIG DIFFERENCE!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on January 30, 2018, 08:15:25 AM

And that's just the Atlas 7/8, not the Elite. BIG DIFFERENCE!

It's just a staged deploy... concentrate on getting one model out, then the next.

No big deal unless they're holding on to your money or something.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 30, 2018, 09:34:51 AM
I haven't had one single problem with the hardware of the atlas. The only thing I had to do was pull down the anemometer as it had slipped up off the contacts during shipping. Once I pulled it down into position, it has been good. I do loose the signal on the display for some reason where I have it sitting, but if I move it, the issue goes away... I think one of my other stations interferes with the display. The access antenna doesn't miss a beat. 10 seconds or less it updates on Wunderground.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on April 30, 2018, 12:59:52 PM
any eta on this weather station yet?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on May 03, 2018, 12:34:37 PM
I did some research to update this. According to Acurite, they are still in the second round of testing... Keep checking back for more is the best advice I can offer. Apparently the original unit we tested had some flaws that needed to be addressed by sending the prototype back to the lab for reconfiguration.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: daman on May 03, 2018, 12:52:43 PM
Well that's good I guess hopefully they get the final product right
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on May 03, 2018, 01:01:08 PM
When asked about this in Acurite's company forum, they stated it will be available "late summer / early fall". That statement was made about this time in 2017. I guess they never confirmed which year they were talking about. :-) Maybe they will actually get it out early this summer so they can claim they exceeded their own estimate!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on May 03, 2018, 01:08:09 PM
Frist wave took a a year and a half of testing. 2nd wave will take 2 year should have a product by Summer of 2020.

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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: daman on May 03, 2018, 02:18:50 PM
When asked about this in Acurite's company forum, they stated it will be available "late summer / early fall". That statement was made about this time in 2017. I guess they never confirmed which year they were talking about. :-) Maybe they will actually get it out early this summer so they can claim they exceeded their own estimate!
right but since then they've ran into issues that need to be fixed so that date was thrown out the window long time ago
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on May 03, 2018, 03:04:31 PM
Acurite doesn't list the Atlas on their website anymore as "coming soon". Also, doing a search for "Atlas" on their website returns two hits: one for the Access and one for a mounting tripod but searching those two pages does not come up with any reference at "Atlas".

I clicked on "live chat" and got a response from Chris that he is reviewing my request for info on when the Atlas will be available..................................................

Chris: Right now we do not have a release date. We are going through the final stages of testing right now
Me: Thanks for the quick response!
Chris: Is there anything else I can help you with?
Should you have further questions, please feel free to contact us. You will be receiving an email survey regarding my assistance today. Thank you for choosing AcuRite. Have a great day!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on May 03, 2018, 03:40:03 PM
Acurite doesn't list the Atlas on their website anymore as "coming soon". Also, doing a search for "Atlas" on their website returns two hits: one for the Access and one for a mounting tripod but searching those two pages does not come up with any reference at "Atlas".
That is interesting. Hopefully they are working on the web site in preparation for the Atlas roll out, and this is not an indication that they are trying to quietly shelf the project and hope no one notices. I have never understood Acurite's strategy in the way they announced and promoted the Atlas early on, then dodged all inquiries and requests for information from interested customers. It seems self defeating to me, but there is apparently some marketing professional who thinks this is the right way to communicate about a new product.

I realize that if the Atlas ever hits the market, is reasonably priced and gets great reviews, we will all quickly forget the criticisms we have made about their announcement and communication strategy and gladly spend our money.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on May 03, 2018, 03:46:31 PM
When asked about this in Acurite's company forum, they stated it will be available "late summer / early fall". That statement was made about this time in 2017. I guess they never confirmed which year they were talking about. :-) Maybe they will actually get it out early this summer so they can claim they exceeded their own estimate!
right but since then they've ran into issues that need to be fixed so that date was thrown out the window long time ago

Some of the speculation here isn't exactly correct.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on May 03, 2018, 05:59:50 PM
This is from Acurite website, July 2017:

AcuRite Jennifer      
11801 Posts 535 Reply Likes

Hello All,
We do appreciate that you are excited about the Atlas system. We are as well. We
want to make sure we have a product that meets your expectations, and you are
happy with.  When we have more details we will be happy to let you know about
them. Our original release date was in the summer, we have moved that back to
summer/ fall of this year. The reason for this is we want to extensively test and
make sure the product is functioning as designed. We have learned a very valuable
lesson from the migration, and do not want to make the same mistake again. We know
that our customers do not want to have to go through this again as well. We do
appreciate your understanding in this matter. Please let us know if there is
anything further we can assist you with.

And this from Tori also July 2017:

AcuRite Tori
1368 Posts 50 Reply Likes

Hello Everyone,
It is our goal as a company to be open with our customers and keep them up to date as we move forward.
As soon as we have more information regarding the Atlas family of products we will be sure to update you.
In the meantime please feel free to sign up for email updates regarding the Atlas. Thank you.
https://www.acurite.com/atlas-environmental-monitoring-solutions?utm_source=acurite&utm_content=...


Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on May 03, 2018, 06:02:31 PM
That's not what I was talking about, but whatever...
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on May 03, 2018, 06:52:39 PM
George, I wasn't responding to your post; just adding to the general discussion of this thread regarding Atlas release dates.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: dport on May 07, 2018, 08:02:22 PM
Atlas is back up on amazon for $278 (with the lightening detector).  Listed as out of stock though.

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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: MrM1 on May 16, 2018, 10:38:25 AM
Are the 2020 dates mentioned here offering some kind of reality?  If so,  its time for me to find another weather station or another hobby.  I have been waiting on the release of the Atlas since Spring 2017.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on May 16, 2018, 11:32:14 AM
This is just a guess I made at their current rate. They showed the product off winter of 2017 with a promise of spring release date.

I bought off amazon when it was listed, but it has since been taken down again. I am sure my order will be canceled in 30 days.

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: BeaverMeadow on May 16, 2018, 01:22:35 PM
This is just a guess I made at their current rate. They showed the product off winter of 2017 with a promise of spring release date.

I bought off amazon when it was listed, but it has since been taken down again. I am sure my order will be canceled in 30 days.

Just a guess on my part, but I would think Acurite would precede the actual selling of the Atlas 7/8 with a good amount of hyperbolic fanfare.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on May 16, 2018, 01:32:49 PM
Acurite has removed the "Coming Soon" notice for the Atlas from their web site. There no longer seems to be any mention of the Atlas series on their site. The old links for the Atlas specifications still work if you have them, but I am not able to find the links on their site. Even in their "Community Forum", discussion of the Atlas series has tapered off to almost nothing.

I am not sure what all of this means ... maybe nothing.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on May 16, 2018, 01:44:17 PM
The second round of field testing should be finishing up if it hasn't already.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: dport on May 17, 2018, 03:44:51 PM
I've officially given up on waiting for the atlas.  I legit wanted to give it a shot.  Bought a VP2 from scaled instruments today though. 
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on May 17, 2018, 04:32:31 PM
I've officially given up on waiting for the atlas.  I legit wanted to give it a shot.  Bought a VP2 from scaled instruments today though.
Yeah I am thinking about doing the same.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: vreihen on May 17, 2018, 04:40:52 PM
I've officially given up on waiting for the atlas.  I legit wanted to give it a shot.  Bought a VP2 from scaled instruments today though.

At $278 if/when it ever ships combined with the headaches of trying to grab data locally from the Access, you made a wise decision to buy the known commodity (Davis VP2) that is shipping today with only a slightly higher price tag.  Granted, the Acu-Rite comes with solar, UV, and lightning sensors for the lower price, but as of today the Atlas 7/8 can't even measure a temperature since it is not available for order.....
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: vreihen on May 17, 2018, 04:53:29 PM
I've officially given up on waiting for the atlas.  I legit wanted to give it a shot.  Bought a VP2 from scaled instruments today though.
Yeah I am thinking about doing the same.

Been there, done that, have ZERO regrets.....

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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on May 17, 2018, 05:50:19 PM
I've officially given up on waiting for the atlas.  I legit wanted to give it a shot.  Bought a VP2 from scaled instruments today though.
I won't say I have given up, but I have lost interest somewhat. I have a neighbor only 2000' away who put up an Ambient 2902 in December. It seems to be working well so far, so maybe I don't "need" a weather station after all  ;). I was prepared to buy the Atlas 8 when it came out, but at this point I think I will just monitor my neighbor's station as long as it is reliably publishing to WU and wait to see if the Atlas Elite ever becomes a real product.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on May 17, 2018, 06:42:10 PM
vreihen,

I'm glad I am not alone on having 3 wx stations going in my yard!
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: vreihen on May 17, 2018, 07:10:23 PM
vreihen,

I'm glad I am not alone on having 3 wx stations going in my yard!

I actually have *four* PWS stations at the moment...plus the Stratus/CoCoRaHS manual gauge.  The biggest problem is trying to decide which one of the four is the most correct at any given time!

As I've said, weather stations multiply like rabbits in my back yard.....  :lol:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on May 30, 2018, 07:08:23 PM
Anyone have any updates? Acurite seems to have gone quiet, and I still haven't received my Atlas. I hope they haven't scrapped this idea... or something fell through.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on May 30, 2018, 07:31:01 PM
Yep I pre-ordered mine. I am guess spring of 2020 at the soonest.

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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on June 01, 2018, 03:46:38 PM
I got an email saying there was something new posted here... I don't see it, and  several of acurites support staff has been deleted on their forum. I could not log in to their site on Firefox, I had to use explorer.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on June 01, 2018, 04:11:41 PM
Yeah, there was a post have mine say QC check .
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on June 01, 2018, 04:18:20 PM
I imagine Ryan just had second thoughts about what he should post.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on June 01, 2018, 04:29:21 PM
I got an email saying there was something new posted here... I don't see it, and  several of acurites support staff has been deleted on their forum. I could not log in to their site on Firefox, I had to use explorer.

You probably have a bad cookie.

I see some name changes and older accounts removed, but nothing startling.

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on September 04, 2018, 11:34:34 AM
Acurite says "new information coming Real Soon."... I hope everyone will be cool and plan to order one of these. I am very impressed with what I have seen, especially the wind, rain, and thermo/hygro readings. I still hope they plan to send me a final product so I can share my comparisons with my WH2310 which I have been very happy with it's readings as well once calibrated to accuracy.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on September 04, 2018, 01:03:14 PM
Acurite says "new information coming Real Soon."... I hope everyone will be cool and plan to order one of these. I am very impressed with what I have seen, especially the wind, rain, and thermo/hygro readings. I still hope they plan to send me a final product so I can share my comparisons with my WH2310 which I have been very happy with it's readings as well once calibrated to accuracy.
I looked around on the Acurite web site and couldn't find that "new information coming Real Soon." reference. I must be looking in the wrong place. Considering their history on disseminating  information about the Atlas series, it is hard to not be cynical about anything they might tell us. That said, I do hope the Atlas product is "coming Real Soon" and wish them success.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on September 04, 2018, 01:16:17 PM
Acurite says "new information coming Real Soon."... I hope everyone will be cool and plan to order one of these. I am very impressed with what I have seen, especially the wind, rain, and thermo/hygro readings. I still hope they plan to send me a final product so I can share my comparisons with my WH2310 which I have been very happy with it's readings as well once calibrated to accuracy.
I looked around on the Acurite web site and couldn't find that "new information coming Real Soon." reference. I must be looking in the wrong place. Considering their history on disseminating  information about the Atlas series, it is hard to not be cynical about anything they might tell us. That said, I do hope the Atlas product is "coming Real Soon" and wish them success.

I was reading some facebook comments, and acurite responded to "Aaron". The post was Aug. 27 at 501 PM under "save 43% off this weather station."
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: dport on September 04, 2018, 09:27:18 PM
No interest at this point.  They've lost me.  Moved on to a VP2 with FARS.  I gave them a good chance though to get this released.  Hope this works out for folks that actually decide to make an Acurite purchase. 
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on September 08, 2018, 10:03:44 PM
Just out of curiosity ...
Does anyone still have any confidence that the Atlas will be available for the 2018 Christmas shopping season? They have about a month (at most) to make that deadline. Funny, I remember talking about this with disbelief for the 2017 Christmas season  :lol:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: WheatonRon on September 08, 2018, 10:31:19 PM
Just out of curiosity ...
Does anyone still have any confidence that the Atlas will be available for the 2018 Christmas shopping season? They have about a month (at most) to make that deadline. Funny, I remember talking about this with disbelief for the 2017 Christmas season  :lol:

Yes. The same level of confidence that it will snow at Chicago’s O’hare Airport on December 12, 2018.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: vreihen on September 09, 2018, 09:18:20 AM
Yes. The same level of confidence that it will snow at Chicago’s O’hare Airport on December 12, 2018.

Since hell will surely freeze over on the day that the Atlas finally ships, I'd say that snow at ORD in December would be a given.  Then again, the poles may shift before AcuRite ships it..... :lol:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on September 09, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
I believe they are gearing up for a big "yee haw" any day now...
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: Weatherdude24 on September 13, 2018, 03:27:52 PM
Atlas setup video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMfJJYB7fA
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: A1cntrler on September 13, 2018, 10:24:23 PM
Atlas setup video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMfJJYB7fA

It was up for about a grand total of 5 minutes.  I heard from a little birdie that has an inside guy that works on the website and media side that one video didn't get marked as private when uploading... 

What that means is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 13, 2018, 10:42:09 PM
For the short time it was up it got some decent view numbers.

44 views plus a few comments shortly after the link was posted here.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on September 13, 2018, 10:50:32 PM
For the short time it was up it got some decent view numbers.

44 views plus a few comments shortly after the link was posted here.
43, if you don't count me (watched it when I read the earlier post). I wonder how many of the 44 views were from wxforum members?  :lol:

In any case, it does indicate there is still interest in the Atlas product, in spite of all the false starts and lack of transparancy (or disinformation depending on your point of view) from Acurite.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: worachj on September 15, 2018, 09:29:32 AM
Something must be close with Altas being released. These Amazon links where dead, but are now working with updated information and new pictures. NO PRICES YET!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074XK4BSN/?coliid=IYMOKVOU6OIQ0&colid=MUG0SDO321YO&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074XK7GRQ/?coliid=IAG5RT904PQVA&colid=MUG0SDO321YO&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074XKB239/?coliid=I5K2SC1HCQXGH&colid=MUG0SDO321YO&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: MacGarage on September 15, 2018, 10:33:53 AM
Something must be close with Altas being released. These Amazon links where dead, but are now working with updated information and new pictures. NO PRICES YET!


Any guesses on the cost...maybe $250 give or take???
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 15, 2018, 10:35:42 AM
The anemometer extension is shown on the second link if you scroll down.

I think it's going to be nicely priced. 

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Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 15, 2018, 10:45:41 AM
Something must be close with Altas being released. These Amazon links where dead, but are now working with updated information and new pictures. NO PRICES YET!


Any guesses on the cost...maybe $250 give or take???

You're in the ball-park. 

I believe components will be available separately so you can build your own "kit", though I'm not sure how or if they can do that on Amazon.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: yankeesdood16 on September 16, 2018, 09:01:56 AM
Hopefully sometime this week we’ll have a release.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DadCooks on September 17, 2018, 05:27:42 PM
I just received an email from Amazon that said: "the AcuRite Atlas with Lightning Detection is now available."

When I follow the link the page says it is "Temporarily out of stock."

Maybe the vaporware will materialize.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 17, 2018, 05:33:10 PM
Don't pay too much attention to that listing.

It's not right.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: yankeesdood16 on September 17, 2018, 05:56:35 PM
Another good sign of a release being close.   
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: worachj on September 17, 2018, 06:19:53 PM
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074XKB239/?coliid=I5K2SC1HCQXGH&colid=MUG0SDO321YO&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

It gives a $274.21 price for the Atlas, Access, Monitor and lightning detection.

How close is this price point to what the actual price is going to be on the release date?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 17, 2018, 06:27:23 PM
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074XKB239/?coliid=I5K2SC1HCQXGH&colid=MUG0SDO321YO&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

It gives a $274.21 price for the Atlas, Access, Monitor and lightning detection.

How close is this price point to what the actual price is going to be on the release date?

The actual price point isn't known.   About $300 was stated in the CES18 video, but there was no indication of what all that covered.

Figuring the Access retails at about $140, that would put the rest of the kit at $134, and that doesn't seem right at all.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 17, 2018, 07:21:06 PM
Is it time?  I'm not sure, but...

https://www.acurite.com
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: yankeesdood16 on September 17, 2018, 07:35:58 PM
The atlas does exist
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DadCooks on September 18, 2018, 10:36:27 AM
Is it time?  I'm not sure, but...

https://www.acurite.com

So why has AcuRite not notified me, or any others, who signed up long ago for updates on the Atlas and Elite (still vaporware)?

I am on Acurite's mailing list and have registered products. Looks like they do not care for longtime customers.

It's nice to see some indication of life, but this rollout (if it is really happening) is a customer relations foobar.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: yankeesdood16 on September 18, 2018, 11:28:31 AM
It’s happening because I have one ordered and was just shipped, will be getting it on Thursday.   They just did a soft launch(only putting it on the site, no public announcement yet via Facebook and email.    I’m sure by the end of the week everyone will receive an email and there’ll be a FB announcement.     It is really a product though 😀
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 18, 2018, 11:59:20 AM
Right now they're just enjoying the buzz on the unofficial FaceBook groups.

Official announcements and emails are sure to come later this week.

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DadCooks on September 18, 2018, 05:59:18 PM
Right now they're just enjoying the buzz on the unofficial FaceBook groups.

Official announcements and emails are sure to come later this week.

Mr. Impatient/Short-Temper (yes, me) received his "official" email from AcuRite announcing the Atlas. I wish it had a discount incentive for early adopters.

Add: the announcement is on the AcuRite FaceBook page as of about 14:00 PDT.
https://www.facebook.com/acurite
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 19, 2018, 09:55:29 PM
Atlas setup video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMfJJYB7fA

It was up for about a grand total of 5 minutes.  I heard from a little birdie that has an inside guy that works on the website and media side that one video didn't get marked as private when uploading... 

What that means is anyone's guess.

That video is back up on youtube in case anyone is interested.  Here's the new link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsvpuCtCyUk

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsvpuCtCyUk[/youtube]

A few things they didn't note:

As you might expect, there's a bubble level up top for making sure your unit is level.

By default, the mounting knob should face due north.  If for some reason you want to point it in another direction, there's a button in the battery compartment you use to calibrate the sensor to your "north".  Obviously this is great for those in the southern hemisphere.  I'm not exactly sure why anyone else would want to be "off-north", but you can do it if you need to.

There's a red LED in the battery bay that blinks when it is transmitting.  (Something that would have been helpful on the 5n1 for diagnostics)  They've arranged it so you can see the LED through the battery cover via an optical guide.  Depending on how it's situated (it's on the "east" side on the bottom), you should be able to see it from a reasonable distance.  If the blinking bugs you (every 10 seconds) you might want to block it with a piece of black electrical tape.

In the battery bay there is a power jack so you can power the Atlas through an AC Adapter or a remote battery pack (both available now from Acurite).  If someone really wants 24-hour FARS, it seems a simple mod should be possible with the AC adapter.

The same mounting attachment that came with the 5n1 also comes with the Atlas.  If you're considering using an existing 5n1 mounting adapter, be aware that the Atlas "hangs" in the opposite direction of the 5n1.

Otherwise, it is really that easy to install.  The mounting knob setup really grips a round pole well.

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DadCooks on September 20, 2018, 10:40:04 AM
Thanks for the additional points @nincehelser, positive selling points I might add, they are helpful. I hope the quality of the components is up to the design.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: graculus on September 20, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
By default, the mounting knob should face due north.  If for some reason you want to point it in another direction, there's a button in the battery compartment you use to calibrate the sensor to your "north". 

Magnetic or real north?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 20, 2018, 10:59:11 AM
By default, the mounting knob should face due north.  If for some reason you want to point it in another direction, there's a button in the battery compartment you use to calibrate the sensor to your "north". 

Magnetic or real north?

Real (true) north.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: graculus on September 20, 2018, 12:24:49 PM
That's a neat trick, how does it work?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 20, 2018, 12:54:38 PM
That's a neat trick, how does it work?

Basically you press the calibration button the the LED will start to flash.

You then position the wind vane to point north, then press the calibration button again.

That's pretty much it.  "North" is then set.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: graculus on September 20, 2018, 01:25:58 PM
Oh,  I thought you meant that it sensed north and all you had to do was press the button  :oops:
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on September 20, 2018, 05:10:46 PM
Is there still some distinction between an Atlas 7 and Atlas 8 like was stated in the original product announcement? Or have they eliminated the 7/8 model designations with the al a carte ordering configuration?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: txbayou on September 21, 2018, 07:45:19 AM
Anyone know how much Atlas weighs?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on September 21, 2018, 08:47:58 AM
For the size, it is really light. Maybe 5 lbs. ? Once it is on a solid mast, it doesn't seem to be fighting the wind. I did take mine down for the hurricane, because I was afraid trees would destroy it.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: txbayou on September 21, 2018, 10:36:11 AM
For the size, it is really light. Maybe 5 lbs. ? Once it is on a solid mast, it doesn't seem to be fighting the wind. I did take mine down for the hurricane, because I was afraid trees would destroy it.

Should have mentioned I'm curious how the weight of Atlas compares to the weight of the 5/1. Should be quite a bit heftier, since previous discussions have described the Atlas as being beefier with higher quality materials and components than the 5/1.
FWIW Amazon states 7.5 lbs as "item weight" for all the various combo packs they are offering, this seems (even 5 lbs) a little too hefty for what I'm used to putting up on an unguyed pole.
Looks like Atlas still comes with that little mounting elbow, like the 5/1 has, in that case I can put it on a flat rail on top of a wooden fence and weight is not an issue.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: galfert on September 21, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
Is it too soon to talk about the Atlas Elite? While were here expecting deliveries of the Atlas I'm wondering if the Atlas Elite will also ship and if yes when?...and at what price? I know nobody can answer these questions as it seems Acurite kept a tight seal on information regarding the Atlas. But I was just hoping maybe because the Atlas was out that maybe they would give us some information on the Atlas Elite.

I really hope both the Atlas and especially the Atlas Elite kick some Davis butt. I'd like to see Davis finally do something before this decade is out as they have done nothing. Well I suppose they have updated their Weatherlink to version 2.0. Maybe that is in preparation to their new VP3 or whatever it will be called, but they need to hurry up already.

I'm not a fan of any particular company. I just like to see good competition and good customer choices.

The Atlas is nice but I just prefer the look of the Atlas Elite so much better...as it looks like a VP2 a bit in design. I just hope the price of the Atlas Elite isn't in the VP2 price range as that would be a mistake. Both Atlas and Atlas Elite have the same sensors...just faster refresh on the Elite it seems and configured for separate anemometer (regardless of the Atlas extension option). How much can that really add to the cost and be justifiable? I really really hope that the Atlas Elite is not cancelled. I just read some posts a while back where people were speculating that it may be cancelled and I didn't like reading it. Even though those were probably unsubstantiated claims, it just makes you wonder if that could happen.

Isn't it ironic how the Acurite Access is called "Access" but it gives you no direct access to the data and to run your own wx software. I'm sure I'm not the first to make that comment. This is the first thing Acurite needs to address and fix. And Davis if you are listening keep the VP3 data easily accessible and hurry up already, oh and fix the humidity sensor issue, or you are toast. Acurite may become the new gold standard, they certainly can win if they open up data access.

So Acurite....you are on a roll here, congratulations, now go for the gold and give us the customers what we want. We are throwing money at you. We are your best advocates. This is your chance. Meanwhile Davis is probably finally completing their VP3 plans and they are going to add directional lightning detection, and personal doppler radar, and earthquake detection, and outer space weather capabilities (you know because that will be important soon according to Elon). Okay so maybe I went a little far there...but Acurite don't think the race is over.

Well enough ranting.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: alanb on September 21, 2018, 01:22:43 PM
I doubt that Acurite will want to give us any information about the Elite while they are in the initial roll-out sales spike they will get with the Atlas. The last thing they would want to do is to encourage some of us to wait for the Elite.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: galfert on September 21, 2018, 01:54:39 PM
I doubt that Acurite will want to give us any information about the Elite while they are in the initial roll-out sales spike they will get with the Atlas. The last thing they would want to do is to encourage some of us to wait for the Elite.

Well my view is that Acurite is encouraging many to wait for the Elite regardless by not releasing it and not giving out more information (like price and release date). There are a lot of holdouts. Apple doesn't release the the new iPhone XR and suppress the release of the iPhone XS. They both come out at the same time. Either way they are upsetting their customers that bought or almost bought but decided to wait. Imagine the kick in the pants if you bought an Atlas and later discovered you could have had an Elite for only $150 more. Or what if you waited for the Elite and then later found out it was going to be 2x or 3x the price of the regular Atlas and then you kicked yourself for not having gotten the Atlas when it came out instead of waiting because the Elite maybe isn't worth the price difference to you. I understand being tight lipped before a product announcement...but at some point they need to be forthcoming with information and the cat is more than half way out of the box. I want to like Acurite but between these decisions and removing their customer forum, and eliminating customer support options, not selling globally, making the Access not really stand for "access," they sure are making it difficult to like them. I'm new to this hobby, and I decided to invest in an inexpensive Ambient station because as much as I thought I wanted a VP2 and could afford a VP2, that purchase just didn't feel right at the time (too bad I didn't get into this a years back or I'd be sporting a VP2). So my Ambient is like a nice starter system and I'll gladly replace it when the next best thing comes along. I'm not going to buy an Atlas at this point in time not knowing what the price is on an Elite.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: Bushman on September 21, 2018, 04:52:17 PM
It's aliek a hobo watching a freight train - every car looks better than the last one but the train is picking up speed.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: KC5JIM on September 21, 2018, 05:43:26 PM
I think if AcuRite had a system like Davis where you could buy a USB data logger then do with your data as YOU WANT, the Atlas could really give Davis a run for their money. For my uses, I would NEVER buy an Atlas because AcuRite has taken very specific measures to control MY DATA.

I am NOT a casual consumer, I want FULL CONTROL of my data, and AcuRite has decide that I should not have that ability with their stations.

The BS ideas of waiting to see IF someone can decode their data stream then use an SDR to receive the data is just that, BS. It's also BS to say "Well, AcuRite COULD provide access to other places through AcuRite IF THEY DECIDE TO" - I don't WANT my data ANYWHERE BUT ON MY SITE. I quit feeding WU and CWOP (Because CWOP provided MY DATA to WU) when WU announced their INSANE $850 PER MONTH API fee for the "Data Core package.

I'm an electromechanical engineer with two PhD's, AcuRite could have included a USB port for access to MY DATA for less than $1.00 per unit. I guarantee you in the future AcuRite will do away with displays entirely and FORCE people to PAY for accessing their data. I'm sure they got the idea from WeatherUnderground - convince millions of people to provide THEM with FREE DATA, then charge hundreds of dollars a month to access it. The amateurish, boorish concept of scraping the WU data will no longer be an option very, very soon.

My AcuRite? HA! AcuRite already tipped their hat that they are planning to CHARGE for My AcuRite access.

Don't get me wrong, I WANT SOMEONE to put the screws to Davis, but AcuRite, thus far, will not be that company. I would happily pay $99.99 for the AcuRite Access unit IF it gave ME FULL CONTROL OF MY DATA.


Is it too soon to talk about the Atlas Elite? While were here expecting deliveries of the Atlas I'm wondering if the Atlas Elite will also ship and if yes when?...and at what price? I know nobody can answer these questions as it seems Acurite kept a tight seal on information regarding the Atlas. But I was just hoping maybe because the Atlas was out that maybe they would give us some information on the Atlas Elite.

I really hope both the Atlas and especially the Atlas Elite kick some Davis butt. I'd like to see Davis finally do something before this decade is out as they have done nothing. Well I suppose they have updated their Weatherlink to version 2.0. Maybe that is in preparation to their new VP3 or whatever it will be called, but they need to hurry up already.

I'm not a fan of any particular company. I just like to see good competition and good customer choices.

The Atlas is nice but I just prefer the look of the Atlas Elite so much better...as it looks like a VP2 a bit in design. I just hope the price of the Atlas Elite isn't in the VP2 price range as that would be a mistake. Both Atlas and Atlas Elite have the same sensors...just faster refresh on the Elite it seems and configured for separate anemometer (regardless of the Atlas extension option). How much can that really add to the cost and be justifiable? I really really hope that the Atlas Elite is not cancelled. I just read some posts a while back where people were speculating that it may be cancelled and I didn't like reading it. Even though those were probably unsubstantiated claims, it just makes you wonder if that could happen.

Isn't it ironic how the Acurite Access is called "Access" but it gives you no direct access to the data and to run your own wx software. I'm sure I'm not the first to make that comment. This is the first thing Acurite needs to address and fix. And Davis if you are listening keep the VP3 data easily accessible and hurry up already, oh and fix the humidity sensor issue, or you are toast. Acurite may become the new gold standard, they certainly can win if they open up data access.

So Acurite....you are on a roll here, congratulations, now go for the gold and give us the customers what we want. We are throwing money at you. We are your best advocates. This is your chance. Meanwhile Davis is probably finally completing their VP3 plans and they are going to add directional lightning detection, and personal doppler radar, and earthquake detection, and outer space weather capabilities (you know because that will be important soon according to Elon). Okay so maybe I went a little far there...but Acurite don't think the race is over.

Well enough ranting.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 21, 2018, 05:57:35 PM
The BS ideas of waiting to see IF someone can decode their data stream then use an SDR to receive the data is just that, BS.

It's not that difficult.  It's not encrypted data.

The project already decodes around 100 device protocols.  They aren't going to be stumped by the Atlas.



Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on September 28, 2018, 12:20:38 PM
Well I received mine the other day from amazon.com finally.

The lumens isn't being reported to weather underground. Are you guys also having this problem as well?

Wished the HD-Screen would tilt.

KSDSIOUX16

Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on September 28, 2018, 01:05:30 PM
UV and light is not being reported from mine either, and never has reported.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 28, 2018, 01:08:35 PM
UV and light intensity data don't report properly to wunderground yet.

The Access is going to need a firmware update first.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on September 28, 2018, 03:46:10 PM
UV does, but not lumens.

Is this on Acurites road map?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on September 28, 2018, 03:48:37 PM
UV is what Wunderground says it is. It is not coming from the Atlas Access.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on September 28, 2018, 04:16:21 PM
UV does, but not lumens.

Is this on Acurites road map?

UV is being shown from another source.

When the issue is corrected, UV will show as a graph on wunderground.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: seamonkeys1 on September 28, 2018, 05:32:54 PM
yep you are both correct. I see another weather station near me is reporting UV and Solar.

Did Acurite give you an ETA for the firmware update?
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: WXman on November 02, 2018, 09:37:11 AM
Yesterday, Acurite sent me a message that said they are still revising the Elite station and incorporating things they are learning from the other Atlas models, and that it hopefully will be available soon.

"Soon" can mean a lot of different things.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: DoctorKnow on November 02, 2018, 09:50:41 AM
Thanks for the update... I will update the topic label.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: galfert on November 02, 2018, 10:22:04 AM
Here is my wish list of improvements for the Atlas Elite:


* Top of the list is more important than bottom of the list.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: BeaverMeadow on November 02, 2018, 10:42:03 AM
Galfert, Chaney owes you a big thank you for your suggested list of items to improve the Elite. These improvements are sorely needed to elevate the consumer/hobbyist quality of their current line to a level that is more competitive with Davis and more in tune with what serious purchasers require.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: davefr on November 02, 2018, 12:04:49 PM
Will Elite have WiFi integrated into the console?

The WS-2000 has me spoiled. No separate hub to have to locate, provide power to and hardwire to a router.  It can also pull data direct from the internet. (ex: NIST time) and provide direct configuration data to set up weather sites.  A smart console that can communicate wirelessly to the internet is really the way to go IMHO.







Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: galfert on November 02, 2018, 01:19:36 PM
Will Elite have WiFi integrated into the console?

The WS-2000 has me spoiled. No separate hub to have to locate, provide power to and hardwire to a router.  It can also pull data direct from the internet. (ex: NIST time) and provide direct configuration data to set up weather sites.  A smart console that can communicate wirelessly to the internet is really the way to go IMHO.

Yes WiFi console, according to Amazon listing for the Elite. It was further discussed in this other thread and a few posts past:
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=35394.msg362763#msg362763
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: galfert on November 02, 2018, 01:54:05 PM
Galfert, Chaney owes you a big thank you for your suggested list of items to improve the Elite. These improvements are sorely needed to elevate the consumer/hobbyist quality of their current line to a level that is more competitive with Davis and more in tune with what serious purchasers require.

Thank you that is my goal, to wake up Davis back to this decade. If any one of the big companies wants to hire me as a consultant or product development manager I would do it. I guess then I'd have to stop talking bad about them, as right now I talk bad about all of them. Well I'm not really talking bad, just being honest on the issues.

I do hope that the Atlas Elite is a big success. The outdoor sensor array has a great design, unlike the Atlas 7/8 that to me looks like a limp you know what (a limp handshake is what I was thinking, yeah that's it. What were you thinking?). But I accept that others may love the Atlas 7/8 design, and Chaney did well targeting would be buyers of the Davis Vue in pricing and features. The Atlas Elite though has a lot of potential if Chaney did the things I proposed. They could then shoot for just under Davis VP2 pricing (almost). They would need to expand their sales reach beyond consumer / hobbyists and land some enterprise and government contracts.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: DoctorKnow on November 02, 2018, 03:27:01 PM
I am still waiting for my Atlas... I am glad I didn't get it before the issue of the noise interference was worked out... It was an easy guess for me that the issue was coming from the motor or it's components. I'm glad the wiring issue is an easy repair for Acurite. I don't need any greater accuracy than the Atlas offers as far as temperature and humidity go, or rainfall. I would enjoy getting rapid wind readings... I live where the wind is a big deal these days.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: MrM1 on November 03, 2018, 09:19:36 AM
Good Doctor,
Do you plan on scrapping your uploads to WeatherCloud,  or how do you plan to get the Atlas Data to that site?     Or are you keeping you current weather station and adding an Atlas too?

I am still lacking lightning which is really what I was waiting on since the Atlas was first announced.  My plan had always been to get the Atlas 8.  But Now that I see it is not easy task to get data up to more than 2 locations,  I am glad I went with the other guys offering.

galfert,
Did I read a discussion here on the board somewhere that AcuRite is considering charging a fee for My Acurite in the future?  I think that might be another suggesting for them NOT to do.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: galfert on November 03, 2018, 09:38:11 AM
galfert,
Did I read a discussion here on the board somewhere that AcuRite is considering charging a fee for My Acurite in the future?  I think that might be another suggesting for them NOT to do.

Noted, and updated. Thanks!
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: nincehelser on November 03, 2018, 09:42:52 AM
Did I read a discussion here on the board somewhere that AcuRite is considering charging a fee for My Acurite in the future?  I think that might be another suggesting for them NOT to do.

Davis offers subscription-based services.  Why shouldn't Acurite be allowed to charge for advanced services, too?
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: MrM1 on November 03, 2018, 09:55:01 AM
Not saying they shouldn't if that is their business model,   I am just coming at it from an AmbientWeather.net point of view.   I almost pulled the trigger on the fixed lightning issue Atlas early this week,  before I realized the data captive nature of Acurite.  For that reason alone I am glad I did not and instead went with a WS-2000.

I am watching what happens with the next Atlas model release.  It is still on my wish list.  But look at my local weather sticker link,  I threw that page together at midnight last night using the "share" code feature from Ambientweather.net and other sources.   I really would not like to loose this ability.  Would not mind a different layout,  but can I grab code from MyAcurite to embed on my webpage as I did from AmbientWeather.net?

(Note: the Title "Interlachen's Most Accurate Weather" is a gag for a few friends of mine that named my station that back 2 years ago.  The page is not linked from any of my web sites,  and is only linked from here in my sig - so it has a very limited audience and is essentially not public - for private consumption only)
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: DoctorKnow on November 03, 2018, 10:58:18 AM
Did I read a discussion here on the board somewhere that AcuRite is considering charging a fee for My Acurite in the future?  I think that might be another suggesting for them NOT to do.

Davis offers subscription-based services.  Why shouldn't Acurite be allowed to charge for advanced services, too?

I'm thinking this is what they could be planning, with the data being harder to capture from their Access. I don't see anything wrong with this idea, and I think a lot of users will jump on it when it starts... depending on what sites they let you share with, and the price.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: galfert on November 03, 2018, 11:52:04 AM
Well I disagree. It's my own data. I don't think I should have to pay for my own data. Limiting the Access to then charge you for getting at your own data is not good business. Sure there could be added benefits they throw in like forecasting or maps or graphs or whatever else along with your data that they do, but those are things you could do yourself if you could easily have at your data directly from within your own network using hardware that you've already paid for.

I'm not disagreeing that a company should be able to create added services and then charge you for it. The problem comes when they purposefully do what they can to limit and force people to have to pay. But in the end it is true that the company can do whatever it wants. Their lack of vision only creates opportunities for other companies. People vote with their wallets. I'm very excited about the Atlas Elite, but I'm standing by and watching how it unfolds. Today I'm not happy so far with Acurite, but tomorrow is another day. I'll just wait and see if they start listening. The potential is there, they seem to have a great product, fixing issues, and reaching out to their customers (excellent by the way). They just haven't done enough to win me over yet.

If a company made a computer that didn't allow you to backup your own files, but then charged you for cloud backup as an added service, would that be okay? Or would you rather be able to backup your own files for free locally? There are several benefits to remote cloud backup, but you should have a choice to roll your own.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: nincehelser on November 03, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
Well I disagree. It's my own data. I don't think I should have to pay for my own data. Limiting the Access to then charge you for getting at your own data is not good business.

No one limited the Access for the purposes of keeping you from your own data.  I'm not aware of any plans for Acurite to charge you to get to your own data, either.

Tiered subscription services are just-that.  In this case there is a "free" tier that is unlikely to go away.  Higher tiers require fees for advanced services.  Some of those services probably involve more than just "your data".  (e.g. fast-updating forecasts, maps, etc.)

If you don't want the advanced services, don't subscribe.

Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: radioman61 on November 03, 2018, 07:27:46 PM
If a company made a computer that didn't allow you to backup your own files, but then charged you for cloud backup as an added service, would that be okay? Or would you rather be able to backup your own files for free locally? There are several benefits to remote cloud backup, but you should have a choice to roll your own.

Apple does this now...and quite successfully
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: galfert on November 03, 2018, 07:42:30 PM
If a company made a computer that didn't allow you to backup your own files, but then charged you for cloud backup as an added service, would that be okay? Or would you rather be able to backup your own files for free locally? There are several benefits to remote cloud backup, but you should have a choice to roll your own.

Apple does this now...and quite successfully

Im able to backup iOS and macOS without issues using various methods. So I'm not sure what you are getting at.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: radioman61 on November 03, 2018, 08:11:47 PM
My iPhones and iPads have no card slot. Lots of folks paying for iCloud storage.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: galfert on November 04, 2018, 09:23:08 PM
I think iCloud is great. I'm glad Apple offers it. I'm also glad it isn't the only solution. Don't need a card slot when there is WiFi and USB and an app store that offers 3rd party apps and services.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: nincehelser on November 04, 2018, 09:41:46 PM
I think iCloud is great. I'm glad Apple offers it. I'm also glad it isn't the only solution. Don't need a card slot when there is WiFi and USB and an app store that offers 3rd party apps and services.

Acurite gear doesn't have an "only solution", either.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: galfert on November 04, 2018, 09:56:34 PM
I think iCloud is great. I'm glad Apple offers it. I'm also glad it isn't the only solution. Don't need a card slot when there is WiFi and USB and an app store that offers 3rd party apps and services.

Acurite gear doesn't have an "only solution", either.

I agree with you. They offer myAcurite and WU and SD card.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: nincehelser on November 04, 2018, 10:00:38 PM
I think iCloud is great. I'm glad Apple offers it. I'm also glad it isn't the only solution. Don't need a card slot when there is WiFi and USB and an app store that offers 3rd party apps and services.

Acurite gear doesn't have an "only solution", either.

I agree with you. They offer myAcurite and WU and SD card.

And all the 3rd party solutions, too.  Just like Apple.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: galfert on November 04, 2018, 10:07:30 PM
I think iCloud is great. I'm glad Apple offers it. I'm also glad it isn't the only solution. Don't need a card slot when there is WiFi and USB and an app store that offers 3rd party apps and services.

Acurite gear doesn't have an "only solution", either.

I agree with you. They offer myAcurite and WU and SD card.

And all the 3rd party solutions, too.  Just like Apple.

Okay. This is good news. I can't wait for the Atlas Elite. I'll probably buy one.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: Victoria on November 07, 2018, 05:02:46 PM
UV does, but not lumens.

Is this on Acurites road map?

Yes, this is something we plan to add in the near future. No specific timeline available yet.



Well I disagree. It's my own data. I don't think I should have to pay for my own data. Limiting the Access to then charge you for getting at your own data is not good business. Sure there could be added benefits they throw in like forecasting or maps or graphs or whatever else along with your data that they do, but those are things you could do yourself if you could easily have at your data directly from within your own network using hardware that you've already paid for.

I'm not disagreeing that a company should be able to create added services and then charge you for it. The problem comes when they purposefully do what they can to limit and force people to have to pay. But in the end it is true that the company can do whatever it wants. Their lack of vision only creates opportunities for other companies. People vote with their wallets. I'm very excited about the Atlas Elite, but I'm standing by and watching how it unfolds. Today I'm not happy so far with Acurite, but tomorrow is another day. I'll just wait and see if they start listening. The potential is there, they seem to have a great product, fixing issues, and reaching out to their customers (excellent by the way). They just haven't done enough to win me over yet.

If a company made a computer that didn't allow you to backup your own files, but then charged you for cloud backup as an added service, would that be okay? Or would you rather be able to backup your own files for free locally? There are several benefits to remote cloud backup, but you should have a choice to roll your own.

Hi Galfert, my name is Victoria, and I'm a Product Manager for AcuRite. Regarding your concerns, I'd like to assure you that there's no scheme to try to coerce you into paying for some kind of service by restricting access to your data. The reasoning behind the current management of your data is more based around customer feedback and trying to reach different goals to deliver certain features and capabilities, such as increased security.

Besides, like you suggested, that kind of behavior would never work anyway; people vote with their wallets, like you said, and if we limit ourselves with petty tricks, someone will just come in and do it the right way and it all falls apart. I would rather be the people to do it the right way and deliver the solution people want and need.

Anyway, as I mentioned, we base product decisions around customer feedback, which is why I'd like to better understand your use case. For example, what is it exactly that you would like to do with your data?


Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: galfert on November 07, 2018, 06:45:54 PM
UV does, but not lumens.

Is this on Acurites road map?

Yes, this is something we plan to add in the near future. No specific timeline available yet.



Well I disagree. It's my own data. I don't think I should have to pay for my own data. Limiting the Access to then charge you for getting at your own data is not good business. Sure there could be added benefits they throw in like forecasting or maps or graphs or whatever else along with your data that they do, but those are things you could do yourself if you could easily have at your data directly from within your own network using hardware that you've already paid for.

I'm not disagreeing that a company should be able to create added services and then charge you for it. The problem comes when they purposefully do what they can to limit and force people to have to pay. But in the end it is true that the company can do whatever it wants. Their lack of vision only creates opportunities for other companies. People vote with their wallets. I'm very excited about the Atlas Elite, but I'm standing by and watching how it unfolds. Today I'm not happy so far with Acurite, but tomorrow is another day. I'll just wait and see if they start listening. The potential is there, they seem to have a great product, fixing issues, and reaching out to their customers (excellent by the way). They just haven't done enough to win me over yet.

If a company made a computer that didn't allow you to backup your own files, but then charged you for cloud backup as an added service, would that be okay? Or would you rather be able to backup your own files for free locally? There are several benefits to remote cloud backup, but you should have a choice to roll your own.

Hi Galfert, my name is Victoria, and I'm a Product Manager for AcuRite. Regarding your concerns, I'd like to assure you that there's no scheme to try to coerce you into paying for some kind of service by restricting access to your data. The reasoning behind the current management of your data is more based around customer feedback and trying to reach different goals to deliver certain features and capabilities, such as increased security.

Besides, like you suggested, that kind of behavior would never work anyway; people vote with their wallets, like you said, and if we limit ourselves with petty tricks, someone will just come in and do it the right way and it all falls apart. I would rather be the people to do it the right way and deliver the solution people want and need.

Anyway, as I mentioned, we base product decisions around customer feedback, which is why I'd like to better understand your use case. For example, what is it exactly that you would like to do with your data?

Victoria,
Thank you for taking notice of my post. In response to your inquiry about my concerns the following are the things that I would like any weather station that I own be capable of doing with my weather data.

Take for example your competition. On the high end there is Davis and then on the lower price market there is Ambient Weather. With either of these hardware vendors it is very easy to run 3rd party software. Ambient only requires an ObserverIP and then a Meteobridge and then the sky is the limit on what you can do with your data. A Davis station likewise supports Meteobridge and other software by connecting a computer to their console (via USB or via the network), as their logger can be queried for data.

You claim security reasons for not having the ability to directly get data from your station. But I don't see what you are securing. Having the capability to send your data elsewhere would be the customers choice to configure. It would most likely be a local network system that receives the data. Weather Underground data is sent over the Internet in clear text format anyway. You don't have to give direct control of the network device, instead you add the capability for the station to send the data where the customer wants it to go.

I can understand limiting the functionality of your hardware so that it cuts on customer service support. If you add a functionality then you may get inundated with requests for making that advertised feature to work. But your competitors manage to have these features. I think it is pretty much understood anyway that if you need help with this added functionality that you go to the 3rd party software for help or the user community.

The above is pretty much the critical part of what should be done minimally. Now if you want to put the icing on the cake and make your weather station hardware/software solution stellar then see this post for a list of improvements to the Atlas Elite. But by all means feel free to add these to the Atlas 7/8 also.
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=31119.msg363055#msg363055

I even have a list of improvements for Davis Instruments on their next weather station hardware (some of which are features you already have), do all this too (what you are missing) and then you've knocked it out of the park:
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=35354.msg362228#msg362228

Here is my perspective as a weather station owner. Today I can't buy the perfect solution at any price. Lets just take Acurite, Ambient and Davis. With Davis at the premium priced end there is much reputation in the professional industry to perhaps justify the higher cost and the solution they provide. But the Davis current solution is very dated to some consumers like myself that are looking for all the bells and whistles in eye candy like the beautiful Atlas display color touch screen. You can't get that with the Davis currently, and there is also no lightning detection. Then you have Ambient Weather and their reasonable price and much improved hardware offers a lot of the connectivity functionality in a Davis. Sure the Ambient Weather solution does not use as high end sensor as Acurite and Davis but the added functionality to do what you want with your data is there. With Acurite you have come out with new hardware that looks amazing, has industry leading sensors, and it almost feels perfect....till you consider the limited ability to get at the data. So I can't win no matter which hardware vendor you choose, there is always a compromise. I'm used to the compromise being price, as they say you get what you pay for, but in this case even at any price you can't have it all. I don't think Ambient is looking like they are in the market to deliver the top end solution. But I currently selected them because it was a minor investment till I waited for the right top end high priced solution to come along. At this point I'm waiting for Acurite or Davis to make the right move.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: nincehelser on November 07, 2018, 07:09:58 PM
Anyway, as I mentioned, we base product decisions around customer feedback, which is why I'd like to better understand your use case. For example, what is it exactly that you would like to do with your data?

From my observations, much of the customer base is anxious for the ability to send your weather data to more weather networks.  I recently took an informal poll in one of the Facebook groups and came up with these results:

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I think the Holy Grail that many here want is a local API so they can use their own data gathering/archiving/visualization programs (e.g. weewx) and/or to produce their own weather websites for their local communities.  A big advantage of a local API is that you are not dependent on the internet ("cloud") during severe weather events.

A simple solution that would suit me is to have the Access re-broadcast sensor data packets on the local network, sort of like what WeatherFlow is now doing.

For example, each time an Acurite sensor broadcasts over the airwaves, the Access would pick it up and re-broadcast that data on the local network.  Interested programs (clients) on the network would intercept and process the data however they want to.  This should be a very simple task for the Access and wouldn't be a huge development burden on Acurite.

The disadvantage, of course, is that clients would have to keep track of the data themselves (e.g. rainfall accumulation), but as long as you explain the format of each broadcast packet, it would be well within the capabilities of most programmers and developers on this forum.



Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: vreihen on November 08, 2018, 06:01:47 AM
A simple solution that would suit me is to have the Access re-broadcast sensor data packets on the local network, sort of like what WeatherFlow is now doing.

For example, each time an Acurite sensor broadcasts over the airwaves, the Access would pick it up and re-broadcast that data on the local network.  Interested programs (clients) on the network would intercept and process the data however they want to.  This should be a very simple task for the Access and wouldn't be a huge development burden on Acurite.

As the person who developed/shares the open-source WeatherFlow UDP station driver for weewx, I think that the engineers on their team who came up with the idea of broadcasting JSON UDP packets on the local subnet as they are received from the sensors should receive a Nobel Prize!

Show this API link to the Access programmers, and I bet that they can have a similar scheme implemented by the end of the day:

https://weatherflow.github.io/SmartWeather/api/udp.html (https://weatherflow.github.io/SmartWeather/api/udp.html)

(Pass along my suggestion to go pure JSON in their implementation, and not use the list-of-lists that WeatherFlow uses for their observation data blob.)

Here's my weewx station driver, as an example of how easy it is to gram these UDP broadcast packets and import them into a local app:

https://github.com/captain-coredump/weatherflow-udp (https://github.com/captain-coredump/weatherflow-udp)

As someone who collects weather stations and received a positive long-term ownership experience with my aging 5-in-1, the only thing preventing me from adding an Atlas to my collection is the lack of a published API or scheme to access (pun intended) the data locally.....
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: DadCooks on November 08, 2018, 10:34:22 AM
Just sitting back in my rocking chair and observing the very interesting dialog that has developed in the past couple of days since an actual AcuRite person has expressed an interest in customer suggestions. I like the direction that this is taking. I have nothing to add other than I am an interested observer and consider this a positive point of how a company listening to its customers is necessary for the bottom line and company longevity. AcuRite has fumbled the ball with the too early announcement of the Atlas and then not keeping the interested customers apprised of the development and technical challenges.

I will add one final point, that I hope AcuRite will answer forthrightly. What is going on with the Elite? I am not looking for a release date necessarily (I know those are written in mush), but I do want to know what challenges have been and are being experienced.

Thanks.
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: kiwirob on November 26, 2018, 06:17:02 AM

Anyway, as I mentioned, we base product decisions around customer feedback, which is why I'd like to better understand your use case. For example, what is it exactly that you would like to do with your data?

I'd like to be able to store the weather data to a local database on my vineyard so I build a smart system to intelligently control my irrigation.

If I can see how much rainfall has occurred in the previous period, say 7 days, then I might decide to not automatically turn on my irrigation.  This saves valuable water resources in a restricted aquifer by not watering when my vines don't need watering.  It is environmentally friendly by not using electricity to pump water unnecessarily and saves money because I have to pay per volume of water (around $10,000 annually for the water and also $10,000 annually for the electricity costs).

Making an API with JSON data format weather data (as previously mentioned in this thread) would be ideal to be able to easily handle the data with Internet of Things (IOT) automation hardware and software systems, such as Node Red an IBM developed automation platform that has been provided freely to the Open Source community.

If AcuRite opened up the data there could be whole eco-systems built around their sensors connecting it to IOT automation.  AcuRite doesn't have to provide an end to end solution for this and it's probably best if they don't because a one size fits all approach won't cover the multitude of use cases people may have.  Here is a link to some of the work IBM has been doing in this area https://www.ibm.com/watson/stories/ejgallo/ If IBM are investing in this type of technology then the use cases are real and serve a broad community and environmental function. 

Would be great if AcuRite came on board, with a JSON based API that could be quickly integrated into the ever expanding IOT automation systems.  Everybody else has already done the heavy lifting with open standards and hardware on the automation side, we just need access to quality local weather data to feed into the system. Having to reverse engineer RF signals, can be done, but this limits the main-stream adoption of weather collection stations to people who can get out a soldering iron and build custom hardware.

A single 100 acre vineyard might have as many as 4 or 5 weather stations monitoring very specific weather conditions in each sub-zone.  A Node Red automation system might be able to do so many useful things like monitor wind speed in each specific block and send a email / SMS/ Text Msg alert to a tractor driver if the wind speed has got too high for the area they are spraying, or also alert the driver if they are applying a chemical that can not be sprayed on the vines over a certain temperature.

As an added bonus having the ability to mount custom antenna to expand the range of devices would save having to pull the weather data for each site locally and then using a custom solution to get the data back to the central data logging device.  On the hardware side of things the Xbee platform are an example of a range of devices with different RF solutions that are already used for custom environmental data logging solutions https://www.sparkfun.com/pages/xbee_guide
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: tandy1000 on November 26, 2018, 06:47:15 PM
+1 for someone who would like local access to the data. An API that could be queried would be great, but I look at that as a second phase. Right now the bare minimum would suffice! Like others have said, just having the parsed/JSON-formatted data broadcast over a local port would be a big step.

Reasons include use of my own monitoring software and database. That lets me decide the retention and visualization. I can make my own (even if they are weird) metrics like "rain since the top of the hour" or "fastest temperature drop in the last month" and anything else I can dream up.

I've disconnected my old Acurite bridge in favor of rtl-433. Not including the 5N1, I have a mix of 16 Acurite sensors. And it's not that I have a big house (quite the contrary) but I have a couple of leak detectors, tower sensors near pipes that are prone to freezing, etc. I don't think I could do this as easily (or with the same cost-effectiveness) with any other manufacturer's equipment.

That said, I'm looking to get my next station. Any product w/o realtime, local, restriction-free access to the sensor data won't be a purchase.

Thanks Victoria, for listening to our feedback!

 
Title: Re: New Acurite Atlas 7/8 Station (Elite Summer 2018?) HD FARS
Post by: HeloMech on December 14, 2018, 11:20:58 PM
Anyway, as I mentioned, we base product decisions around customer feedback, which is why I'd like to better understand your use case. For example, what is it exactly that you would like to do with your data?

From my observations, much of the customer base is anxious for the ability to send your weather data to more weather networks.  I recently took an informal poll in one of the Facebook groups and came up with these results:

 [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]


I think the Holy Grail that many here want is a local API so they can use their own data gathering/archiving/visualization programs (e.g. weewx) and/or to produce their own weather websites for their local communities.  A big advantage of a local API is that you are not dependent on the internet ("cloud") during severe weather events.

A simple solution that would suit me is to have the Access re-broadcast sensor data packets on the local network, sort of like what WeatherFlow is now doing.

For example, each time an Acurite sensor broadcasts over the airwaves, the Access would pick it up and re-broadcast that data on the local network.  Interested programs (clients) on the network would intercept and process the data however they want to.  This should be a very simple task for the Access and wouldn't be a huge development burden on Acurite.

The disadvantage, of course, is that clients would have to keep track of the data themselves (e.g. rainfall accumulation), but as long as you explain the format of each broadcast packet, it would be well within the capabilities of most programmers and developers on this forum.
          +1 here too!
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: galfert on December 15, 2018, 07:49:00 AM
Okay it is year end December 15th. Where is the promised Atlas Elite?
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: DoctorKnow on December 15, 2018, 08:01:06 AM
Okay it is year end December 15th. Where is the promised Atlas Elite?
I think they are still building it...
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: abusuzuki on January 08, 2019, 09:44:19 AM
Here's a video about Atlas Elite at CES2017 if anyone interesting:
https://www.facebook.com/acurite/videos/1188336244577100/

and If I am not mistaken, I have heard the announcer say that it is possible to make customization for different readings in the home screen of display, this sounds promising.
Title: Re: **Acurite Atlas 7/8 with FARS + Many Add-Ons Now Available** -Elite Soon?
Post by: wase4711 on January 08, 2019, 06:32:31 PM
Here's a video about Atlas Elite at CES2017 if anyone interesting:
https://www.facebook.com/acurite/videos/1188336244577100/

and If I am not mistaken, I have heard the announcer say that it is possible to make customization for different readings in the home screen of display, this sounds promising.

that video is 2 years old, and still nothing..maybe the 2019 CES show will be the charm!