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Weather Software => GRLevel X Software => Topic started by: LFWX on March 07, 2011, 11:35:24 PM
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GRLevel3 users: please update to the latest version!
Per AllisonHouse Blog http://www.allisonhouse.com/blog/?p=109
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Update complete. Thanks! :grin:
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GRLevel3 users: please update to the latest version!
Per AllisonHouse Blog http://www.allisonhouse.com/blog/?p=109
Thanks for the heads-up. =D>
Would be good if GRLevelX could notify us regarding issues like this, or add the ability to the software to check for an update automatically.
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Yea, I'm not that happy with them. The product works fine but the customer is kinda left out of the loop unless you go spend time at their forum.
Several things I think the product needs:
1. The ability to autostart the ftp publishing process.
2. The ability to automatically check for updates
3. More flexibility in the placefile process.
4. The ability to load multiple sites on startup using (potentially) different placefile settings.
5. The ability that when you upload data to your website, to do it in such a way so that a mouseover would pop-up an info box just like it does from the application
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I like it simple and easy to use... just the way it is.
Auto updates would be nice, but if you guys keep me informed here... I need nothing more. :-)
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The changes I'd like to see don't make it any harder to use, just more flexible.
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Yea, I'm not that happy with them. The product works fine but the customer is kinda left out of the loop unless you go spend time at their forum.
Several things I think the product needs:
1. The ability to autostart the ftp publishing process.
2. The ability to automatically check for updates
3. More flexibility in the placefile process.
4. The ability to load multiple sites on startup using (potentially) different placefile settings.
5. The ability that when you upload data to your website, to do it in such a way so that a mouseover would pop-up an info box just like it does from the application
Reading between the lines on this subject in the owners forum would seem to bring the assumption that using GR3 on a website wasn't a big concern for Mike. It has since exploded in popularity. You would think he would add more features but unfortunately it doesn't look like that will happen anytime soon.
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He flat told me that he had no interest in making the ftp uploads start automatically. I'm thinking "ok, great support!"
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Here is a thread I started a while back.
http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=7115.0
Summary, it was based upon his post at gr3owners....
"You know, if I had to do it all over again, I'd nuke the blasted "Web Publishing" feature. It causes more problems than it's worth and will continue to cause problems for the life of GR3."
It was 90% of the reason I bot it, so that miffed me a bit. His emergency management clients probably dont care about web and ftp, but I would think the PWS segment of his client based is pretty big now.
Andrew
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He flat told me that he had no interest in making the ftp uploads start automatically. I'm thinking "ok, great support!"
I remember 5-6 years ago Tom from Carter Lake asked the exact same question...with the exact same answer...sigh.
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Thanks for the info. I should check those more often! Good thing I got you all who are so good at that stuff! =D> =D>
Mark
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He flat told me that he had no interest in making the ftp uploads start automatically. I'm thinking "ok, great support!"
I remember 5-6 years ago Tom from Carter Lake asked the exact same question...with the exact same answer...sigh.
There are a couple people on that forum that agree with him. R Dale comes to mind. For what ever reason they seem to look down on anybody who wants to upload data. I don't understand the attitude. Who cares what we do with the data.
I once asked for an ftp option in GR2. Some one came back and asked "why, to upload screen shots". :roll:
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Thanks for the info. I should check those more often! Good thing I got you all who are so good at that stuff! =D> =D>
Mark
I happened to learn about this on Twitter when someone I follow retweeted a message from someone else. However I didn't get a tweet from AllisonHouse on this one.
http://twitter.com/allisonhouse
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He flat told me that he had no interest in making the ftp uploads start automatically. I'm thinking "ok, great support!"
Sooner or later, this issue will be resolved by someone who understands that a programmer works for the client.
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I don't understand why they're so negative toward the uploads. I understand FTP can sometimes be a PITA, but it's a normal function for most any weather based software. And you know what, he could take care of his ftp concern by writing the images locally and letting me use Fling to do the upload. Just let me START the publishing process automatically.
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He flat told me that he had no interest in making the ftp uploads start automatically. I'm thinking "ok, great support!"
Sooner or later, this issue will be resolved by someone who understands that a programmer works for the client.
Kevin,
I think it's the "God" complex at work here....
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Kevin,
I think it's the "God" complex at work here....
Unfortunately it's a common malady among programmers for some reason.
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I need to drive over there and have a heart to heart with them, they're only about 10 miles from here!
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"them" = him, "they" = he, another one man show.
Andrew
I need to drive over there and have a heart to heart with them, they're only about 10 miles from here!
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Yea, I'm not that happy with them. The product works fine but the customer is kinda left out of the loop unless you go spend time at their forum.
Several things I think the product needs:
1. The ability to autostart the ftp publishing process.
2. The ability to automatically check for updates
3. More flexibility in the placefile process.
4. The ability to load multiple sites on startup using (potentially) different placefile settings.
5. The ability that when you upload data to your website, to do it in such a way so that a mouseover would pop-up an info box just like it does from the application
Autostart would be my number one priority also.
I'd settle for on restart, being at the same zoom level as before.
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"them" = him, "they" = he, another one man show.
Andrew
I need to drive over there and have a heart to heart with them, they're only about 10 miles from here!
Yep, I know. Makes it easier to do some butt kickin' when there's only one to kick! :-)
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Thought maybe I was the only one that had issues with a couple of "Moderators" on the Forum.
I love the software and it wasn't FREE but a couple of those guys can be down right condescending and in my words "hateful" if you ask a question. I just stopped posting. I guess if you aren't a Meteorologist then you aren't entitled to ask a question??? :?:
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I use a great free program called AUTOIT to automatically start everything in GRLEVEL3. A script is built to open GRLEVEL3, maximize the window, rename the window (I run 3 instances), center the radar exactly where I want it, then start the FTP process. The script can then be saved as an EXE, so it gets started automatically when Windows comes up. Once the script is done, no human intervention is required. :-)
Steve
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I don't understand why they're so negative toward the uploads.
Because that's not what it was designed for. I get the impression that uploading anything was an afterthought and more intended for sharing examples between GR users as a tutorial of sorts. Remember, GR3 was not intended as a commercial project for uploading and broadcasting images to the general public. It really was intended more for Mets and the Public Safety field or business users who have assets to protect. The whole hobbyist angle came in later and I'm not sure he was too wild about that.
Oh, and there are no Moderators over there that I know of.
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I don't understand why they're so negative toward the uploads.
Because that's not what it was designed for. I get the impression that uploading anything was an afterthought and more intended for sharing examples between GR users as a tutorial of sorts. Remember, GR3 was not intended as a commercial project for uploading and broadcasting images to the general public. It really was intended more for Mets and the Public Safety field or business users who have assets to protect. The whole hobbyist angle came in later and I'm not sure he was too wild about that.
Oh, and there are no Moderators over there that I know of.
Well they DID design it in there. And they opened Pandora's Box...... I agree.. I don't understand the negative attitude......
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I don't understand why they're so negative toward the uploads.
Because that's not what it was designed for. I get the impression that uploading anything was an afterthought and more intended for sharing examples between GR users as a tutorial of sorts. Remember, GR3 was not intended as a commercial project for uploading and broadcasting images to the general public. It really was intended more for Mets and the Public Safety field or business users who have assets to protect. The whole hobbyist angle came in later and I'm not sure he was too wild about that.
Oh, and there are no Moderators over there that I know of.
Back when GR3 came out StormLab, Storm Predator, Swift Weather, and Nexrad3 were all used by the weather enthusiast as well as mets and EM's. Mike should have known that GR3 would pique their interest. After all he did include an ftp option so I'm sure he knew that this "other crowd" would sample his product.
The final product is unmatched in my opinion but as others have mentioned the condescending attitude toward the ftp function and any improvement of it in the program is befuddling.
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Let's just say that GR3 is the mid-90s Ford Taurus, sturdy and reliable, but the design and modeling teams are focusing their efforts on the Expedition and Navigator.
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Though I don't use AllisonHouse, yes, an auto update would save me because while I registered for the GRLevel3 owners forum, I never was approved. I cannot figure out why, but picking and choosing owners (read: customers) is a great way to lose business.
I have a boatload of ideas, but now that I think about it, only a handful of them would really benefit us users. Especially that FTP already mentioned.
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Though I don't use AllisonHouse, yes, an auto update would save me because while I registered for the GRLevel3 owners forum, I never was approved. I cannot figure out why, but picking and choosing owners (read: customers) is a great way to lose business.
I have a boatload of ideas, but now that I think about it, only a handful of them would really benefit us users. Especially that FTP already mentioned.
Thats weird. Sounds like a mis communication to me. I'll bet if you contact Mike you'll be approved.
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Though I don't use AllisonHouse, yes, an auto update would save me because while I registered for the GRLevel3 owners forum, I never was approved. I cannot figure out why, but picking and choosing owners (read: customers) is a great way to lose business.
I have a boatload of ideas, but now that I think about it, only a handful of them would really benefit us users. Especially that FTP already mentioned.
Thats weird. Sounds like a mis communication to me. I'll bet if you contact Mike you'll be approved.
I was able to register (yet again). Maybe it'll be approved this time around.
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Though I don't use AllisonHouse, yes, an auto update would save me because while I registered for the GRLevel3 owners forum, I never was approved. I cannot figure out why, but picking and choosing owners (read: customers) is a great way to lose business.
I have a boatload of ideas, but now that I think about it, only a handful of them would really benefit us users. Especially that FTP already mentioned.
Thats weird. Sounds like a mis communication to me. I'll bet if you contact Mike you'll be approved.
Were you able to get access to the owners board yet?
I was able to register (yet again). Maybe it'll be approved this time around.
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Though I don't use AllisonHouse, yes, an auto update would save me because while I registered for the GRLevel3 owners forum, I never was approved. I cannot figure out why, but picking and choosing owners (read: customers) is a great way to lose business.
I have a boatload of ideas, but now that I think about it, only a handful of them would really benefit us users. Especially that FTP already mentioned.
Thats weird. Sounds like a mis communication to me. I'll bet if you contact Mike you'll be approved.
I was able to register (yet again). Maybe it'll be approved this time around.
Were you able to get access to the owners board yet?
Fixed the quote.
And nothing in my email inbox.
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Mixed message here?
What's fixed? does that mean you are in? but then "nothing in my email..." makes it sound like you havent heard whether you are "approved"
Andrew
Fixed.
And nothing in my email inbox.
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Andrew I think the "fixed is referring to me. I put my post inside the quote box and Chris switched it around.
Chris Check your PM.
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I checked my PM :grin:
Check yours now.
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I've visited/registered many forums through the years. What will drive me out in a hurry, every time, is rude moderators and "wannabe" fan-boys who act like you must spend 4 days solid reading the entire forum to make sure it hasn't been asked already somewhere 6 years ago before you have the PRIVILEGE of asking the question.
I mean, i read the stickies, use search when available. But some of these people act like its a cardinal sin. Hell we all benefit from a question and answer usually.
One thing that really irks me, is when someone posts something of interest, and someone replies "oh thats old" or "last week called, they want their post back". It's usually an immature kids way of saying "haha i saw it before you did!" (remember, being first must an outstanding achievement to a kid, look at all the "First!!" comments on you-tube.
Besides, if i post something, and you've seen it already, doesn't that just make it all the better for us to have a discussion about it? in a discussion forum? Wouldn't be much of a discussion if only one person was discussing it.
Some of these forums get completely out of control with their "cliques". Reminds me of that old looney-tune cartoon, where the pitbull is strutting down the sidewalk and the little pip-squeek dog is running circles around him saying "we're friends aint we spike? huh huh!? me and you's friends right!!??"
I'll take a good solid community (which i believe i've found here" rather than a leadership/following anyday. I believe we can all learn from each others strong points and areas of expertise.
Just my two cents,
Good day everyone :)
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Bravo! =D>
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Well said Scott. That's why this place is awesome. Everyone help each other out and there is good happy discussion.
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Absolutely!!!! I for one certainly don't mind hearing a question more than once! Sometimes things have changed since the first query sometimes not but if it pertains it's always good to refresh my memory! And if I don't want or need to read it that's why they invented delete buttons!