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Web Weather => Weather Website PHP/AJAX scripting => Topic started by: W Thomas on May 12, 2011, 12:11:27 AM
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I have currently warnings that expired at 8:45 that are still showing as current. I have re ran the fetch several times above it's normal 3 minute interval and they still seem to not want to go away. Anybody else get warnings this evening in their warn area that is experiencing this? Or is it just related to me?
I have had no troubles with the script since the url change awhile back, it just sits there and pulls warnings, watches and advisories for several counties surrounding me without a hitch.
Just thought I would check in and poll the census about this anomaly :)
Regards,
Wayne
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My CWA is completely offline, radar and all... So I cannot offer anything other than to say make sure your local NWS office is actually online and updating.
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It was earlier... Will definitely check now and make sure.
Thanks for the info!
Wayne
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Nothing has updated on the NWS side of things since yesterday at 8:10 EDT.
[edited] They are now working as of 6:15am EST
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Maybe another of their " Growing Pains" for the new system making itself known :)
Should be a robust system once they get the bugs worked out!
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The system seems to be stable so far today.Hopefully they have found the prob
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Feeds are now down in Oklahoma!
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Well Dang!! I have a current warning and a watch in my warn areas so I can't say for sure what it would do if these weren't current.
I wonder are they making changes to the system of does it plain and simple break down often :)
Sometime during the morning hours they apparently got it up and running because my system was showing the correct data earlier and these warnings and watches came up as they should.
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Same scenario today... and this afternoon...... Warning triggered in close to real time but they don't seem to go away when they are set to expire. I have even noticed the warnings stay active longer than they are supposed after a NWR alert on my radio equipment also. Must be some sort of programming error somewhere.
Anybody else noticing this??
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Anybody else noticing this??
Right on schedule. :lol:
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Does seem to break about this time nightly lately :lol:
I may be one of the fortunate ones though.. I do seem to get the products for the most part but they like it so well they don't want to leave \:D/
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Nothing has updated on the NWS side of things since yesterday at 8:10 EDT.
[edited] They are now working as of 6:15am EST
I am noticing this issue right now on my site. It also happened last night. Is anyone noticing that things stopped updating?
It always happens around 8:15PM EST time too. #-o
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I show my last update at 9:27Pm . But I have no warnings, watches or advisories here currently. as we're under the influence f a strong pressure gradient that is keeping my area away from what you are getting.
For some reason it does seem around the 8-8:30 time frame it happens.
Hope it gets repaired soon!
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You can see mine are stuck at 8:15 here at http://www.mountcrawfordweather.org/warnings.php5
I have done a manual refresh a number of times and still the same thing.
Here is the NWS link for the alerts.
http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwaatmget.php?x=VAC165
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:grin:
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:grin:
Why the smiley face? I am confused.
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It's been easy to laugh at the NWS lately.
Since the ATOM feed introduction, it's getting to be a joke.
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Yes, I will agree with you on that.
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Me too :) What they said was supposed to be a better way has turned out to be almost a flop..LOL!
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It's been easy to laugh at the NWS lately.
Since the ATOM feed introduction, it's getting to be a joke.
I totally agree. I would prefer that they trashcaned the Atom feeds and brought back the RSS feeds. Anyway, it took 4 emails to NWS before I finally got a reply but, they are aware of the problem which has been going on for about a week now, the process stops at about 8:00 pm EDT and starts back up at around 6:00 am EDT. I only hope they find the problem and get it fixed soon.
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It's 5:30 am and they are still stuck from last night. It should be interesting to see if it comes back online/fixes itself after 6:00 as you guys mentioned. :)
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It's 5:30 am and they are still stuck from last night. It should be interesting to see if it comes back online/fixes itself after 6:00 as you guys mentioned. :)
In the last 10 minutes, around 6:10am EDT, the NWS page Sam uses has been updated... but the page shows that it was last updated at 3:45am EDT. #-o
I'm betting that there's a light switch involved here somewhere. :lol:
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Yep Kray, Thanks. Sure enough my warnings are working again after 6:00 am.
http://www.mountcrawfordweather.org/warnings.php5
The light switch theory is good one too. :grin:
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Sure sounds like somebody shuts down the system when they leave their shift :grin:
Mine was showing normal updates but I didn't have any warnings or advisories to check it on but normally when I do it does the same as Sam's does..sometime in the early morning hours they clear after being expired for hours. I have also noticed the warning light on my weather radio staying on as well when this happens which is strange.. Kevin's light switch theory is as they say on Myth Busters ..Plausible \:D/
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With our current pattern, looks like it will most likely get stuck again tonight.
Hey Harryca, what email address or whom did you contact? I would like to send them a note of complaint, and perhaps nudge them into fixing this issue.
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Sam, Are you friends with anyone at your local WFO? ( Sterling Va )
That is what I did last time was to give my friend a call at my WFO and he forwarded the information to the responsible party and I got a reply back within a day that they were aware of the problem and working to correct it..although it seems they may have not been successful as of yet :) All my previous emails went without reply.
Good Luck!
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Nope, I know no one, but perhaps it is time they learned of me. :twisted: ;)
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With our current pattern, looks like it will most likely get stuck again tonight.
Hey Harryca, what email address or whom did you contact? I would like to send them a note of complaint, and perhaps nudge them into fixing this issue.
I sent emails to the NWS Internet Services Team <w-nws.webmaster@noaa.gov> I got a reply from Robert Bunge who is one of the contact persons for the Atom feeds project. I also understand that Mike Gerber is another contact person for the project.
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Mike is the person who contacted me last time. Never did hear anything from Robert
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With our current pattern, looks like it will most likely get stuck again tonight.
Hey Harryca, what email address or whom did you contact? I would like to send them a note of complaint, and perhaps nudge them into fixing this issue.
I sent emails to the NWS Internet Services Team <w-nws.webmaster@noaa.gov> I got a reply from Robert Bunge who is one of the contact persons for the Atom feeds project. I also understand that Mike Gerber is another contact person for the project.
Perhaps all of us should start reporting the problem to that email address. Enough small voices may get us heard! [-o< I am going for it right now!
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Got my email sent off! Hoping it helps. [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o<
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I'm betting that there's a light switch involved here somewhere. :lol:
That crossed my mind since the local airport is the same way. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KEKM/2011/5/18/DailyHistory.html (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KEKM/2011/5/18/DailyHistory.html)
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I'm betting that there's a light switch involved here somewhere. :lol:
That crossed my mind since the local airport is the same way. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KEKM/2011/5/18/DailyHistory.html (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KEKM/2011/5/18/DailyHistory.html)
We'll have to find out if that's the problem..I'll donate 2 wire nuts to bypass that switch \:D/ \:D/
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Looks like the feeds shut down again tonight
Watches, Warnings or Advisories for
Jefferson (OKC067) Oklahoma
This page shows alerts currently in effect for Jefferson (OKC067) Oklahoma and is normally updated every two-three minutes. Please see here for other state and listing by county.
Last updated: 00:12 GMT on 05-20-2011
There are no active watches, warnings or advisories
For all its worth I sent an e-mail.
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Mine says they are updating but then again we have nothing current so I would likely be in the same boat as you if I did.
Last account I had was that they were aware of a problem and were working to repair it..no eta though..
Soon I hope!
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I got no reply to my email yet. Mine stopped updating on schedule.
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Same here FWIW I sent another mail to Mike Gerber in addition to talking with the WFO folks.. Maybe something good will happen today :-P
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Same here FWIW I sent another mail to Mike Gerber in addition to talking with the WFO folks.. Maybe something good will happen today :-P
Down again tonight. Don't look like anybody is listening to us.
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Yep, Just noticed that a few ago. I haven't gotten anything back yet from the responsible persons.
I still don't understand why they can't get this corrected !
Resending !!!
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From the few feeds I have checked, it looks like they finally got it fixed.
http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/ar.php?x=1
http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/tx.php?x=1
Even my tornado/severe thunderstorm warnings page, that takes in all 50+ state feeds, is still getting updated. Usually you would see a whole bunch of warnings that would have expired by now.
http://ucweather.org/stormauto.php
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It does appear they have!! I just looked at mine and last update was 12:41 for an air quality alert for one of my warn counties.
At the very least this is the first time in a long time I have seen updates before 6-6:30AM Bravo for the team!!!!
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I have no alerts for tonight, but the updates are occurring. I hope this is the last of this problem! :)
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I had one earlier for a county in North Carolina and it came and went just as it was prescribed to do :lol:
I was wondering earlier today how your situation was doing. Glad it's fixed!! Or at the very least I hope it is !!
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The feed was still broken here last evening when we had a severe thunderstorm watch but the feed didn't reflect that status. I finally added a *NOTE* to my site warning visitors that this feature is currently AWOL.
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Well dang! Maybe it's working towards you :lol: I hope so.
Just checked here and currently we have nothing but that was updated recently.
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Mine hasn't worked for a long time (several weeks?). For much of the past week we were under a flood watch to a flash flood warning, and the atom feed was empty. Today we've been under a severe t-storm watch for the past 100 minutes, and as usual, the feed shows "There are no active watches, warnings or advisories."
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Mine hasn't worked for a long time (several weeks?). For much of the past week we were under a flood watch to a flash flood warning, and the atom feed was empty. Today we've been under a severe t-storm watch for the past 100 minutes, and as usual, the feed shows "There are no active watches, warnings or advisories."
I'm sure you are already aware that there was a change in the URL for the script a bit ago..but I thought I would blab anyway :)
( New URL http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwaatmget.php ) Refer to topic=11017.0
I actually have something good to report on the performance of the ATOM Alerts tonight..from here anyway :) I went through several cycles of watches, warnings, special weather statements, and so forth and it appears that it is updating timely even now and everything has came and went as it was supposed to do..Whew!! that is a relief!
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It's working ok here today with a tornado watch now out. The alert appeared on my site quite soon after the weather radio alarm for it went off.
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Mine hasn't worked for a long time (several weeks?). For much of the past week we were under a flood watch to a flash flood warning, and the atom feed was empty. Today we've been under a severe t-storm watch for the past 100 minutes, and as usual, the feed shows "There are no active watches, warnings or advisories."
I'm sure you are already aware that there was a change in the URL for the script a bit ago..but I thought I would blab anyway :)
( New URL http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwaatmget.php ) Refer to topic=11017.0
I actually have something good to report on the performance of the ATOM Alerts tonight..from here anyway :) I went through several cycles of watches, warnings, special weather statements, and so forth and it appears that it is updating timely even now and everything has came and went as it was supposed to do..Whew!! that is a relief!
Thanks, Wayne! I haven't been on in quite a while, and I missed that.
Thanks again!
Regards,
Kevin...
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No Problem Kevin !! I owe you one big time anyway :)
Have a good evening!
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It's working! Thanks again, Wayne!
Regards,
Kevin...
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Any time Kevin!! Glad I could help!!! It's much better to have this working with weather that has been affecting some of us lately!
Hope your area is tranquil!
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Any time Kevin!! Glad I could help!!! It's much better to have this working with weather that has been affecting some of us lately!
Exactly! What a crazy spring!
Hope your area is tranquil!
We've had an extremely wet spring. So far we've received 20.13 inches ytd. The normal ytd is 10.47 inches. Last Thursday my entire back yard was under water. Besides the 0.89 I've received so far today, we're forecast to get more rain (possibly heavy) and possible t-storms tonight. The mess that's in IL/MO looks to be heading our way. The forecast is for continued rain until Sunday. There's a lot of flooding around here as the ground has been saturated for weeks.
Have things been quiet in your area?
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Somewhat..until the tornado outbreak of April 27-28th. We lost a tree here which is trivial compared to what was lost a mere 8-9 miles down the road. I plotted the path and the whole mess was headed straight for us until it veered more north.. Somebody was definitely looking out for us! Other than a little minor flooding and wind that has about been it.. Our weather patterns for the last several years have been nowhere near as active as this past winter and so far this spring! Definitely not a good time for NWR or the warning servers to go on vacation that's for sure! Hopefully you didn't suffer any damage with you back yard flooding problem! That sounds like it could have been a huge problem.. The warnings have gotten a workout here along last night thankfully we were under some but didn't receive any problems because of it.
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Thankfully we only had one minor alert here during the last round of severe weather, but it came and went appropriately on my website.
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Thankfully we only had one minor alert here during the last round of severe weather, but it came and went appropriately on my website.
That is great to hear !!! For such a long time we could report nothing but negative remarks about this operation.. finally some good results to report for a change and they come at a much needed time with all the severe weather happening currently.
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New issue identified.
Presently we are in a Flood Watch and a Tornado Watch. (Storms on the way but not here yet.) The tornado watch has been in effect for almost 90 minutes.
My atom-top-warning header displays a Flood Watch but not the higher priority Tornado Watch. Any suggestions? I'm using atom-top-warning ver. 2.07.
http://www.wxbeacon.com/vws/advisories.php (http://www.wxbeacon.com/vws/advisories.php)
Thanks!
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IIRC when they reworked the warnings the TOR warnings are now on a county basis vs zone. Might want to have another look at your settings,especially the county code and make sure it is OK.. I suppose it could also be a NWS problem. I think Sam had a problem with the TOR warnings and to find later it was indeed a NWS server issue. Currently everything is tranquil here and likely will be for a day or two. At any rate if you get serious weather be safe!
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IIRC when they reworked the warnings the TOR warnings are now on a county basis vs zone. Might want to have another look at your settings,especially the county code and make sure it is OK.. I suppose it could also be a NWS problem. I think Sam had a problem with the TOR warnings and to find later it was indeed a NWS server issue. Currently everything is tranquil here and likely will be for a day or two. At any rate if you get serious weather be safe!
Thanks Wayne.
I went to Ken's test page and entered my zone:
http://saratoga-weather.org/atom-top-warning-testpage.php?zone=MIZ061 (http://saratoga-weather.org/atom-top-warning-testpage.php?zone=MIZ061)
and it, too, lists us as in a Flood Watch rather than the higher priority Tornado Watch. So perhaps it is a problem with the NWS site. :sad:
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Not all that surprising is it LOL!!! Seems they have more than their share of problems with this system!
BE safe if weather gets rough up your way!
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New issue identified.
Presently we are in a Flood Watch and a Tornado Watch. (Storms on the way but not here yet.) The tornado watch has been in effect for almost 90 minutes.
My atom-top-warning header displays a Flood Watch but not the higher priority Tornado Watch. Any suggestions? I'm using atom-top-warning ver. 2.07.
http://www.wxbeacon.com/vws/advisories.php (http://www.wxbeacon.com/vws/advisories.php)
Thanks!
Actually my fix was to no longer use Ken's at http://saratoga-weather.org/scripts-atom.php#atomadvisory
....but to use Curly's Atom Alert script. Unfortunately I was going to post a link to it here for you. But it appears he may have taken it down or at least moved it, from my bookmark location. I sent him a message to restore/direct me to it. :-( #-o
UPDATE: I provided a download link further down the thread for those who still want it.
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New issue identified.
Presently we are in a Flood Watch and a Tornado Watch. (Storms on the way but not here yet.) The tornado watch has been in effect for almost 90 minutes.
My atom-top-warning header displays a Flood Watch but not the higher priority Tornado Watch. Any suggestions? I'm using atom-top-warning ver. 2.07.
http://www.wxbeacon.com/vws/advisories.php (http://www.wxbeacon.com/vws/advisories.php)
Thanks!
Actually my fix was to no longer use Ken's at http://saratoga-weather.org/scripts-atom.php#atomadvisory
....but to use Curly's Atom Alert script. Unfortunately I was going to post a link to it here for you. But it appears he may have taken it down or at least moved it, from my bookmark location. I sent him a message to restore/direct me to it. :-( #-o
That would be great, Sam. Thanks!
I also pm-d Ken to ask his opinion on the problem. (Sorry to bombard you, Ken! :oops:)
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The issue appears to be where the NWS chooses to put the warnings.
The Zone warning has only Watches, Warnings or Advisories for
Genesee (MIZ061) Michigan
This page shows alerts currently in effect for Genesee (MIZ061) Michigan and is normally updated every two-three minutes. Please see here for other state and listing by county.
Last updated: 15:04 EDT on 05-29-2011
Flood Watch
Issued: May 29 at 3:04PM EDT
Expiring: May 30 at 2:00AM EDT
Issued by NWS Detroit Urgency: Future
Status: Actual
Areas affected:Genesee; Lapeer; Lenawee; Livingston; Macomb; Monroe; Oakland; Shiawassee; St. Clair; Washtenaw; Wayne
while the County warning feed has
Home > Alerts > Genesee (MIC049) Michigan
Watches, Warnings or Advisories for
Genesee (MIC049) Michigan
This page shows alerts currently in effect for Genesee (MIC049) Michigan and is normally updated every two-three minutes. Please see here for other state and listing by county.
Last updated: 18:44 EDT on 05-29-2011
Severe Weather Statement
Issued: May 29 at 6:44PM EDT
Expiring: May 29 at 6:54PM EDT
Issued by NWS Detroit Urgency: Immediate
Status: Actual
Areas affected:Genesee
Tornado Watch
Issued: May 29 at 6:37PM EDT
Expiring: May 29 at 8:00PM EDT
Issued by NWS Detroit Urgency: Expected
Status: Actual
Areas affected:Genesee; Lapeer; Macomb; Oakland; Sanilac; St. Clair; Tuscola
Flood Watch
Issued: May 29 at 3:04PM EDT
Expiring: May 30 at 2:00AM EDT
Issued by NWS Detroit Urgency: Future
Status: Actual
Areas affected:Genesee; Lapeer; Lenawee; Livingston; Macomb; Monroe; Oakland; Shiawassee; St. Clair; Washtenaw; Wayne
Since the atom-top-warning is set to read the Zone, it only shows the flood warning.
Regrettably, Curly has discontinued distribution (and support) for the multizone ATOM PHP scripts so it's no longer available :(
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Regrettably, Curly has discontinued distribution (and support) for the multizone ATOM PHP scripts so it's no longer available :(
I found this link on the other forum that may explain his discontinuance. http://www.weather-watch.com/smf/index.php/topic,49871.msg410558.html
UPDATE:
I found an original copy of the script that I had. I hope he does not mind if I share it here. But I guess in respect of the info found in the above forum, he may not appreciate that I post it publicly. SO I am attempting to clear it through him.
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The issue appears to be where the NWS chooses to put the warnings.
The Zone warning has only Watches, Warnings or Advisories for
Genesee (MIZ061) Michigan
This page shows alerts currently in effect for Genesee (MIZ061) Michigan and is normally updated every two-three minutes. Please see here for other state and listing by county.
Last updated: 15:04 EDT on 05-29-2011
Flood Watch
Issued: May 29 at 3:04PM EDT
Expiring: May 30 at 2:00AM EDT
Issued by NWS Detroit Urgency: Future
Status: Actual
Areas affected:Genesee; Lapeer; Lenawee; Livingston; Macomb; Monroe; Oakland; Shiawassee; St. Clair; Washtenaw; Wayne
while the County warning feed has
Home > Alerts > Genesee (MIC049) Michigan
Watches, Warnings or Advisories for
Genesee (MIC049) Michigan
This page shows alerts currently in effect for Genesee (MIC049) Michigan and is normally updated every two-three minutes. Please see here for other state and listing by county.
Last updated: 18:44 EDT on 05-29-2011
Severe Weather Statement
Issued: May 29 at 6:44PM EDT
Expiring: May 29 at 6:54PM EDT
Issued by NWS Detroit Urgency: Immediate
Status: Actual
Areas affected:Genesee
Tornado Watch
Issued: May 29 at 6:37PM EDT
Expiring: May 29 at 8:00PM EDT
Issued by NWS Detroit Urgency: Expected
Status: Actual
Areas affected:Genesee; Lapeer; Macomb; Oakland; Sanilac; St. Clair; Tuscola
Flood Watch
Issued: May 29 at 3:04PM EDT
Expiring: May 30 at 2:00AM EDT
Issued by NWS Detroit Urgency: Future
Status: Actual
Areas affected:Genesee; Lapeer; Lenawee; Livingston; Macomb; Monroe; Oakland; Shiawassee; St. Clair; Washtenaw; Wayne
Since the atom-top-warning is set to read the Zone, it only shows the flood warning.
Regrettably, Curly has discontinued distribution (and support) for the multizone ATOM PHP scripts so it's no longer available :(
Thanks for the explanation, Ken.
That raises a couple questions:
- Is there an alternative to atom-top-warning? Before its distribution, I successfully used rss-top-warning. I switched to it (rss-top-warning) this afternoon too give it a try, and it also gave merely the Flood Watch and not the tornado watch/warning.
- Throughout today's events, my "weather graphic" properly showed the highest priority warning. Thus, as the statements became progressively more severe, it correctly displayed flood watch > tornado watch > tornado warning. So where does the wxgraphic get its info?
As always, thanks, Ken!
Regards,
Kevin...
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Regrettably, Curly has discontinued distribution (and support) for the multizone ATOM PHP scripts so it's no longer available :(
I found this link on the other forum that may explain his discontinuance. http://www.weather-watch.com/smf/index.php/topic,49871.msg410558.html#msg410558
UPDATE:
I found an original copy of the script that I had. I hope he does not mind if I share it here. But I guess in respect of the info found in the above forum, he may not appreciate that I post it publicly. SO I am attempting to clear it through him.
Good News!
I have talked with Curly(Rick) and he is allowing me to host it at this point. However I am under the impression that he does not want to be contacted on support issues at this time.
So here it is for those who wish to download it. I also provided a "read me" file with a change to the config file that everyone should note.
http://www.mountcrawfordweather.org/file_storage/Curlys_Atom_Alerts_Script.zip
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This is great news! The support issues for this script would be very minimal if the NWS could settle on standard for doing things and be able to stick with that for a time. I'm sure I worried him to death when I was setting it up on my site a year or so ago. We were having a terrible time getting it to work as he wrote it here for some reason but once we did it was virtually flawless until lately with all the NWS changes.
No arguments that this is a very valuable piece of work and again Thanks to Curly for taking time to develop,test and make available such works!
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Thanks, Sam & Curly! :-D UU
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This script should cure your weather alert ills.
By creating an array with your county and zone files you guys should be all set.
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Thanks, Sam & Curly! :-D UU
Great scripts Curly! I finally got everything up and running this afternoon with Curly''s scripts on my GoDaddy site. Had to set up multiple CRON jobs to get an update every 10 minutes.
Installing AtomAlerts sort of broke my mobile website which started throwing multiple 'header already sent' error messages at the top. I had to modify 'top.php' like this:
//Version top.php - V3.01 - 03-Mar-2011 - added Content-Type header for charset switching
############################################################################
if ($mobTitle == '') {
header("Content-Type: text/html; charset=".strtoupper($SITE['charset'])); // Avoid mobile error
}
And 'include-style-switcher.php' needed this change:
############
# Use cookies to remember settings between site visits
############
# cookies are used to remember the users style settings on each visit to the web site
# you can disable use of cookies, but then the settings would have to be set by
# the user each visit to the web site
# recommended setting: true
if ($mobTitle != '') {
$use_cookies = false; # avoid mobile error
}
else {
$use_cookies = true; # set to true or false
}
Lastly I also made this change to 'WWL-mobile.php':
// --- settings for standalone use --------------------------
############################################################################
session_start(); // Avoid 'headers already sent' error
With each successive change I got fewer and fewer errors until they finally all disappeared.
I switched out the alert box from 'wxadvisory.php' to 'AtomArray.php' as per Curly's instructions and added the alerts to the menubar just so they'll be visible on all pages. I'm anxious to see how they work. Perhaps I was a bit ambitious in including the contiguous counties, but I'll have to see how it works before I decide on any more changes.
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Looking good Sunday night. Watches and warnings showing on your main page. :-)
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Looking good Sunday night. Watches and warnings showing on your main page. :-)
Thanks, Tony. Mother nature is kicking up her heels around here this evening! She's giving Curly's Atom Alerts scripts a good test.