My point is those that study climate paleontology say its much more involved with many factors and nothing is going to stop climate change its been cycling millions of years without mans involvement.
but no one has said the climate does not change
you have cycles on top of cycles, short term, long term, etc
some reinforce each other, some cancel each other, etc
with global warming, those cycles are still there, but you have a background warming offset
NO I said the climate is changing
so people in this thread do acknowledge that the climate is currently warming
but some think its just a natural cycle
if it is a natural cycle, then it should go up and then down, ie a cycle
time will tell if the trend changes to cooling
if the globe is still warming 15 years from now, what will you say then?..that it just be a long term natural warmer cycle we are in..just will have to wait longer for it to peak?