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Offline nincehelser

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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2018, 06:46:22 PM »
So you cant even call and talk to support now?

Looks like that's the plan.  It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

I'm guessing most younger customers won't care about not using voice.  Some older folks are going to have conniptions.

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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2018, 06:56:13 PM »
What a joke!
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2018, 08:56:51 PM »
I don't really have "an oar in this stream" since I am not an Acu-Rite customer, so they don't "owe" me anything. I have been waiting (patiently, more or less) for over a year and a half now to see how the Atlas Elite fares in customer satisfaction before I decide what to buy. And I have posted in this forum and the Acu-Rite Community Forum about the frustrations of how Acu-Rite made the big announcement about the Atlas Elite, and then provided almost no information about the progress, status, price, release date, etc. to those of us who were interested and kept asking. I actually respected to some degree how they accepted our complaints and criticisms in their Community Forum without removing or editing our critical posts. But their silence and lack of transparency about the status of the Atlas product has been more telling by orders of magnitude than the product announcement itself.

So this development is pretty sad for Acu-Rite IMO  ... removing methods for potential and real customers to contact them for information and support is not a sign of a healthy company.  No phone or online support? Having to contact them through Facebook? Wow! Is that arrogance, stupidity or both?

No thanks! I have been patient, but I am moving on.

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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2018, 09:14:36 PM »
No phone or online support? Having to contact them through Facebook? Wow! Is that arrogance, stupidity or both?

They have online support through live chat on their website.  There's also email.  You don't have to use Facebook.

It also looks like they are in the process of adding new help and support features to their website.  I've never noticed the big "Help" button in the lower right corner before, so I'm assuming that's new.  Press it and it pops up a "Leave A Message" dialog.  I wonder if it might do something different during business hours.

The "Submit a Request" on the support page also looks revamped.
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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2018, 09:24:31 PM »
Thanks George ... good to know that there are still some other methods for contact. Competition is good and I hope they find success with the Atlas.

Too late for me tho, time to look elsewhere.
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2018, 09:57:57 PM »
Business hours *where*?  Typed chat support versus phone support is a technique used to employ tech support folks who don't speak clear English as a primary language.....
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2018, 10:14:55 PM »
And they are celebrating 75 long years! ...plastered on the top of their homepage.

Hey, that's how long I thought my 5in1 and SmartHub were going to last!  :shock:

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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2018, 02:49:27 PM »
George....Since you seem to be well connected with Acurite, maybe you can suggest that they make to old forum posts available.  They can lock the forum, but there is a lot of good information our there.....RDK

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« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2018, 03:23:31 PM »
George....Since you seem to be well connected with Acurite, maybe you can suggest that they make to old forum posts available.  They can lock the forum, but there is a lot of good information our there.....RDK

I'll give it a try, but it's probably a long-shot.  The forum was hosted on a third-party platform. 

I imagine Acurite has a copy of all the content, but probably no way to easily bring it up on their own website.

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« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2018, 05:47:07 PM »
George....Since you seem to be well connected with Acurite, maybe you can suggest that they make to old forum posts available.  They can lock the forum, but there is a lot of good information our there.....RDK

I'll give it a try, but it's probably a long-shot.  The forum was hosted on a third-party platform. 

I imagine Acurite has a copy of all the content, but probably no way to easily bring it up on their own website.

Thanks, George. A long shot is better than no shot.

I availed myself of the solutions in the forum, several times, which left me time to be my grumpy old man self.  ;)

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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2018, 08:10:45 PM »
George....Since you seem to be well connected with Acurite, maybe you can suggest that they make to old forum posts available.  They can lock the forum, but there is a lot of good information our there.....RDK
I thought I might be able to get to the content of the Community Forum using the Wayback Machine archive. It looked promising, as I could pull up a list of the forum threads, but I could not expand any of the threads to get at the full content.
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2018, 05:00:42 AM »
I'm not surprised they shut down.  Every since the disaster of product, support and PR that was the Hub, it was mostly negative comments.  Now they can avoid that and deal with new victims individually.

BTW: still waiting for response on my 3 different enquiries via email - more than 6 months now - I chase every few weeks..., their website does not work in EU any more (been closed for months now due to GDPR reasons), and I tried to go on the "live" chat during US hours last night, I was 19 in queue, after 3 hours I was up to 17.  Screw that.

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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2018, 09:56:05 AM »
There wasn't any choice as far as Acurite having to upgrade the hub for the new myacurite and then discontinue it to be ready for the Atlas, and still be able to use legacy sensors. The old backyard weather was past it's time. The hub became obsolete from what it was originally intended. The old 15 minute updates were not good. Now you have instant updates, and a new Access that has a lot more to come I expect. Time will tell. I think first the smarthub has to be disconnected from myacurite altogether, and that will happen next year.
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2018, 11:22:43 AM »
I'm not surprised they shut down.  Ever since the disaster of product, support and PR that was the Hub, it was mostly negative comments.  Now they can avoid that and deal with new victims individually.

BTW: still waiting for response on my 3 different enquiries via email - more than 6 months now - I chase every few weeks..., their website does not work in EU any more (been closed for months now due to GDPR reasons), and I tried to go on the "live" chat during US hours last night, I was 19 in queue, after 3 hours I was up to 17.  Screw that.

I also tried following up with my un-responded to months-long support requests. Their email auto-responder came back with “no subject” in the subject line so that was not well thought out.

The chat queue for me was at 4 and it took about 25 minutes to start the chat.

Regarding my non-working RMAed Access (dropped connection issue from day one): “Looking at your previous case log, the Development Team is still looking into this for you. Once we have more information you will be updated via Email.”

They then promptly ended the chat and did not allow me to ask a follow-up question as to the ETA for a fix and if my warranty would be extended for the downtime. Then when I did follow-up: “I do not have an update regarding the Access functionality at this point, however, each case is documented in our system and will be looked at if you have any warranty issues in the future.”

When asked about a refund: “We do offer a 90-day return policy if the item was purchased from AcuRite directly.”  So, by waiting for a fix, you are out of luck in getting a refund if you wish to return it if you waited for more than the 90 days. Their official response: “I apologize, we cannot offer a refund after the 90 days.”

Their final solution was: “Have you tried rotating the Access like this: if the Ethernet port is 12 o'clock and the blue light is 6 O'clock, between 6 and 12 facing the 5in1 outside provides the best reception?” After the hours I spent already on the Access, that reply was kind of upsetting. “At this point, the Development Team will reach out to you when there is more information to provide. I apologize that I do not have more for you at this time.”

So, it sounds like they still do not have a fix in the pipeline for those of us with the Access dropping connection issue and if you waited for a fix for more than 90 days like I did, you cannot return your Access for a refund.

I was all in for the Atlas/Elite when it was announced. I even maxed out my other sensors that work great with my SmartHub in anticipation for the new weather station. I feel like I am now stuck with a lemon. My 5-1 is showing its age and am ready to move on to a better station (with Macintosh supported software).
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2018, 12:07:31 PM »
You can get a refund from your credit card company. I do it all the time. Amex is the best in dealing with these types of merchants.

I'm sure some Platinum Visa and MC offer the same types of protection.

Some of the services I get with Amex:
- 90 day accident protection, even if you break it they give you the money back
- Most everything carries a 1 year warranty....Amex will double it up to one additional year. If the item has a 3 year warranty, well now you have 4 years. With a crappy merchant within the first year if I'm not happy I wait for the 1 year anniversary when the Amex extended warranty kicks in ...then Amex pays me back.

These are all free services for anything you buy....I don't have to pay extra.
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2018, 05:32:29 PM »
As far as warranties go, Acurite is very good about fixing things outside of the warranty period if it appears to be a design problem.

A number of early 5n1s with defective humidity sensors (pre-SHT21) were replaced out-of-warranty. 

They did the same for the defective aspiration fan motors of a few years back.

They also stepped up and replaced SmartHUBs that didn't update properly... again, even if it was out-of-warranty.

Acurite is also upping the warranty on the Atlas sensor (just the outdoor portion) to 2 years.



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« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2018, 06:50:05 PM »
Companies that kill CRM are  showing the death rattle of  going OOS.
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« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2018, 06:56:33 PM »
Companies that kill CRM are  showing the death rattle of  going OOS.

Nobody's killing CRM.

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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2018, 07:21:48 PM »
Yeah, well I tried about a half dozen times to get the new  box and the reply was crickets.  So come February, the 5-1 is no longer going to be connected to the Net.  Chaney is toast.
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2018, 08:46:50 PM »
I doubt Chaney is toast. They sell a lot of products:
 
Primex Overview from Glassdoor.ca:
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Headquarters Lake Geneva, WI (US)
Size51 to 200 employees
Founded 2008
Type Company - Private
Industry Computer Hardware & Software
Revenue $25 to $50 million (USD) per year
Primex is the leading provider of environmental monitoring and time synchronization technologies designed to help facility managers improve productivity, efficiencies and accountability.
Although Primex has their roots in wireless clock synchronization, their growing portfolio has expanded to include a variety of solutions and platforms designed to simplify common facility tasks including:
Continuous Temperature Monitoring alerts for temperature-sensitive assets
Automated Room Temperature and Humidity Monitoring solutions
Clock Synchronization systems
Primex has over 14,500 customers in 26 countries across the globe, including more than 10,000 schools and 30% of the healthcare organizations registered with the
American Hospital Association. Overall, more than 1,000,000 Primex devices are improving environmental monitoring worldwide.
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IMO:
Too bad they can't answer a phone when a customer has a problem.
Too bad they are screwing all their customers who own SmartHubs.
Too bad they tried to extort $40 plus shipping from legacy SmartHub owners just to be able to keep their investments from becoming practically worthless.

That's a CRM strategy that doesn't appear to be too concerned about a relatively small number of unhappy pws owners.

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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2018, 05:51:17 AM »
They sent me a product panel survey the other day polling for the marketability of a weather camera of some sort.  I think that it's a great idea, so that I can stare at the empty mast where my Elite should have been hanging by now.....  #-o
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« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2018, 07:50:22 AM »
It's too bad the forum was closed down. Certainly a double edged sword. If used correctly, it was a good way to solve issues. Although, it often became a place for people to just complain and drag down threads.
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2018, 09:13:49 AM »
Ambient Weather closed down their forum too a while back. I think I remember reading that their lawyers advised them to shut it down. Not only that but Ed from Ambient Weather stopped posting in this forum. I think they advised him to do that too.

I don't think it is about not wanting to help the customers. I think from a company perspective it is best to deal with the individual customer one on one in private. You don't want to air your dirty laundry of problems for the world to see.

But when things are already very bad like what happened with Weather Underground then the opposite is true. The company then needs to open up and share more and be more interactive with what they are doing to improve things and to ask for feedback. Slowly Weather Underground is getting back on track after having completely derailed. WU is slowly winning back our trust in them. But if in a year or so things aren't much much better then the backlash will start again. And at that point the company should evaluate their position and messaging.

When a company is well regarded then their customers are their best advocates. A strong company like Apple can if they wanted have an open forum for their customers. But a company that is doing poorly, slow sales, great customer dissatisfaction, delayed product launches, well then it isn't in their best interest to be so open.

An open company forum needs to draw in happy customers with ideas to share on how they use the product.  If it is just a tool for those that have problems and complaints then it is a disservice to the company.

Just my two cents.
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Re: Acurite closes community forum?
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2018, 10:06:34 AM »
Ambient Weather closed down their forum too a while back. I think I remember reading that their lawyers advised them to shut it down. Not only that but Ed from Ambient Weather stopped posting in this forum. I think they advised him to do that too.

I hadn't heard that, but it makes sense.

I've noticed a number of industry people have seemed to "clam up" in recent years and don't speak as publicly as they used to.

The big turning point on the Acurite forum came when some users started posting pornographic and racist images.  The hammer came down hard and many were silenced.

Nothing was the same after that.  The usual support reps (all female) cut their activity waaaay back.  It's not hard to imagine why.

The rest is history...
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« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2018, 10:41:46 AM »
It's always someone else's fault.

 

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