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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2011, 11:48:14 PM »
Temps without any relationship to DewPt don't mean a whole a lot, especially in hotter areas.


Yup! The desert is a different creature when you consider all other factors.

While I lived in Vegas (Mojave Desert), the 110+ days were hot - no doubt - but not hotter than some of the 105s I get in southern NM (Chihuahua Desert). Even 95 can be two different worlds depending on the month out here. Before Monsoon, it's great and I'll be working in the yard all day long and feeling comfortable. Once July-August rolls along and the DP & RH jump up, 95 can be unbearable to be out in let alone work in.

I've only driven thru the Sonora Desert but it's still hot there  :shock:


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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2011, 01:12:57 AM »
I think another factor that needs to be considered is how acclimated one has become to the temperatures of a region.

For example, when I first moved here from Buffalo, New York even dry low humidity 100 degree weather was HOT!  Now, it's no big deal.

On the other end of the spectrum I would get the biggest kick out of people wearing heavy coats when the temperatures dropped
into the upper 40 to 50 degree range.  :-) 

Now, sad to say, I even grab a heavier jacket during those "chilly" winter days!   :roll:


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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2011, 02:02:13 AM »
 
I think another factor that needs to be considered is how acclimated one has become to the temperatures of a region.
For example, when I first moved here from Buffalo, New York even dry low humidity 100 degree weather was HOT!  Now, it's no big deal.
On the other end of the spectrum I would get the biggest kick out of people wearing heavy coats when the temperatures dropped
into the upper 40 to 50 degree range.  :-)  Now, sad to say, I even grab a heavier jacket during those "chilly" winter days!   :roll:
   
   Excellent point!  Today's 102*F, a new record, was a rare thing around here.  We have not had a day over 100*F since 1995! Yes we have had many days in the 90's but not many with heat indexes of 118*F.  A person can become aclimatized to such weather but it would take quite a lot of time.  Even some people around here, who used to live in Florida 10 or more years ago and were used to this kind of weather down there, find they are not as accustomed to it as they once were.  It was a real shock to go outside today into that "soup"!  Thankfully it is not supposed to go over 100 again but will be in the 90's thru Monday at least according to the forecast.  Now that will seem much cooler to everyone. ;)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2011, 06:15:15 AM »
I think another factor that needs to be considered is how acclimated one has become to the temperatures of a region.

For example, when I first moved here from Buffalo, New York even dry low humidity 100 degree weather was HOT!  Now, it's no big deal.

On the other end of the spectrum I would get the biggest kick out of people wearing heavy coats when the temperatures dropped
into the upper 40 to 50 degree range.  :-) 

Now, sad to say, I even grab a heavier jacket during those "chilly" winter days!   :roll:


Just like the locals over here. Some mornings when the temps dip down in the low 70's you'll see many riding their motorcycles around with heavy coats, gloves, etc.  :lol:

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2011, 06:29:34 AM »
Just like the locals over here. Some mornings when the temps dip down in the low 70's you'll see many riding their motorcycles around with heavy coats, gloves, etc.  :lol:

A coat in the low 70's ... yikes. Low 70's is like a summer morning for us here. The locals from your area would be complaining if they were here now, about 8:30pm local time here and it's currently about 46 F and chilly outside with a dew point of 28 F.
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2011, 06:34:10 AM »
I went to school in Quebec.  December temps can be -10 to -20C... got used to it after while.  One xmas I went to London UK as my girlfriends parents were living there. Temps were +5 to +10, but it was so damp it seemed it was impossible to stay warm.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2011, 01:05:44 PM »
I think another factor that needs to be considered is how acclimated one has become to the temperatures of a region.

For example, when I first moved here from Buffalo, New York even dry low humidity 100 degree weather was HOT!  Now, it's no big deal.

On the other end of the spectrum I would get the biggest kick out of people wearing heavy coats when the temperatures dropped
into the upper 40 to 50 degree range.  :-) 

Now, sad to say, I even grab a heavier jacket during those "chilly" winter days!   :roll:


Quite true! When I moved there in Sept '81 from Long Island, it would still hit low 100s. Hot, yes but not uncomfortable at all. That winter I was still in short sleeves on graveyard and it felt great! Next summer was a treat. It never felt too hot to me. Same with the winter.

Everybody kept saying "Don't worry - your blood will thin and you'll start feeling it". It took quite a few years for it to happen but it did. Tho' in the winters, I think I only wore my "everyday NY winter jacket" twice over the 25 years there.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2011, 01:16:39 PM »
Oddly enough I found a place that meets your weather parameters, but not sure about the other variables.   I think the DSL / 1/2 miles to nearest neighbour might be the hard one to pair up, you never now.

Surprisingly, The Canary Islands.

Andrew

Now if I could only find a place where the temps were always between 45 and 75 all year long with low humidity - rural, no neighbors for at least a 1/2 mile, cell service, DSL, near enough to a town to make getting supplies easy...............

PM me if you find such a place.  :-)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2011, 02:42:18 AM »
I've thought of another question based on what a few of you have mentioned.


What sort of Heat/Cool do you get, Dry Heat, Humid Heat, etc.??

Here we get a Dry Cool during Winter and a Humid Heat during summer.
In winter humidity is typically between 20% and 70%, does get up to 100% sometimes on really calm nights.
In summer because it is nearly always raining the humidity typically ranges between 70% and 100%.
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- Chilly mornings (anything between 30 F and 45 F mostly)
- Pleasant days (anything between 60 F and 70 F mostly)
- Dry, low humidity
- Very little rainfall (usually not much more than 2 inches)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2016, 07:31:50 PM »
Interesting thread...

OK, so if I disregard the effect of wind and humidity

For me:

Very hot: above 35C (95F)
Too hot: above 30C (86F)
Relatively cold: below 0C (32F)
Very cold: below -15C (5F)

The warmest T I remember here recently was 40C (104F) and coldest probably somewhere around -25C (-13F)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2016, 08:10:19 PM »
I can actually bear quite a lot and I am a bit weird in that I wear the same clothes all yr round :D I only take out my winter jacket when it gets below -10C (14F), but I hardly ever wear a T-shirt even when it is above 25C (77F). I even wear the same shoes :D, not because I dont have any other, I just dont think about these things, I dont mind if it is hot or cold :D Unless it is extreme. Just came from work 2 hours ago. It is 2AM here and snowed half inch of snow, but it is only around freezing point, so no point in wearing a jacket :D

One thing I hate though is when it is cold inside... I dont mind cold outside, in fact I love it, the colder the better :D But I hate when it is cold inside - especially that feeling when you sit inside a car that has been standing outside over night when it was freezing and you just sit there and have to wait before it warms up :D

In the summer the problem is that no-one here really has A/C, except for like shopping centers or government offices. We don't even have A/C in my office, so when the temp in my flat, which is just one room and right under the roof, does not drop below 90F for over 2 weeks, its not very comfortable either :)

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2016, 08:24:52 PM »
 During summer have to open windows to warm up the cabin. Logs suppress the outside heat  to where no A/C is needed. log thickness is 10 inch. they hold the heat well in the winter even  during the 30 below stuff we had  stove was on low burn. Keep  rooms at around 65. Bedroom around 60 deg.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2016, 08:31:10 PM »
My flat unfortunaly, is a tiny one-room flat just under the roof. In the summer, as soon as it gets slightly warmer the temp inside rises quickly and does not drop even during night. Likewise, in the winter, if I turn the heating off, it will drop from 24C (75) to 15C (59) in a matter of a few hours... Summer is more of a problem because as I said, I like cold and I dont like cold indoor, but you can always just turn up the heating, but when its hot... not much you can do here... same with clothes. If you are really cold, you just put on more layers, but when you are too hot, you can only take off as much clothes :D

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2016, 10:17:23 PM »
Here are the "feels like" temperatures used for the "Comfort Index" on my page. (All are °F)

   120°   Dangerously Hot
   119°   Dangerously Hot
   118°   Dangerously Hot
   117°   Dangerously Hot
   116°   Dangerously Hot
   115°   Dangerously Hot
   114°   Dangerously Hot
   113°   Dangerously Hot
   112°   Dangerously Hot
   111°   Dangerously Hot
   110°   Dangerously Hot
   109°   Extremely Hot
   108°   Extremely Hot
   107°   Extremely Hot
   106°   Extremely Hot
   105°   Extremely Hot
   104°   Extremely Hot
   103°   Extremely Hot
   102°   Extremely Hot
   101°   Extremely Hot
   100°   Extremely Hot
   99°   Uncomfortably Hot
   98°   Uncomfortably Hot
   97°   Uncomfortably Hot
   96°   Uncomfortably Hot
   95°   Uncomfortably Hot
   94°   Hot
   93°   Hot
   92°   Hot
   91°   Hot
   90°   Hot
   89°   Very Warm
   88°   Very Warm
   87°   Very Warm
   86°   Very Warm
   85°   Very Warm
   84°   Warm
   83°   Warm
   82°   Warm
   81°   Warm
   80°   Warm
   79°   Comfortable
   78°   Comfortable
   77°   Comfortable
   76°   Comfortable
   75°   Comfortable
   74°   Very Comfortable
   73°   Very Comfortable
   72°   Very Comfortable
   71°   Very Comfortable
   70°   Very Comfortable
   69°   Very Comfortable
   68°   Very Comfortable
   67°   Very Comfortable
   66°   Very Comfortable
   65°   Very Comfortable
   64°   Comfortable
   63°   Comfortable
   62°   Comfortable
   61°   Comfortable
   60°   Comfortable
   59°   Slightly Cool
   58°   Slightly Cool
   57°   Slightly Cool
   56°   Slightly Cool
   55°   Slightly Cool
   54°   Cool
   53°   Cool
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   46°   Cool
   45°   Cool
   44°   Very Cool
   43°   Very Cool
   42°   Very Cool
   41°   Very Cool
   40°   Very Cool
   39°   Cold
   38°   Cold
   37°   Cold
   36°   Cold
   35°   Cold
   34°   Cold
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   32°   Cold
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   23°   Cold
   22°   Cold
   21°   Cold
   20°   Cold
   19°   Uncomfortably Cold
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   17°   Uncomfortably Cold
   16°   Uncomfortably Cold
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   14°   Uncomfortably Cold
   13°   Uncomfortably Cold
   12°   Uncomfortably Cold
   11°   Uncomfortably Cold
   10°   Uncomfortably Cold
   9°   Very Cold
   8°   Very Cold
   7°   Very Cold
   6°   Very Cold
   5°   Very Cold
   4°   Very Cold
   3°   Very Cold
   2°   Very Cold
   1°   Very Cold
   0°   Very Cold
   -1°   Extremely Cold
   -2°   Extremely Cold
   -3°   Extremely Cold
   -4°   Extremely Cold
   -5°   Extremely Cold
   -6°   Extremely Cold
   -7°   Extremely Cold
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   -9°   Extremely Cold
   -10°   Extremely Cold
   -11°   Extremely Cold
   -12°   Extremely Cold
   -13°   Extremely Cold
   -14°   Extremely Cold
   -15°   Extremely Cold
   -16°   Dangerously Cold
   -17°   Dangerously Cold
   -18°   Dangerously Cold
   -19°   Dangerously Cold
   -20°   Dangerously Cold


...and the dew points used for the "Humidity Index".

   85°   Oppressively Humid
   84°   Oppressively Humid
   83°   Oppressively Humid
   82°   Oppressively Humid
   81°   Oppressively Humid
   80°   Oppressively Humid
   79°   Oppressively Humid
   78°   Oppressively Humid
   77°   Oppressively Humid
   76°   Oppressively Humid
   75°   Oppressively Humid
   74°   Very Humid
   73°   Very Humid
   72°   Very Humid
   71°   Very Humid
   70°   Very Humid
   69°   Humid
   68°   Humid
   67°   Humid
   66°   Humid
   65°   Humid
   64°   Slightly Humid
   63°   Slightly Humid
   62°   Slightly Humid
   61°   Slightly Humid
   60°   Slightly Humid
   59°   Comfortable
   58°   Comfortable
   57°   Comfortable
   56°   Comfortable
   55°   Comfortable
   54°   Very Comfortable
   53°   Very Comfortable
   52°   Very Comfortable
   51°   Very Comfortable
   50°   Very Comfortable
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2016, 04:15:27 PM »
In the winter time, the "cold" most often depends for me on windchill. Our winters are rather mild (for our latitude), with narrow temperature ranges mostly between -10 and +10°C (10-50°F).
If it is far below freezing, the wind is usually calm, so you don't really feel the cold.
But if it is a few degrees above freezing (C) with a wind of 30 mph and high humidity, this can often feel bone-chilling cold, so gloves can be necessary despite the actual temperature being above freezing.

Likewise, in the summer the dew point decides whether i consider it hot or not. If we have a 32°C/90°F day with a dewpoint of 10°C/50°F, this can actually feel quite pleasant
whereas a muggy day with 27°C/80°F and a dewpoint of 21°C/70°F can be quite uncomfortable.

As for the clothing, in summer i usually go out without a jacket unless it is windy or rainy and the temperature is well below 18°C/65°F. If its above 22°C/72°F then it's shorts time for me (unless i have to be at work). For winter season i have lighter and heavier jackets, if its above 10°C/50°F and the wind is calm then i sometimes go out without a jacket as well.

 


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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2016, 05:21:22 PM »
Here's my answers disregarding wind and/or humidity/dewpoint. Bear in mind I'm from a non-coastal region of the South in the US (Upstate SC)!

All in ºF
>100º - Very Hot (with high humidity/dewpoint. 100º to 105º or so isn't too bad with low humidity/dewpoint)
93º-100º - Hot
85º-93º - Very Warm
80º-85º - Warm
60º-80º - Comfortable
50º-60º - Cool (this range is comfortable with high humidity/dewpoint and low wind)
40º-50º - Chilly (cool to very cool)
15º-40º - Cold
0º-15º - Very Cold
<0º - Extremely Cold (I've never felt an air temp below zero, but have felt -10º wind chill)

Definitely interesting to see the different responses!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2016, 05:24:23 PM by alexstaar »
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2016, 05:50:22 PM »
>105F hot.
<75F cold.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2016, 06:12:59 PM »
Zero and above = warm
-30 and down just right.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2016, 07:04:49 PM »
Would be interesting to actually change this question a little bit:

What temperature do you consider comfortable indoor?

Because I for example like cold, but inside I hate cold. I love very low temps, but I love when you then come inside and it is warm. Probably the worst is when you sit inside a completely frozen car :D I hate that. I would much more prefer just being outside in such situation. Cold outside is fine, cold inside, no... not for me.

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2016, 07:42:45 PM »
Would be interesting to actually change this question a little bit:

What temperature do you consider comfortable indoor?

Because I for example like cold, but inside I hate cold. I love very low temps, but I love when you then come inside and it is warm. Probably the worst is when you sit inside a completely frozen car :D I hate that. I would much more prefer just being outside in such situation. Cold outside is fine, cold inside, no... not for me.

Inside comfort for me would be 68ºF to 70ºF in the winter with the heat on; 70ºF to 73ºF with the A/C on in the summer.
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2016, 07:54:00 PM »
I usually keep my thermostat at 23C (73F), once it drops to 22C it heats up again to 23. THe problem is that I live in a one-room flat, just under the roof, all walls are outside walls and to make things worse, it is very poorly insulated.
So in the summer, as soon as the temperature rises for just a day or two, it immediately heats up to around 30C (85F) and stays like that for weeks... and of course no A/C...
In contrast, right now, I usually turn of heating when I go to bed, which is around 4:30AM, and the inside temp is close to 23(73). When I get up at 8:30 it is usually around 19C (66F) and remember that it is still not that cold outside, only around freezing point. And I leave it off and go to work. I can watch the temp when Im at work on my station, by 3PM Im usually down to 15C (59F)! It really changes very quickly. At that point the heating sets off again and maintains the T around this until about 9PM, which is when I have it set to start heating at maximum and by the time I get home around 11:30PM or midnight, it is back to 23 (73).
But winter is obviously not such a bit problem, if Im cold I just turn up the thermostat... if it is too hot, however, there is not much you can do... and last year we had an extreme heat wave in July/August and I remember the temperature in my flat did not drop below 32C (90F) for over 2 weeks! Including night-time! And in my office it was slightly better but I also dont have A/C there...

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2016, 11:37:05 PM »
I usually keep my thermostat at 23C (73F), once it drops to 22C it heats up again to 23. THe problem is that I live in a one-room flat, just under the roof, all walls are outside walls and to make things worse, it is very poorly insulated.
So in the summer, as soon as the temperature rises for just a day or two, it immediately heats up to around 30C (85F) and stays like that for weeks... and of course no A/C...
In contrast, right now, I usually turn of heating when I go to bed, which is around 4:30AM, and the inside temp is close to 23(73). When I get up at 8:30 it is usually around 19C (66F) and remember that it is still not that cold outside, only around freezing point. And I leave it off and go to work. I can watch the temp when Im at work on my station, by 3PM Im usually down to 15C (59F)! It really changes very quickly. At that point the heating sets off again and maintains the T around this until about 9PM, which is when I have it set to start heating at maximum and by the time I get home around 11:30PM or midnight, it is back to 23 (73).
But winter is obviously not such a bit problem, if Im cold I just turn up the thermostat... if it is too hot, however, there is not much you can do... and last year we had an extreme heat wave in July/August and I remember the temperature in my flat did not drop below 32C (90F) for over 2 weeks! Including night-time! And in my office it was slightly better but I also dont have A/C there...

Your flat does a fairly decent job maintaining that temp without the heat on considering it's around 32ºF outside. The furnace (heat pump) at my house starts running continuously (i.e. without turning off) once the outside temp gets below about 32ºF to maintain an inside temp of 69ºF.
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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2016, 02:21:35 AM »
It's a relative thing, when it "warms" up from 60C below to 40C below it can be called a heat wave and time to take some clothing off otherwise you perspire which can then freeze. Similar in places like Vietnam when it dropped from 140F to 100F time to put a coat on as one would start start to shiver 

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2016, 07:27:30 AM »
140F, -60F.... you are talking about the apparent temp right? :D

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Re: At what temperatures do you consider it to be Cold or Hot?
« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2016, 03:26:56 PM »
Yes. He is spent time there in Nam and when it cooled off lot of guys bundled up. Can see that effect when was in California. They be all bundled up at 60 degrees F and those of us from Alaska be walking around in shirt sleeves. Here coming from 50 to 60 below it like an heat wave. You dress down in summer clothing till you adjust to the temperature. After 2 weeks at 35 below to go outside it just slip on an vest and do what ever anything else heavier I start sweating and that is an no no in cold clime. Get wet you get dead.

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