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Offline arrowspace90

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How does it work?
« on: January 29, 2013, 01:28:36 PM »
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I bought VVP so that I could have my station download to VWS and WeatherLink at the same time.

My station is connected to my computer via USB.

VVP says it has no instructions that can be found, and my VVP window says that my trial version has expired even though
I registered it.

Can someone tell me how to use it?

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 02:46:07 PM »
Look in the VVP folder and there are some PDF help files.

Run VVP as administrator and then enter your registration code. That should make the expired warning go away.  You can run it normally after that.

Have you installed a virtual com port driver such as com o com   or Lantronix?


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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 03:20:03 PM »
You will need a virtual serial port splitter like N8VBvCom (32 bit systems) or Com0Com for (64 bit systems). Check out this thread. You will see some screen grabs of how to set up the 32 bit system side.

http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=15056.0

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 03:46:30 PM »
You will need a virtual serial port splitter like N8VBvCom (32 bit systems) or Com0Com for (64 bit systems). Check out this thread. You will see some screen grabs of how to set up the 32 bit system side.

http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=15056.0

No, I will read up.  I need a "serial port splitter" even though I am connected usb?

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 03:48:27 PM »
Here are what my main and settings screens look like.

well, mine are all blank.  I know zero about this software.

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 03:49:07 PM »
Look in the VVP folder and there are some PDF help files.

Run VVP as administrator and then enter your registration code. That should make the expired warning go away.  You can run it normally after that.

Have you installed a virtual com port driver such as com o com   or Lantronix?

Thank you. I got it to show "registered".  com o com??

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2013, 04:03:08 PM »
You must install and setup a virtual com port software. It is seperate from VVP. A sieral port spliter is a piece of hardware. You do not want that.

Look here for third party tools.

http://www.softwx.com/downloads.html

Your VVP screen will be blank untill you fill in the required information on com ports or ip numbers.

You need the virtual com ports before you can do anything.   http://www.softwx.com/weather/virtualvp/VirtualSerialPorts64bitHelp.pdf

I use com o com   Are you running a 32 or 64 bit system?

Read the Virtualvp help file in the  vvp folder.   http://www.softwx.com/weather/virtualvp/VirtualVPHelp.pdf

I do not know about VWS but you can run WL, Cumulus, VP Live in the TCPIP mode and then you do not need the com ports.

VVP is an extrememly flexable program that can do many things.

A quick look at the VWS manual and it does not appear to run in TCPIP mode so you will need virtual com port program.

Depending on how you setup the com ports your VVP setup should look something like this

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2013, 04:56:29 PM »
Here is an older version of the VVP help file. Much stuff-under-the hood has been upgraded, but the explanations on how it all works is still very valuable!

I had a lot of trouble setting mine up initially, that is until I found this!


http://primrosebank.net/weather/VirtualVPUserGuide.pdf
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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2013, 12:15:53 PM »
Ok, total failure so far.

Some of the instructions keep talking about the serial/com ports.  Does this apply if I am connected via USB?

This is very complicated to set up without very precise instructions.
I downloaded com-o-com and set up the virtual ports as described in the instructions.  But I don't know if I am using instructions for the correct configuration.
I am running VWS now via VSB on a 64 bit Windows 7 computer.

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2013, 12:18:24 PM »
Here are what my main and settings screens look like.

WL and VWS appear on my settings screen in red blocks, showing plainly they are not set up correctly.
I am not a computer programmer and I need very precise, step by step instructions for using this program
with a USB connection to a 64 bit computer.

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2013, 12:33:16 PM »
Here is my communications page.  What I have here is wrong.

How should I fix it??  How do I know which com port to select?

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2013, 12:55:49 PM »
Ok where you have com 4 under Vantage pro console. That should be the same comport that you use for WL if you were not using VVP.  That is your primary com port. It should be the same com port that WL finds using the auto find fuction if connected directly WL to console.  It could be anything between 1 and probably 10.  

Does VVP connect to the console  as shown in step 5 of the VVP PDF help file?

How you are connecting the console to VVP Or WL or any other program has nothing to do with your logger being a USB logger.  I repeat   sieral ports and com ports are not the same thing.

Asuming that you have com o com set up correctly  Wl should now be told to use Com 6 and VWS should be told to use Com 7.

WL com setting should look like this:

Now lets back up.  Did you follow the instructions on page 15 of the WL manual and set up the logger in the serial mode.

You must run the logger in the serial mode even though you are using a USB port on your computer.    If you did not do that then third party programs that use comports aint gonna work.  There is a BIG warning block about this in the manual.


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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2013, 02:08:10 PM »
It appears that VWS does work in TCPIP mode so if the com ports are giving you problems you may want to use TCP mode.   Look here

http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=8010.msg87139#msg87139

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2013, 03:12:39 PM »
ok, thank you for bothering to show me this stuff.

I will attempt to configure as shown on the link you sent.

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2013, 03:25:05 PM »
I set it all the way the link screens looked.

Now WL and VWS are saying communications error.

None of it works.  It's very complicated stuff.

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2013, 03:28:51 PM »
I took WL and VWS out of the USB links.

Also VVP.  I reset them to the tcip/ip settings.

Nothing communicated when I did that.

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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2013, 03:31:58 PM »
Did you or  did you not in the intial setup set the logger to serial mode.  If not it ain't gonna work untill you unistall the express usb drivers and start over.

All of the loggers are serial loggers.   The only difference is that the USB logger has a built in serial to USB converter.

You do not want to run it in the USB mode.

All of your settings most say serial.

Even using the TCPIP mode     you must have the logger set to serial mode.

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2013, 03:44:45 PM »
Ok, well I am confused.  The screen shots you linked last showed 3 screens.
The WL screen, the VWS screen, and the VVP screen.
On those, they were all showing TCP/IP.

The data-logger goes into Weather Link, and from there to VWS.
So, you are saying, I need to go back to WL and change the setting there to "serial"?

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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2013, 03:48:46 PM »
You did not answer my question.  Read page 15 of the WL install manual.    If you disregarded the warning block that I showed you above and set the logger up in USB mode then    It ain't never going to work with any program except wl untill you go back and follow the instructions.

Read the manual page 15.        do like it says  once you get the LOGGER not WL set to serial things will start working.

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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2013, 04:06:25 PM »
Ok, well I am confused.  The screen shots you linked last showed 3 screens.
The WL screen, the VWS screen, and the VVP screen.
On those, they were all showing TCP/IP.

The data-logger goes into Weather Link, and from there to VWS.
So, you are saying, I need to go back to WL and change the setting there to "serial"?

It should be         console to data logger (logger set to serial mode)

logger to VVP    VVP set to connect thru  a com port (I can't tell you wich one use the auto function in WL or just try them all)

you should get the green connect line then when looking at VVP



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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2013, 04:08:26 PM »
You did not answer my question.  Read page 15 of the WL install manual.    If you disregarded the warning block that I showed you above and set the logger up in USB mode then    It ain't never going to work with any program except wl untill you go back and follow the instructions.

Read the manual page 15.        do like it says  once you get the LOGGER not WL set to serial things will start working.

Ok, I didn't answer because I didn't "get" what you were saying.
Now I just followed those directions and converted.
That done, should set WL/VWS/ and VVP to serial, or TCP?
Thank you for your patience, I found the weather software difficult to use prior to attempting to use a 3rd software.

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Re: How does it work?
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2013, 04:11:51 PM »
wow...vvp is "reading" archive data!  This has to be a positive step.

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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2013, 04:13:06 PM »
wow...vvp is "reading" archive data!  This has to be a positive step.



YES   It should work in either serial or tcp mode now.

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2013, 04:15:47 PM »
wow...vvp is "reading" archive data!  This has to be a positive step.

omg!  vvp is showing all green squares!  this is great!

YES