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Title: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: billunger on January 12, 2013, 11:05:16 AM
I have had a Vantage Vue for about a year now and about 2 days ago my console started displaying "Low Battery Transmitter 1."  The sensor is mounted at the top of my very steep roof, but we had a huge thaw yesterday and today, so i climbed up and swapped the battery with a new one.  Unfortunately, my console is still cycling through the same message.  It is receiving data, but I am worried something is going bad somewhere and we are supposed to get snow again tonight/tomorrow... which means no more roof climbing me for a few more months...

thanks in advance,
Bill
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: Bruiser on January 12, 2013, 11:21:17 AM
Was this just installed this morning?

I assume this would work on the Vantage Vue console.  If you go into Setup on Vantage Pro consoles then exit, the message should go away.  Or it shall go away after midnight when the console is on a new day.  This is assuming there are no other issues with the system...

Good luck...
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: billunger on January 12, 2013, 11:28:38 AM
I cycled through the settings and it is still displaying.  <sigh>
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: billunger on January 13, 2013, 08:50:35 AM
Hmmm.... 

Cycled through the settings and that didn't fix.

Waited until next day and still showing low battery.

I have continued to receive a signal throughout the night though, so I don't think the battery is legitimately low. 

Any thoughts?

thanks
Bill
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: moehoward4 on January 13, 2013, 12:25:33 PM
billunger.....Did you read pages 4 thru 6 in the VUE ISS manual? That may help solve your problem....just a thought
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: billunger on January 13, 2013, 12:50:30 PM
Mostly.  :-) 

Everything is working as expected:  I am receiving signals and data, but am just getting the Low Battery message on the console....
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: dalecoy on January 13, 2013, 01:38:03 PM
What brand and type of battery did you install as the replacement?  What was the voltage of the battery when you put it in?
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: billunger on January 13, 2013, 05:53:11 PM
Duracell cr123, 3v.  I am pretty sure the battery is fine as it has been dark and gray all day and no transmit issues have occurred..
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: Beaudog on January 13, 2013, 06:10:10 PM
You don't suppose you had one of those senior moments like I often do and put the old battery back in?

Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: billunger on January 13, 2013, 07:01:55 PM
Definitely not.  :-)  The old battery dropped out of the unit, down the roof, and on to the deck below....
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: billunger on January 14, 2013, 10:36:49 AM
Could the console need 24 hours to clear the warning?  I woke up this morning and checked the console to find no more low battery warning.  Strange....
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: Bruiser on January 14, 2013, 11:31:29 AM
I think it may be hit or miss.......I was hoping this indeed would happen since you were reporting a lack of Data loss which seemed to rule out a bad battery/sensor.

Here's hoping it stays true for you!
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: SLOweather on January 14, 2013, 12:53:55 PM
The console should clear at midnight. However, if you are in a hurry, going into SETUP mode and back should clear it right then.

I've had 2 or 3 of my wireless stations show a low battery warning before I think they should, and then clear in a day or 2. One of my inadvertent experiments showed that an ISS with solar would run on a low battery for about a month after the alarm first appeared, during December at 35 degrees N latitude. So I don't get too excited about replacing the battery as soon as the alert appears.

Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: billunger on January 14, 2013, 06:13:50 PM
So far so good, so I will keep my fingers crossed.  Cold and snow moved back in, so there is pretty much no way I can get back up to the sensor for a couple more months....
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: planohog on January 28, 2013, 06:17:08 PM
I have had the same warning here in dallas tx area.. The unit is about two years old, seems to be gone now. It did last a few days about mid month.  I am very happy with this unit and enjoy the high wind alarms.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: weathermedic on January 29, 2013, 06:43:54 PM
I've had my Vue up for two and a half years. After the first 4 months, the low battery transmitter message kept coming on, even with new batteries. The sensor suite stopped sending data after a couple of weeks. I called Davis and they sent me a new solar capacitor under warranty, which I replaced myself. The unit was operating fine until a couple of weeks ago when I again got the dreaded low transmitter battery 1 message on the display. The ISS stopped sending a signal at night between about 4am-8am, until the sun came up and hit the solar panel. I changed the battery (old one read 2.89 volts) but the message remained, even after the new battery was installed and I waited for the internal "reset" at midnight. The ISS still stopped sending info between about 4am-8am. I changed the battery the next day and have gotten the same results.

I contacted Davis via email and the reply I received was to change the ISS/receiver to another channel other than 1. That made no sense, so I didn't even bother (ISS is up on a peaked roof) and I called tech support. They said it seems like a problem they will have to fix in house and to send it in.

About a 3 week turnaround...ugh!
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: arrowspace90 on January 29, 2013, 08:18:01 PM
I have been reading about these low battery issues since I got my Vue in Oct. 2011.

So far I have not had the problem.  I sympathize, as I likewise have the very steep, high roof.

Sigh.  When this happens to me, I am sure it will, I will just spend the down time upgrading to the VPII.

I will send my Vue into Davis and then make a gift of it to a worthy friend.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: Jace on January 30, 2013, 05:35:55 AM
Hi I had the same problem with my Vantage Vue.

This information came to me from John D of Prodata systems here in the UK who in turn got it from Brett Lane the Davis Technical Manager.

Apparently Davis carried out a Firmware modification for the ISS SIM in Oct 2011, which lowered the threshold for the battery warning from 2.8v to 2.0v. This update cannot be carried out in the field, which means it's a factory update only.

My Vue had a Manufacturing date of E110412A060 which meant it was a 'E' Vue built on the 12th May 2011, and it had a SIM F/W version of 2.1.51, so it was built before the Oct 2011 upgrade.

So it's possible that if your Vue was manufactured before the FW upgrade you may continue to get low battery warnings even when the battery is ok.


John

Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: slatrat on March 20, 2013, 01:43:13 PM
My Vue is a little over a year old. It's been mounted on our steep pitched roof for 9 months. Starting this week, the dreaded "low battery transmitter 1" message started appearing on the console. Then two nights ago, it started the routine of not sending data between 12:00 AM and 8:00 AM.

My question is this, has anyone had success with just replacing the battery and the situation resolving permanently?

The reason I ask, is when I mount the roof climb expedition, is it even worth it to replace the battery? Or should I pull the weather station down and send it in to Davis.

Sigh - I don't like this situation.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: dalecoy on March 20, 2013, 03:26:32 PM
People who follow the instruction manual - when you get the low battery message, replace the battery - and that's successful, consider that a normal event and do not post their (successful) results.  So, tens of thousands sold, and a handful of negative reports.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: killwilly on March 21, 2013, 03:59:04 AM
My Vue is a little over a year old. It's been mounted on our steep pitched roof for 9 months. Starting this week, the dreaded "low battery transmitter 1" message started appearing on the console. Then two nights ago, it started the routine of not sending data between 12:00 AM and 8:00 AM.

My question is this, has anyone had success with just replacing the battery and the situation resolving permanently?

The reason I ask, is when I mount the roof climb expedition, is it even worth it to replace the battery? Or should I pull the weather station down and send it in to Davis.

Sigh - I don't like this situation.

Take a look at page 2 in the link below. I had the battery problem and applying the gel to the exposed contacts, did cure it for me.

The photographs were kindly posted by Rainman Weather.




http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=6535.25
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: Weather Spares on March 22, 2013, 06:26:02 PM
Perhaps the Vantage Vue console is running an old version of firmware. There was a problem with firmware prior to 2.14 (except below from 2.14 release notes)


The full firmware update is on the US Davis site http://www.davisnet.com/support/weather/downloads/software_frmwr.asp (http://www.davisnet.com/support/weather/downloads/software_frmwr.asp).
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: jmds on March 25, 2013, 09:15:26 PM
What brand and type of battery did you install as the replacement?  What was the voltage of the battery when you put it in?

there is a new firmware from Davis for this problem.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: jmds on November 10, 2017, 07:16:20 PM
Yesterday I removed the resin around the supercapacitor on my old ISS board and soldered 2 new 7.2 volts supercapacitor in paralell and now the unit is working like new and the LOW BATTERY TRANSMITTER 7
does not appear anymore on the console even without the 3 volts batter installed in the ISS.I did the same thing on my Vantage Pro2 about 4 years ago by soldering 3 supercapacitors in paralell and it has been going on since without 3 volts battery.

Reards:John
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: azchrisf on November 16, 2017, 02:22:20 AM
7.2 volts?  :shock:
I hope that's reversed!
I have a 50f 2.7v Capacitor in mine.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: jmds on November 16, 2017, 05:54:25 AM
what do you mean "I hope that's reversed "?
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: azchrisf on November 16, 2017, 11:03:17 AM
You said your running a 7.2 volt capacitor, the system is designed for a 2.7 volt.

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Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: jmds on November 16, 2017, 04:03:25 PM
I said " soldered 2 new 7.2 volts supercapacitor in parallel and not one.Go and read again
The VUE system is not designed to run with 2 capacitors as they are enclosed in epoxy resin.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: jmds on November 16, 2017, 04:44:26 PM
Sorry.My mistake .I meant  2.7 volts  and not 7.2 volts.I do not need the 4 Volts battery anymore by having two of them 2.7 volts supercap in Parallel on the ISS board.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: johnd on November 16, 2017, 04:50:31 PM
I do not need the 4 Volts battery anymore by having two of them 2.7 volts supercap in Parallel on the ISS board.

Must be quite sunny year-round where you live?
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: jmds on November 16, 2017, 05:52:36 PM
Yes .I live in Cairns/Australia which is 16 degrees south of the Equator.Sunrise 5.36  and sunset at 18.30 and it is getting longer by the week now.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: Mattk on November 16, 2017, 07:38:40 PM
Yes .I live in Cairns/Australia which is 16 degrees south of the Equator.Sunrise 5.36  and sunset at 18.30 and it is getting longer by the week now.

That will be the case until Dec 22 then things will go backwards. Without the battery what you going to do through the cyclone and wet season when there's no sun for weeks on end?
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: jmds on November 16, 2017, 11:27:03 PM
Are you smoking some funny tobaccos or something ?.My vantage Pro2 has been going without batteries for over 4 years cyclone or not.We live in the tropics and the daylight hours are nearly similar in winter and summer.Wet season or  not and we have never been without sun for weeks on end like you said.You must have been watching too many Star Treks movies.
Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: SnowHiker on November 17, 2017, 02:56:27 AM
Are you smoking some funny tobaccos or something ?.My vantage Pro2 has been going without batteries for over 4 years cyclone or not.We live in the tropics and the daylight hours are nearly similar in winter and summer.Wet season or  not and we have never been without sun for weeks on end like you said.You must have been watching too many Star Treks movies.
I take it that Australia has been misrepresented in the Star Trek movies? I don't watch them, so I'm not familiar with the time the starship crew set up Vantage Vues in or around Cairns.  Have the hostile species of humanoids that live there also been misrepresented? 

Title: Re: Vantage Vue - Low Battery Transmitter even after changing battery?
Post by: Mattk on November 17, 2017, 06:04:42 AM
Are you smoking some funny tobaccos or something ?.My vantage Pro2 has been going without batteries for over 4 years cyclone or not.We live in the tropics and the daylight hours are nearly similar in winter and summer.Wet season or  not and we have never been without sun for weeks on end like you said.You must have been watching too many Star Treks movies.
I take it that Australia has been misrepresented in the Star Trek movies? I don't watch them, so I'm not familiar with the time the starship crew set up Vantage Vues in or around Cairns.  Have the hostile species of humanoids that live there also been misrepresented?

Nah ya just gotta make allowance for some aussies who think they are the only ones who live there and take any note of the weather, the sunshine and the sun showers :)