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It's been a somewhat uphill battle, but the major miscreants are consigned to get 403-Forbidden by Apache instead of tying up PHP threads in the httpBL check (anti-spammer) or the Ban list and that has cut back the load quite a bit. I also think that 1and1 cleared up a webserver-mySQLserver connection/load issue and that has REALLY helped with responses now back into the normal range (knock wood).I'm continuing to do log analysis several times a day to look for new 'players' to be smacked down Best regards,Ken