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Title: Moving a PWS
Post by: Randall Kayfes on December 01, 2018, 11:05:15 AM
Greetings,

So I moved (16 miles as the Crow Flies) and took my PWS with me so I took the following steps;

I Checked the location on forcast.weather.gov and the location is still found at the old location but the Latitude and Longitude is correctly list to the new location...
Did I miss a step here in the process two other station move were completed successfully given the above taken steps...
Any ideas why my location hasn't changed for NWS map?
https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-111.05851113796234&lat=32.418732790609056#.XAKxKGiM9aQ

Randall
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: SteveFitz1 on December 01, 2018, 11:17:25 AM
Randall,

It looks like the location in your NWS link is Lat: 32.418732790609056 and Lon:-111.05851113796234, but the CWOP location being shown for DW4959 is Lat: 32.18523, Lon: -111.0772. I'm not sure which one is your old and new locations, but my guess is the CWOP location info hasn't propagated your changes through the system yet.

Steve
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: Jstx on December 01, 2018, 12:13:29 PM
Think it can take up to a week to work changes through CWOP-MADIS-NWS.
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: Randall Kayfes on December 01, 2018, 06:38:53 PM
Thank you all - I went to the MADIS map found my station at the old location also the LAT and LON listed also the old values.
It has been 5 days and CWOPS already has it all down correctly so I guess I will wait a little longer.
It just seemed to take so little time in my past moves - I will be more patient.

Randall
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: galfert on December 02, 2018, 07:38:38 AM
Decimal Degrees (Latitude and Longitude) with more than 6 digits past the decimal are pretty much unnecessary. Get rid of unnecessary complexity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_degrees#Precision

With 6 decimal places you have a precision of about 4 inches. You don't need more than that for weather station placement. With 7 decimal places you are at better than half an inch precision.

UPDATE: Just realized that the Latitude / Longitude in the link above was created by a map click on NWS site. I thought at first it was what was being used by the station. I'm surprised by this behavior of the NWS site.
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: Randall Kayfes on December 02, 2018, 10:32:26 AM
Well MESOWEST finally picked up on the change so their is hope NWS is next  :grin:

Randall
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: Jstx on December 02, 2018, 11:00:17 AM
Well MESOWEST finally picked up on the change so their is hope NWS is next  :grin:

Randall

Well, MesoWest-Utah pulls their data from MADIS, which for most of our PWS feeds, ingests it from CWOP-APRS. MADIS is NOAA/NWS, so any moment now it'll pop up there.
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: stoat on December 02, 2018, 01:05:04 PM
Well MESOWEST finally picked up on the change so their is hope NWS is next  :grin:

Station updates for the webpage only get pushed once a week (on Thursdays) so you are probably looking at another 4 days.
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: Old Tele man on December 02, 2018, 07:53:40 PM
Thank you all - I went to the MADIS map found my station at the old location also the LAT and LON listed also the old values.
It has been 5 days and CWOPS already has it all down correctly so I guess I will wait a little longer.
It just seemed to take so little time in my past moves - I will be more patient.

Randall
Kaymann -- Looks like NOAA/NWS/MADIS has activated your move because NWS/TUC now locates you out west by Tucson Estates (moving 'closer' to the sunsets?).
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: Randall Kayfes on December 02, 2018, 08:24:17 PM
Greetings and thanks everyone and I apologize for the impatience... If I had only waited one more day. OTM thanks again for Barometer help I while back. I used your suggestions to get my Barometer squared away from the get go this time.  BTW the Desert views are killer from my new location so when I get a little more settled in I will start posting pictures again...
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: Randall Kayfes on January 04, 2019, 10:05:40 AM
Well after two months the NWS has again placed my PWS on the map. Now when someone in my area (including me) zooms into my neighborhood they see my weather station - complete with forecast as well!

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-111.0772&lat=32.1852#.XC910lyM9aR

If only I could convince CWOP to change the location name to Tucson instead of Marana... Oh well.

Randall
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: PaulMy on January 04, 2019, 10:10:23 AM
Welcome back DW4959 Marana (D4959)


Enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: Moving a PWS
Post by: CW2274 on January 04, 2019, 02:49:46 PM
If only I could convince CWOP to change the location name to Tucson instead of Marana... Oh well.
Not sure, but probably that's something our WFO (IT Officer, Evelyn?) would have to do. Here's their # should you wish to call 520 670 5162.