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This is why I dispise MADIS!
« on: May 15, 2016, 02:54:19 PM »
This is todays MADIS QC analysis graph for my (DW6988) dew point data...NOT!



« Last Edit: May 15, 2016, 02:57:12 PM by Old Tele man »
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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2016, 03:11:49 PM »
Earles, your fault for looking. :-P
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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2016, 04:59:37 PM »
Dew point of 30 000 degrees F and it tells you this is fine and within the acceptable range?!  ](*,)

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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2016, 05:07:06 PM »
This is todays MADIS QC analysis graph for my (DW6988) dew point data...NOT!



Looks like other nearby stations to you on the list show the same problem. 
Must be been a technical issue with CWOP.





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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2016, 05:24:09 PM »
MADIS = WX G.I.G.O.!
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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2016, 05:33:07 PM »
LOL... just to put things into perspective, the temperature on the Sun surface is 9940 F :D

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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2016, 10:52:33 PM »
MADIS = WX G.I.G.O.!

True, Garbage In, Garbage out... At least this proves your not the source of the garbage  :-P

But isn't MADIS better than nothing?
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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2016, 11:13:56 PM »
MADIS = WX G.I.G.O.!
But isn't MADIS better than nothing?
If all PWS owners who put their data online truly cared about the quality of what they were posting, it would be a great thing. Need I say more?
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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2016, 11:32:18 PM »
This is todays MADIS QC analysis graph for my (DW6988) dew point data...NOT!


Looks like an issue with Phillip Gladstones site to me. Did you check the MADIS website for what that was saying?

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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2016, 10:42:32 AM »
This is todays MADIS QC analysis graph for my (DW6988) dew point data...NOT!


Looks like an issue with Phillip Gladstones site to me. Did you check the MADIS website for what that was saying?
Maybe, because on the MADIS map display nothing appears to be wrong there with my DP, nor with anybody else around me.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2016, 10:48:18 AM by Old Tele man »
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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2016, 11:42:39 AM »
This is todays MADIS QC analysis graph for my (DW6988) dew point data...NOT!


Looks like an issue with Phillip Gladstones site to me. Did you check the MADIS website for what that was saying?

I checked my site on the Madis map and there are spikes for everyone recently.  However Gladestone site looks good, it didn't show spikes so something strange is going on....

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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2016, 12:18:56 PM »
Like I said, "...I hate MADIS..." and Gladstone is simply "showing" us what MADIS produced.
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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2016, 03:17:06 PM »
"...I hate MADIS..."

Sounds like a song :P

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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2016, 07:10:24 PM »
I still don't understand why everyone gets so bent about the Madis QC reports.  I started reporting to Findu probably back in 2008 and it used to do that to me all the time.  I got a little bent about it then I realized they aggregated everybody's reports and QC'd it against a baseline.  As I saw on this thread earlier, its 'garbage in/garbage out'.

I learned to ignore it and enjoy the hobby.  I check my QC about twice a year now.  Since then I've never had a problem.


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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2016, 07:28:09 PM »
There is a very simple fix ;)
Dont send data there, send data to your own web and make sure you set limits for the data that are lower than 6 times the temperature of the Sun ;)

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Re: This is why I dispise MADIS!
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2016, 09:23:40 PM »
Like I said, "...I hate MADIS..." and Gladstone is simply "showing" us what MADIS produced.

As it clears states on a QC page, nobody outside of MADIS knows what they use for QC. On the Gladstone page thumbs-up are based on the percentage of reports that MADIS didn't flag. The analysis is generated by Philips website based on the data reported by nearby stations; in an attempt to help you identify why MADIS may be flagging your data. If MADIS isn't constantly flagging your data there is little reason to worry about or even look at the analysis.

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