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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #300 on: June 07, 2014, 05:31:24 PM »
I ordered the Plugable 7 port usb hub and unfortunately it didn't work out that well. Every time the PC would reboot it would act as though no power was applied to the unit. Had to physically pull the power cord and plug it back in to get the power on again. Really strange as I've never seen this before. Usually they are always on with external supplies. And having remote cams this would really be a pain, lol. Read through a lot of the forums and found out that sometimes on faulty units this would happen. I also read where each port would eventually start to fail. Ports 1-4 would begin to fail and then 5-7. Not disappointed at all just really wanted this unit to work because of the horsepower (4A Adapter). I may order the same unit again but I settled on a 2A Ultra (Tiger Direct) hub for now. Just wanted to share my experience. No complaints, just information.

Are there any specifically recommended powered USB hubs? There are tons of them available but, which ones are the best?
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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #301 on: June 07, 2014, 07:17:05 PM »
Ouch.. gee I'm sorry 'bout that.. Did you return it?  I've had no issues with mine, don't think Joe has, and I just ordered a couple of 4's for smaller requirements.
 


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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #302 on: June 07, 2014, 07:40:55 PM »
Not your fault Mike, honestly no big deal. Im easy like that. I returned it and may try again at some point. Maybe a 4 port since I'm only pushin' one cam. Still can't understand why it would power down during the reboot and not power back on. Oh, I forgot to mention that I plugged in my key and mouse and they weren't recognized. Very odd since those 2 devices only pull about 90-100ma.

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #303 on: July 24, 2014, 07:28:09 PM »
Hi Guys

I got a -2 diopter for my Logitech 9000 pro usb webcam but can't see a great improvement in quality. I'm using webcamcapture software at a res of 800*600. Auto focus is off. I'm wondering am i doing something wrong or is there certain settings that need to be changed. A link to the raw image is here www.waterfordcityweather.com/webcam000.jpg


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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #304 on: August 09, 2014, 08:59:11 PM »
Mick, I just logged on after being absent a while and saw your post.  I looked at your image just now but it looks like it's night and looks like it might be raining (it is here...2.6 inches in the last couple of hours!!!)  I know it's been a couple of weeks since you posted your message, have you been able to get a better image from the camera?  If nothing else, I'm giving you a bump so someone else might respond. :)

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #305 on: August 10, 2014, 03:32:16 AM »
I use a contact lens, Works great and are easier to attach The camera
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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #306 on: August 10, 2014, 10:14:36 AM »
Mick, I just logged on after being absent a while and saw your post.  I looked at your image just now but it looks like it's night and looks like it might be raining (it is here...2.6 inches in the last couple of hours!!!)  I know it's been a couple of weeks since you posted your message, have you been able to get a better image from the camera?  If nothing else, I'm giving you a bump so someone else might respond. :)



Cheers for the bump. A while now since i posted but the issues still remain. I have tried a few different things but honestly i can't see any improvement since i attached the -2 diopter. I'm comparing my image with my own past images and results of others in the forum.

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #307 on: August 11, 2014, 07:30:54 AM »
Mick, I just logged on after being absent a while and saw your post.  I looked at your image just now but it looks like it's night and looks like it might be raining (it is here...2.6 inches in the last couple of hours!!!)  I know it's been a couple of weeks since you posted your message, have you been able to get a better image from the camera?  If nothing else, I'm giving you a bump so someone else might respond. :)



Cheers for the bump. A while now since i posted but the issues still remain. I have tried a few different things but honestly i can't see any improvement since i attached the -2 diopter. I'm comparing my image with my own past images and results of others in the forum.

Is 800x600 the max resolution you can select for this camera?

On my old c270, I got better results by capturing the image at the maximum resolution of 1280 x 960 and then using software to resample (not crop) it down to the target size of 800x600 and got far better quality than if I just set the camera to 800x600 native...

Also, do you get the same issues with other software?
Yawcam is free, it might be worth trying that to see if its a hardware or software issue.

Edit: just another thought; you say that autofocus is off, but did you also adjust the focus to infinity first?
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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #308 on: August 11, 2014, 08:31:54 AM »
My First webcam was a c9000... and it does have good resolution, when new, and good distance focus.... 2mp at 1600x1200 max size. The third year definition went down some. Hubble doesn't necessarily improve an already sharp camera, and the 9000 was excellent. Mine's still up after 5 years, and worked last week when I checked it... but I no longer use it actively.
About all a Hubble fix does for a well operating 9000 is a degree of 'fisheye'. It is a standard definition cam  4:3 ...

Where the Hubble works best is on some of the newer models, like the C920 and C910.  The lower number cams from Logitech vary in Pixels and results. Also there is little or no effect noticed
with most IP cams, for some reason. Now, I've a C910 with a -3 overlay to expand the field a few degrees, and one with a -2. My other three active cams are c920s with -2 correction. All of them have a distinct focus improvement at distance when properly adjusted. Remember also, just on the odd chance, we are talking 'negative' diopter... a 'positive' diopter won't do a thing to help.
There are several C9000 with Hubble here : http://ourspecial.net/twinhollies/weathercenter/campage/
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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #309 on: August 11, 2014, 10:03:42 AM »
Thanks Cutty and Snapper for your replies. As Cutty said the cam does go to 1600x1200 max res but i also stream the cam on my site and to run those settings for a stream would give me 100% cpu load. This would lead to other issues in the long run.
 One thing that has improved the image was to back off a slight zoom i had selected in the settings on the cam. Clarity is a lot better now. I just need to adjust it to show more of the sky and also try to improve the quality of stream as this is poor compared with the still image. You can see what the current image looks like here http://www.waterfordcityweather.com/wxwebcam.php Its the top image on the page.

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #310 on: August 23, 2014, 10:49:02 PM »
Finally got some time to install my new C920 webcam w/Hubble Fix attached...



The live daytime shots will probably look a bit better when the sun isn't impacting the image.

EDIT: Have added the currently displayed image so it can be compared with the initial image. It may make it easier down the road to notice deterioration in the image quality.

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #311 on: August 24, 2014, 08:18:43 AM »
Looking good, Don.   As for the sun...I like the sidelighting. ;)

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #312 on: August 24, 2014, 08:27:08 AM »
Mick, I finally caught your camera during the daylight.  Looks good, too.  Plenty of sky, though it looks very overcast today...getting any rain with it?

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #313 on: August 24, 2014, 10:41:31 AM »
Great looking image W3!

Finally got some time to install my new C920 webcam w/Hubble Fix attached...



The live daytime shots will probably look a bit better when the sun isn't impacting the image.

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #314 on: August 24, 2014, 01:43:07 PM »
Hey Cutty... Need two modifications to your Hubble-ized page. First you can drop one of the Newcomerstown boxes as I only have the one camera running right now and two you can change the link to http://www.ohiowx.com/images/cam_1.jpg as it has changed. Sorry for the delay in getting this information to you. Don.

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #315 on: August 24, 2014, 05:28:24 PM »
Finally got some time to install my new C920 webcam w/Hubble Fix attached...
Hey Cutty... Need two modifications to your Hubble-ized page. First you can drop one of the Newcomerstown boxes as I only have the one camera running right now and two you can change the link to http://www.ohiowx.com/images/cam_1.jpg as it has changed. Sorry for the delay in getting this information to you. Don.
Dang.... two Dons to update... sounds more and more like an organized crime spy page...

Anyway, both you guys are updated... especially links, popup image, etc... check your data on the page, make sure I've got it all cool.

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #316 on: August 24, 2014, 05:52:19 PM »
Mike, dont forget about little old me.  :grin:

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #317 on: August 24, 2014, 06:04:48 PM »
Mike, dont forget about little old me.  :grin:

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Heh.. Chris, I'm sorry... I must have missed that somewhere along the line...   :oops: I have a vague memory of you adding another...  will do ASAP... Did you do a form on that one, or what?  I'll always get the form since it's sent to several addresses..   hope I haven't missed any more...
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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #318 on: August 24, 2014, 06:10:33 PM »
Lol. No biggy. No form but the same as the other 910's. May be swapping them out with 510's soon. Lightning is constantly causing them to drop out but the 510's are stable during storms.  Thank god storm season is almost over.

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #319 on: August 24, 2014, 06:31:45 PM »
Lol. No biggy. No form but the same as the other 910's. May be swapping them out with 510's soon. Lightning is constantly causing them to drop out but the 510's are stable during storms.  Thank god storm season is almost over.
Ok,... you're up & running on the pier...don't fall off.... check the data...
hmmm.... I'd hate to see you replace those good looking 16:9 910s with the older 4:3 510s... the wide version is so great looking...
 


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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #320 on: August 24, 2014, 06:55:34 PM »
Thanks mike. Yeah i dont want to either. If i could figure out a way to keep them from losing connection in lightning storms id be up for it. Turning into daily reboots lately. Sometimes 3 times a day. 

Lol. No biggy. No form but the same as the other 910's. May be swapping them out with 510's soon. Lightning is constantly causing them to drop out but the 510's are stable during storms.  Thank god storm season is almost over.
Ok,... you're up & running on the pier...don't fall off.... check the data...
hmmm.... I'd hate to see you replace those good looking 16:9 910s with the older 4:3 510s... the wide version is so great looking...

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #321 on: August 24, 2014, 07:42:05 PM »
Thanks mike. Yeah i dont want to either. If i could figure out a way to keep them from losing connection in lightning storms id be up for it. Turning into daily reboots lately. Sometimes 3 times a day. 

Lol. No biggy. No form but the same as the other 910's. May be swapping them out with 510's soon. Lightning is constantly causing them to drop out but the 510's are stable during storms.  Thank god storm season is almost over.
Ok,... you're up & running on the pier...don't fall off.... check the data...
hmmm.... I'd hate to see you replace those good looking 16:9 910s with the older 4:3 510s... the wide version is so great looking...
I kind of wonder what might happen if the camera housings were  grounded?  I have also noted that at times, depending on which PC they're connected to, a cam can be much slower to recover after a sudden intense brightness surge... most notable at dusk or in dark hours...
 
Truth of the matter, your cameras just get sick of transmitting those fantastic scenes, are overwhelmed with the scenery, and go into "can't take this anymore--gotta rest"   mode.  There was no such empathetic circuit built into the 510s.  Your locations make me sick, Chris...  ](*,)
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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #322 on: August 24, 2014, 10:17:31 PM »
You got it Mike, thanks!!

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #323 on: December 07, 2014, 04:13:59 PM »
I'm thinking about trying this http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Webcam-Widescreen-Calling-Recording/dp/B006JH8T3S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417986509&sr=8-1&keywords=Logitech+C920 would this work and which diopter would i need i'm a noob when it comes to this stuff hehe

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Re: Near-sighted webcams - The Hubble Fix
« Reply #324 on: December 07, 2014, 05:14:24 PM »
Hey Mike... three of my cams are C920 pros...others are C910 pros--- using a -2 (negative 2) diopter.... they're all connected with active usb extenders, ...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003NUIK4M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or similar.... keep spares....
nearby lightning EMF pulse once in awhile may kill an extender... so will water. Seal the connections and covers with Scotch 2242 tape.
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Logitech drivers are only designed to handle one cam at a time.  Connect multiple loggies thru external powered USB multiport.  USB 2 is sufficient.
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