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Title: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 01, 2017, 10:19:10 AM
Today is first day of winter, being favorite or least favorite time of year deserves its own thread.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 01, 2017, 10:26:56 AM
After above normal late fall over most of upper plains winter makes its return into region including great lakes area starting next week. Looks like the western and SW areas will stay above normal this early part of winter.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Glenn on December 01, 2017, 01:14:10 PM
Calling for a shift to some much cooler weather mid/late next week for New England.

 =D>
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: spc fresno on December 01, 2017, 01:27:39 PM
My favorite time of year!  :-)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 01, 2017, 02:57:04 PM
My favorite time of year!  :-)

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 03, 2017, 07:33:35 AM
Lastest run early December snowfall forecast through Tuesday. These can change as we know over time.

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: mkutche on December 03, 2017, 08:20:01 AM
Given the overall look to the pattern, I'm expecting Indianapolis, IN to be in the double digit snowfall total range and have at least (2) mornings w/ sub-zero lows before the New Year. I'll revisit this 1.1.18. Regardless, enjoy the mild, quiet weather we have now.

So do I think we'll see a white Christmas? Absolutely. Much higher than normal, IMO. (I forecast for Indianapolis just an fyi)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: mkutche on December 03, 2017, 09:07:05 AM
Only a paltry 9.7% of the Lower 48 is currently snow covered.  GEFS ensemble mean says that changes over the upcoming couple weeks.

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 03, 2017, 09:18:40 AM
WOW! looking like a white Christmas for many.  =D>
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: mkutche on December 03, 2017, 09:22:47 AM
WOW! looking like a white Christmas for many.  =D>

Absolutely! We haven't had a white Christmas in central Indiana since 2010, yep 7 years ago when 5" of snow was reported at 7am. Climatologically speaking we have about a 25% chance each year. The Christmas snow storm of 2002 started Christmas eve and by midnight 5.9” of snow fell with an additional 1.9” falling Christmas day. The snow depth Christmas morning was 7” at 7 am. Only two years later a series of accumulating snows leading up to Christmas in 2004 left 9” of snow on the ground, the whitest Christmas on record. I say we are due lol
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 03, 2017, 09:24:54 AM
I had (-37F) -38C last Dec.19th at one of my stations. -31 at airport and in town station. Doubt it gets that cold again but something to keep on burner it can happen. We average over 20 below zero F days here so can happen.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: mkutche on December 03, 2017, 09:29:46 AM
I had (-37F) -38C last Dec.19th at one of my stations. -31 at airport and in town station. Doubt it gets that cold again but something to keep on burner it can happen. We average over 20 below zero F days here so can happen.

Last Dec 19th for my station reported 22F! Wow I don't think it ever got that cold here the -37F from what i recall anyway. We had 20 below zero days a couple of winters back.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 03, 2017, 09:36:59 AM
-39F is all time low here happened in the 1989.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 03, 2017, 09:52:37 AM
Here is Martinsville near you. -35F
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: mkutche on December 03, 2017, 09:57:13 AM
Here is Martinsville near you. -35F
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oh cool I do remember 1994 now that I think of it .. We had an ice storm that left us without power for days, maybe weeks, but then again I was only 9 lol

1989 i was only 4 so I don't know much about what went on then lol.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 04, 2017, 07:25:46 PM
Peak wind gust I recorded was 63 mph at the station just outside town. This was driving around town today. Camera doesn't really do it justice it was actually worse.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: chief-david on December 04, 2017, 07:28:03 PM
Hi of 55 today. Some had 58. Dropping like a rock. Snow moving in Expecting 2+.  the snow is not the big deal, but the wind is expected to pick up.

I will just leave this here for the next 24 hours.
(http://weather.rms.rdale.org/OutsideTempHistory.gif)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 04, 2017, 08:11:11 PM
No big drop in temps here but winds were gusting 60 mph + over hour with temps in mid-low 20's making for nice windchill. I only got 1.2" snowfall.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Central Maine Weather on December 04, 2017, 08:31:59 PM
Definitely hoping for a snowy winter here in western Maine. We received over 140" last season. I'd love to see that again this season. There's nothing quite like snowshoeing through the Maine woods when there's 3+ feet of snow on the ground, on a still, cold morning after a recent snowfall.

Winter is definitely my favorite season, and thus far we've only had a half an inch of snow. Things look to change late this week after a big rain storm tomorrow through Wednesday, with four different chances of accumulating snow within the next week or so. At the very least, the cold air is on its way.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 05, 2017, 05:22:57 PM
In case you missed it Tucson's snow removal equipment is ready to go.

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on December 05, 2017, 05:28:51 PM
 :lol: Didn't know we even had that!
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: PaulMy on December 05, 2017, 05:37:03 PM
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Definitely hoping for a snowy winter here in western Maine. We received over 140" last season. I'd love to see that again this season. There's nothing quite like snowshoeing through the Maine woods when there's 3+ feet of snow on the ground, on a still, cold morning after a recent snowfall.
We immigrated to Canada in February when I was 10 years old.  Our boat docked in St. John NB and we then took the train from there through Maine into Montreal and then to Southern Ontario.  What a shock, but what a wonder, when through 10 year old eyes I saw the snow along the train track so high it nearly reached to top of the power line poles.  At our home in Europe the power line poles were concrete and were very tall.  We eventually realized those were somewhat shorter poles and also telephone wires that had many strands so fairly close to the ground.  But still a lot of snow through Maine...

Enjoyed it,
Paul
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: PaulMy on December 05, 2017, 05:39:17 PM
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(http://www.wxforum.net/Smileys/default/icon_lol.gif) Didn't know we even had that!
The sand and salt mixture is probably stored in someones backyard sand box?

Enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Central Maine Weather on December 05, 2017, 05:49:37 PM

But still a lot of snow through Maine...

Enjoyed it,
Paul
In a typical winter we see about 1-2 ft of snow on the ground through the winter. Last year was one of those years to remember. At one point in mid March we had over 5 feet of snow on the ground. Nothing compared to lake effect or mountainous areas, but definitely impressive for area in Maine, where we mainly get snow from coastal storms and Alberta Clippers.
   - Matt
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on December 05, 2017, 05:54:26 PM
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(http://www.wxforum.net/Smileys/default/icon_lol.gif) Didn't know we even had that!
The sand and salt mixture is probably stored in someones backyard sand box?

Enjoy,
Paul
Ha, plenty of sand, doubtful on the NaCl!
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 05, 2017, 06:41:05 PM

Ha, plenty of sand, doubtful on the NaCl!

None of that nasty stuff around here either. Just sand.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 07, 2017, 06:04:12 AM
First zero F (-17.7C) of winter. Still have 3 hours before sunrise to go below.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Bunty on December 07, 2017, 12:22:37 PM
WOW, most winters don't get as low as ZERO here.  That cold air arrived this morning.  It will only be around freezing thing afternoon.  Low expected is 20.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Glenn on December 07, 2017, 01:24:30 PM
Temps finally dropped in VT to a point where they can start really getting the snowguns going again. Looks like the temps will drop lower into next week. We could use some natural snow though; both for the ski areas and snowmobiling.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 07, 2017, 02:20:02 PM
WOW, most winters don't get as low as ZERO here.  That cold air arrived this morning.  It will only be around freezing thing afternoon.  Low expected is 20.

I looked for Stillwater airport but all data was missing. Here is nearby station goes back 100+ years averages 1.1 below zero days yearly.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Bunty on December 10, 2017, 03:13:02 PM
WOW, most winters don't get as low as ZERO here.  That cold air arrived this morning.  It will only be around freezing thing afternoon.  Low expected is 20.

I looked for Stillwater airport but all data was missing. Here is nearby station goes back 100+ years averages 1.1 below zero days yearly.
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The point you're trying to make is unfounded.  My weather records go back to 2009.  Since 2009, there was only one winter in which the temp sunk below zero.  So I looked over the Stillwater airport records made available by WU starting at 2008.  I got tired of wasting time looking as far back as 1998, because I couldn't find any winter month with a below zero temp low.  So I continue to stand by my word that it is rare here for a winter to have any below zero temps.

Thanks for the interesting chart.  Most of the record temperature extremes go back well before I was born.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 10, 2017, 08:24:11 PM
WOW, most winters don't get as low as ZERO here.  That cold air arrived this morning.  It will only be around freezing thing afternoon.  Low expected is 20.

I looked for Stillwater airport but all data was missing. Here is nearby station goes back 100+ years averages 1.1 below zero days yearly.
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The point you're trying to make is unfounded.  My weather records go back to 2009.  Since 2009, there was only one winter in which the temp sunk below zero.  So I looked over the Stillwater airport records made available by WU starting at 2008.  I got tired of wasting time looking as far back as 1998, because I couldn't find any winter month with a below zero temp low.  So I continue to stand by my word that it is rare here for a winter to have any below zero temps.

Thanks for the interesting chart.  Most of the record temperature extremes go back well before I was born.

I wasn't making a point at all. How does 1 day a year mean something other than rare?
If anything it was substantiating what you said as rare and News Flash weather records do go beyond our lifetime.
   
I did find the airport extreme mins since 1996 and 4 below zero days at least have occurred, all since 2011.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 21, 2017, 06:25:24 PM
Working on a white Christmas...
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ocala on December 21, 2017, 06:59:48 PM
Kind of an odd thing I noticed today.
On Cumulus it shows the days length at the top.
It says tomorrow is actually 2 seconds shorter then today.
Always thought today was the shortest day of the year.
Edit.
After I made this post I went to look at Cumulus. It now says it's the same length.  :???:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 21, 2017, 07:16:59 PM
Kind of an odd thing I noticed today.
On Cumulus it shows the days length at the top.
It says tomorrow is actually 2 seconds shorter then today.
Always thought today was the shortest day of the year.
Edit.
After I made this post I went to look at Cumulus. It now says it's the same length.  :???:

Yeah 2 seconds longer tomorrow.  =D> Thank goodness, Lack of sunlight is getting old already...
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 25, 2017, 08:20:13 AM
HO HO HO....Bitter cold Christmas morning, after overnight low (-3F) currently 0F with windchill -13F west Valentine Ne. High temperature expected around 9F with slight chance of snow. Ground soil temperature today 21F at 4" depth and has froze to 15" with the extended cold this week. Looking ahead more arctic cold and possible snowstorm Friday.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ocala on December 25, 2017, 08:35:53 AM
53F here headed towards 65F.
 :-)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 25, 2017, 08:51:48 AM
53F here headed towards 65F.
 :-)

Sounds like a cool day for Florida.  8-) Near 80° down around south beach is the place to be..
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: zackdog on December 25, 2017, 09:30:11 AM
Three days ago I was worried about having a rare "brown Christmas".   Winter finally arrived, beginning on the 23rd. :grin:

Merry Christmas to all.

Mark

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ocala on December 25, 2017, 09:38:51 AM
53F here headed towards 65F.
 :-)

Sounds like a cool day for Florida.  8-) Near 80° down around south beach is the place to be..
It was 79 here yesterday. An overnight cold front cooled it off today.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: gwwilk on December 25, 2017, 09:49:19 AM
Here's a look at who is officially having a White Christmas in 2017:

(https://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snow_model/images/full/National/nsm_depth/201712/nsm_depth_2017122505_National.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Central Maine Weather on December 25, 2017, 10:31:05 AM
It's a Christmas Day Blizzard here in Maine! A Blizzard Warning was just issued for us here in Western Maine. Check out my webcam on my website. Almost complete whiteout conditions! Winds should increase through the day, and then temperatures tumble beginning tomorrow, with highs later this week likely staying below 0F!

Winter is here...
http://monumenthillweather.webs.com/
   - Matt
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 25, 2017, 12:57:00 PM
It's a Christmas Day Blizzard here in Maine! A Blizzard Warning was just issued for us here in Western Maine. Check out my webcam on my website. Almost complete whiteout conditions! Winds should increase through the day, and then temperatures tumble beginning tomorrow, with highs later this week likely staying below 0F!

Winter is here...
http://monumenthillweather.webs.com/
   - Matt

Both Cameras are being blocked for some reason or I would look.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 25, 2017, 12:58:38 PM
Here's a look at who is officially having a White Christmas in 2017:



Strange thet strip through SD with no snow.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Central Maine Weather on December 25, 2017, 02:17:19 PM


Both Cameras are being blocked for some reason or I would look.
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Very odd... It has been working with no issues for others elsewhere. But I have adjusted some settings. Let me know if you can view it now on my website.

Thanks for the heads up that you couldn't view it! A bit concerning to me that you get a 'Malicious Website' message as well. I hope it is fixed now. Of course now that you can hopefully view it, the heavy snow is over and now its just on and off light snow for the remainder of the storm. 12.2" total so far.
   - Matt
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 25, 2017, 04:06:54 PM


Both Cameras are being blocked for some reason or I would look.
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Very odd... It has been working with no issues for others elsewhere. But I have adjusted some settings. Let me know if you can view it now on my website.

Thanks for the heads up that you couldn't view it! A bit concerning to me that you get a 'Malicious Website' message as well. I hope it is fixed now. Of course now that you can hopefully view it, the heavy snow is over and now its just on and off light snow for the remainder of the storm. 12.2" total so far.
   - Matt

Working now... =D>
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Central Maine Weather on December 25, 2017, 08:46:07 PM

Working now... =D>
Awesome, thanks again!
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 26, 2017, 03:13:33 PM
Made it above zero today 2F, looking at the next shot of arctic air Friday/Saturday even colder. Cold enough air if conditions were perfect -30 below Valentine again but looks like clouds and light snow will hamper the real cold stuff from occuring.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on December 26, 2017, 03:28:17 PM
Mid to upper 70's all week... 8-)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Central Maine Weather on December 26, 2017, 03:39:57 PM
Our really cold conditions are just beginning here. Around 0F tonight and then through the next week highs will be in the low single digits with lows -10F to -20F. Wind chills over this period will be running -20F to -30F as well. We don't typically see cold like that until late January/February. Only thing I'm bummed about is that typically when it gets this cold the storm track stays south of us. I'd rather have it a bit warmer and stormier.

I can't complain though, we have 22" on the ground currently, perfect for all winter sports, and with the cold temps, that snow-pack isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 26, 2017, 03:45:15 PM
Our really cold conditions are just beginning here. Around 0F tonight and then through the next week highs will be in the low single digits with lows -10F to -20F. Wind chills over this period will be running -20F to -30F as well. We don't typically see cold like that until late January/February. Only thing I'm bummed about is that typically when it gets this cold the storm track stays south of us. I'd rather have it a bit warmer and stormier.

I can't complain though, we have 22" on the ground currently, perfect for all winter sports, and with the cold temps, that snow-pack isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I'll give you some of the cold if you can send a little more snow.   :lol:
You can only squeeze so much moisture, inch or two out of artic air.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Central Maine Weather on December 26, 2017, 04:03:18 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Central Maine Weather on December 26, 2017, 04:03:39 PM
Very true!  :lol:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 26, 2017, 04:06:11 PM
Mid to upper 70's all week... 8-)

Road trip and experience what you're missing.   :-)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on December 26, 2017, 04:21:55 PM
Mid to upper 70's all week... 8-)

Road trip and experience what you're missing.   :-)
Now that I'm older and skinnier, I hate the cold. Besides, I spent my childhood outside of Pittsburgh and Cleveland til joining the Navy, then it's been warm climates ever since.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 27, 2017, 05:22:38 PM
Brutal forecast coming up. Don't think I've ever seen -22F (-30C) being in a forecast before.

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ocala on December 27, 2017, 05:32:25 PM
Brutal forecast coming up. Don't think I've ever seen -22F (-30C) being in a forecast before.

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-22? That's just so wrong on many levels. :roll:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on December 27, 2017, 05:48:32 PM
We here will certainly break our warmest year on record, again, this being the third time in four years. Not only that, this year will obliterate the old records (tied 2014 & 2016) by at least a full degree, the other records were broken by only 0.2F at most. That's a five hundred percent jump, at minimum. :shock:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 27, 2017, 05:50:33 PM


-22? That's just so wrong on many levels. :roll:

I know it's inhumane for sure. Poor livestock and wildlife that have to endure outside...
Typically with artic air there isn't much moisture around here for lots of snow which is a good thing but it usually squeezes out a inch or two of powder.
 
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 27, 2017, 05:56:34 PM
We here will certainly break our warmest year on record, again, this being the third time in four years. Not only that, this year will obliterate the old records (tied 2014 & 2016) by at least a full degree, the other records were broken by only 0.2F at most. That's a five hundred percent jump, at minimum. :shock:

SW is in a dry warm pattern for sure. The big blocking high was the culprit parked off the west coast for several years now. I watch the weather because my son is still in Page and its abnormally warm also, Flagstaff still hasn't gotten any snow. Latest on record though is first week of January if memory serves.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 27, 2017, 05:59:56 PM
For those not familiar Flagstaff is 6th or 5th snowest 100K+ city in country. Average around 100 inches year.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 27, 2017, 06:56:23 PM
Here is the upcoming coldest day Sunday high temps and Monday morning lows from NWS graphical forecast. All F°

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 28, 2017, 11:10:29 AM
#ItsSoCold is trending on twitter.
My thoughts this will be best shot at testing the Davis instruments thermometer bottom out -40F (-40C).  I'll be it small the chance is there with Forecasters saying -24 and Valentine known for extreme cold under perfect conditions and the All-time record low -39F back in the 80's, it's within reach if perfect conditions arise.

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 28, 2017, 01:23:32 PM
Insulated  (fingers went numb from cold ) Davis ISS just in case and changed battery. This unit east side Valentine lost transmission around negative -37° last year . Not sure why but sure it had something to do with cold, maybe solder. If it does get down that low again maybe it will help.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 28, 2017, 03:21:25 PM
Canadian model at 6AM ctz Monday morning looks little too cold.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 28, 2017, 03:36:11 PM
This is NWS forecast with model blend at same time.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on December 28, 2017, 04:29:30 PM
Jeez, I'll be only 60F warmer than you.... :-P
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 28, 2017, 04:45:44 PM
Jeez, I'll be only 60F warmer than you.... :-P

 :lol:  Forecast has backed off on snow chances this afternoon to 50%...Good thing is much less likely to have a thermometer plummet without the fresh snow. Bad thing no chance of -30s without the fresh snow.  ](*,)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ocala on December 28, 2017, 06:18:59 PM
#ItsSoCold is trending on twitter.
My thoughts this will be best shot at testing the Davis instruments thermometer bottom out -40F (-40C).  I'll be it small the chance is there with Forecasters saying -24 and Valentine known for extreme cold under perfect conditions and the All-time record low -39F back in the 80's, it's within reach if perfect conditions arise.

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If I recall correctly John from Alaska who used to post on here had a Davis. I remember him saying that the unit bottomed out at -40 but the temp was actually colder then that. I think he was pretty upset about it. Again this was awhile back so I might have "misremembered it".
 :-)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on December 28, 2017, 06:25:02 PM
#ItsSoCold is trending on twitter.
My thoughts this will be best shot at testing the Davis instruments thermometer bottom out -40F (-40C).  I'll be it small the chance is there with Forecasters saying -24 and Valentine known for extreme cold under perfect conditions and the All-time record low -39F back in the 80's, it's within reach if perfect conditions arise.

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If I recall correctly John from Alaska who used to post on here had a Davis. I remember him saying that the unit bottomed out at -40 but the temp was actually colder then that. I think he was pretty upset about it. Again this was awhile back so I might have "misremembered it".
 :-)
No, you remember right. He got so "lathered up" about it he used it as a Davis bashing point to the point of ad nauseam. He left.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 28, 2017, 06:46:36 PM
Yes it won't work below -40 is correct. I'm also testing a different AC fan.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 28, 2017, 08:29:30 PM
Some of later model runs have moderated air in my area some 15°. (-20F) looks like more of what to expect.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 30, 2017, 10:03:40 PM
First for me tonight snowing at -5°. Only about a inch all day but very arctic like. 
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 01, 2018, 06:11:50 PM
Fun fact if you like cold weather, last 11 days average high (11) Low (-5).

December summary: Temperature normal thanks to extended cold snap end of month only plus (+0.1F), Mean temperature (23.9), average high (35), low (13). Precipitation was normal at (.39) for month. Monthly high (61.6), low (-19.5) with 29 days freezing or below and 8 Days below zero.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: zackdog on January 01, 2018, 07:13:26 PM
Still waiting for winter to arrive here.  December was more like a colder than normal November, than December.  My 22-year average for December is 16.7°F, this December was 21.7°F.  Normally I average 9 days with negative overnight lows, this year 2, with the lowest being only -1.2°F. 

I have only had my Snow Stake for eleven years and the average depth on December 31 is 15".  This year it sits at 5" with bare spots on south facing hillside.

The mean temperature for all of 2017 was 38.8°F, a full 2.4°F higher than my average.

Mark
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: chief-david on January 01, 2018, 08:03:31 PM
made it over 0 today for the first time since Friday.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 04, 2018, 02:06:57 PM
While the East coast is getting hammered by snowstorm this is our first day above freezing after 14 days.
36° at 1 pm central time.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Glenn on January 05, 2018, 08:47:03 AM
CT was hit pretty hard by the storm; it took a more Westerly track. I'd say we had about a foot of snow. Now the temps have dropped and the winds are kicking up. The area we ski at in Vermont has an air temp of -5F and a wind chill of -32F  Yikes.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: PaulMy on January 06, 2018, 12:44:47 PM
My snow blower has been busy... did my own driveway 4 times in 36 hours, and did 5 neighbour driveways to help them out.
Environment Canada snow and extreme temperature warnings https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?on21 (https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?on21)

Not enjoying, but not complaining either as it looks very pretty especially as the sun peeks through the low snow squalls http://www.komokaweather.com/weather/wu/image_wu.jpg (http://www.komokaweather.com/weather/wu/image_wu.jpg)

Paul
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Glenn on January 06, 2018, 02:57:38 PM
My snow blower has been busy... did my own driveway 4 times in 36 hours, and did 5 neighbour driveways to help them out.
Environment Canada snow and extreme temperature warnings https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?on21 (https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?on21)

Not enjoying, but not complaining either as it looks very pretty especially as the sun peeks through the low snow squalls http://www.komokaweather.com/weather/wu/image_wu.jpg (http://www.komokaweather.com/weather/wu/image_wu.jpg)

Paul

Are they talking -25 to 30 Celsius?   :shock:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: PaulMy on January 06, 2018, 03:46:57 PM
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Are they talking -25 to 30 Celsius?
Yes Celsius used here.


Like often happens, a January thaw will likely come shortly before the real cold temperatures arrive in February.

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Paul
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Glenn on January 07, 2018, 09:06:58 AM
That's amazingly cold! I thought -14F in Southern VT was chilly this morning....
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Central Maine Weather on January 07, 2018, 09:12:26 AM
Been very cold here too in western Maine. Our lowest temp over the past 2 weeks was -23F, and we've consistently been -10F to -20F every single night. It would be even colder if the winds would relax, but it has been so windy throughout this entire time! Our lowest wind chill over this time period has been -42F!

The other morning it was -8F and we had a wind gust of 49MPH! Calculated wind chill then was that -42F.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 07, 2018, 11:49:29 AM
Currently thaw here over next few days but winter storm is brewing for Wednesday accompanied with another shot of arctic air.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on January 07, 2018, 02:05:21 PM
We're only suppose to get to 60F Wed., and rain too! Guess I need to break out the long johns. :-({|=
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 07, 2018, 02:14:07 PM
Finally getting a storm breaking through the stationary high that keeps plaguing and blocking the SW.  Flagstaff is finally getting few inches snow. Snowpack is non existent.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on January 07, 2018, 02:18:49 PM
Even still, this is not particularly cold storm, snow level here will only get to about 6k. The really cold ones will hit the valley floor ~2.5k. The ridge is suppose to build back so it won't be long lived.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Glenn on January 07, 2018, 05:09:19 PM
Unfortunately, it's going to warm up in New England later this week. I long for a winter where it stays snowy and cold from December through March. Maybe I'm asking too much.  :grin:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: PaulMy on January 07, 2018, 05:32:26 PM
Our low -26.0°C at 11:57 pm last night is 8th in my Top10 http://www.komokaweather.com/mysql/top10.php but temperature dropped to -28.7°C at 3:24 am so will be 3rd in my Top10 when it updates after midnight.

It felt really cold when we were returning home last night after the hockey game.  But that was better than the cold and ongoing Lake Huron snow squalls we have been getting.

Enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: arlowx on January 08, 2018, 07:15:53 AM
For the last week I have been watching the temps up & down the east coast as I have family scattered most of the way down (I am in Northern VT).

Still snow on the ground in SC after several days & a generous helping of single-digits below the Mason-Dixon line.

Has anyone else noticed the pocket of cold along the I-95 corridor at the VA-NC border?  They were well below zero yesterday & still single digits this AM.

We are even above zero today at +12.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Maineac on January 08, 2018, 12:01:05 PM

We are even above zero today at +12.

We also had +12.  It's just wrong when +12 feels balmy.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on January 09, 2018, 12:03:58 AM
This low off the Socal coast looks to be nicely getting it's act together, and maybe getting a negative tilt too. Should be an interesting day/night Tue. in the SW. Wouldn't mind a Tstorm or two..
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 09, 2018, 02:11:23 PM
Helping bring winter to us also with more moisture. 3-6" with arctic conditions Wednesday night.  Winter is coming  =D>
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on January 09, 2018, 02:28:04 PM
And as usual, after Cali. burns, now they have to deal with the mudslides. I see where 5 are already dead.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 11, 2018, 12:50:30 PM
Even the Sahara desert is getting a taste of winter.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/09/576747323/photos-the-sahara-desert-painted-white-with-snow
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 15, 2018, 09:47:22 AM
Almost set a station record for wind chill reaching -30F (-34C). Station record is -33 over last 4 years.

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 15, 2018, 05:57:14 PM
Lots of below 0° (-18C) expected tonight. Even Arkansas, Oklahoma join in on the fun.  Houston Texas where most of my family lives will experience a freeze (30°) also its rather rare for south Texas on the Gulf of mexico.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: dupreezd on January 15, 2018, 07:29:03 PM
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Houston Texas where most of my family lives will experience a freeze (30°) also its rather rare for south Texas on the Gulf of mexico.
Yep, we have a big chance of frozen precipitation and might even get snow (second time this winter). Global cooling?   :shock:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 15, 2018, 07:46:13 PM
I have a grandson from Houston at boot camp in Missouri who had never experienced cold. His mom is so worried about him it's almost funny. I've tried to assure her he's a big boy now and not to worry.  :-)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: W3DRM on January 15, 2018, 08:28:03 PM
Sorry, couldn't resist this one...
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: dupreezd on January 16, 2018, 06:46:36 AM
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Sorry, couldn't resist this one...
Good one  =D> =D>
At work our network test lab is called "Al Gores Internet' as he claimed he invented it.

Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: dupreezd on January 16, 2018, 07:10:31 AM
We had rain overnight (.23). Currently we have sleet with 32.2F and dropping. Winds average 2.2mph with gusts over 6mph.
Tonight it is going to be even colder and the big concern is ice on the roads because of the rain.
People are urged to work from home.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 16, 2018, 06:03:44 PM
This is what we are dealing with. Sheets of ice everywhere, it's really adventurous just going to the store. And nobody here puts anything down like sand or salt.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Bunty on January 16, 2018, 07:08:25 PM
At least ice is sticking to the ground and not on trees and power lines.  Meanwhile, it will be interesting to see how close to zero temperatures will get to here this morning.`
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 16, 2018, 07:29:36 PM
Looking at RAP you are very close 1-4° range in the area.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: waiukuweather on January 16, 2018, 10:01:14 PM
re the global warming quips/A gore quips,
guys remember that the USA is not the globe
ie there are other parts of the globe that are having record heat waves (i.e places in the southern hemisphere where it is summer time)
(and so the globe is still warmer than normal overall)
and even in the USA, western states (i.e CA) are having record winter warmth, to balance things out
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 17, 2018, 05:04:26 AM
So close in Stillwater 4am. Just checked Houston down to 22° at Hobbie.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 17, 2018, 05:14:29 AM
Here in northern Nebraska we've had 16 below zero days in last 26. Lowest was -26° (-32 C). We are looking above normal to normal next 10 days. Normal is 36°-10° range. 
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: dupreezd on January 17, 2018, 07:14:51 AM
It is 17.2 at my place with calm winds, which is good  :-) I am closer to Conroe, which is always a bit colder.
Slush in my driveway all frozen.
Predicted to be 70 on Sunday

WOW, go me. This is MY personal lifetime coldest temp ever.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Bunty on January 17, 2018, 03:40:44 PM
So close in Stillwater 4am. Just checked Houston down to 22° at Hobbie.
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No surprise it would be there.  The airport is usually the coldest place in town.  I got down to 5.  My location tends to be one of the not so cold wu report stations.  Maybe because my location is more urban.

This map shows northeast Oklahoma got down as low as -8 on Wednesday morning. Snow on the ground probably explains that.  It didn't snow any here.   From the forecast, single digit lows look to be gone for the rest of the month.

(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26993979_1801320696584991_4560538730269302342_n.png?oh=2571c04b035a733e671c2037e2caddba&oe=5AEFFA29)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 17, 2018, 03:53:49 PM
I lived in Laverne where my first daughter was born in 1976. Also home of Miss American the sign coming into town said.  :-) I would drive through Woodward every day and worked at a gas refinery outside of Mooreland.

Anyway looks like it was in the -6 area up near the panhandle.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: alexstaar on January 17, 2018, 05:45:41 PM
Set all time record lows on my station for temperature (5.4ºF/-14.8ºC), apparent temperature (-3.1ºF/-19.5ºC), and wind chill (-9.2ºF/-22.9ºC) this morning (records date back to Jan. 2015). We had about a half inch of snow yesterday (which obviously didn't melt). Also will set an all time record lowest maximum temperature today... only made it to 22.5ºF/-5.3ºC this afternoon. Temps expected to fall to near 10ºF/-12ºC tonight.

Graph from earlier this morning.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on January 17, 2018, 06:05:26 PM
At least you folks in the south and east will finally get some much needed relief as this impressive trough of Washington state starts to dig. I'll be the cold one and y'all will warm. Come Tuesday the flow looks much more zonal instead of the highly amplitude pattern we've been in, so at least the country should be a little more "normal".
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: gwwilk on January 17, 2018, 06:48:50 PM
At least you folks in the south and east will finally get some much needed relief as this impressive trough of Washington state starts to dig. I'll be the cold one and y'all will warm. Come Tuesday the flow looks much more zonal instead of the highly amplitude pattern we've been in, so at least the country should be a little more "normal".
Emphasis mine.  I feel that this term is problematic when discussing statistically derived numbers.  I don't think there is such a thing as "normal" weather, just 'average' weather, which rarely occurs.  Using average rather than normal to relate current conditions to past conditions eliminates the immediate inference that anything that deviates from average is abnormal.  A "normal" day vis a vis the averages is extremely unlikely.

This is a bone that I will pick with the NWS at each and every opportunity. ](*,)  That's one reason the NOAA radio feeds turn me off because they always describe the averages for the day as 'normal'.  It's like they never went to college or ever heard of statistics :!:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on January 17, 2018, 07:06:52 PM
At least you folks in the south and east will finally get some much needed relief as this impressive trough of Washington state starts to dig. I'll be the cold one and y'all will warm. Come Tuesday the flow looks much more zonal instead of the highly amplitude pattern we've been in, so at least the country should be a little more "normal".
Emphasis mine.  I feel that this term is problematic when discussing statistically derived numbers.  I don't think there is such a thing as "normal" weather, just 'average' weather, which rarely occurs.  Using average rather than normal to relate current conditions to past conditions eliminates the immediate inference that anything that deviates from average is abnormal.  A "normal" day vis a vis the averages is extremely unlikely.

This is a bone that I will pick with the NWS at each and every opportunity. ](*,)  That's one reason the NOAA radio feeds turn me off because they always describe the averages for the day as 'normal'.  It's like they never went to college or ever heard of statistics :!:
:shock: Jeez, sorry I upset you as wasn't trying to imply anything, just impart so info. Enjoy your semantics.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 17, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
I'm bad using average, normal term loosely also. I think in modern time but don't limit myself thinking this is the way its always been.

Unfortunately lots of evidence we haven't seen anything yet. Hope it doesn't get this bad but current drought is nothing compared to what could/has happened.

Arizona State University Quote: Paleoclimatic evidence suggests drought in the mid-12th century far exceeded the severity, duration, and extent of subsequent droughts. The driest decade of this drought was anomalously warm, The convergence of prolonged warming and Tree ring evidence shows the southwest has endured much longer periods of drought than we currently have experienced:

Its also believed long spans of drought was the demise of the Anasazi tribes which thrived throughout the region.


Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: gwwilk on January 17, 2018, 07:58:41 PM
At least you folks in the south and east will finally get some much needed relief as this impressive trough of Washington state starts to dig. I'll be the cold one and y'all will warm. Come Tuesday the flow looks much more zonal instead of the highly amplitude pattern we've been in, so at least the country should be a little more "normal".
Emphasis mine.  I feel that this term is problematic when discussing statistically derived numbers.  I don't think there is such a thing as "normal" weather, just 'average' weather, which rarely occurs.  Using average rather than normal to relate current conditions to past conditions eliminates the immediate inference that anything that deviates from average is abnormal.  A "normal" day vis a vis the averages is extremely unlikely.

This is a bone that I will pick with the NWS at each and every opportunity. ](*,)  That's one reason the NOAA radio feeds turn me off because they always describe the averages for the day as 'normal'.  It's like they never went to college or ever heard of statistics :!:
:shock: Jeez, sorry I upset you as wasn't trying to imply anything, just impart so info. Enjoy your semantics.
You simply adopted the accepted but imprecise and utterly misleading common abuse of a very useless appellation. I apologize for choosing your post to vent my pent-up irritation.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on January 17, 2018, 08:44:23 PM
At least you folks in the south and east will finally get some much needed relief as this impressive trough of Washington state starts to dig. I'll be the cold one and y'all will warm. Come Tuesday the flow looks much more zonal instead of the highly amplitude pattern we've been in, so at least the country should be a little more "normal".
Emphasis mine.  I feel that this term is problematic when discussing statistically derived numbers.  I don't think there is such a thing as "normal" weather, just 'average' weather, which rarely occurs.  Using average rather than normal to relate current conditions to past conditions eliminates the immediate inference that anything that deviates from average is abnormal.  A "normal" day vis a vis the averages is extremely unlikely.

This is a bone that I will pick with the NWS at each and every opportunity. ](*,)  That's one reason the NOAA radio feeds turn me off because they always describe the averages for the day as 'normal'.  It's like they never went to college or ever heard of statistics :!:
:shock: Jeez, sorry I upset you as wasn't trying to imply anything, just impart so info. Enjoy your semantics.
You simply adopted the accepted but imprecise and utterly misleading common abuse of a very useless appellation. I apologize for choosing your post to vent my pent-up irritation.
No apology necessary, I spent my entire career using precise phraseology and didn't truly think about it, but I hear you.

If I may suggest, take care of that irritation. ;)
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: spc fresno on January 18, 2018, 01:46:42 PM
Personally, I think "normal" temperatures should be defined as a range (such as 52-62), rather than just one number (57). This could be easily figured out using the closest 25th or 20th percentile of temperatures to the so called "normal". On any given day, a temperature could be considered above or below normal ("abnormal" [-(), even if it is quite usual. Usually where I live, and probably everywhere else, "average" or "normal" weather only occurs during pattern shifts from cooler to warmer weather and vice-versa. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: gwwilk on January 18, 2018, 02:17:53 PM
Personally, I think "normal" temperatures should be defined as a range (such as 52-62), rather than just one number (57). This could be easily figured out using the closest 25th or 20th percentile of temperatures to the so called "normal". On any given day, a temperature could be considered above or below normal, even if it is quite usual. Usually where I live, and probably everywhere else, "average" or "normal" weather only occurs during pattern shifts from cooler to warmer weather and vice-versa. What do you guys think?
I absolutely agree that "normal" when used in the context of weather is best defined as a range and not as a single number.  No self-respecting psychologist or educator would define normal intelligence as an IQ of exactly 100 and thereby immediately relegate all others to above or below normal intelligence. Our imprecise language allows 'average' as a synonym of 'normal', but no self-respecting scientific discipline can embrace such sloppy usage in their work.  Even a "normal" body temperature is defined by a range around 98.6°F so that recorded oral temperatures other than 98.6°F can still be normal.  In fact, most recorded oral temperatures on normal patients I saw in my 50 years of medical practice missed that 98.6°F mark. 

An example of abnormal body temperature:  last month a friend of mine's dog got trapped in a freezing cold irrigation canal in central Nebraska and the man's natural response was to attempt to rescue his dog.  Both were trapped in the icy water, and 45 min. later when they were rescued by emergency responders the man's temperature was 84°F.  He's lucky to be alive because prolonged hypothermia to such a degree is often fatal.  Miraculously both man and dog survived.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ocala on January 18, 2018, 04:35:05 PM
Man I am so pissed.
Console batteries took a dump last night on the coldest night in more then a decade. :evil:
Note to self. Don't use cheap batteries.
Looking at the stations around me they ranged from 21F-23F so I'll split the difference and go with 22.
For some reason I was hoping the data logger would keep storing the data from the ISS but I guess with no power it can't do that.
This is really depressing. :sad:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 18, 2018, 05:24:41 PM
That stinks... :-(
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: spc fresno on January 18, 2018, 05:35:13 PM
Personally, I think "normal" temperatures should be defined as a range (such as 52-62), rather than just one number (57). This could be easily figured out using the closest 25th or 20th percentile of temperatures to the so called "normal". On any given day, a temperature could be considered above or below normal, even if it is quite usual. Usually where I live, and probably everywhere else, "average" or "normal" weather only occurs during pattern shifts from cooler to warmer weather and vice-versa. What do you guys think?
I absolutely agree that "normal" when used in the context of weather is best defined as a range and not as a single number.  No self-respecting psychologist or educator would define normal intelligence as an IQ of exactly 100 and thereby immediately relegate all others to above or below normal intelligence. Our imprecise language allows 'average' as a synonym of 'normal', but no self-respecting scientific discipline can embrace such sloppy usage in their work.  Even a "normal" body temperature is defined by a range around 98.6°F so that recorded oral temperatures other than 98.6°F can still be normal.  In fact, most recorded oral temperatures on normal patients I saw in my 50 years of medical practice missed that 98.6°F mark. 

An example of abnormal body temperature:  last month a friend of mine's dog got trapped in a freezing cold irrigation canal in central Nebraska and the man's natural response was to attempt to rescue his dog.  Both were trapped in the icy water, and 45 min. later when they were rescued by emergency responders the man's temperature was 84°F.  He's lucky to be alive because prolonged hypothermia to such a degree is often fatal.  Miraculously both man and dog survived.

Ummm... were we talking about body temperature or air temperature?  :-P
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ocala on January 20, 2018, 07:20:29 AM
Still a while to go in the month but so far the mean temp of 48.8F is well below the average mean temp of 58.1F.
Been a cold one for sure.
This week looks to be about average so that number should come up.

Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: gwwilk on January 20, 2018, 07:38:29 AM
Still a while to go in the month but so far the mean temp of 48.8F is well below the average mean temp of 58.1F.
Been a cold one for sure.
This week looks to be about average so that number should come up.
:-) =D> :grin:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on January 20, 2018, 06:04:50 PM
What a difference a couple of hours can make, genuine FROPA here, 67F to 47F, and a touch of rain.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: CW2274 on February 01, 2018, 06:08:45 PM
Picked up right where we left off, 2017 hottest year on record here, now tack on the past month, hottest January on record too. The hits keep commin', 83F today.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: jas340 on February 01, 2018, 08:12:26 PM
Average temperature here in January was 12.7F degrees warmer than last year! Last year was the most brutal winter seen in decades. Most forecasters expected a repeat. So far this winter has been a piece of cake  \:D/

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 01, 2018, 08:27:48 PM
Since moving to Nebraska this was 2nd coolest January out of 4. Nothing extreme only -1F below average.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ocala on February 02, 2018, 08:30:18 AM
Have records back to 03 for this location.
January 2018 was 52.4 which was cool by the average standard of 58.1.
In contrast January 2017 was ridiculously warm at 61.5.
My coldest so far was 49.5 in 2010.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: LABob on February 02, 2018, 10:19:35 AM
I guess we flipped the country, average wise. January 2017 was 50.7°F (just about average) at my location, and January 2018 was 58.7°F.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: zackdog on February 02, 2018, 10:25:17 AM
Still waiting for real winter to arrive here.  January ended up 3.3°F above my 23-year average of 17.1°F.  My coldest January was 11.2°F in 2008, while the warmest was in 2015 at 22.4°F.

Still waiting for snow.  My snow on the ground records only go back to the winter of 06-07.  I currently have 10.5" at my snow stake, the all time low for this date.  Average for the first of February is 24.4".  Highest was in 2008 at 36.0" while previous low amount was 13.5" in 2010.

Mark
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 10, 2018, 06:52:03 AM
Little nippy this morning. Still couple more hours before sunrise.

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 10, 2018, 07:52:38 AM
Windchill reached -35 on east side.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: SlowModem on February 10, 2018, 04:20:26 PM
Little nippy this morning. Still couple more hours before sunrise.

On a whim, I googled Valentine.  I think it is interesting about the history of the time zones.  It stopped, however, at 1967.  How is the time zone situation now?

I also think it is interesting about how the post office remails mail with the Valentine post mark for Feb.14th.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 10, 2018, 04:57:15 PM
Little nippy this morning. Still couple more hours before sunrise.

On a whim, I googled Valentine.  I think it is interesting about the history of the time zones.  It stopped, however, at 1967.  How is the time zone situation now?

I also think it is interesting about how the post office remails mail with the Valentine post mark for Feb.14th.

They moved the line west town about 15 miles now. Time zone was right down main street. I lived western all my younger life until I left in 1963 and went to school on central side.
 
Wish we were western now, being we are far west for central it's still light at 10pm summer.  It doesn't get dark enough at 43° longitude until 11pm to do fireworks on fourth of July so this means around town we get fireworks until 1am in the morning for couple weeks leading up to 4th. (fireworks are legal in town)

On positive side if you like staying up late and doing yard work at 9:30 in the evening you still have plenty of light.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: SlowModem on February 10, 2018, 09:04:03 PM
I am on the western edge of eastern time, so I understand about time zones.  In a way I wish the zones were not political but geographically equal.  I wish we were in central time.

Little nippy this morning. Still couple more hours before sunrise.

On a whim, I googled Valentine.  I think it is interesting about the history of the time zones.  It stopped, however, at 1967.  How is the time zone situation now?

I also think it is interesting about how the post office remails mail with the Valentine post mark for Feb.14th.

They moved the line west town about 15 miles now. Time zone was right down main street. I lived western all my younger life until I left in 1963 and went to school on central side.
 
Wish we were western now, being we are far west for central it's still light at 10pm summer.  It doesn't get dark enough at 43° longitude until 11pm to do fireworks on fourth of July so this means around town we get fireworks until 1am in the morning for couple weeks leading up to 4th. (fireworks are legal in town)

On positive side if you like staying up late and doing yard work at 9:30 in the evening you still have plenty of light.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ocala on February 11, 2018, 07:08:17 AM
After a cold January February is starting out warm. Forecast high today is 85! That's nuts for the beginning of February. For the next week it's 80's and 60's.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 11, 2018, 09:55:52 AM
I would like a little of that. Winter is my favorite time of year but ready for some warmth.
We are well below normal for first 11 days Feb.
So far below (0°F) (-18C) 19 days this winter. Coldest (-27F) (-33C).

Haven't had much snow but it rarely melts when it does just puddles with ground  frozen 36" deep makes ice.   

You can see my ground ISS on post by Cocorahs gauge sensors for ground temperatures this morning  13° at 4" to 31° at 36"
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: Glenn on February 13, 2018, 02:14:29 PM
A tough winter for us snow lovers in New England. We've had some decent snow storms, but they've all been followed by warm temps or rain...or worse...both!

Southern Vermont ski areas had a foot and a half of snow last week...followed by rain Sunday. Ugh!  #-o
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 13, 2018, 02:52:43 PM
CPC had the upper plains above normal for February if you can believe that. They've since changed to below.
Guess the weather rock was wrong again.
So far first 10 days -14 below normal but we do have a warmup this week before its winter again starting Sunday night.
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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 16, 2018, 07:53:38 AM
Through Feb. 15, so far this month average high 28.6°, low 2.3°, mean 16.1 which is -11.1° below normal.
With another arctic outbreak due Monday.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 18, 2018, 07:55:36 AM
Looks like we could be in for the "big one" as long time resident and friend predicted yesterday. GFS has parts of western Nebraska 18"+. Here in Valentine 11" or more potential. With wind and arctic cold air it will shut the area down for a few days.  Did I say my favorite time of year is WINTER... :lol:
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 01, 2018, 09:55:57 AM
Fun time of year almost over... :-(
My February summary. Temperature well below normal and coldest month station history (4 years) and ranks top 20 coldest February's dating back to 1890 for Valentine Ne.
 
Mean temperature (17.9) below average (-9.3° ), average high (30.6 ), low (4.3). Precipitation was above normal (+ 0.21 ) with (0.69) total for month and 10.5" snow. Monthly high (53.2), low (-17) with all 28 days freezing or below and 8 Days below zero. And this is all in (F) Fahrenheit of course.
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: zackdog on March 01, 2018, 10:33:18 AM
Thanks to a cold snap from the 20th thru the 28th, February ended up being only 2.2°F above my 22-yr average of 20.1°F.  This marked the fourth straight month with above average temperatures.

February High temperature was 43.6°F and the low was -12.5°F.

Mark
Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 01, 2018, 11:19:32 AM
I found 1936 was the all time cold mean for February 1.8F. Can't imagine what that must of been like. 

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Title: Re: Official Meteorological Winter Thread 2017-2018
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 28, 2018, 07:23:13 AM
Some winter statistics over last 4 seasons for my Nebraska station.

Dec, Jan, Feb. 2017-2018 was coldest with mean temperature 21.5° , 2016-2017 mean 24.1°, 2015-2016 mean 27.8°, 2014-2015 mean 25.3°.

Coldest single month was also this year February 2018 mean 17.9°. Next coldest month was Dec 2016 mean 19.2°.

Snowiest month was February 2017 20" which also recorded most snow single storm 14" .