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« Reply #100 on: October 18, 2006, 05:08:44 PM »
But they should be able to listen to your stream by visiting your web site, right?

I can't get QuickTime to play my stream either, and I downloaded the latest version to test it.  They should probably install a "real" media player.  Even my dog can play streaming audio...

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« Reply #101 on: October 18, 2006, 05:43:00 PM »
After finding where they put a link to my website I'm not too concerned whether they can stream it or not. 3/4 of the world can. That matters most. Anyway they can listen to the real thing anytime they want as long as they are at work.

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« Reply #102 on: October 18, 2006, 11:58:32 PM »
I rebooted my computer today, and Oddcast came up and started running with no problems, connected and started streaming...

Haven't changed anything... maybe just luck of the draw this time...
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« Reply #103 on: October 20, 2006, 08:26:01 AM »
You just finally held your mouth the right way. :wink:

My cats can stream audio too. Usually all of them at the same time.


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« Reply #104 on: October 20, 2006, 09:56:24 AM »
Anthony, are you a pilot? Not many people put aviation links on their sites unless they are...

Rebooted yesterday, and Oddcast was not streaming...
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« Reply #105 on: November 02, 2006, 06:32:48 PM »
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Hey guys. Any tips on improving network performance when running the stream? Had to take the stream down, as it was playing hell with the print server on the router. Took the wife over 30 minutes to print out one page. Needless to say, she was not a happy camper in the least. Using a D-Link 704-P router on a 100 Mbps network. Without the stream, everything runs smooth as silk. :(


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  Just wondering if you've played around with this any more and figured out what's happening with your network performance?

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« Reply #106 on: November 13, 2006, 06:44:53 PM »
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Well crap. Who did he email? I emailed Arthur Kraus. I even emailed the OAX webmaster.


Just a note to say that I heard from Arthur today.

He said they're planning to revamp the list of NOAA streams page sometime this week to include the 100+ NOAA sites which are providing audio mp3s (as opposed to us streamers).

Kevin, I hope you don't mind. I pointed out your page as one he might want to reference.

Oh, and Creighton is back streaming Omaha radio:
http://flare.creighton.edu/valley.wpl

(I link to them as an alternative source even though the audio is horrible)

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« Reply #107 on: November 13, 2006, 09:37:49 PM »
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Well crap. Who did he email? I emailed Arthur Kraus. I even emailed the OAX webmaster.

Kevin, I hope you don't mind. I pointed out your page as one he might want to reference.


Don't mind at all... it's appreciated, in fact.

I'm going to rework my station list page to feature us "true streamers" (relocating the Jacksonville feeds, which are merely mp3 sites).  Might be a day or so, though... just had a 14½-hour day at work.  :cry:

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« Reply #108 on: December 06, 2006, 08:32:30 PM »
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Hey, I've noticed on the audioserver that folks are getting DAYS of connection off their Oddcast software.

Meanwhile, I was getting like... hours... at best.... just leaving the stream playing on my computer for a while, I was finding it was loosing it's connection all the time.

Anyway, I downgraded back to v3.1.9 and that seems to have fixed a lot of my connection problems.

So, if you're finding that your stream is disconnecting quite a lot, you might consider downgrading to that version.


Downgraded myself and have been running for 4 days now without a problem.  Before I was getting 6-8 hours at most. :D

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« Reply #109 on: December 11, 2006, 08:17:48 PM »
Just got this email today from Wunderground and am posting it on here incase any of you didn't receive it who are currently participating in the project...

From: Aaron Cowdin
To: aaron@wunderground-dot-com
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: NOAA Weather Radio


Hello again NOAA radio uploaders. You're receiving this email because you are either uploading a NOAA radio stream to Weather Underground or you have expressed interest in doing so.

We've taken a very big step in moving forward to a release. Right now, the beta version of the main index page is online. You can find this page here: http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/index.html

This page shows all of the streams that are
1. Currently uploading
2. Signed up through our sign up page: http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/signup.html

If you do not see your stream on this page please
1. Go to http://audiostream.wunderground.com and check to see that your stream is in the list.
2. Make sure that you have signed up: http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/signup.html

If both of those answers are yes and you're still not seeing your stream on the index page, I'd like you to send me an email at aaron@wunderground-dot-com. I will say that we've had a lot of trouble with the flash player in some browsers so we've done quite a bit of browser testing with both IE and Firefox. If you have another browser please let me know if the player doesn't work, and please report any other bugs you happen to find.

Thanks again for contributing your resources to this feature!

Thanks,
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Re: Weather Underground NWS Streaming Project
« Reply #110 on: December 11, 2006, 09:09:17 PM »
Wonder why they have 26 ( http://audiostream.wunderground.com/ )stations that are streaming  and only 13 ( http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/index.html ) on their official page? :?:

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« Reply #111 on: December 11, 2006, 09:12:33 PM »
Not all of them have officially "signed up"... (http://www.wunderground.com:80/wxradio/signup.html)

But just a little while ago, that number was just 9.

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« Reply #112 on: December 12, 2006, 09:04:50 AM »
ncpilot,

Could you look at reducing or eliminating the hum from your stream?

Maybe you could try a different audio source to determine whether it is the radio, cabling, or audio card.

Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #113 on: December 12, 2006, 09:15:36 AM »
I'll check it, but last I listened (last night), I didn't hear the hum.

Although, I have found that it can vary quite a bit--not sure of the problem, but I suspect it's related to cabling... since I've got a different radio attached now than initially.

I did raise the gain last night--could be too high...

I do hear an "electronic" type sound in the background, but just now at work, unless I turn the volume way up, I don't hear a hum...

I'll diddle with it at lunch time...
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« Reply #114 on: December 12, 2006, 09:35:12 AM »
ncpilot,

Are you listening to the stream locally or through the stream?

Try playing it off the new WU page to see if there is a difference.

I am guessing that it might be a problem with ground isolation.

If you find a solution, let us know.

I am going to pick one up myself at Walmart for about $14.

Here is a good article on the subject:

http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/problem_solving.html

Here are a list of inexpensive ground isolators you might try:

This one has 1/8 inch stereo jacks.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-MaDMkc9KkWH/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=127SNI135

This is probably is least expensive from Walmart, you would need RCA to 3.5mm converters.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=896355

A few others:

http://www.millionbuy.com/hithnf20.html
http://www.scosche.com/scosche_caraudio.aspx?CategoryID=33&ItemID=ES034
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062214&cp

Many listings:

http://shopping.yahoo.com/search;?p=ground+isolator&did=&x=63&y=9
http://shopping.msn.com/results/shp/?text=ground+isolator,scId=3,SortBy=PRICE,Order=A

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« Reply #115 on: December 12, 2006, 12:56:09 PM »
I'm at home now, and listened through the WU page. If you listen to about 1/2 the other stations there, they seem to sound the same to me...

The sound was being routed through my home theater receiver (no speaker on this PC)--so it was much higher fidelity than on any PC...

I switched outlets for the AC power on the radio, and changed its position... still sounds the same to me...

I'll investigate further... may be I'll have to spend more $ on a better radio too... (was using a cheap Emerson, no I'm using a Radio Shack 12-152 radio in which I had to install an earphone jack--very old radio, no longer sold).

Could be the audio card in my PC sucks...

Maybe tonight I'll jack in a portable CD player to see how that sounds...
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« Reply #116 on: December 12, 2006, 09:07:34 PM »
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I'm at home now, and listened through the WU page. If you listen to about 1/2 the other stations there, they seem to sound the same to me...


Sounded good to me. Heck, what do they expect for free? HD quality?
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Re: Weather Underground NWS Streaming Project
« Reply #117 on: December 12, 2006, 09:47:44 PM »
Hate to say it but that is a pretty bad hum... mine did it when I had the power plugged in... so I'm off batteries...

Since they've now announced it, here's the link to the beta page on WU:

http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/index.html

I have my eye on their player as well...

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« Reply #118 on: December 12, 2006, 11:33:04 PM »
Don't know what to say, I've listened via the WU link on both my laptop and with audio card output from my other computer hooked up to my home theater surround sound receiver--and I don't hear any hum I'd call bad.

I don't hear any hum at all on the laptop, but not surprising due to the cheap speakers.

I'll continue to investigate though...
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« Reply #119 on: December 13, 2006, 03:49:23 AM »
wuhu_software:

Do you plan to add stations that the NWS is currently streaming themselves like:

http://204.2.106.62:8002/listen.pls

I have been considering helping out with an audio stream; however, I'm not sure its needed if my local NWS office is streaming the info already?!?
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« Reply #120 on: December 13, 2006, 04:46:28 AM »
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wuhu_software:

Do you plan to add stations that the NWS is currently streaming themselves like:

http://204.2.106.62:8002/listen.pls

I have been considering helping out with an audio stream; however, I'm not sure its needed if my local NWS office is streaming the info already?!?


According to their web site, the Louisville streams will be discontinued on December 16th...
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lmk/?n=noaaweatherradio

Interesting because they've been streaming just fine for over a month.  I recently sent an e-mail to Art Kraus but haven't heard back.  So your services may yet be needed...

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« Reply #121 on: December 14, 2006, 07:12:36 AM »
anchorageweather,

The streams that we are uploading are sent the Weather Underground audio servers. They are not part of the NWS local office streams that are sometimes available on the net (although it would be nice if they did).

I am not sure if WU is planning on providing links to local NWS offices that provide radio streams or not. I will have to look in to that. My guess is that if they do, it will probably be late sometime next year.

If you are currently running your PC 24x7 anyway, uploading your weather data to the WU, and you have the extra Internet bandwidth, we would like to have you participate.

Thanks.


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wuhu_software:

Do you plan to add stations that the NWS is currently streaming themselves like:

http://204.2.106.62:8002/listen.pls

I have been considering helping out with an audio stream; however, I'm not sure its needed if my local NWS office is streaming the info already?!?

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« Reply #122 on: December 14, 2006, 07:49:09 AM »
ncpilot,

This is really odd. If I reduce the bass on my system, the hum is much less. Maybe your home stereo audio system is somehow filtering out the hum.

Just as a test, here are a couple wav files to play. The first is your stream, the second is another NC stream. Let me know if you hear a difference.

http://home.comcast.net/~Brighton-Mi/NWSNC.wav

http://home.comcast.net/~Brighton-Mi/NWSNC2.wav

Thanks.


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Don't know what to say, I've listened via the WU link on both my laptop and with audio card output from my other computer hooked up to my home theater surround sound receiver--and I don't hear any hum I'd call bad.

I don't hear any hum at all on the laptop, but not surprising due to the cheap speakers.

I'll continue to investigate though...
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« Reply #123 on: December 14, 2006, 07:57:47 AM »
We are still trying to determine the sources of the hum and why some people hear a *loud* hum while others do not.

The people streaming radio are attempting to produce the highest quality streams possible. We are not making a dime from it.

Without getting in to a debate, there are problems and we are working on them.

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Sounded good to me. Heck, what do they expect for free? HD quality?
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Here is a what I typed up on the wiki page and this still holds true.

Audio Quality:Keep in mind we are attempting to produce the highest quality streams possible. Audio quality will be especially important during the program's infancy.

If your streams is producing a lot of noise, hum, or if it is over-amplified, more than likely users will not want to hear the stream and will close it immediately (even if the NWS is trying to deliver important alert information). Poor quality streams will reduce our listening audience so let's try to do our best to clean the audio streams and keep them as clear as possible.

Once you are streaming, please compare your audio quality to other streams to match sure you do not have a problem. You will be able to listen to your own stream via the web browser while you are uploading to the audio server.

Please contact us if you are having a problem with your audio quality so that we can help you correct the problem as soon as possible.

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Re: Weather Underground NWS Streaming Project
« Reply #124 on: December 14, 2006, 08:33:28 AM »
With some people hearing hums on some streams and some people not hearing the hum I am asking that a few of you listen to my stream to see if there is a noticeable hum on my stream. I don't hear one but I guess that doesn't mean there might not be one. Thanks.

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